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* [[TheWoobie Momo Hinamori]]: Some of her most rabid haters are [[WhiteHairedPrettyBoy Hitsugaya]] / [[MsFanservice Matsumoto]] shippers who have somehow convinced themselves that Hitsugaya isn't allowed to care for two girls at the same time (even if it's in different ways) and ''must'' choose between his sexy and self-assured lieutenant and [[BreakTheCutie his broken]] [[NotBloodSiblings adoptive sister]] and then run the girl he doesn't pick with his own sword. Or maybe that's because those fans also happen to [[TheScrappy hate Hinamori]], even if she's not paired with Hitsugaya at all. And finally, she's not safe from het-pairing lovers only: Momo is also often bashed for the sake of some yaoi pairs, like Aizen/Gin. It doesn't end there. Momo is likewise the main target from Hitsugaya/Matsumoto shippers for - you guessed it - being SO loyal to Aizen, that she was in traumatized denial of his betrayal for quite some time after he stabbed her. Because ''how dare she'' be affected by all the shit she went through and react ''like a normal person would''.

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* [[TheWoobie Momo Hinamori]]: Some of her most rabid haters are [[WhiteHairedPrettyBoy Hitsugaya]] / [[MsFanservice Matsumoto]] Hitsugaya/ Matsumoto shippers who have somehow convinced themselves that Hitsugaya isn't allowed to care for two girls at the same time (even if it's in different ways) and ''must'' choose between his sexy and self-assured lieutenant and [[BreakTheCutie his broken]] [[NotBloodSiblings adoptive sister]] and then run the girl he doesn't pick with his own sword. Or maybe that's because those fans also happen to [[TheScrappy hate Hinamori]], even if she's not paired with Hitsugaya at all. And finally, she's not safe from het-pairing lovers only: Momo is also often bashed for the sake of some yaoi pairs, like Aizen/Gin. It doesn't end there. Momo is likewise the main target from Hitsugaya/Matsumoto shippers for - you guessed it - being SO loyal to Aizen, that she was in traumatized denial of his betrayal for quite some time after he stabbed her. Because ''how dare she'' be affected by all the shit she went through and react ''like a normal person would''.
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* [[BodyguardCrush So]][[BrokenBird if]][[SpellMyNameWithAnS on]] is frequently twisted into a mixture of PsychoLesbian and [[DoesNotLikeMen rabid]] [[StrawFeminist misandrist]] by the most militant [[MadScientist Urahara]] / [[ActionGirl Yoruichi]] shippers. ''Even on this very wiki''. What is especially ironic is that ''[[LovableSexManiac Urahara]]'' himself would likely be ''[[YuriFanboy overjoyed]]'' at the prospect of [[LesYay Sui Feng/Yoruichi.]]

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* [[BodyguardCrush So]][[BrokenBird if]][[SpellMyNameWithAnS on]] is frequently twisted into a mixture of PsychoLesbian and [[DoesNotLikeMen rabid]] [[StrawFeminist misandrist]] by the most militant [[MadScientist Urahara]] / [[ActionGirl Yoruichi]] shippers. ''Even on this very wiki''. What is especially ironic is that ''[[LovableSexManiac Urahara]]'' himself would likely be ''[[YuriFanboy ''[[YuriFan overjoyed]]'' at the prospect of [[LesYay Sui Feng/Yoruichi.]]

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I see what you did there. And this could do without the passive-aggressive (and not even *accurate*) Ichi Hime hate.


* Poor Uryuu Ishida gets it from rabid fans from all sides. The Ichigo/Rukia section blames him for failing to seduce Orihime and make her forget about Ichigo (no matter how out of character that would be for him). Those in the other camp insist he is a) not good enough for their darling, pure and perfect goddess and/or b) a douchebag that doesn't let Orihime fight for herself, never mind that ''everybody'' (save for Rukia and Chad) wants her to keep out of fights.
* Many rabid [[MindGameShip Ulquiorra/Orihime]] fans have joined in the ShipToShipCombat against Ichigo/Orihime (and sometimes even Renji/Rukia). Surprisingly they never seem to actually defend Ulquiorra/Orihime; in fact, their level of sheer and utter '''hatred''' for Orihime and the Ichigo/Orihime pairing sometimes reaches ''scary'' levels, and one has to wonder just why they claim to ship a pairing that involves someone they hate so much...
** Meanwhile, the more level-headed Ulquihime fans, who like Orihime in herself, but don't like seeing her reducing herself to a DamselInDistress for Ichigo to save - a stance that Orihime herself shares, at least in large measure - wish that the FanDumb VocalMinority would [[StopBeingStereotypical stop giving the bulk of the fans a bad name]].

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* Poor Uryuu Ishida gets it from rabid fans from all sides. The Ichigo/Rukia section blames him for failing to seduce Orihime and make her forget about Ichigo (no matter how out of character that would be for him). Those in the other camp insist he is a) not good enough for their darling, pure and perfect goddess and/or b) a douchebag that doesn't let Orihime fight for herself, never mind that ''everybody'' (save for Rukia and Chad) wants used to want her to keep out of fights.
* Many rabid [[MindGameShip Ulquiorra/Orihime]] fans have joined in the ShipToShipCombat against Ichigo/Orihime (and sometimes even Renji/Rukia). Surprisingly they never seem to actually defend Ulquiorra/Orihime; in fact, their level of sheer and utter '''hatred''' for Orihime and the Ichigo/Orihime pairing sometimes reaches ''scary'' levels, and one has to wonder just why they claim to ship a pairing that involves someone they hate so much...
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much. Meanwhile, the more level-headed Ulquihime fans, fans who like Orihime in herself, but don't like seeing her reducing herself to a DamselInDistress for Ichigo to save - a stance that Orihime herself shares, at least in large measure - disagree with the ones above wish that the FanDumb VocalMinority would [[StopBeingStereotypical stop giving the bulk of the fans a bad name]].

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* Tatsuki does not have any real hate for her character, considering she is considered a secondary character by most of the fandom and no threat to either of the major ships. The problem comes when the fanatics of the major pairings use her as a tool in their shipping wars because of her friendship with Orihime. One rabid Ichi/Ruki side uses her as a mouthpiece to express their dislike of Ichi/Hime, while other Ichi/Hime fans claim that Tatsuki supports Ichi/Hime and make claims that Tatsuki would be upset with or automatically hate Ichigo if he rejects Inoue, essentially using her character the same way as detractors would: an anti-pairing tool.
* And the recent ''Everything but the Rain'' flashback arc has brought another victim: Kanae Katagiri, [[spoiler: Ryuuken Ishida's sort-of fighting partner, and who would eventually become Uryuu Ishida's mother]]. At one point she decided to [[spoiler: tell Ryuuken's mother that [[ArrangedMarriage his then-arranged girlfriend]], Masaki Kurosaki, had fought a Hollow without her input ''and'' was injured because of it, despite Ryuuken himself asking her to keep the secret]]; imediately, a small but very local part of the fandom started screaming for Kanae's blood, accusing her of [[spoiler: ratting Masaki out due to petty jealousy over her being Ryuuken's wife-to-be.]] Nevermind that [[spoiler: she did it ''to get Masaki help'' since she had been ''developing a Hollow hole'' due to said injury]] and genuinely thought [[IDidWhatIHadToDo she was fulfilling her duty.]]



* Tatsuki does not have any real hate for her character, considering she is considered a secondary character by most of the fandom and no threat to either of the major ships. The problem comes when the fanatics of the major pairings use her as a tool in their shipping wars because of her friendship with Orihime. One side uses her as a mouthpiece to express their dislike of Ichi/Hime, while other Ichi/Hime fans claim that Tatsuki supports Ichi/Hime and make claims that Tatsuki would be upset with or automatically hate Ichigo if he rejects Inoue, essentially using her character the same way as detractors would: an anti-pairing tool.
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* Speaking of Renji, some twist both him ''and'' [[AloofBigBrother Byakuya]] into [[DomesticAbuse wife-beaters, rapists, etc.]] to favor the Ichigo/Rukia coupling. It's much more passive-aggressive than the loud and misogyny-based Orihime hate, though: the culprits tend to say Renji doesn't deserve Rukia's prospect romantic feelings for having contributed to her arrest (nevermind that Byakuya was in charge and thus Renji was bound to be there whether he wanted or not, which caused him quite a bit of angst), whine because he stepped out of her life for years after she was adopted by the Kuchiki clan (because it's not like he thought that Rukia would have trouble [[UptownGirl for keeping bonds to someone who was under her new social status]]), etc. Threfore, for these people Renji is a massive, idiotic, woman-hating loser who will never measure up to Rukia's Perfect Man Ichigo ''and'' must have been considered as a possible love interest for her '''only''' by those who want to split up Ichigo and Rukia (Nevermind all the ShipTease between Rukia and Renji themselves, how Renji is revealed to be ''very'' devoted to Rukia once their common backstory is revealed, or even the scene where [[spoiler: Renji takes a HUGE risk via challenging Ichigo to "punish" him for putting Rukia at risk, and once he loses, he '''begs''' Ichigo to save her in his stead]]).

