History ComicBook / EobardThawne

* HateSink: He is murderous, petty, smug, and selfish. He goes out of his way to be responsible for every single misfortune in Barry's life in ''Flashpoint'', such as the death of his dog, the loss of his house, and his failure to pitch a baseball. He has a ZeroPercentApprovalRating in-universe, and the Rogues went out of their way to desecrate his corpse after Barry finally killed him.

* ImmuneToFate: When he comes BackFromTheDead he displays the ability to not only alter the past via TimeTravel, but remember the events of prior timelines before he changed things. In ''The Button'', he tries to use this as a weapon against [[spoiler:Dr. Manhattan]]. [[spoiler:It doesn't end well for him.]]

* ImmuneToFate: When he comes BackFromTheDead he displays the ability to
not only alter the past via TimeTravel, but remember the events of prior timelines before he changed things. In ''The Button'', he tries to use this as a weapon against [[spoiler:Dr. Manhattan]]. [[spoiler:It doesn't end well for him.]]

* ArchEnemy: Has been this for Barry since UsefulNotes/TheBronzeAgeOfComicBooks. In ''The Flash: Rebirth'', Barry specifically compares his and Thawne's rivalry to that of Franchise/{{Batman}} and ComicBook/TheJoker.

Eobard Thawne, a.k.a. Professor Zoom a.k.a. the Reverse-Flash, is a fictional Creator/DCComics supervillain first appearing in ''Franchise/TheFlash'' vol. 1 #139 (September 1963). He is traditionally an EvilCounterpart and is sometimes considered the ArchEnemy of the Barry Allen Flash.

A completely psychopathic speedster from the 25th century out to destroy everything the Flash family stands for. While his reasons and origin have changed heavily throughout his existence, the one thing that remains is his obsession with and hatred of the Flash legacy, and Barry Allen, the second Flash, in particular. Possessing all the powers of the Flashes (and sometimes more), he abuses his powers for his own self-interest, which usually comes down to how much he can hurt the Flashes. Funnily enough, Thawne himself is an ancestor of Bart Allen's, the second Kid Flash and fourth Flash, a fact he doesn't take kindly to.

* BackFromTheDead: Did this after a 26-year absence just prior to ''Final Crisis'' courtesy of the White Lantern. In the ''Rebirth'' comics he's this again thanks to [[spoiler:Dr. Manhattan]] -- and even manages to pull it again after [[spoiler:Manhattan practically incinerates him in ''The Button'']].

* BigBad: Of several arcs, including ''The Flash: Rebirth'' and ''Flashpoint'', though he's not entirely responsible for the events of the latter.

* BlessedWithSuck: [[spoiler:Eobard can remember every time he's died. It's not helped his already poor mental state.]]

* BornInTheWrongCentury: Despite gloating about how advanced the time-period he comes from is and how everything in DC's "present" is history to him, Thawne has admitted on a couple occasions that he finds the "past" a far more interesting and exciting place compared to his era in the 25th century, where crime is rare and superheroes are a thing of the past.

* CompositeCharacter: The New 52 version of Thawne was half-Thawne and half-Hunter Zolomon. He retained Thawne's full name, a grudge against Barry and involvement in the murder of Nora Allen. However, his design was reminiscent of Hunter's, with black and red eyes while in costume, as well as Hunter's distinction of ''lacking'' SuperSpeed and instead being able to alter the speed at which he moves along a timeline. This version of him later combined with the pre-''Flashpoint'' Thawne, bringing the latter [[StatusQuoIsGod back into continuity as Barry's ArchEnemy]].

** Issues #78-79 of The Flash (vol.2) basically see him running roughshod over Wally West (see the LightningBruiser entry), Jay Garrick, Max Mercury, Johnny Quick and even Hal Jordan as Green Lantern until Wally gets his act together. All the more impressive as he wasn't even that experienced at this point in his timeline.

** One pre-Crisis story featuring Superman indicated he absolutely loathed the Reverse-Flash name, seeing it as his being defined by his greatest enemy. In all pre-New 52 comics he usually (though not exclusively) refers to himself as Professor Zoom, with other DC heroic characters generally calling him the Reverse-Flash, and the Flash Family using the two interchangeably.

