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* HandGagging: This is how he silences the other Sides. It's seen directly used on Logan in "Can Lying Be Good?" and is implied to have been used on Roman in Part 2 of "Accepting Anxiety" and Virgil in Part 1 of "Moving On".

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* HandGagging: This is how he silences the other Sides. It's seen directly used on Logan in Until "Can Lying Be Good?" and is implied he had the power to have been used on Roman in Part 2 of "Accepting Anxiety" and Virgil in Part 1 of "Moving On".make the other Sides do this to themselves if they were about to say something Thomas didn't want to hear.



* HisNameIs: Has the power to force the other Sides to silence themselves if they say something Thomas doesn't want to hear.



* KnightOfCerebus: Too early to really say, but the original sides refer to Deceit and the other currently unseen sides as "the dark sides", heavily implying this trope.
* LanguageOfTruth: Inverted, believe it or not; everything he says is on some level an attempt to deceive, or to make Thomas embrace dishonesty. He's also able to mute any of the other Sides who tries to say something that Thomas doesn't want to hear, lie or not, which also includes his own reveal. It takes Thomas' permission before they can speak on the matter. Even though he likes to speak in lies, he can tell the truth whenever he wants, which only makes him more dangerous as the easiest lies to buy are the ones that mix truth and falsehood, which makes more difficult to identify which is which.

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* KnightOfCerebus: Too early to really say, but the original sides refer to Deceit and the other currently unseen sides as "the dark sides", heavily implying He fills this trope.
role as the first Dark Side to be explicitly introduced as such.
* LanguageOfTruth: Inverted, believe it or not; everything he says is on some level an attempt to deceive, deceive or to make Thomas embrace dishonesty. He's also able to mute any of the other Sides who tries to say something that Thomas doesn't want to hear, lie or not, which also includes his own reveal. It takes Thomas' permission before they can speak on the matter. Even though he likes to speak in lies, he can tell the truth whenever he wants, which only makes him more dangerous as the easiest lies to buy are the ones that mix truth and falsehood, which makes more difficult to identify which is which.



* PoisonousFriend: Unlike Virgil, Deceit takes a great deal of joy in his work, and given how he deliberately put Thomas into a panic by [[EvilAllAlong claiming to be Patton all along]] it's clear he's not too worried about Thomas' well being. However, as one of Thomas' Sides he does have a place and purpose, and he did try to present a solution to Thomas' problem - it just wasn't a wholesome one.

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* PoisonousFriend: Unlike Virgil, Deceit takes a great deal of joy in his work, and given how he deliberately put Thomas into a panic by [[EvilAllAlong claiming to be Patton all along]] it's clear he's not too worried about Thomas' well being. However, as one of Thomas' Sides Sides, he does have a place and purpose, and he did try to present a solution to Thomas' problem - it just wasn't a wholesome one.



* QuoteMining: Fitting with his deceptive nature, he's more than willing to pick and choose what parts of someone's philosophy to use for his argument, while ignoring the parts that don't help his case. He invokes Max Stirner's theory of egotism as a reason for Thomas to put his own self-interest first, citing Stirner's belief that no one was more important than anybody else, and if everyone accepted that, everyone could truly be treated as equals. The other Sides immediately point out that this argument falls on its face when you remember that Stirner was also ''extremely'' racist.

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* QuoteMining: Fitting with his deceptive nature, he's more than willing to pick and choose what parts of someone's philosophy to use for his argument, argument while ignoring the parts that don't help his case. He invokes Max Stirner's theory of egotism as a reason for Thomas to put his own self-interest first, citing Stirner's belief that no one was more important than anybody else, and if everyone accepted that, everyone could truly be treated as equals. The other Sides immediately point out that this argument falls on its face when you remember that Stirner was also ''extremely'' racist.



* {{Sssssnaketalk}}: When Deceit is specially angry he can start hissing like the snake he is.

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* {{Sssssnaketalk}}: When Deceit is specially especially angry he can start hissing like the snake he is.



* WellIntentionedExtremist: Hinted at in "Selfishness v. Selflessness", where he states that what he wants is to keep Thomas from being taken advantaged of or being destroyed in a world where laws and guidelines must be strictly followed.