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* Speaking of Renji, some twist both him ''and'' [[AloofBigBrother Byakuya]] into [[DomesticAbuse wife-beaters, rapists, etc.]] to favor the Ichigo/Rukia coupling. It's much more passive-aggressive than the loud and misogyny-based Orihime hate, though: the culprits tend to say Renji doesn't deserve Rukia's prospect romantic feelings for having contributed to her arrest (nevermind (never mind that Byakuya was in charge and thus Renji was bound to be there whether he wanted or not, which caused him quite a bit of angst), whine because he stepped out of her life for years after she was adopted by the Kuchiki clan (because it's not like he thought that Rukia would have trouble [[UptownGirl for keeping bonds to someone who was under her new social status]]), etc. Threfore, Therefore, for these people Renji is a massive, idiotic, woman-hating loser who will never measure up to Rukia's Perfect Man Ichigo ''and'' must have been considered as a possible love interest for her '''only''' by those who want to split up Ichigo and Rukia (Nevermind (Never mind all the ShipTease between Rukia and Renji themselves, how Renji is revealed to be ''very'' devoted to Rukia once their common backstory is revealed, or even the scene where [[spoiler: Renji takes a HUGE risk via challenging Ichigo to "punish" him for putting Rukia at risk, and once he loses, he '''begs''' Ichigo to save her in his stead]]).

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* Many rabid [[MindGameShip Ulquiorra/Orihime]] fans have joined in the ShipToShipCombat against Ichigo/Orihime (and sometimes even Renji/Rukia). Surprisingly they never seem to actually defend Ulquiorra/Orihime; in fact, their level of sheer and utter '''hatred''' for Orihime and the Ichigo/Orihime pairing sometimes reaches ''scary'' levels, and one has to wonder just why they claim to ship a pairing that involves someone they hate so much...

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* Many rabid [[MindGameShip Ulquiorra/Orihime]] fans have joined in the ShipToShipCombat against Ichigo/Orihime (and sometimes even Renji/Rukia). Surprisingly they never seem to actually defend Ulquiorra/Orihime; in fact, their level of sheer and utter '''hatred''' for Orihime and the Ichigo/Orihime pairing sometimes reaches ''scary'' levels, and one has to wonder just why they claim to ship a pairing that involves someone they hate so much... much...
** Meanwhile, the more level-headed Ulquihime fans, who like Orihime in herself, but don't like seeing her reducing herself to a DamselInDistress for Ichigo to save - a stance that Orihime herself shares, at least in large measure - wish that the FanDumb VocalMinority would [[StopBeingStereotypical stop giving the bulk of the fans a bad name]].
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I do not believe this thread should be used to express pairing biases.


* Poor Uryuu Ishida gets it from rabid fans from all sides. The Ichigo/Rukia section blames him for failing to seduce Orihime and make her forget about Ichigo (no matter how out of character that would be for him), and more recently, for assisting her in an endeavour where ''she'' ended up saving Ichigo's life (instead of their PossessionSue version of Rukia) and Ichigo [[spoiler:went berserk to protect her]]. Those in the other camp insist he is a) not good enough for their darling, pure and perfect goddess and/or b) a douchebag that doesn't let Orihime fight for herself, never mind that ''everybody'' (save for Rukia and Chad) wants her to keep out of fights.

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* Poor Uryuu Ishida gets it from rabid fans from all sides. The Ichigo/Rukia section blames him for failing to seduce Orihime and make her forget about Ichigo (no matter how out of character that would be for him), and more recently, for assisting her in an endeavour where ''she'' ended up saving Ichigo's life (instead of their PossessionSue version of Rukia) and Ichigo [[spoiler:went berserk to protect her]]. him). Those in the other camp insist he is a) not good enough for their darling, pure and perfect goddess and/or b) a douchebag that doesn't let Orihime fight for herself, never mind that ''everybody'' (save for Rukia and Chad) wants her to keep out of fights.
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The prior edit to the post was unnecessary, because both sides were already addressed. There is no need for accusatory comments.


* Tatsuki does not have any real hate for her character, considering she is considered a secondary character by most of the fandom and no threat to either of the major ships. The problem comes when the fanatics of the major pairings use her as a tool in their shipping wars because of her friendship with Orihime, either to approve of their pet pairing or to shit on the other. And no, neither side is innocent of this.

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* Tatsuki does not have any real hate for her character, considering she is considered a secondary character by most of the fandom and no threat to either of the major ships. The problem comes when the fanatics of the major pairings use her as a tool in their shipping wars because of her friendship with Orihime, either Orihime. One side uses her as a mouthpiece to approve of express their pet pairing dislike of Ichi/Hime, while other Ichi/Hime fans claim that Tatsuki supports Ichi/Hime and make claims that Tatsuki would be upset with or to shit on automatically hate Ichigo if he rejects Inoue, essentially using her character the other. And no, neither side is innocent of this.same way as detractors would: an anti-pairing tool.

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I see what you guys did there. That\'s all.


* Ever since [[BarrierWarrior Orihime]] [[CloudCuckooLander Inoue]] started to [[CharacterDevelopment take a bigger role in the storyline]] ''and'' was revealed to ''actually'' be in love with Ichigo as well as [[ScrewDestiny MUCH]] [[RealityWarper more powerful]] than anybody would think, militant and enraged Ichigo/Rukia fangirls twist her into a [[StalkerWithACrush Rukia-hating]], [[{{Yandere}} Ichigo-obsessed stalker]] to make Rukia look like a better match for him. Never mind that Orihime is the ''[[HeroicSelfDeprecation depressed]]'' [[HeroicSelfDeprecation and passive kind of jealous]], that she ''adores'' Rukia (to the point of actively ''rejecting'' the idea of hating her, as well as praising Rukia's kindness and strength), and that ''Rukia herself'' adores Orihime and [[NotSoDifferent sees her own issues reflected in her]]. This has become so bad that ''everyone'' in the Ichigo/Rukia corner has been stereotyped as Orihime bashers, including sane ones who ''like'' or at least don't mind Orihime and only hate the idea of being lumped with the crazies.

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* Ever since [[BarrierWarrior Orihime]] [[CloudCuckooLander Inoue]] started to [[CharacterDevelopment take a bigger role in the storyline]] ''and'' was revealed to ''actually'' be in love with Ichigo as well as [[ScrewDestiny MUCH]] [[RealityWarper more powerful]] than anybody would think, militant and enraged Ichigo/Rukia fangirls twist her into a [[StalkerWithACrush Rukia-hating]], [[{{Yandere}} Ichigo-obsessed stalker]] to make Rukia look like a better match for him. Never mind that Orihime is the ''[[HeroicSelfDeprecation depressed]]'' [[HeroicSelfDeprecation and passive kind of jealous]], that she ''adores'' Rukia (to the point of actively ''rejecting'' the idea of hating her, as well as praising Rukia's kindness and strength), that she actually got over it as she got more spotlight and development, and that ''Rukia herself'' adores Orihime and [[NotSoDifferent sees her own issues reflected in her]]. This has become so bad that ''everyone'' in the Ichigo/Rukia corner has been stereotyped as Orihime bashers, including sane ones who ''like'' or at least don't mind Orihime and only hate the idea of being lumped with the crazies.



