History DethroningMoment / TotalDrama

* Tropers/toadgamer80: Same episode as mentioned above, but Mal and your friendly neighborhood MarySue, Zoey, making the final two. Especially when a trailer outright SPOILED that [[spoiler: Mal would revert back to Mike]], even if it wasn't obvious, plus neither of them are original contestants which makes it completely pointless for ''All-Stars''. And Courtney, who would have been a prime candidate to win, was completely destroyed in the span of a single episode. Despite most of the Internet despising Zoey, she has tons of younger fans because she's "nice" and devoid of a personality, she's most likely our official winner this season.

* {{ThomasVeggieDramaFan}}: I'm sacrificing my previous pick of "Sundae Muddy Sundae" for the episode that came after it that made it look good in comparison which is "The Bold and the Booty-ful" (or as I call it "The Bold and the Sh*#ty-ful" which would have been a more apt title) and it's not simply because of [[spoiler: Gwen's elimination which continued the sad trend of all her eliminations being non-dignified]] but it's because of what had to happen in order for [[spoiler: her to be eliminated]]. Prior to this episode, the season did a very good job of not using any toilet humor which had previously plagued past seasons like ''Action'' & ''World Tour'' but for it to suddenly be brought back in this episode with one of the worst examples of it being used not just in this show but all of television in general (bear feces on a painting, really? Are these writers ''freaking 10?!'') which [[spoiler: also causes her elimination]] is what makes this the worst episode of not only ''All-Stars'' but of the entire series hands down!

* {{ThomasVeggieDramaFan}}: I'm sacrificing my previous pick of "Sundae Muddy Sundae" for the episode that came after it that made it look good in comparison which is "The Bold and the Booty-ful" (or as I call it "The Bold and the Sh*#ty-ful" which would have been a more apt title) and it's not simply because of [[spoiler: Gwen's elimination which continued the sad trend of all her eliminations being non-dignified]] but it's because of what had to happen in order for [[spoiler: her to be eliminated]]. Prior to this episode, the season did a very good job of not using any toilet humor which had previously plagued past seasons like ''Action'' & ''World Tour'' but for it to suddenly be brought back in this episode with one of the worst examples of it being used not just in this show but all of television in general (bear feces on a painting, really? Are these writers ''freaking 10?!'') which [[spoiler: also causes her elimination]] is what makes this the worst episode of not only ''All-Stars'' but of the entire series hands down! While the last episode convinced me that Fresh TV is run by Nazis, this episode convinced me that not only are they run by Nazis but that it would be for the best if they simply stop continuing to make this show or simply go bankrupt!

* {{ThomasVeggieDramaFan}}: I'm sacrificing my previous pick of "Sundae Muddy Sundae" for the episode that came after it which made it look good in comparison which is "The Bold and the Booty-ful" (or as I call it "The Bold and the Sh*#ty-ful" which would have been a more apt title) and it's not simply because of [[spoiler: Gwen's elimination which continued the sad trend of all her eliminations being non-dignified]] but it's because of what had to happen in order for [[spoiler: her to be eliminated]]. Prior to this episode, the season did a very good job of not using any toilet humor which had previously plagued past seasons like ''Action'' & ''World Tour'' but for it to suddenly be brought back in this episode with one of the worst examples of it being used not just in this show but all of television in general (bear feces on a painting, really? Are these writers ''freaking 10?!'') which [[spoiler: also causes her elimination]] is what makes this the worst episode of not only ''All-Stars'' but of the entire series hands down! While the last episode convinced me that Fresh TV is run by Nazis, this episode convinced me that not only are they run by Nazis but that it would be for the best if they simply stop continuing to make this show or simply go bankrupt!