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* WellIntentionedExtremist: Hinted at in "Selfishness v. Selflessness", where he states that what he wants is to keep Thomas from being taken advantaged advantage of or being destroyed in a world where laws and guidelines must be strictly followed.



** His methods get more extreme when he decides to point the Duke in Thomas’ direction, given that the Duke governs and directs all of Thomas’ uncomfortable, intrusive thoughts. The fact that the Duke appears when Thomas is extremely tired seems rather deliberate when put into this context, too.

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** His methods get more extreme when he decides to point the Duke in Thomas’ direction, given that the Duke governs and directs all of Thomas’ uncomfortable, intrusive thoughts. The fact that the Duke appears when Thomas is extremely tired seems rather deliberate when put putting into this context, too.



* CainAndAbel: He's introduced after he takes a mace to the back of Roman's head, incapacitating him for the rest of the episode. Soon after, he's described as being like Roman's twin since he's the other, less favored facet of Thomas' imagination. This trope is even [[LampshadeHanging Lampshaded by Remus himself]]:
-->'''Remus''': You made me this way, Thomas! I was the unloved brother from the Genesis! Roman and I are Cain and Abel!
* CardCarryingVillain: While Deceit is most certainly a manipulative and poisonous Side his motives for lying are out of self-preservation and rooted in a desire to protect Thomas that has been taken too far. The Duke by contrast has so far shown no redeeming qualities and seems to delight in freaking out Thomas and being as chaotic as possible.

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* CainAndAbel: He's introduced after he takes a mace to the back of Roman's head, incapacitating him for the rest of the episode. Soon after, he's described as being like Roman's twin since he's the other, less favored facet of Thomas' imagination. This trope is even [[LampshadeHanging Lampshaded Lampshaded]] and name-dropped by Remus himself]]:
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-->'''Remus''': You made me this way, Thomas! Thomas. I was the unloved brother from the Genesis! Roman and I are Cain and Abel!
* CardCarryingVillain: While Deceit is most certainly a manipulative and poisonous Side Side, his motives for lying are out of rooted in self-preservation and rooted in a desire to protect Thomas that has been taken too far. The Duke Duke, by contrast contrast, has so far shown no redeeming qualities and seems to delight in freaking out Thomas and being as chaotic as possible.



* EvilBrit: He speaks with a vaguely British accent

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* EvilBrit: He speaks with a vaguely British accentaccent.



* TheNicknamer: Shares this trait with his twin brother Roman. They even use the same nickname for the same person sometimes, which shows that, while Remus is a polar oposite of his brother Roman, there are some traits where they are almost identical, which reminds that they're still brothers after all.
-->'''Logan''': The truth is, Remus, you don't get to me in the slightest. Object impermanence renders you... pretty unintimidating. ''[Remus reels as if an invisible fist had punched him in the face]'' What's so frightening about something that has no real world impact?\\

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* TheNicknamer: Shares this trait with his twin brother Roman. They even use the same nickname for the same person sometimes, which shows that, while Remus is a polar oposite opposite of his brother Roman, there are some traits where they are almost identical, which reminds that they're still brothers after all.
-->'''Logan''': The truth is, Remus, you don't get to me in the slightest. Object impermanence renders you... pretty unintimidating. ''[Remus reels as if an invisible fist had punched him in the face]'' What's so frightening about something that has no real world real-world impact?\\