* DystopiaJustifiesTheMeans: In the ''New 52'' he becomes the dictator of the 25th century Central City but his people rebel against him due to Flash's legacy. Thus Thawne swears to ruin Flash's legacy at all costs.

* ForTheEvulz: When Zoom recruits his assistance to help ruin Wally's life in ''Rogue War'', he happily admits that while Zoom might want to "teach" Wally that MiseryBuildsCharacter, Thawne is just there to make him suffer. All the more notable as from his perspective he's never even met Wally before.

* ImmuneToFate: When he comes BackFromTheDead he displays the ability to not only alter the past via TimeTravel, but remember the events of prior timelines before he changed things. In ''The Button'', he tries to use this as a weapon against [[spoiler:Dr. Manhattan]]. [[spoiler:It doesn't end well for him.]]

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* HoistByHisOwnPetard: [[spoiler:The "Legion of Zoom" storyline sees him using his phasing powers in a completely new way - to phase into Barry's body and essentially possess him. At the story's conclusion, Barry admits this gave him the idea to phase through Eobard and ground him with the Speed Force - undoing his ParadoxPerson status and resetting him to the benign curator of the Flash museum in the 25th century]].
* HopeSpot: At the end of "Flash Age", he's teamed up with Barry to stop Paradox from existing and wiping out the Flashes, and when it comes down to it chooses not to murder him, instead giving Paradox his life back, so maybe he'll be better...? ''Nope''. [[spoiler:He suddenly kills Godspeed and runs off, taunting Barry about how he'll just keep getting away every time.]]

* ParadoxPerson: He turned into one thanks to his connection with Negative Speed Force in ''The Flash: Rebirth'', able to alter history and be the only one to remember the way things were before. In ''Flashpoint'' he becomes a paradox in that universe due to being from the prior timeline, which allows him to try and kill Barry without fear of losing his powers (though he's killed by Thomas Wayne before he can go through with it). In ''Rebirth'', his return to life gives him the idea to [[ImmuneToFate use this as a weapon]] against [[spoiler:Dr. Manhattan]], reasoning he can use it to steal his reality-altering power for himself. He's [[VillainsWantMercy wrong]]. ''[[StrippedToTheBone Very, very wrong]]''. The "Paradox" arc shows that each time he dies he's reborn in the Negative Speed Force with his memories of what happened before; not only that, but he retains said memories even when he's at points in his timeline (like killing Nora Allen) where he shouldn't.
** Finally undone at the end of "Legion of Zoom" when Barry figures out that the reason this is happening is Thawne has nothing to ground him in the current timeline - so he [[spoiler:phases through Eobard and imparts some Speed Force energy to him - acting as a lightning rod to anchor him to the here-and-now, erasing the Reverse-Flash as he is from existence and "resetting" him to the NiceGuy curator of the Flash museum in his home time period]].

* BodySnatcher: [[spoiler:Uses his phasing powers to take over Barry's body in the "Finish Line" arc]].

* VillainousBreakdown: At the climax of ''ComicBook/TheButton'', he realizes who had caused the ''ComicBook/New52''. Upon seeing him, a being he thinks of as ''God'', he begins pathetically begging for mercy and tries to [[ScrewThisImOuttaHere run for his life]].
-->'''Eobard Thawne:''' ...Hello. [[ComicBook/{{Watchmen}} You]] don't have to be ''shy'' now. I can ''feel'' your presence. Like a wave of static electricity. It's ''powerful'', I'll admit. In fact, I've never encountered anything quite ''like'' it. You've done [[ComicBook/New52 such strange things]] to the timeline. Things I won't begin to question. And you've remained ''hidden''. From all of [[Franchise/TheDCU them]]...but I am not ''like'' them. [[TheConstant My existence is the only constant in a sea of possibilities]]. [[ImmuneToFate I cannot be erased]]. By you. By anyone. ''Show Yourself—''...I...[-my God.-] ''[[OhCrap Wait]]!'' Wait, I didn't ''know! Please! [[IDontWantToDie I don't want to]] [[StrippedToTheBone d]]—''

* OneManArmy: The ''Dark Multiverse'' version of ''Flashpoint'' showed what would happen if he cut loose without Barry around to stop him; on behalf of the United Staes, he kills Aquaman and other a thousand other Atlanteans and then uses that to intimidate the Thermyscirans into standing down. [[spoiler:It takes that universe's Superman and careful planning by Thomas Wayne to defeat him]].