* {{ThomasVeggieDramaFan}}: I'm sacrificing my previous pick of "Sundae Muddy Sundae" for the episode that came after it which made it look good in comparison which is "The Bold and the Booty-ful" (or as I call it "The Bold and the Sh*#ty-ful" which would have been a more apt title) and it's not simply because of [[spoiler: Gwen's elimination which continued the sad trend of all her eliminations being non-dignified]] but it's because of what had to happen in order for her to be eliminated. Prior to this episode, the season did a very good job of not using any toilet humor which had previously plagued past seasons like ''Action'' & ''World Tour'' but for it to suddenly be brought back in this episode with one of the worst examples of it being used not just in this show but all of television in general (bear feces on a painting, really? Are these writers ''freaking 10?!'') which [[spoiler: causes her elimination]] is what makes this the worst episode of not only ''All-Stars'' but of the entire series hands down! While the last episode convinced me that Fresh TV is run by Nazis, this episode convinced me that not only are they run by Nazis but that it would be for the best if they simply stop continuing to make this show or simply go bankrupt!

** {{ThomasVeggieDramaFan}}: This Troper agrees, as this episode basically made everything about this season (aside from the Mike/Mal storyline) completely pointless!
*** {{Sendo}} : Considering how much Gwen was working at making amends with Courtney and how she let other things not ruin their friendship, it seems rather strange for Gwen to let a strategic list be what ends it. Then the vote for yourself thing sounds like a round about stab in the back when having her vote Scott would have been more of a sign of trust since it blows a hole in the whole list plan. The furthest would have worked if worked if worded different since she did not appear in the beginning of action. With how it is worded it is very much an error.

** {{ThomasVeggieDramaFan}}: This Troper agrees, Aside from this episode basically making everything about this season (aside from the Mike/Mal storyline) completely pointless, this was the one that convinced me that Fresh TV is run by Nazis and that all the writers involved this season need to be given pink slips!

** {{ThomasVeggieDramaFan}}: This Troper agrees, Aside from this episode basically making everything about this season (aside from the Mike/Mal storyline) completely pointless, this was the one that convinced me that Fresh TV is run by Nazis and that all the writers involved this season need to be given pink slips!

* Tropers/MightyMewtron: I'm sacrificing "The Ex Files" for "Sundae Muddy Sundae", because the latter's [[CharacterDerailment destruction of Courtney's character]] makes the former's look tame. So after ten episodes of building up Courtney's friendship with Gwen and relationship with Scott, having her appear to develop, she undergoes a rapid FaceHeelTurn into her ''Action'' personality. Not to mention the continuity errors (despite stating this was the furthest she'd gotten, being in the final five, she was in the final ''four'' in Action, and she specifically stated having a strong stomach in ''World Tour'' and ate Al's food for him, yet couldn't eat her own gross ice cream). And her [[spoiler:elimination]] was so sudden and predictable, it didn't even offer a good conclusion for her time on the show! This episode may possibly hold the record for "quickest CharacterDerailment for ''Total Drama'' ever."

* ccarlson85: To provide an ''All-Stars'' moment (as most of my other problems with the show have already been listed), I'd like to add the ending of the episode "Food Fright". Now, as much as I like Sam and wanted to see him go far this season, I don't have problems with him being eliminated as much as I do ''the reason'' why he got eliminated. [[CrowningMomentOfAwesome After Sam owns Alejandro in the challenge]], causing the Villains to go to the elimination ceremony for the third time in a row, Chris reveals that Sam had actually cheated by stuffing some of the pancake his team was supposed to eat in his pockets. Sam says that he saved it because he was worried about going to Boney Island again and wanted to save some food just in case. Not only is this [[OutOfCharacterMoment out of character for]] [[NiceGuy Sam]] (unless he was saving it for whoever went to Boney Island that night), it seemed like a major AssPull, in the episode's ''final few minutes'' no less, to get him eliminated. Why SnapBack such an awesome moment for a character that had spent the first three episodes of the season as TheChewToy just to make him look like a somewhat selfish [[CheatersNeverProsper cheater?]