** Both camps often forgets that Orihime had nothing against an idea of sharing Ichigo with Rukia.
* Speaking of Renji, some twist both him ''and'' [[AloofBigBrother Byakuya]] into [[DomesticAbuse wife-beaters, rapists, etc.]] to favor the Ichigo/Rukia coupling. It's much more passive-aggressive than the loud and misogyny-based Orihime hate, though: the culprits tend to say Renji doesn't deserve Rukia's prospect romantic feelings for having contributed to her arrest (nevermind that Byakuya was in charge and thus Renji was bound to be there whether he wanted or not, which caused him quite a bit of angst), whine because he stepped out of her life for years after she was adopted by the Kuchiki clan (because it's not like he thought that Rukia would have trouble [[UptownGirl for keeping bonds to someone who was under her new social status]]), etc. Threfore, for these people Renji is a massive, idiotic, woman-hating loser who will never measure up to Rukia's Perfect Man Ichigo ''and'' must have been considered as a possible love interest for her '''only''' by those who want to split up Ichigo and Rukia (Nevermind all the ShipTease between Rukia and Renji themselves, or even the scene where [[spoiler: Renji takes a HUGE risk via challenging Ichigo to "punish" him for putting Rukia at risk, and once he loses, he '''begs''' Ichigo to save her in his stead]]).
* For many reasons, some Renji/Ichigo fans can get batshit crazy and bash both Orihime and Rukia. Don't ask.
* Poor Uryuu Ishida gets it from rabid fans from all sides. The Ichigo/Rukia section blames him for failing to seduce Orihime and make her forget about Ichigo (no matter how out of character that would be), and more recently, for assisting her in an endeavour where ''she'' ended up saving Ichigo's life (instead of their PossessionSue version of Rukia) and Ichigo [[spoiler:went berserk to protect her]]. Those in the other camp insist he is a) not good enough for their darling, pure and perfect goddess and/or b) a douchebag that doesn't let Orihime fight for herself, never mind that ''everybody'' (save for Rukia and Chad) wants her to keep out of fights.
* Many rabid [[MindGameShip Ulquiorra/Orihime]] fans have joined in the ShipToShipCombat against Ichigo/Orihime (and sometimes even Renji/Rukia). Surprisingly they never seem to actually defend Ulquiorra/Orihime; in fact, their level of sheer and utter ''hatred'' for Orihime and the Ichigo/Orihime pairing sometimes reaches ''scary'' levels, and one has to wonder just why they claim to ship a pairing that involves someone they hate so much. For many, the answer is generally a belief that Inoue feels like a better character around Ulquiorra than she is around Ichigo.

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** Both camps often forgets that Orihime had nothing against an idea of sharing Ichigo with Rukia.
* Speaking of Renji, some twist both him ''and'' [[AloofBigBrother Byakuya]] into [[DomesticAbuse wife-beaters, rapists, etc.]] to favor the Ichigo/Rukia coupling. It's much more passive-aggressive than the loud and misogyny-based Orihime hate, though: the culprits tend to say Renji doesn't deserve Rukia's prospect romantic feelings for having contributed to her arrest (nevermind that Byakuya was in charge and thus Renji was bound to be there whether he wanted or not, which caused him quite a bit of angst), whine because he stepped out of her life for years after she was adopted by the Kuchiki clan (because it's not like he thought that Rukia would have trouble [[UptownGirl for keeping bonds to someone who was under her new social status]]), etc. Threfore, for these people Renji is a massive, idiotic, woman-hating loser who will never measure up to Rukia's Perfect Man Ichigo ''and'' must have been considered as a possible love interest for her '''only''' by those who want to split up Ichigo and Rukia (Nevermind all the ShipTease between Rukia and Renji themselves, how Renji is revealed to be ''very'' devoted to Rukia once their common backstory is revealed, or even the scene where [[spoiler: Renji takes a HUGE risk via challenging Ichigo to "punish" him for putting Rukia at risk, and once he loses, he '''begs''' Ichigo to save her in his stead]]).
* For many reasons, some Renji/Ichigo fans can get batshit crazy and bash both Orihime and Rukia. Don't ask.
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* Poor Uryuu Ishida gets it from rabid fans from all sides. The Ichigo/Rukia section blames him for failing to seduce Orihime and make her forget about Ichigo (no matter how out of character that would be), be for him), and more recently, for assisting her in an endeavour where ''she'' ended up saving Ichigo's life (instead of their PossessionSue version of Rukia) and Ichigo [[spoiler:went berserk to protect her]]. Those in the other camp insist he is a) not good enough for their darling, pure and perfect goddess and/or b) a douchebag that doesn't let Orihime fight for herself, never mind that ''everybody'' (save for Rukia and Chad) wants her to keep out of fights.
* Many rabid [[MindGameShip Ulquiorra/Orihime]] fans have joined in the ShipToShipCombat against Ichigo/Orihime (and sometimes even Renji/Rukia). Surprisingly they never seem to actually defend Ulquiorra/Orihime; in fact, their level of sheer and utter ''hatred'' '''hatred''' for Orihime and the Ichigo/Orihime pairing sometimes reaches ''scary'' levels, and one has to wonder just why they claim to ship a pairing that involves someone they hate so much. For many, the answer is generally a belief that Inoue feels like a better character around Ulquiorra than she is around Ichigo.much...



* It doesn't help that the entire ''Manga/{{Bleach}}'' series is a) long running, b) Shonen, and c) likes to draw out its action scenes. Oh, and the mangaka likes to keep things intentionally vague about relationships for some reason (even ''{{Naruto}}'' has more relationship development). Hence people with preferred characters start to [[ShippingGoggles pick and choose]] to enhance relationship development. WordOfGod has said that he feels that the characters have more potential than just falling in love. Then again, this comes from the man that/ also said [[CreatorBacklash the more hate Orihime gets, the more screen-time he gives her.]]
* Tatsuki does not have any real hate for her character, considering she is considered a secondary character by most of the fandom and no threat to either of the major ships. The problem comes when the fanatics of the major pairings use her as a tool in their shipping wars because of her friendship with Orihime. One side uses her as a mouthpiece to express their dislike of Ichi/Hime, while other Ichi/Hime fans claim that Tatsuki supports Ichi/Hime, and make claims that Tatsuki would be upset with or automatically hate Ichigo if he rejects Inoue, essentially using her character the same way as detractors would: an anti-pairing tool.

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* It doesn't help that the entire ''Manga/{{Bleach}}'' series is a) long running, b) Shonen, and c) likes to draw out its action scenes. Oh, and the mangaka likes to keep things intentionally vague about relationships for some reason (even ''{{Naruto}}'' has more relationship development). Hence people with preferred characters start to [[ShippingGoggles pick and choose]] to enhance relationship development. WordOfGod has said that he feels that the characters have more potential than just falling in love. Then again, this comes from the man that/ author that has also openly said [[CreatorBacklash the more hate Orihime gets, the more screen-time he gives her.]]
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* Tatsuki does not have any real hate for her character, considering she is considered a secondary character by most of the fandom and no threat to either of the major ships. The problem comes when the fanatics of the major pairings use her as a tool in their shipping wars because of her friendship with Orihime. One side uses her as a mouthpiece Orihime, either to express approve of their dislike of Ichi/Hime, while other Ichi/Hime fans claim that Tatsuki supports Ichi/Hime, and make claims that Tatsuki would be upset with pet pairing or automatically hate Ichigo if he rejects Inoue, essentially using her character to shit on the same way as detractors would: an anti-pairing tool.other. And no, neither side is innocent of this.
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** Both camps often forgets that Orihime had nothing against an idea of sharing Ichigo with Rukia.
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Providing examples is okay, but I feel it is out of line when said \"examples\" actively villify other segments of the fandom.


** Some fans go as far as to twist the [[CrowningMomentOfHeartwarming very sweet]] ([[LesYay and femslashy]], for some) scene between them where [[spoiler: Rukia vehemently tells Orihime that [[YouAreNotAlone she's a great person and her friends love her]], that she was not a burden to them and that [[IOweYouMyLife if Orihime hadn't been there, Rukia would have died]], ]], pulling her from the HeroicBSOD state she's been for a while]] into a "CatFight" where Rukia curses and bitches at Orihime for laying her eyes on Ichigo.
** Reaches its worst extreme when rabid IchiRukis make truly mindboggling assumptions about Orihime [[spoiler: FightingFromTheInside against Tsukishima's brainwashing]]. Such a fact somehow makes her a "shallow whore" and a "selfish bitch", whose care for Ichigo is "utterly pathetic" and "will never compare to Rukia's Eternal and Mature Love."
** And when you've got society's general double standards that pit women against each other, and define women by the success of their romantic relationships, you have a perfect storm. Most IchiRuki fans appreciate that there is [[BechdelTest more than one prominent female character]] in Bleach. Others, however, sincerely believe that Orihime was written mainly to be a StrawLoser to Rukia -- to the point where the poor girl is [[RonTheDeathEater nitpicked]] and compared against Neliel, Jackie, Tatsuki, Nozomi, and others who have nothing to do with the Rukia/Ichigo/Orihime love triangle.
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There is a thin line between providing examples for a trope, and just plain using it to hate on other ships.