* OneManArmy: The ''Dark Multiverse'' version of ''Flashpoint'' showed what wpuld happen if he cut loose without Barry around to stop him; on behalf of the United Staes, he kills Aquaman and other a thousand other Atlanteans and then uses that to intimidate the Thermyscirans into standing down. [[spoiler:It takes that universe's Superman and careful planning by Thomas Wayne to defeat him]].

-->''You will never find love. You will never be the Flash. Barry Allen destroyed my future. It's time I destroyed '''his.'''''

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** How Batman (Thomas Wayne) [[spoiler:kills him when he runs a sword through Eobard]]. The one opening that Batman had was when Eobard [[spoiler:stopped]]. One of the fastest individuals in fiction, and he [[spoiler:dies when he stops moving]]. Lampshaded by Thomas himself:

* DeathIsCheap: Originally PlayedWith -- while his death was meant to be permanent (and stuck for 26 years until ''The Flash: Rebirth''), subsequent writers would use TimeTravel to bring him back for brief appearances, invoking this trope without actually overturning his death at Barry's hands. Played deadly straight in the ''Rebirth''-era comics, as despite Eobard [[spoiler:getting [[StrippedToTheBone killed]] by a being powerful enough to [[RealityWarper rewrite reality]] itself]] Barry is utterly certain he'll somehow still come BackFromTheDead. [[spoiler:He's right.]]

** After ''Flash: Rebirth (2009)'', [[spoiler:he teams up with Zolomon again to improve both Flashes, which leads to "ComicBook/FlashWar" years later.]]

* DeathIsCheap: Originally played with -- while his death was meant to be permanent (and stuck for 26 years until ''The Flash: Rebirth''), subsequent writers would use TimeTravel to bring him back for brief appearances, invoking this trope without actually overturning his death at Barry's hands. Played deadly straight in the ''Rebirth''-era comics, as despite Eobard [[spoiler:getting [[StrippedToTheBone killed]] by a being powerful enough to [[RealityWarper rewrite reality]] itself]] Barry is utterly certain he'll somehow still come BackFromTheDead. [[spoiler:He's right.]]

* DisproportionateRetribution: Has practically weaponised this -- one issue had him using his powers to ''[[RetGone erase from history]]'' anyone who even remotely antagonised his younger self. And that's not even going into his [[InsaneTrollLogic reasoning]] for trying to ruin Barry's life...

'''Present!Eobard:''' It won't last long. [[IJustWantToBeLoved You will never find love.]] [[SingleTear You will never be the Flash.]] [[InsaneTrollLogic Barry Allen destroyed my future.]]

* HesBack: The ''Rebirth'' comics have served as a large-scale case of this for the pre-''Flashpoint'' Reverse-Flash. Not only has he been portrayed as an even more dire threat than before -- he [[CurbStompBattle absolutely batters]] Batman, Kid Flash and Barry at various points, and [[DeathIsCheap easily returns from]] getting killed by a being powerful enough to rewrite reality itself -- but he's received his highest level of characterisation so far, revealing more about his origins and why his eternal rivalry with Barry has spiralled so far out of control, adding new layers of depth to the Flash's most iconic ArchEnemy.

** How Batman (Thomas Wayne) [[spoiler:kills him when he runs a sword through Eobard]]. The one opening that Batman had was when Eobard [[spoiler:stopped]]. One of the fastest individuals in fiction, and he [[spoiler:dies when he stops moving]]. Lampshaded by Wayne himself:

** Revealing he's the one who killed August Heart's brother for no reason would already put him here, but he also does it [[spoiler:as he suddenly snaps August's neck, just for extra-level knife-twisting dickery.]] Then he runs away, taunting Barry about how he'll be a KarmaHoudini.

** Later, in the ''Rebirth'' series, the post-''Crisis'' Thawne outright dismisses Daniel, stating there is only one Reverse-Flash when Iris and Wallace bring him up.

* ReplacementGoldfish: Hunter clinges onto Eobard as a friend after Wally and notes the similarities between two men.