** Tropers/MightyMewtron: The following episode made things worse. Okay, we understand that Gwen is pretty much as guilty as Duncan in this whole "cheating" fiasco. But that doesn't justify why Courtney wants to ''murder'' her (as evidenced in the song's visuals)! Courtney has the right to be angry about all this, but she seems to be targetting Gwen ''before'' Duncan. True, targetting Gwen may only be because Gwen is on her team- and therefore, easier to get rid off- but Duncan and Courtney have apparently hated each other ''far'' more in the previous seasons. Duncan gets a lot of physical torment, but it's still pretty imbalanced. At least Gwen had the 10 seconds of guilt- it's 10 more than Duncan ever had. Not to mention the episode also killed any chance of Courtney returning to her nice self at all.

** Tropers/MightyMewtron: I must concur on Gwen's CharacterDerailment. This arc seemed to derail everyone involved in the triangle, but taking a major protagonist and switching her around like that (putting her on the (''villain's team'' in TDAS, but that's a whole other can of worms) is pretty BS.

** Tropers/MightyMewtron: Considering how Mike's MPD is PlayedForLaughs in ''Revenge'', the writers probably don't even care about being offensive to those with mental disabilities.

* ccarlson85: To provide an ''All-Stars'' moment (as most of my other problems with the show have already been listed), I'd like to add the ending of the episode "Food Fright". Now, as much as I like Sam and wanted to see him go far this season, I don't have problems with him being eliminated as much as I do ''the reason'' why he got eliminated. [[CrowningMomentOfAwesome After Sam owns Alejandro in the challenge]], causing the Villains to go to the elimination ceremony for the third time in a row, Chris reveals that Sam had actually cheated by stuffing some of the pancake his team was supposed to eat in his pockets. Sam says that he saved it because he was worried about going to Boney Island again and wanted to save some food just in case. Not only is this [[OutOfCharacterMoment out of character for]] [[NiceGuy Sam]] (unless he was saving it for whoever went to Boney Island that night), it seemed like a major AssPull, in the episode's ''final few minutes'' no less, to get him eliminated. Why SnapBack such an awesome moment for a character that had spent the first three episodes of the season as TheChewToy just to make him look like a somewhat selfish [[CheatersNeverProsper cheater?]]

* ccarlson85: To provide an ''All-Stars'' moment (as most of my other problems with the show have already been listed), I'd like to add the ending of the episode "Food Fright". Now, as much as I like Sam and wanted to see him go far this season, I don't have problems with him being eliminated as much as I do ''the reason'' why he got eliminated. [[CrowningMomentOfAwesome After Sam owns Alejandro in the challenge]], causing the Villains to go to the elimination ceremony for the third time in a row, Chris reveals that Sam had actually cheated by stuffing some of the pancake his team was supposed to eat in his pockets. Sam says that he saved it because he was worried about going to Boney Island again and wanted to save some food just in case. Not only is this [[OutOfCharacterMoment out of character for]] [[NiceGuy Sam]] (unless he was saving it for whoever went to Boney Island that night), it seemed like a major AssPull, in the episode's ''final few minutes'' no less, to get him eliminated. Why SnapBack such an awesome moment for a character that had spent the first three episodes of the season as TheChewToy just to make him look like a somewhat selfish [[CheatersNeverProsper cheater?]]
* {{ThomasVeggieDramaFan}}: "Sundae Muddy Sundae", enough said...

** Tropers/{{ThomasVeggieDramaFan}}: "Sundae Muddy Sundae", enough said...

** Tropers/ThomasVeggieDramaFan: "Sundae Muddy Sundae", enough said...

* ccarlson85: To provide an ''All-Stars'' moment (as most of my other problems with the show have already been listed), I'd like to add the ending of the episode "Food Fright". Now, as much as I like Sam and wanted to see him go far this season, I don't have problems with him being eliminated as much as I do ''the reason'' why he got eliminated. [[CrowningMomentOfAwesome After Sam owns Alejandro in the challenge]], causing the Villains to go to the elimination ceremony for the third time in a row, Chris reveals that Sam had actually cheated by stuffing some of the pancake his team was supposed to eat in his pockets. Sam says that he saved it because he was worried about going to Boney Island again and wanted to save some food just in case. Not only is this [[OutOfCharacterMoment out of character for]] [[NiceGuy Sam]] (unless he was saving it for whoever went to Boney Island that night), it seemed like a major AssPull, in the episode's ''final few minutes'' no less, to get him eliminated. Why SnapBack such an awesome moment for a character that had spent the first three episodes of the season as TheChewToy just to make him look like a somewhat selfish [[CheatersNeverProsper cheater?]]