* Many rabid [[MindGameShip Ulquiorra/Orihime]] fans have joined in the ShipToShipCombat against Ichigo/Orihime (and sometimes even Renji/Rukia). Surprisingly they never seem to actually defend Ulquiorra/Orihime; in fact, their level of sheer and utter ''hatred'' for Orihime and the Ichigo/Orihime pairing sometimes reaches ''scary'' levels, and one has to wonder just why they claim to ship a pairing that involves someone they hate so much. (The answer is, of course, that most of them rabidly ship Ichigo/Rukia and treat Ulquiorra/Orihime as only ShipMates, much to the annoyance of real Ulquiorra/Orihime fans who actually ship the pair and don't give a damn about Ichigo/Rukia.)

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* Many rabid [[MindGameShip Ulquiorra/Orihime]] fans have joined in the ShipToShipCombat against Ichigo/Orihime (and sometimes even Renji/Rukia). Surprisingly they never seem to actually defend Ulquiorra/Orihime; in fact, their level of sheer and utter ''hatred'' for Orihime and the Ichigo/Orihime pairing sometimes reaches ''scary'' levels, and one has to wonder just why they claim to ship a pairing that involves someone they hate so much. (The For many, the answer is, of course, is generally a belief that most of them rabidly ship Ichigo/Rukia and treat Ulquiorra/Orihime as only ShipMates, much to the annoyance of real Ulquiorra/Orihime fans who actually ship the pair and don't give Inoue feels like a damn about Ichigo/Rukia.)better character around Ulquiorra than she is around Ichigo.
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It cannot be safely said that the \"destiny\" angle is disproven when Kubo has released two poems that link the word \"destiny\" to Ichigo and Rukia\'s characters.


* Here comes a weird variant. The Ichi/Ruki shippers used something along the lines of "their meeting was destiny" as their tagline, even claiming that [[TheHero Ichigo]] was [[BigBrotherMentor Kaien's]] reincarnation. The latter point was proven false ever since [[EldritchAbomination Aaroniero]] revealed that [[AndIMustScream Kaien was trapped inside Aaroniero himself]], after the latter absorbed Metastacia, a Hollow that fused with Kaien. Reactions varied within the fandom, but the shippers were most affected by that revelation; Ichiruki shippers were outraged, while Ichihime shippers saw it as a TakeThat. Since Aaroniero ''actually was killed'' by Rukia shortly after that reveal, the shippers aren't as likely to shout at Aaroniero these days. Furthermore, it's been revealed that [[spoiler:Aizen had [[GambitRoulette manipulated Ichigo's development]], [[ItMakesSenseInContext including the very first meeting between himself and Rukia]]. Naturally, this upset many Ichiruki shippers, who wildly denied such a declaration, but Aizen himself was finished off by Ichigo at the end of the Deicide arc, so they won't disparage him as much either. In both cases, instead of the typical ShipToShipCombat, shippers were just peeved that another character 'disproved' the "certainty" of Ichigo getting together with Rukia.]]
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* It doesn't help that the entire ''Manga/{{Bleach}}'' series is a) long running, b) Shonen, and c) likes to draw out its action scenes. Oh, and the mangaka likes to keep things intentionally vague about relationships for some reason (even ''{{Naruto}}'' has more relationship development). Hence people with preferred characters start to [[ShippingGoggles pick and choose]] to enhance relationship development. WordOfGod has said that he feels that the characters have more potential than just falling in love. Then again, this comes from the man that/ also said [[{{Troll}} the more hate Orihime gets, the more screen-time he gives her.]]

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* It doesn't help that the entire ''Manga/{{Bleach}}'' series is a) long running, b) Shonen, and c) likes to draw out its action scenes. Oh, and the mangaka likes to keep things intentionally vague about relationships for some reason (even ''{{Naruto}}'' has more relationship development). Hence people with preferred characters start to [[ShippingGoggles pick and choose]] to enhance relationship development. WordOfGod has said that he feels that the characters have more potential than just falling in love. Then again, this comes from the man that/ also said [[{{Troll}} [[CreatorBacklash the more hate Orihime gets, the more screen-time he gives her.]]

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* [[TheWoobie Momo Hinamori]]:
** Some of her most rabid haters are [[WhiteHairedPrettyBoy Hitsugaya]] / [[MsFanservice Matsumoto]] shippers who have somehow convinced themselves that Hitsugaya isn't allowed to [[TenchiSolution care for two girls at the same time]] (even if it's in different ways) and ''must'' choose between his sexy and self-assured lieutenant and [[BreakTheCutie his broken]] [[NotBloodSiblings adoptive sister]] and then run the girl he doesn't pick with his own sword. Or maybe that's because those fans also happen to [[TheScrappy hate Hinamori]], even if she's not paired with Hitsugaya at all. And finally, she's not safe from het-pairing lovers only: Momo is also often bashed for the sake of some yaoi pairs, like Aizen/Gin. It doesn't end there. Momo is likewise the main target from Hitsugaya/Matsumoto shippers for - you guessed it - being SO loyal to Aizen, that she was in traumatized denial of his betrayal for quite some time after he stabbed her. Because ''how dare she'' be affected by all the shit she went through and react ''like a normal person would''.

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* [[TheWoobie Momo Hinamori]]:
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Hinamori]]: Some of her most rabid haters are [[WhiteHairedPrettyBoy Hitsugaya]] / [[MsFanservice Matsumoto]] shippers who have somehow convinced themselves that Hitsugaya isn't allowed to [[TenchiSolution care for two girls at the same time]] time (even if it's in different ways) and ''must'' choose between his sexy and self-assured lieutenant and [[BreakTheCutie his broken]] [[NotBloodSiblings adoptive sister]] and then run the girl he doesn't pick with his own sword. Or maybe that's because those fans also happen to [[TheScrappy hate Hinamori]], even if she's not paired with Hitsugaya at all. And finally, she's not safe from het-pairing lovers only: Momo is also often bashed for the sake of some yaoi pairs, like Aizen/Gin. It doesn't end there. Momo is likewise the main target from Hitsugaya/Matsumoto shippers for - you guessed it - being SO loyal to Aizen, that she was in traumatized denial of his betrayal for quite some time after he stabbed her. Because ''how dare she'' be affected by all the shit she went through and react ''like a normal person would''.
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* Tatsuki does not have any real hate for her character, considering she is considered a secondary character by most of the fandom and no threat to either of the major ships. The problem comes when the fanatics of the major pairings use her as a tool in their shipping wars because of her friendship with Orihime. One side uses her as a mouthpiece to express their dislike of IchiHime, while other IchiHime fans claim that Tatsuki supports IchiHime, and make claims that Tatsuki would be upset with or automatically hate Ichigo if he rejects Inoue, essentially using her character the same way as detractors would: an anti-pairing tool.

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* Tatsuki does not have any real hate for her character, considering she is considered a secondary character by most of the fandom and no threat to either of the major ships. The problem comes when the fanatics of the major pairings use her as a tool in their shipping wars because of her friendship with Orihime. One side uses her as a mouthpiece to express their dislike of IchiHime, Ichi/Hime, while other IchiHime Ichi/Hime fans claim that Tatsuki supports IchiHime, Ichi/Hime, and make claims that Tatsuki would be upset with or automatically hate Ichigo if he rejects Inoue, essentially using her character the same way as detractors would: an anti-pairing tool.
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* Tatsuki does not have any real hate for her character, considering she is considered a secondary character by most of the fandom and no threat to either of the major ships. The problem comes when the fanatics of the major pairings use her as a tool in their shipping wars because of her friendship with Orihime. One side uses her as a mouthpiece to express their dislike of IchiHime, while other IchiHime fans claim that Tatsuki supports IchiHime, and make claims that Tatsuki would be upset with or hate Ichigo if he rejects Inoue, which is OOC.