-->'''Eobard Thawne:''' ...Hello. [[ComicBook/{{Watchmen}} You]] don't have to be ''shy'' now. I can ''feel'' your presence. Like a wave of static electricity. It's ''powerful'', I'll admit. In fact, I've never encountered anything quite ''like'' it. You've done [[ComicBook/New52 such strange things]] to the timeline. Things I won't begin to question. And you've remained ''hidden''. From all of [[Franchise/TheDCU them]]...but I am not ''like'' them. [[TheConstant My existence is the only constant in a sea of possibilities.]] [[ImmuneToFate I cannot be erased.]] By you. By anyone. ''Show Yourself—''...I...[-my God.-] ''[[OhCrap Wait!]]'' Wait, I didn't ''know! Please! [[IDontWantToDie I don't want to]] [[StrippedToTheBone d]]—''

* WhyDontYouJustShootHim: Justified; Thawne can't kill Barry, much as he'd really love to, since Barry generates the Speed Force, and Thawne uses that to fuel his own powers. Otherwise, it'd be easy enough for him -- when he discovers Hot Pursuit is an alternate-universe version of Barry just prior to ''ComicBook/{{Flashpoint}}'', he immediately uses his powers to age him to death. During ''ComicBook/{{Flashpoint}}'', [[spoiler:once Barry has severed the connection between them, Thawne takes full advantage of the opportunity to try, and would've succeeded if Thomas Wayne hadn't been there.]]
** Played with in the New 52 "Zoom" storyline -- he could kill Barry at a ''lot'' of points in the story, but feels the need to completely discredit and humiliate him in front of all of Central City to ruin his legacy, ensuring that Professor Zoom's rule of the Gem Cities won't be wrecked by Flash's legacy. While this all ''sounds'' logical ([[InsaneTrollLogic kind of]]), the actual story makes it clear Professor Zoom's massive psychosis and sheer sadism play a big part in his not killing Barry when he has the chance.

* WouldHitAGirl: Killed Iris Allen by vibrating his hand through her head, tried to kill Fiona Webb the same way, tries to kill Iris ''again'' in ''The Flash: Rebirth'' and traumatises a woman who rejects him into catatonia. He's also only too happy to try and kill Jesse Quick and Irey West during the events of ''The Flash: Rebirth''.

** When a reporter he is interested in spurns his advances, Thawne travels back to her childhood and traumatises her, leaving her effectively brain-dead as an adult.

* AlwaysSomeoneBetter: Going both ways between Barry and Eobard. With Eobard, it's metaphorical and part of the reason that he hates Barry is that he can never be the hero Barry was and he's never able to absolutely defeat Barry. With Barry it's literal as Thawne, the way he was introduced, is even faster than Barry though this has been a case of DependingOnTheWriter but as of modern continuity, Thawne is faster than Barry but Barry is more creative with his use of the speed force and [[SanityHasAdvantages not insane]].

* LightningBruiser: Being connected to the speed force and then later the negative speed force have made Thawne one of the fastest beings in existence, but unlike some with superspeed, his connection gives him a kind of shield that manipulates kinetic energy and inertia so Thawne (and any other speed force speedster) can take insane levels of impact moving at high velocity without serious injury, meaning that when he punches someone the momentum doesn't damage his fists (unless they're really durable like Superman) and he's landing blows with ultra-sonic levels of force behind them.

* SuperSpeed: Naturally. He's even faster than Barry due to the fact that he gained his connection to the speed force (then later making his own negative speed force) using future super science though Barry manages to win because he's more creative than Thawne and Thawne is insane. Just like anyone connected to the speed force or in his case negative speed force, he can move at ultra-high speeds to the point where he can move almost as as fast as light. In pre-crisis continuity and pre-new 52 continuity, he could exceed the speed of light just like the fastest among speedsters and use that to break the time barrier. In the Rebirth continuity, abilities like phasing and breaking the time barrier are explained to be due to the speed force allowing the user to manipulate time and space to a limited extent while travelling through the speed force to jump to different time periods rather than breaking the time barrier.
* TimeMaster: Before ''Rebirth'', the New 52 Thawne, like the pre-reboot Zoom, had no Super Speed, but his ability to alter his personal flow of time made him look considerably faster than Barry. Interestingly, this incarnation's powers still seemed seemed to have elements of his pre-New 52 speedster self -- he could both go intangible and time travel using a Cosmic Treadmill, things the pre-''Flashpoint'' Zoom (Hunter Zolomon, also this trope) was never able to do. As of ''The Button'', Thawne is back to using classic superspeed again.