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* PunchClockVillain: A few comments he makes in the early episodes foreshadow he isn't in this for the joy of it.
** In his debut video, "Taking on Anxiety with Lilly Singh":
--->'''Virgil''': Hey, it's my job, okay? A little blood pumping's good for the ol' circulatory system.\\\
'''Virgil:''' Look, I'm just trying to look out for him. Yeah, he was invited to a couple parties; if I wasn't there to convince him not to go, who knows what bad things could've happened?
** In "Alone on Valentine's Day":
--->'''Virgil:''' I've got an idea: don't. Don't even ''try.''\\
'''Patton:''' Now, Anxiety, if you don't want to participate, you can just sit this one out.\\
'''Virgil:''' That's... not exactly... how I work.
** In "My Negative Thinking":
--->'''Virgil''': ''[mocking Thomas]'' ''"[[MockSurpriseReaction Anxiety! What are you doing here!?]]"'' Yes, this is exactly what you do every time I pop up. Let's just skip that part, we get it; you don't want me here, but I'm here and this is what I ''do.''
** In "Growing Up":
--->'''Virgil''': (Living a life Thomas isn't happy with) would give me ''more'' work to do. And I do not like to work hard...
** In "Learning New Things About Ourselves":
--->'''Virgil''': [[HiddenHeartOfGold You once knew as real gloomy, this weird spooky broody dude, because I knew you'd listen to me as too scary to ignore.]] [[ZeroApprovalGambit I thought that I could take it, all the hate could just be shaken]], [[LastSecondWordSwap but when you lo... CARE for someone]], [[IJustWantToBeLoved not much hurts more than their scorn]]. I also felt bad.\\
'''Roman''': Oh, come now...\\
'''Virgil''': ''[singing]'' In a different way.\\
'''Thomas''': Different, how?\\
'''Virgil''': ''[singing]'' By bad I mean, well... ''mean'', but I did what I thought that I had to, which is bad too. I don't have to act all tough.\\
'''Thomas''': ''[singing]'' [[ThePowerOfFriendship Sometimes, love is enough...]]\\
'''Patton''': ''[singing]'' ...or what we need.

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* PunchClockVillain: A few comments he makes in He implies throughout the early episodes foreshadow first season that he isn't in this doesn't do what he does for the joy fun of it.
** In his debut video, "Taking on Anxiety with Lilly Singh":
--->'''Virgil''': Hey, it's my job, okay? A little blood pumping's good for the ol' circulatory system.\\\
'''Virgil:''' Look, I'm just trying to look out for him. Yeah, he was invited to a couple parties; if I wasn't there to convince him not to go, who knows what bad things could've happened?
** In "Alone on Valentine's Day":
--->'''Virgil:''' I've got an idea: don't. Don't even ''try.''\\
'''Patton:''' Now, Anxiety, if you don't want to participate, you can just sit this one out.\\
'''Virgil:''' That's... not exactly... how I work.
** In "My Negative Thinking":
--->'''Virgil''': ''[mocking Thomas]'' ''"[[MockSurpriseReaction Anxiety! What are you doing here!?]]"'' Yes, this is exactly what you do every time I pop up. Let's just skip that part, we get it; you don't want me here, but I'm here and this is what I ''do.''
** In "Growing Up":
--->'''Virgil''': (Living a life Thomas isn't happy with) would give me ''more'' work to do. And I do not like to work hard...
** In "Learning New Things About Ourselves":
--->'''Virgil''': [[HiddenHeartOfGold You once knew as real gloomy, this weird spooky broody dude, because I knew you'd listen to me as too scary to ignore.]] [[ZeroApprovalGambit I thought that I could take it, all the hate could just be shaken]], [[LastSecondWordSwap but when you lo... CARE for someone]], [[IJustWantToBeLoved not much hurts more than their scorn]]. I also felt bad.\\
'''Roman''': Oh, come now...\\
'''Virgil''': ''[singing]'' In a different way.\\
'''Thomas''': Different, how?\\
'''Virgil''': ''[singing]'' By bad I mean, well... ''mean'', but I did what I thought that I had to, which is bad too. I don't have to act all tough.\\
'''Thomas''': ''[singing]'' [[ThePowerOfFriendship Sometimes, love is enough...]]\\
'''Patton''': ''[singing]'' ...or what we need.
it.



* TheReveal: Subverted in "My Personality Q&A", where he refused to share his name. Then it happens again in "Making Some Changes" when Thomas asks him to say his name:
-->'''Virgil:''' Well... okay. My name... ''[shapeshifts into Talyn, smiling sarcastically]'' is Talyn!\\
'''Thomas:''' O-kay.\\
'''Logan:''' That is upsetting.\\
'''Roman:''' WELL.\\
'''Patton:''' Wait, is it Talyn?\\
'''Virgil:''' ''[Back to his normal shape]'' No! [[RealityEnsues You take turns changing me into different friends today and expect me to open up to all of you? Fat chance!]]