* ccarlson85: To provide an ''All-Stars'' moment (as most of my other problems with the show have already been listed), I'd like to add the ending of the episode "Food Fright". Now, as much as I like Sam and wanted to see him go far this season, I don't have problems with him being eliminated as much as I do ''the reason'' why he got eliminated. [[CrowningMomentOfAwesome After Sam owns Alejandro in the challenge]], causing the Villains to go to the elimination ceremony for the third time in a row, Chris reveals that Sam had actually cheated by stuffing some of the pancake his team was supposed to eat in his pockets. Sam says that he saved it because he was worried about going to Boney Island again and wanted to save some food just in case. Not only is this [[OutOfCharacterMoment out of character for]] [[NiceGuy Sam]], but it just seemed like a major AssPull to get him eliminated. Why SnapBack such an awesome moment for a character that had spent the first three episodes of the season as TheChewToy just to make him look like a somewhat selfish [[CheatersNeverProsper cheater?]]

* SoulfulGinger17: I love the ''Revenge'' finale, it's probably in my Top 10 favorite episodes of all time, but there is one scene I will never forgive the writers for: [[spoiler: Scott is given the [[Franchise/StarTrek Captain Pike treatment]] for sabotaging his team and blackmail]]. Now I know [[spoiler: Scott]] is the villain, and the villain is supposed to get theirs, [[DudeNotFunny this just came across as cruel]] and everyone except [[NiceGuy Brick and Cameron]] think it ''is'' funny. This is just, ugh, I'm going to stop here, so I don't break my school's computer.

* SoulfulGinger17: I love the ''Revenge'' finale, it's probably in my Top 10 favorite episodes of all time, but there is one scene I will never forgive the writers for: [[spoiler: Scott is given the [[Franchise/StarTrek Captain Pike treatment]] for sabotaging his team and blackmail]]. Now I know [[spoiler: Scott]] is the villain, and the villain is supposed to get theirs, [[DudeNotFunny this just came across as cruel]] and everyone except [[NiceGuy Brick and Cameron]] think it ''is'' funny. This is just, ugh, I'm going to stop here, so I don't break my school's computer.
** Thank God he seems to be better by All-Stars.

* SoulfulGinger17: I love the ''Revenge'' finale, it's probably in my Top 10 favorite episodes of all time, but there is one scene I will never forgive the writers for: [[spoiler: Scott is given the [[Franchise/StarTrek Captain Pike treatment]] for sabotaging his team and blackmail]]. Now I know [[spoiler: Scott]] is the villain, and the villain is supposed to get theirs, [[DudeNotFunny this just came across as cruel]] and everyone except [[NiceGuy Brick and Cameron]] think it ''is'' funny. This is just, ugh, I'm going to stop here, so I don't break my school's computer.

** Tropers/{{Scarletscorpio}}: Actually, Courtney targeting Gwen to me was understandable. With Duncan, while she had the obvious history with him, he was gone for the entire first half of the season up until the London episode. Meanwhile, Courtney was bonding with Gwen. From Courtney's point of view, she finally trusts the girl she's been accusing of trying to steal her boyfriend ([[ProperlyParanoid which turns out to be half correct in that regard]]) and literally the next day, she finds out that the girl whom she finally trusted made out with her boyfriend. She is never told any other details, only that they kissed. So, ignoring the fact that Duncan already got knocked out by Cody, she lashes out at Gwen and seeing the lack remorse on both their sides, she strives to vote(not 'murder') them out starting with Gwen. Which leads to my DMoS in this episode being Gwen confessional at the end of the episode, you know where after everything is said and done and she can clearly her Courtney crying her heart out...she only talks about how 'great' the kiss was and how it's going to affect their (meaning Duncan and Gwen) chances of winning the competition. The girl (who should know the pain of the feeling of betrayal when she thought Trent cheated on her, who was one of the few OnlySaneMan ,raged against Heather when she pulled all those stunts, and was actually one of the more decent characters in terms of niceness) can only say that regrets ruining her and Duncans chances at the million...and not, you know, having a hand in stomping all over a relationship and backstabbing her new friend. Seriously, she is so derailed here that the Geoff derailment in TDA look well-written in comparison; And that's not even covering her actions in Australia eith Cody.