* TragicVillain: Yes. Really. While Thawne's actions and personality are so evil and atrocious that he's probably beyond redemption and FreudianExcuseIsNoExcuse for Thawne, he has been genuinely dealt a bad hand from the get go. Born to an era that's cold and without passion while brought up by [[ParentalNeglect parents who were extremely un-involved with actual parenting]], having no real friends left his childhood was dark and lonely. He was so desperate for affection, recognition, or hell even the smallest sliver of light that he became obsessed with Barry Allen and the legacy of the Flash. After, living in a fantasy and dreaming of how wonderful the Flash was and how great it must be to become a hero, Thawne found a way to gain a connection to the speed force and become the Flash of his era. He later traveled to the past to meet his hero with the hopes of going on adventures with him and finding the acceptance, recognition, and friendship he couldn't find in his own time. Once arriving in the present he learns to his horror that not only was he never meant to be a Flash but he was to become his hero's greatest enemy and an irredeemable villain. Even more tragic is that if Thawne had been just a bit stronger emotionally, had support, and didn't have an already somewhat unstable mind, he might have been able to overcome the despair from this realization and tried to ScrewDestiny like so many other heroes have done in the DC universe.

Eobard Thawne, a.k.a. Professor Zoom a.k.a. the Reverse-Flash, is a fictional Creator/DCComics supervillain first appearing in ''ComicBook/TheFlash'' vol. 1 #139 (September 1963). He is traditionally an EvilCounterpart and is sometimes considered the ArchEnemy of the Barry Allen Flash.

* The ''Series/{{Arrowverse}}'', played by Matt Letscher and Tom Cavannagh[[note]]As his original persona and the identity he impersonates, respectively[[/note]]

* BreakoutVillain: While he's still solely fixated on the Flash Family, the TurnOfTheMillenium promotes Eobard to a multiversal threat due to his constant tampering with time.

Eobard Thawne, aka the Reverse-Flash, is a fictional Creator/DCComics supervillain first appearing in ''ComicBook/TheFlash'' vol. 1 #139 (September 1963). He is traditionally an EvilCounterpart and is sometimes considered the ArchEnemy of the Barry Allen Flash.

* The ''Series/{{Arrowverse}}'', played by Tom Cavannagh

* AccidentalMurder: The recipient: Barry infamously broke his neck by accident when trying to stop the Reverse-Flash murdering his fiance. The [[ComicBook/TheTrialOfTheFlash murder trial resulting from this]] lasted over two years of comics.

* AmbiguouslyGay / AmbiguouslyBi: Modern versions of the character ''heavily'' skirt this line and the ''Rebirth'' version is probably the closest yet. He dedicated his entire being to Barry, wanting to be acknowledged and loved by him but Barry's return was less than satisfying to his needs. His reaction to Barry's lack of interest in him can be compared to any {{Yandere}} character and ''The Color of Fear'' prologue arc had Barry outright comparing Thawne to Multiplex, a villain who attacked Barry's birthday party to get revenge from the girl who rejected him. The issue titles of the ''Running Scared'' storyline are all obsessive love songs [[note]]"Every Breath You Take" by The Police, "One Way or Another" by Blondie and "I'll Possess Your Heart" by Death Cab for Cutie[[/note]], which adds more to suspicions. Unfortunately though these implications fall into more [[DepravedHomosexual negative]] [[DepravedBisexual stereotypes]].

** In "ComicBook/TheReturnOfBarryAllen" it was revealed he used to be a huge fan of the Flash, to the point where he copied his powers and altered his appearance to look like Barry Allen. Then he time traveled to the past and found he would become [[YouCantFightFate the Flash's greatest villain]]. He took it [[IdentityAmnesia poorly]], to say the least.

--> '''Eobard:''' [[ArchEnemy The man I most want dead]]. The man I'd give anything to kill! Has to live... or I die.

* UnreliableNarrator: Because he's from the future and is a Flash fanboy, he has extensive knowledge of the Flashes and their families' lives. Of course, he also lies quite a bit, and is also mentally unstable, so everything he says has to be taken with a grain of salt. One example would be the Flash Museum (of his time) saying that Eobard Thawne was Barry's best friend... this is blatant lies, as his actions as the Reverse-Flash are publicly known, and he's an outlaw in his own time. Yes, his narration is so unreliable that it extends to his own museum displays, meaning ''everything'' in that museum is unreliable! Later still, it was established that said museum was changing because of alterations to the timeline, so even if he ''thinks'' he's telling the truth, he may not be.