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* TheReveal: Subverted in "My Personality Q&A", where he refused to share his name. Then it happens again in "Making Some Changes" when Thomas asks him to say his name:
-->'''Virgil:''' Well... okay. My name... ''[shapeshifts into Talyn, smiling sarcastically]'' is Talyn!\\
'''Thomas:''' O-kay.\\
'''Logan:''' That is upsetting.\\
'''Roman:''' WELL.\\
'''Patton:''' Wait, is it Talyn?\\
'''Virgil:''' ''[Back to his normal shape]'' No! [[RealityEnsues You take turns changing me into different friends today and expect me to open up to all
name, but he refuses because of you? Fat chance!]]how the other Sides have treated him during the episode.



* SignificantWardrobeShift: All the Sides upgraded their outfits at the beginning of season 2, in "Fitting In (Hogwarts Houses!)". However, Virgil's upgrade was specially significant, as it was a visual symbol of how he left behind his bitterness from the previous season and started [[ExactlyWhatItSaysOnTheTin fitting in]] in the team. To make this clear, Virgil changed his key color from black to purple.

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* SignificantWardrobeShift: All the Sides upgraded their outfits at the beginning of season 2, in "Fitting In (Hogwarts Houses!)". However, Virgil's upgrade was specially especially significant, as it was a visual symbol of how he left behind his bitterness from the previous season and started [[ExactlyWhatItSaysOnTheTin fitting in]] in the team. To make this clear, Virgil changed his key color from black to purple.



* SociallyAwkwardHero: The more he hangs out with the others, the more it becomes clear he doesn't have a goddamn clue what he's doing. He's ''anxiety personified'', what did you expect?

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* SociallyAwkwardHero: The more he hangs out with the others, the more it becomes clear he doesn't have a goddamn clue what he's doing. He's ''anxiety personified'', what did you expect?



* [[SecondEpisodeIntroduction Third Episode Introduction]]: Episode one introduced Logan, Roman and Patton. Virgil appeared in episode three and became a regular ever since.

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* [[SecondEpisodeIntroduction Third Episode Introduction]]: Episode one introduced Logan, Roman Roman, and Patton. Virgil appeared in episode three and became a regular ever since.



* WeWillMeetAgain: In his first appearance, when Thomas gets relaxed and strong enough to expel Virgil away, before he reluctantly leaves, he says these words.
-->'''Thomas''': Byeeee!\\
'''Virgil''': Fine, but I'll be back!\\
'''Thomas''': I mean, I'm sure you will be, but I'll be ready!
* YouDoNotWantToKnow: When Roman lets it slip that other Sides exist at the end of "Accepting Anxiety", Virgil tells a confused Thomas to "table that question for another day." Though, in hindsight, Virgil may not have said this of his own volition...

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* WeWillMeetAgain: In his first appearance, when Thomas gets relaxed and strong enough to expel Virgil away, before he reluctantly leaves, he says these words.
-->'''Thomas''': Byeeee!\\
'''Virgil''': Fine, but I'll be back!\\
'''Thomas''': I mean, I'm sure you will be, but I'll be ready!
* YouDoNotWantToKnow: When Roman lets it slip that other Sides exist at the end of "Accepting Anxiety", Virgil tells a confused Thomas to "table that question for another day." Though, in hindsight, Virgil may not have said this of his own volition..."



The Dark Sides, or "The Others", represent all the repressed aspects of Thomas, the ones he didn't want to recognize so badly that went hidden even from him. It is unknown right now how many there are or what each of them represents. For the time being, three of them are known: Virgil, Deceit and Remus.

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The Dark Sides, or "The Others", represent all the repressed aspects of Thomas, the ones he didn't want to recognize so badly that went hidden even from him. It is unknown right now how many there are or what each of them represents. For the time being, three of them are known: Virgil, Deceit Deceit, and Remus.



** Remus: Octopuses. There's an octopus on his belt buckle and the title card for his introductory episode features octopus tentacles. Octopuses are slimy, can infiltrate almost any space, and once have hold of something, it's nearly impossible to make them let go. Not to mention all the other [[NaughtyTentacles disturbing]] [[CombatTentacles implications]] of their tentacles.

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** Remus: Octopuses.Octopi. There's an octopus on his belt buckle and the title card for his introductory episode features octopus tentacles. Octopuses Octopi are slimy, can infiltrate almost any space, and once have hold of something, it's nearly impossible to make them let go. Not to mention all the other [[NaughtyTentacles disturbing]] [[CombatTentacles implications]] of their tentacles.