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* Tatsuki does not have any real hate for her character, considering she is considered a secondary character by most of the fandom and no threat to either of the major ships. The problem comes when the fanatics of the major pairings use her as a tool in their shipping wars because of her friendship with Orihime. One side uses her as a mouthpiece to express their dislike of IchiHime, while other IchiHime fans claim that Tatsuki supports IchiHime, and make claims that Tatsuki would be upset with or automatically hate Ichigo if he rejects Inoue, which is OOC.essentially using her character the same way as detractors would: an anti-pairing tool.
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** The main problem with '''all''' IchiHime fans is their tendency to devalue Rukia's bond with Ichigo. They do not "hate" Rukia - they think her, every character in Bleach and their mother ship IchiHime when romance is not the name of the genre - but they take every chance to devalue any interactions between Ichigo and Rukia. They go as far as to devalue the entire Soul Society arc, saying the only reason Ichigo went to save Rukia "was because of a debt", ignoring highly emotional scenes such as Ichigo tell Zangetsu he swore on his soul that he would save Rukia, and the real reason why Ichigo wanted to save Rukia.

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** The main problem with '''all''' IchiHime fans is their tendency to devalue Rukia's bond with Ichigo. They do not "hate" Rukia - they think her, every character in Bleach and their mother ship IchiHime when romance is not the name of the genre - but they take every chance to devalue any interactions between Ichigo and Rukia. They go as far as to devalue the entire Soul Society arc, saying the only reason Ichigo went to save Rukia "was because of a debt", ignoring highly emotional scenes such as Ichigo tell Zangetsu he swore on his soul that he would save Rukia, and the real reason why Ichigo wanted to save Rukia.



* Tatsuki is mercifully spared from this, except by fans who do not have all their marbles. Tatsuki has done nothing to earn the ire of either Ichi/Hime or Ichi/Ruki fans, and it also helps she is considered a secondary character by the fandom at large. Sometimes, however, she's used as the incarnation of this trope: while '''she''' doesn't get directly bashed in fanwork, she's sometimes chosen as [[WriterOnBoard the mouthpiece of choice for IchiHime bashers]], who then make her tell Orihime that she should fall out of love with Ichigo and go for others instead -- basically ''putting their own hate for the pairing in Tatsuki's mouth''. Tatsuki doesn't seem to have a reason to dislike a possible [=IchiHime=] match-up in canon, in fact she's friends with both of them, so why would she oh-so hate it?

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* Tatsuki is mercifully spared from this, except by fans who do does not have all their marbles. Tatsuki has done nothing to earn the ire of either Ichi/Hime or Ichi/Ruki fans, and it also helps any real hate for her character, considering she is considered a secondary character by most of the fandom at large. Sometimes, however, she's used as and no threat to either of the incarnation of this trope: while '''she''' doesn't get directly bashed in fanwork, she's sometimes chosen as [[WriterOnBoard major ships. The problem comes when the fanatics of the major pairings use her as a tool in their shipping wars because of her friendship with Orihime. One side uses her as a mouthpiece to express their dislike of choice for IchiHime, while other IchiHime bashers]], who then make her tell Orihime fans claim that she should fall out of love with Ichigo and go for others instead -- basically ''putting their own hate for the pairing in Tatsuki's mouth''. Tatsuki doesn't seem to have a reason to dislike a possible [=IchiHime=] match-up in canon, in fact she's friends with both of them, so why supports IchiHime, and make claims that Tatsuki would she oh-so be upset with or hate it?Ichigo if he rejects Inoue, which is OOC.
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Whenever a {{Shonen}} has an EstrogenBrigade amidst their fandom, it's inevitable for a shipping war to ignite ''the mere second'' that a character interacts with another. What makes ''{{Bleach}}'' especially notable, however, is how the ''het fans'' are the ones causing the most amount of FanDumb around these parts.

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Whenever a {{Shonen}} has an EstrogenBrigade amidst their fandom, it's inevitable for a shipping war to ignite ''the mere second'' that a character interacts with another. What makes ''{{Bleach}}'' ''Manga/{{Bleach}}'' especially notable, however, is how the ''het fans'' are the ones causing the most amount of FanDumb around these parts.
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* Here comes a weird variant. The Ichi/Ruki shippers used something along the lines of "their meeting was destiny" as their tagline, even claiming that [[TheHero Ichigo]] was [[BigBrotherMentor Kaien's]] reincarnation. The latter point was proven false ever since [[EldritchAbomination Aaroniero]] revealed that [[AndIMustScream Kaien was trapped inside Aaroniero himself]], after the latter absorbed Metastacia, a Hollow that fused with Kaien. Reactions varied within the fandom, but the shippers were most affected by that revelation; Ichiruki shippers were outraged, while Ichihime shippers saw it as a TakeThat. Since Aaroniero ''actually was killed'' by Rukia shortly after that reveal, the shippers aren't as likely to shout at Aaroniero these days. Furthermore, it's been revealed that [[spoiler:[[CompleteMonster Aizen]] had [[GambitRoulette manipulated Ichigo's development]], [[ItMakesSenseInContext including the very first meeting between himself and Rukia]]. Naturally, this upset many Ichiruki shippers, who wildly denied such a declaration, but Aizen himself was finished off by Ichigo at the end of the Deicide arc, so they won't disparage him as much either. In both cases, instead of the typical ShipToShipCombat, shippers were just peeved that another character 'disproved' the "certainty" of Ichigo getting together with Rukia.]]

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* Here comes a weird variant. The Ichi/Ruki shippers used something along the lines of "their meeting was destiny" as their tagline, even claiming that [[TheHero Ichigo]] was [[BigBrotherMentor Kaien's]] reincarnation. The latter point was proven false ever since [[EldritchAbomination Aaroniero]] revealed that [[AndIMustScream Kaien was trapped inside Aaroniero himself]], after the latter absorbed Metastacia, a Hollow that fused with Kaien. Reactions varied within the fandom, but the shippers were most affected by that revelation; Ichiruki shippers were outraged, while Ichihime shippers saw it as a TakeThat. Since Aaroniero ''actually was killed'' by Rukia shortly after that reveal, the shippers aren't as likely to shout at Aaroniero these days. Furthermore, it's been revealed that [[spoiler:[[CompleteMonster Aizen]] [[spoiler:Aizen had [[GambitRoulette manipulated Ichigo's development]], [[ItMakesSenseInContext including the very first meeting between himself and Rukia]]. Naturally, this upset many Ichiruki shippers, who wildly denied such a declaration, but Aizen himself was finished off by Ichigo at the end of the Deicide arc, so they won't disparage him as much either. In both cases, instead of the typical ShipToShipCombat, shippers were just peeved that another character 'disproved' the "certainty" of Ichigo getting together with Rukia.]]
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... Meep, pressed \"save\" too early. But my point stands, and specially when it comes to counteracting your obsession with deleting almost anything here that may favor Orihime or the Ichigo/Orihime pairing.


* Tatsuki is mercifully spared from this, except by fans who do not have all their marbles. Tatsuki has done nothing to earn the ire of either Ichi/Hime or Ichi/Ruki fans, and it also helps she is considered a secondary character by the fandom at large. Sometimes, however, she's used as the incarnation of this trope: while '''she''' doesn't get directly bashed in fanwork, she's sometimes chosen as [[WriterOnBoard the mouthpiece of choice for IchiHime bashers]], who then make her tell Orihime that she should fall out of love with Ichigo and go for others instead -- basically ''putting their own hate for the pairing in Tatsuki's mouth''. Tatsuki doesn't seem to have a reason to dislike a possible [=IchiHime=] match-up in canon, but reading

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* Tatsuki is mercifully spared from this, except by fans who do not have all their marbles. Tatsuki has done nothing to earn the ire of either Ichi/Hime or Ichi/Ruki fans, and it also helps she is considered a secondary character by the fandom at large. Sometimes, however, she's used as the incarnation of this trope: while '''she''' doesn't get directly bashed in fanwork, she's sometimes chosen as [[WriterOnBoard the mouthpiece of choice for IchiHime bashers]], who then make her tell Orihime that she should fall out of love with Ichigo and go for others instead -- basically ''putting their own hate for the pairing in Tatsuki's mouth''. Tatsuki doesn't seem to have a reason to dislike a possible [=IchiHime=] match-up in canon, but readingin fact she's friends with both of them, so why would she oh-so hate it?
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Let me remind you that using a character as a tool to badmouth a pairing IS a form of bashing too. Specially considering that Tatsuki currently has NO reason to hate the possibility of Ichigo and Orihime being together, but more than one fanfic portrays her as being an anti-Ichihime shipper.


* Tatsuki is mercifully spared from this, except by fans who do not have all their marbles. Tatsuki has done nothing to earn the ire of either Ichi/Hime or Ichi/Ruki fans, and it also helps she is considered a secondary character by the fandom at large.