* HopeSpot: At the end of "Flash Age", he's teamed up with Barry to stop Paradox from existing and wiping out the Flashes, and without murdering, instead giving Paradox his life back, so maybe he'll be better...? ''Nope''. [[spoiler:He suddenly kills Godspeed and runs off, taunting Barry about how he'll just keep getting away every time.]]

->'''AKA:''' Professor Eobard Thawne
->'''First appearance:''' ''The Flash'' vol. 1 #139 (September 1963)
->'''Hair color:''' Red/silver
->'''Eye color:''' Yellow

A completely psychopathic speedster from the 25th century out to destroy everything the Flash family stands for. While his reasons and origin have changed heavily throughout his existence, the one thing that remains is his obsession with and hatred of the Flash legacy, and Barry Allen, the Flash II, in particular. Possessing all the powers of the Flashes (and sometimes more), he abuses his powers for his own self-interest, which usually comes down to how much he can hurt the Flashes. Funnily enough, Thawne himself is an ancestor of Bart Allen's, the second Kid Flash and fourth Flash, a fact he doesn't take kindly to.

-->[[Characters/TheFlash Back to the main The Flash characters index]]

!!Professor Zoom / Reverse-Flash I (Eobard Thawne)

* TheUnfavourite: His parents favored his brother Robern over him, which led to Eobard going back in time and erasing him from existence. Later in his life, he was rejected by his crush for someone else - which led to him erasing every man his crush ever loved from existence, leaving her a traumatised mess as everyone she loved kept dying. The tipping point was watching Barry sharing with Wally the advice he originally gave to Thawne, a moment Thawne cherished until that point.

* TimeMaster: Before ''Rebirth'', the New 52 Thawne, like the pre-reboot Zoom, had no Super Speed, but his ability to alter his personal flow of time made him look considerably faster than Barry. Interestingly, this incarnation's powers seemed to still had elements of his pre-New 52 speedster self -- he had shown to be able to both go intangible and to time travel using a Cosmic Treadmill, things the pre-''Flashpoint'' Zoom was never able to do. As of ''The Button'', Thawne is back to using classic superspeed again.

* TheUnfavourite: His parents favored his brother Robern over him, which lead to Eobard going back in time and erase him out of existence. Later on his life, he was rejected by his crush for someone else and killing all of his rivals in love didn't get him to anywhere. The tipping point was watching Barry to share the advice he gave to Thawne with Wally, a moment Thawne cherished until that point.

** Reverse-Flash vs. Kid Flash (Wally II) in #24 is ''horrendously'' one-sided, with Wally only surviving so he could give Flash a message on Iris' whereabouts. Once the Flash catches up to him the following issue that fight doesn't go any better for Barry.

* TheDreaded: Due to his near-murder of Batman and seeming inability to stay dead, Barry has a waking nightmare of Thawne killing Iris, Wally and everyone else at his birthday party in #23 and being powerless to stop it.

* FauxAffablyEvil: Very much NOT [[ObviouslyEvil his usual demeanour]], but in "Running Scared" he comes across as this, treating Iris as an old acquaintance and bemoaning how they, and Wally, are all victims of Barry's deceit. Given that he's [[CurbStompBattle beating Wally halfway to death]] at the same time, it comes across exactly how you'd expect.

** He gives a NoHoldsBarredBeatDown to Wally II, continuously breaking his kneecaps right before they start healing while [[PretenderDiss mocking his situation compared to other Kid Flashes]].

** Later, in the ''Rebirth'' series, the post-''Crisis'' Thawne outright dismisses Daniel, stating there is only one Reverse-Flash when Iris and Wally bring him up.
** He sneeringly dismisses Wally II as "a '''fake''' Kid Flash" and "not even the '''real''' Wally West" when the two do battle in #24.

** Gives Kid Flash (Wally West II) -- who cannot be any more than 13 or 14 -- an [[CurbStompBattle utterly brutal beating]] in the ''Rebirth'' comics, including breaking his leg twice in the space of about a minute.