** Tropers/gravigale: Actually, Courtney targeting Gwen to me was understandable. With Duncan, while she had the obvious history with him, he was gone for the entire first half of the season up until the London episode. Meanwhile, Courtney was bonding with Gwen. From Courtney's point of view, she finally trusts the girl she's been accusing of trying to steal her boyfriend ([[ProperlyParanoid which turns out to be half correct in that regard]]) and literally the next day, she finds out that the girl whom she finally trusted made out with her boyfriend. She is never told any other details, only that they kissed. So, ignoring the fact that Duncan already got knocked out by Cody, she lashes out at Gwen and seeing the lack remorse on both their sides, she strives to vote(not 'murder') them out starting with Gwen. Which leads to my DMoS in this episode being Gwen confessional at the end of the episode, you know where after everything is said and done and she can clearly her Courtney crying her heart out...she only talks about how 'great' the kiss was and how it's going to affect their (meaning Duncan and Gwen) chances of winning the competition. The girl (who should know the pain of the feeling of betrayal when she thought Trent cheated on her, who was one of the few OnlySaneMan ,and raged against Heather when she pulled all those stunts) can only say that regrets

** Tropers/gravigale: Actually, Courtney targeting Gwen to me was understandable. With Duncan, while she had the obvious history with him, he was gone for the entire first half of the season up until the London episode. Meanwhile, Courtney was bonding with Gwen. From Courtney's point of view, she finally trusts the girl she's been accusing of trying to steal her boyfriend ([[ProperlyParanoid which turns out to be half correct in that regard]]) and literally the next day, she finds out that the girl whom she finally trusted made out with her boyfriend. She is never told any other details, only that they kissed. So, ignoring the fact that Duncan already got knocked out by Cody, she lashes out at Gwen and seeing the lack remorse on both their sides, she strives to vote out (not 'murder') them out starting with Gwen.

** Tropers/gravigale: Actually, Courtney targeting Gwen to me was understandable. With Duncan, while she had the obvious history with him, he was gone for the entire first half of the season up until the London episode. Meanwhile, Courtney was bonding with Gwen.

** Tropers/gravigale: Greece's Pieces was an awful episode, not just because it was the turning point where the show takes a downturn with this petty, tired love triangle business again or that one of the best and most interesting friendship was destroyed for said triangle, but bcause of Gwen.

** Tropers/gravigale: Okay, as awful as Courtney gets in the second half of the season, that's a bit of overreaction. 'Boyfriend Kisser' wasn't anymore of an indication of a murder plot than 'Versus' proves that Al and Heather are slave drivers or that Izzy is hinted as being a domestic abuser in 'Oh My Izzy' for apparently always using a [[GroinAttack Groin Attack]] against Owen as a "greeting." Back to the subject, Greece's Pieces was an awful episode, not just because it was the turning point where the show takes a downturn with this petty, tired love triangle business again or that one of the best and most interesting friendship was destroyed for said triangle, but bcause of Gwen.

** Tropers/gravigale: Okay, as awful as Courtney gets in the second half of the season, that's a bit of overreaction. 'Boyfriend Kisser' wasn't anymore of an indication of a murder plot than 'Versus' proves that Al and Heather are slave drivers or that Izzy is hinted as being a domestic abuser in 'Oh My Izzy' for apparently always using a [[GroinAttack Groin Attack]] against Owen as a "greeting." Back to the subject, I can understand why Courtney can be mad at Gwen more than Duncan.