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* Tatsuki is mercifully spared from this, except by fans who do not have all their marbles. Tatsuki has done nothing to earn the ire of either Ichi/Hime or Ichi/Ruki fans, and it also helps she is considered a secondary character by the fandom at large. Sometimes, however, she's used as the incarnation of this trope: while '''she''' doesn't get directly bashed in fanwork, she's sometimes chosen as [[WriterOnBoard the mouthpiece of choice for IchiHime bashers]], who then make her tell Orihime that she should fall out of love with Ichigo and go for others instead -- basically ''putting their own hate for the pairing in Tatsuki's mouth''. Tatsuki doesn't seem to have a reason to dislike a possible [=IchiHime=] match-up in canon, but reading
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Read the trope description: Die For Our Ship refers to when a character is hated BECAUSE a group of people perceive that said character is a threat to their ship. This is not a place about where people are used as tools to express dislike for a certain ship.


* Tatsuki is mercifully spared from this, except by fans who do not have all their marbles. Tatsuki has done nothing to earn the ire of either Ichi/Hime or Ichi/Ruki fans, and it also helps she is considered a secondary character by the fandom at large. Sometimes, however, she's used as the incarnation of this trope: while '''she''' doesn't get directly bashed in fanwork, she's sometimes chosen as [[WriterOnBoard the mouthpiece of choice for IchiHime bashers]], who then make her tell Orihime that she should fall out of love with Ichigo and go for others instead -- basically ''putting their own hate for the pairing in Tatsuki's mouth''.

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* Tatsuki is mercifully spared from this, except by fans who do not have all their marbles. Tatsuki has done nothing to earn the ire of either Ichi/Hime or Ichi/Ruki fans, and it also helps she is considered a secondary character by the fandom at large. Sometimes, however, she's used as the incarnation of this trope: while '''she''' doesn't get directly bashed in fanwork, she's sometimes chosen as [[WriterOnBoard the mouthpiece of choice for IchiHime bashers]], who then make her tell Orihime that she should fall out of love with Ichigo and go for others instead -- basically ''putting their own hate for the pairing in Tatsuki's mouth''.
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* Here comes a weird variant. The Ichi/Ruki shippers used something along the lines of "their meeting was destiny" as their tagline, even claiming that [[TheHero Ichigo]] was [[BigBrotherMentor Kaien's]] reincarnation. The latter point was proven false ever since [[EldritchAbomination Aaroniero]] revealed that [[AndIMustScream Kaien was trapped inside Aaroniero himself]], after the latter absorbed Metastacia, a Hollow that fused with Kaien. Reactions varied within the fandom, but the shippers were most affected by that revelation; Ichiruki shippers were outraged, while Ichihime shippers saw it as a TakeThat. Since Aaroniero ''actually was killed'' by Rukia shortly after that reveal, the shippers aren't as likely to shout at Aaroniero these days.
** Furthermore, it's been revealed that [[CompleteMonster Aizen]] had [[GambitRoulette manipulated Ichigo's development]], [[ItMakesSenseInContext including the very first meeting between himself and Rukia]]. Naturally, this upset many Ichiruki shippers, who wildly denied such a declaration, but Aizen himself was finished off by Ichigo at the end of the Deicide arc, so they won't disparage him as much either. In both cases, instead of the typical ShipToShipCombat, shippers were just peeved that another character 'disproved' the "certainty" of Ichigo getting together with Rukia.

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* Here comes a weird variant. The Ichi/Ruki shippers used something along the lines of "their meeting was destiny" as their tagline, even claiming that [[TheHero Ichigo]] was [[BigBrotherMentor Kaien's]] reincarnation. The latter point was proven false ever since [[EldritchAbomination Aaroniero]] revealed that [[AndIMustScream Kaien was trapped inside Aaroniero himself]], after the latter absorbed Metastacia, a Hollow that fused with Kaien. Reactions varied within the fandom, but the shippers were most affected by that revelation; Ichiruki shippers were outraged, while Ichihime shippers saw it as a TakeThat. Since Aaroniero ''actually was killed'' by Rukia shortly after that reveal, the shippers aren't as likely to shout at Aaroniero these days.
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days. Furthermore, it's been revealed that [[CompleteMonster [[spoiler:[[CompleteMonster Aizen]] had [[GambitRoulette manipulated Ichigo's development]], [[ItMakesSenseInContext including the very first meeting between himself and Rukia]]. Naturally, this upset many Ichiruki shippers, who wildly denied such a declaration, but Aizen himself was finished off by Ichigo at the end of the Deicide arc, so they won't disparage him as much either. In both cases, instead of the typical ShipToShipCombat, shippers were just peeved that another character 'disproved' the "certainty" of Ichigo getting together with Rukia.]]



** Reaches its worst extreme [[http://www.journalfen.net/community/fandom_wank/1280151.html when rabid IchiRukis make truly mindboggling assumptions]] about Orihime [[spoiler: FightingFromTheInside against Tsukishima's brainwashing]]. Such a fact somehow makes her a "shallow whore" and a "selfish bitch", whose care for Ichigo is "utterly pathetic" and "will never compare to Rukia's Eternal and Mature Love."
** For the ''somewhat'' saner ones, at least, the hate for Orihime in particular is in part due to RealWomenNeverWearDresses, [[DoubleStandard even as BOTH fans and haters alike invoke the latter trope in their support or opposition towards one girl over the other]].

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** Reaches its worst extreme [[http://www.journalfen.net/community/fandom_wank/1280151.html when rabid IchiRukis make truly mindboggling assumptions]] assumptions about Orihime [[spoiler: FightingFromTheInside against Tsukishima's brainwashing]]. Such a fact somehow makes her a "shallow whore" and a "selfish bitch", whose care for Ichigo is "utterly pathetic" and "will never compare to Rukia's Eternal and Mature Love."
** For the ''somewhat'' saner ones, at least, the hate for Orihime in particular is in part due to RealWomenNeverWearDresses, [[DoubleStandard even as BOTH fans and haters alike invoke the latter trope in their support or opposition towards one girl over the other]].
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* Speaking of Renji, some twist both him ''and'' [[AloofBigBrother Byakuya]] into [[DomesticAbuse wife-beaters, rapists, etc.]] to favor the Ichigo/Rukia coupling. Granted, it happens less than Orihime bashing, but ''still''...
** Actually, Renji hate has always been here and there. It's much more passive-aggressive than the loud and misogyny-based Orihime hate, though: the culprits tend to say Renji doesn't deserve Rukia's prospect romantic feelings for having contributed to her arrest (nevermind that Byakuya was in charge and thus Renji was bound to be there whether he wanted or not, which caused him quite a bit of angst), whine because he stepped out of her life for years after she was adopted by the Kuchiki clan (because it's not like he thought that Rukia would have trouble [[UptownGirl for keeping bonds to someone who was under her new social status]]), etc. Threfore, for these people Renji is a massive, idiotic, woman-hating loser who will never measure up to Rukia's Perfect Man Ichigo ''and'' must have been considered as a possible love interest for her '''only''' by those who want to split up Ichigo and Rukia (Nevermind all the ShipTease between Rukia and Renji themselves, or even the scene where [[spoiler: Renji takes a HUGE risk via challenging Ichigo to "punish" him for putting Rukia at risk, and once he loses, he '''begs''' Ichigo to save her in his stead]]) [[http://true-love-ichihichi.tumblr.com/post/21746366036/arcadiasilver-yes-because-the-best-way-to-show Here is a very, VERY blatant (and also very innacurate) example of said Renji hate.]]

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* Speaking of Renji, some twist both him ''and'' [[AloofBigBrother Byakuya]] into [[DomesticAbuse wife-beaters, rapists, etc.]] to favor the Ichigo/Rukia coupling. Granted, it happens less than Orihime bashing, but ''still''...\n** Actually, Renji hate has always been here and there. It's much more passive-aggressive than the loud and misogyny-based Orihime hate, though: the culprits tend to say Renji doesn't deserve Rukia's prospect romantic feelings for having contributed to her arrest (nevermind that Byakuya was in charge and thus Renji was bound to be there whether he wanted or not, which caused him quite a bit of angst), whine because he stepped out of her life for years after she was adopted by the Kuchiki clan (because it's not like he thought that Rukia would have trouble [[UptownGirl for keeping bonds to someone who was under her new social status]]), etc. Threfore, for these people Renji is a massive, idiotic, woman-hating loser who will never measure up to Rukia's Perfect Man Ichigo ''and'' must have been considered as a possible love interest for her '''only''' by those who want to split up Ichigo and Rukia (Nevermind all the ShipTease between Rukia and Renji themselves, or even the scene where [[spoiler: Renji takes a HUGE risk via challenging Ichigo to "punish" him for putting Rukia at risk, and once he loses, he '''begs''' Ichigo to save her in his stead]]) [[http://true-love-ichihichi.tumblr.com/post/21746366036/arcadiasilver-yes-because-the-best-way-to-show Here is a very, VERY blatant (and also very innacurate) example of said Renji hate.]]stead]]).