'''Thomas''': ''[sad voice]'' [[ShadowArchetype That's... not the answer that I wanted, in full honesty...]] \\

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'''Thomas''': ''[sad voice]'' [[ShadowArchetype That's... not the answer that I wanted, in full honesty...]] \\



'''Thomas''': ''[ironically]'' Nice and foreboding, thank you.

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'''Thomas''': ''[ironically]'' ''(sarcastically)'' Nice and foreboding, thank you.






* BadSamaritan: While impersonating Patton, he shows himself eager to help Thomas with his issue with Joan, pretending that it's all to help him and to avoid breaking Joan's heart with the truth. In reality, he was only trying to lure Thomas into lying to his best friend, just for the pleasure of seeing Thomas lying, not caring at all about the ulter consequences this could have had on Thomas' well-being or Thomas and Joan's friendship.

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* BadSamaritan: While impersonating Patton, he shows himself eager to help Thomas with his issue with Joan, pretending that it's all to help him and to avoid breaking Joan's heart with the truth. In reality, he was only trying to lure Thomas into lying to his best friend, just for the pleasure of seeing Thomas lying, not caring at all about the ulter consequences this could have had on Thomas' well-being or Thomas and Joan's friendship.



-->'''Deceit:''' ''[to Virgil]'' I adore the more intense eye shadow. It ''totally'' doesn't make you look like a raccoon.\\
'''Virgil:''' [[DeadpanSnarker Nice gloves. Did you just finish washing some dishes?]]\\

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-->'''Deceit:''' ''[to Virgil]'' I adore the more intense eye shadow. It ''totally'' doesn't make you look like a raccoon.\\
'''Virgil:'''
-->'''Virgil:''' [[DeadpanSnarker Nice gloves. Did you just finish washing some dishes?]]\\



* CampGay zigzagged with EvilSoundsDeep. During the court scene in "Selfishness v. Selflessness", many times Deceit exhibits traits from the first trope, with a histrionic, over the top effeminacy, while other times he acts like the complete opposite: smooth, cold, and with a deep, suave voice.

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* CampGay CampGay: zigzagged with EvilSoundsDeep. During the court scene in "Selfishness v. Selflessness", many times Deceit exhibits traits from the first trope, with a histrionic, over the top effeminacy, while other times he acts like the complete opposite: smooth, cold, and with a deep, suave voice.



* DarkIsNotEvil: Well, not ''totally'' evil. Lying in itself is wrong for the majority of the time, meaning that listening to Deceit isn't wholesome. However, he ultimately does act as a means of self-preservation.

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* DarkIsNotEvil: Well, not ''totally'' evil. Lying in itself is wrong for the majority of the time, meaning that situations is against Thomas' moral code, so listening to Deceit isn't wholesome.ideal. However, he ultimately does act as a means of self-preservation.



* EvilIsNotWellLit: Everytime he shows up in the apartment and shows his true form, light gets significantly lower around him except for a single spotlight iluminating him. When the real owner of the spot rises up next to him, light returns.

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* EvilIsNotWellLit: Everytime Every time he shows up in the apartment and shows his true form, the light around him gets significantly lower around him dimmer except for a single spotlight iluminating illuminating him. When the real owner of the spot rises up next to him, light returns.



* TheFriendNobodyLikes: Even moreso than Virgil, as even Patton, who has been nice with everyone else, doesn't like him. Roman seems to have a stronger connection with him for some reason, as he takes Deceit's false compliments at face value and sides with him in some of the points Deceit makes, but still Roman doesn't like Deceit.
** There's evidence to suggest that Deceit isn't fond of being this. He's openly frustrated when Thomas refuses to lie to save face with Joan when he notices Deceit is nearby, and when Thomas openly tells Deceit to leave a video he give a double FlippingTheBird on his way out.

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* TheFriendNobodyLikes: Even moreso more so than Virgil, as even Patton, who has been nice with everyone else, doesn't like him. Roman seems to have a stronger connection with him for some reason, as he takes Deceit's false compliments at face value and sides with him in some of the points Deceit makes, but still Roman doesn't like Deceit.
** There's evidence to suggest that Deceit isn't fond of being this. He's openly frustrated when Thomas refuses to lie to save face with Joan when he notices Deceit is nearby, and when Thomas openly tells Deceit to leave a video he give gives a double FlippingTheBird on his way out.