* And recently many rabid [[MindGameShip Ulquiorra/Orihime]] fans have joined in the ShipToShipCombat against Ichigo/Orihime (and sometimes even Renji/Rukia). Surprisingly they never seem to actually defend Ulquiorra/Orihime; in fact, their level of sheer and utter ''hatred'' for Orihime and the Ichigo/Orihime pairing sometimes reaches ''scary'' levels, and one has to wonder just why they claim to ship a pairing that involves someone they hate so much. (The answer is, of course, that most of them rabidly ship Ichigo/Rukia and treat Ulquiorra/Orihime as only ShipMates, much to the annoyance of real Ulquiorra/Orihime fans who actually ship the pair and don't give a damn about Ichigo/Rukia.) [[http://ripvanwinkle.deviantart.com/#/d4evoke A good example is this "Ulquihime" essay.]] According to the "writer", Ulquiorra's feelings for Orihime asre Complete and Absolute ~True Love~ that should never be denied or challenged, but Orihime's feelings for Ichigo are total little girl shit that doesn't matter unless it's to point how immature and horrible she is. [[DoubleStandard No, just no.]]

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* And recently many Many rabid [[MindGameShip Ulquiorra/Orihime]] fans have joined in the ShipToShipCombat against Ichigo/Orihime (and sometimes even Renji/Rukia). Surprisingly they never seem to actually defend Ulquiorra/Orihime; in fact, their level of sheer and utter ''hatred'' for Orihime and the Ichigo/Orihime pairing sometimes reaches ''scary'' levels, and one has to wonder just why they claim to ship a pairing that involves someone they hate so much. (The answer is, of course, that most of them rabidly ship Ichigo/Rukia and treat Ulquiorra/Orihime as only ShipMates, much to the annoyance of real Ulquiorra/Orihime fans who actually ship the pair and don't give a damn about Ichigo/Rukia.) [[http://ripvanwinkle.deviantart.com/#/d4evoke A good example is this "Ulquihime" essay.]] According to the "writer", Ulquiorra's feelings for Orihime asre Complete and Absolute ~True Love~ that should never be denied or challenged, but Orihime's feelings for Ichigo are total little girl shit that doesn't matter unless it's to point how immature and horrible she is. [[DoubleStandard No, just no.]])



** There's an Ichihime fan on {{Youtube}} who wrote a fifteen-minute rant against Ulquihime [[http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=1lyDyCD59ks here]] (Part One, even). Not only does she use [[InsaneTrollLogic completely absurd logic]] like saying Ulquiorra said he'd kill Orihime as soon as he got the chance, which he never did, she also said that ''any Ulquihime fan who tried to defend their pairing would have their comment deleted''. Including the reasonable ones. [[SarcasmMode Because apparently if you're not an Ichihime fan and you don't agree with her a hundred percent, your opinion doesn't matter]].



* Some of the most rabid [[TheWoobie Momo Hinamori]] haters are [[WhiteHairedPrettyBoy Hitsugaya]] / [[MsFanservice Matsumoto]] shippers who have somehow convinced themselves that Hitsugaya isn't allowed to [[TenchiSolution care for two girls at the same time]] (even if it's in different ways) and ''must'' choose between his sexy and self-assured lieutenant and [[BreakTheCutie his broken]] [[NotBloodSiblings adoptive sister]] and then run the girl he doesn't pick with his own sword. Or maybe that's because those fans also happen to [[TheScrappy hate Hinamori]], even if she's not paired with Hitsugaya at all. And finally, she's not safe from het-pairing lovers only: Momo is also often bashed for the sake of some yaoi pairs, like Aizen/Gin.
** It doesn't end there. Momo is likewise the main target from Hitsugaya/Matsumoto shippers for - you guessed it - [[RealWomenNeverWearDresses being SO loyal to Aizen, that she was in traumatized denial of his betrayal for quite some time after he stabbed her]]. Because ''how dare she'' be affected by all the shit she went through and react ''like a normal person would''.
* A very, ''very'' welcome subversion comes along the lines of Ichigo/Nelliel. Neither the [=IchiHime=] nor the [=IchiRuki=] shippers have ever attacked Nelliel for her affectionate behavior towards Ichigo. In fact, most of them actually ''like'' Nelliel, and a few even have her as a sub-pairing that they enjoy toying with in some fanart or fanfiction. It helps that she's both a GenkiGirl ''and'' an ActionGirl.

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* Some of the most rabid [[TheWoobie Momo Hinamori]] Hinamori]]:
** Some of her most rabid
haters are [[WhiteHairedPrettyBoy Hitsugaya]] / [[MsFanservice Matsumoto]] shippers who have somehow convinced themselves that Hitsugaya isn't allowed to [[TenchiSolution care for two girls at the same time]] (even if it's in different ways) and ''must'' choose between his sexy and self-assured lieutenant and [[BreakTheCutie his broken]] [[NotBloodSiblings adoptive sister]] and then run the girl he doesn't pick with his own sword. Or maybe that's because those fans also happen to [[TheScrappy hate Hinamori]], even if she's not paired with Hitsugaya at all. And finally, she's not safe from het-pairing lovers only: Momo is also often bashed for the sake of some yaoi pairs, like Aizen/Gin.
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Aizen/Gin. It doesn't end there. Momo is likewise the main target from Hitsugaya/Matsumoto shippers for - you guessed it - [[RealWomenNeverWearDresses being SO loyal to Aizen, that she was in traumatized denial of his betrayal for quite some time after he stabbed her]]. her. Because ''how dare she'' be affected by all the shit she went through and react ''like a normal person would''.
* A very, ''very'' welcome subversion comes along the lines of Ichigo/Nelliel. Neither the [=IchiHime=] nor the [=IchiRuki=] shippers have ever attacked Nelliel for her affectionate behavior towards Ichigo. In fact, most of them actually ''like'' Nelliel, and a few even have her as a sub-pairing that they enjoy toying with in some fanart or fanfiction. It helps that she's both a GenkiGirl ''and'' an ActionGirl.
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* '''Subverted''' with Riruka Dokugamine; ''none'' of the Ichigirl pairings have attacked her for being interested in Ichigo, mainly due to how HilarityEnsues whenever she expresses it around him.
** It also sorta helps that Riruka's {{Tsundere}} traits make an EnsembleDarkHorse in general, ''and'' that she has [[ShipTease some chemistry with]] ''[[LesYay Orihime]]'' as well.
* It doesn't help that the entire ''{{Bleach}}'' series is a) long running, b) Shonen, and c) likes to draw out its action scenes. Oh, and the mangaka likes to keep things intentionally vague about relationships for some reason (even ''{{Naruto}}'' has more relationship development). Hence people with preferred characters start to [[ShippingGoggles pick and choose]] to enhance relationship development.
** WordOfGod has said that he feels that the characters have more potential than just falling in love. Then again, this comes from the man that/ also said [[{{Troll}} the more hate Orihime gets, the more screen-time he gives her.]]

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* '''Subverted''' with Riruka Dokugamine; ''none'' of the Ichigirl pairings have attacked her for being interested in Ichigo, mainly due to how HilarityEnsues whenever she expresses it around him.
** It also sorta helps that Riruka's {{Tsundere}} traits make an EnsembleDarkHorse in general, ''and'' that she has [[ShipTease some chemistry with]] ''[[LesYay Orihime]]'' as well.
* It doesn't help that the entire ''{{Bleach}}'' ''Manga/{{Bleach}}'' series is a) long running, b) Shonen, and c) likes to draw out its action scenes. Oh, and the mangaka likes to keep things intentionally vague about relationships for some reason (even ''{{Naruto}}'' has more relationship development). Hence people with preferred characters start to [[ShippingGoggles pick and choose]] to enhance relationship development.
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development. WordOfGod has said that he feels that the characters have more potential than just falling in love. Then again, this comes from the man that/ also said [[{{Troll}} the more hate Orihime gets, the more screen-time he gives her.]]
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** There's an Ichihime fan on {{Youtube}} who wrote a fifteen-minute rant against Ulquihime [[http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=1lyDyCD59ks here]] (Part One, even). Not only does she use group all Ulquihime fans together, deny canon evidence, and make up her own evidence (like saying Ulquiorra said he'd kill Orihime as soon as he got the chance, which he never did), she also said that ''any Ulquihime fan who tried to defend their pairing would have their comment deleted''. Including the reasonable ones. [[SarcasmMode Because apparently if you're not an Ichihime fan and you don't agree with her a hundred percent, your opinion doesn't matter]].

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** There's an Ichihime fan on {{Youtube}} who wrote a fifteen-minute rant against Ulquihime [[http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=1lyDyCD59ks here]] (Part One, even). Not only does she use group all Ulquihime fans together, together as rapid Ichihime bashers, deny canon evidence, and make up her own evidence (like saying Ulquiorra said he'd kill Orihime as soon as he got the chance, which he never did), she also said that ''any Ulquihime fan who tried to defend their pairing would have their comment deleted''. Including the reasonable ones. [[SarcasmMode Because apparently if you're not an Ichihime fan and you don't agree with her a hundred percent, your opinion doesn't matter]].
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* And recently many rabid [[MindGameShip Ulquiorra/Orihime]] fans have joined in the ShipToShipCombat against Ichigo/Orihime (and sometimes even Renji/Rukia). Surprisingly they never seem to actually defend Ulquiorra/Orihime; in fact, their level of sheer and utter ''hatred'' for Orihime and the Ichigo/Orihime pairing sometimes reaches ''scary'' levels, and one has to wonder just why they claim to ship a pairing that involves someone they hate so much. (The answer is, of course, that most of them rabidly ship Ichigo/Rukia and treat Ulquiorra/Orihime as only ShipMates, much to the annoyance of real Ulquiorra/Orihime fans who actually ship the pair and don't give a damn about Ichigo/Rukia.) [[http://ripvanwinkle.deviantart.com/#/d4evoke A good example is this "Ulquihime" essay.]] According to the "writer", Ulquiorra's feelings for Orihime asre Complete and Absolute ~True Love~ that should never be denied or challenged, but Orihime's feelings for Ichigo are total little girl shit that doesn't matter unless it's to point how immature and horrible she is. [[DoubleStandard No, just no.]]

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* And recently many rabid [[MindGameShip Ulquiorra/Orihime]] fans have joined in the ShipToShipCombat against Ichigo/Orihime (and sometimes even Renji/Rukia). Surprisingly they never seem to actually defend Ulquiorra/Orihime; in fact, their level of sheer and utter ''hatred'' for Orihime and the Ichigo/Orihime pairing sometimes reaches ''scary'' levels, and one has to wonder just why they claim to ship a pairing that involves someone they hate so much. (The answer is, of course, that most of them rabidly ship Ichigo/Rukia and treat Ulquiorra/Orihime as only ShipMates, much to the annoyance of real Ulquiorra/Orihime fans who actually ship the pair and don't give a damn about Ichigo/Rukia.) [[http://ripvanwinkle.deviantart.com/#/d4evoke A good example is this "Ulquihime" essay.]] According to the "writer", Ulquiorra's feelings for Orihime asre Complete and Absolute ~True Love~ that should never be denied or challenged, but Orihime's feelings for Ichigo are total little girl shit that doesn't matter unless it's to point how immature and horrible she is. [[DoubleStandard No, just no.]])



** There's an Ichihime fan on {{Youtube}} who wrote a fifteen-minute rant against Ulquihime [[http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=1lyDyCD59ks here]] (Part One, even). Not only does she use [[InsaneTrollLogic completely absurd logic]] like saying Ulquiorra said he'd kill Orihime as soon as he got the chance, which he never did, she also said that ''any Ulquihime fan who tried to defend their pairing would have their comment deleted''. Including the reasonable ones. [[SarcasmMode Because apparently if you're not an Ichihime fan and you don't agree with her a hundred percent, your opinion doesn't matter]].

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** There's an Ichihime fan on {{Youtube}} who wrote a fifteen-minute rant against Ulquihime [[http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=1lyDyCD59ks here]] (Part One, even). Not only does she use [[InsaneTrollLogic completely absurd logic]] like group all Ulquihime fans together, deny canon evidence, and make up her own evidence (like saying Ulquiorra said he'd kill Orihime as soon as he got the chance, which he never did, did), she also said that ''any Ulquihime fan who tried to defend their pairing would have their comment deleted''. Including the reasonable ones. [[SarcasmMode Because apparently if you're not an Ichihime fan and you don't agree with her a hundred percent, your opinion doesn't matter]].
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*** This is, of course, assuming Aizen's claim of having been manipulating Ichigo's entire life is actually true and not a lie he made up to mess with Ichigo's head.
*** It is also rather silly. Just because a character arranged for a meeting does not mean that all the emotions and development between those characters is automatically rendered invalid. It's not just a blind claim either: Kubo wrote the words about "The Story of Destiny" himself.



** And if you look at the discussion page for this section, well... the rabid Ichigo/Rukia fans are so threatened by Orihime that they've also ''trolled this very wiki'' to attack the character, the Ichigo/Orihime pairing, '''and''' the fans of both.



* And recently many rabid [[MindGameShip Ulquiorra/Orihime]] fans have joined in the ShipToShipCombat against Ichigo/Orihime (and sometimes even Renji/Rukia). Surprisingly they never seem to actually defend Ulquiorra/Orihime; in fact, their level of sheer and utter ''hatred'' for Orihime and the Ichigo/Orihime pairing sometimes reaches ''scary'' levels, and one has to wonder just why they claim to ship a pairing that involves someone they hate so much. (The answer is, of course, that most of them rabidly ship Ichigo/Rukia and treat Ulquiorra/Orihime as only ShipMates, much to the annoyance of real Ulquiorra/Orihime fans who actually ship the pair and don't give a damn about Ichigo/Rukia.)

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* And recently many rabid [[MindGameShip Ulquiorra/Orihime]] fans have joined in the ShipToShipCombat against Ichigo/Orihime (and sometimes even Renji/Rukia). Surprisingly they never seem to actually defend Ulquiorra/Orihime; in fact, their level of sheer and utter ''hatred'' for Orihime and the Ichigo/Orihime pairing sometimes reaches ''scary'' levels, and one has to wonder just why they claim to ship a pairing that involves someone they hate so much. (The answer is, of course, that most of them rabidly ship Ichigo/Rukia and treat Ulquiorra/Orihime as only ShipMates, much to the annoyance of real Ulquiorra/Orihime fans who actually ship the pair and don't give a damn about Ichigo/Rukia.)) [[http://ripvanwinkle.deviantart.com/#/d4evoke A good example is this "Ulquihime" essay.]] According to the "writer", Ulquiorra's feelings for Orihime asre Complete and Absolute ~True Love~ that should never be denied or challenged, but Orihime's feelings for Ichigo are total little girl shit that doesn't matter unless it's to point how immature and horrible she is. [[DoubleStandard No, just no.]]
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** There's an Ichihime fan on {{Youtube}} who wrote a fifteen-minute rant against Ulquihime [[http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=1lyDyCD59ks here]] (Part One, even). Not only does she use [[InsaneTrollLogic completely absurd logic]] like saying Ulquiorra said he'd kill Orihime as soon as he got the chance, which he never did, she also said that ''any Ulquihime fan who tried to defend their pairing would have their comment deleted''. Including the reasonable ones. [[SarcasmMode Because apparently if you're not an Ichihime fan and you don't agree with her a hundred percent, your opinion doesn't matter.]].

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** There's an Ichihime fan on {{Youtube}} who wrote a fifteen-minute rant against Ulquihime [[http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=1lyDyCD59ks here]] (Part One, even). Not only does she use [[InsaneTrollLogic completely absurd logic]] like saying Ulquiorra said he'd kill Orihime as soon as he got the chance, which he never did, she also said that ''any Ulquihime fan who tried to defend their pairing would have their comment deleted''. Including the reasonable ones. [[SarcasmMode Because apparently if you're not an Ichihime fan and you don't agree with her a hundred percent, your opinion doesn't matter.]].matter]].

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