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* CrypticConversation: He likes to leave conversation always in vague terms, something that infuriates Thomas.

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* CrypticConversation: He likes to leave conversation He's not always in vague terms, something that infuriates Thomas.immediately clear about what's bothering him.



-->'''Virgil''': What are you doing here?\\
'''Deceit''': Mmm? A bunch of talk about Halloween? A season for dressing up and pretending to be something or someone else?\\
''[Virgil shows a face of slight concern upon hearing that and rolls his eyes.]''\\
'''Deceit''': ''[sarcastic]'' You're right, a master of deception such as myself has no place in that kind of discussion.\\
'''Virgil''': Okay, me being able to elicit fear doesn't take away from the fact that I've grown, so don't even try me with that, [[ComicBook/TwoFace Harvey Dense]].\\
'''Deceit''': Clever retort, and convincing statement. [...] Just be sure to keep up that personal growth, Virgil. Who knows? Maybe soon, you could be rid of us all...[[note]]As Deceit usually talks in lies, this last sentence translates as something like "Stop trying to keep up that personal growth, Virgil. You know that you'll never get rid of us all."[[/note]]\\\
'''Virgil''': Guys, he's a liar. You literally know him as Deceit!\\
'''Deceit''': Glass houses, Virgil... You yourself said that you are not a beacon of truth.\\
'''Virgil''': Yeah, because I'm wrong a lot!\\
'''Deceit''': Oh, so you've never been reluctant to share anything with the group, then?\\
'''Virgil''': ''[unsettled low voice]'' Don't...\\
'''Deceit''': Why? I just meant your name...\\
'''Virgil''': ''[containing angst, loudly punching the table]'' DON'T!\\
'''Deceit''': Maybe that's why it's so easy for you to recognize me for what I am. Like I said before, it takes a liar to know a liar.\\\

** In, "Dealing with Intrusive Thoughts", the secret is finally revealed: Virgil in the past used to be a Dark Side.
-->'''Virgil''': I'm a little... disappointed in myself. I thought that I would be able to protect you from them.\\
'''Thomas''': The Dark Sides?\\
'''Virgil''': The Others. I thought... I thought I knew how to handle them.\\
'''Thomas''': I think we're all trying to figure them out for now. It'll take some time to figure everything out.\\
'''Virgil''': Yeah, but I should know better.\\
'''Thomas''': Isn't that kind of unfair? Why should you be upheld to a different standard than the other Sides?\\
'''Virgil''': ''[beat]'' [[TheReveal Because I was one of them.]]\\
''[Thomas looks at Virgil with a face of shock [[DisappointedInYou and a dash of disappointment]], [[StunnedSilence not saying a word]]. Virgil looks back at him and shrugs [[StepfordSmiler sporting half a little smile]] while his eyes start getting red and watering down, [[RunningAwayToCry then he sinks down]].]''

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-->'''Virgil''': What are you doing here?\\
'''Deceit''': Mmm? A bunch of talk about Halloween? A season for dressing up and pretending to be something or someone else?\\
''[Virgil shows a face of slight concern upon hearing that and rolls his eyes.]''\\
'''Deceit''': ''[sarcastic]'' You're right, a master of deception such as myself has no place in that kind of discussion.\\
'''Virgil''': Okay, me being able to elicit fear doesn't take away from the fact that I've grown, so don't even try me with that, [[ComicBook/TwoFace Harvey Dense]].\\
'''Deceit''': Clever retort, and convincing statement. [...] Just be sure to keep up that personal growth, Virgil. Who knows? Maybe soon, you could be rid of us all...[[note]]As Deceit usually talks in lies, this last sentence translates as something like "Stop trying to keep up that personal growth, Virgil. You know that you'll never get rid of us all."[[/note]]\\\
'''Virgil''': Guys, he's a liar. You literally know him as Deceit!\\
'''Deceit''': Glass houses, Virgil... You yourself said that you are not a beacon of truth.\\
'''Virgil''': Yeah, because I'm wrong a lot!\\
'''Deceit''': Oh, so you've never been reluctant to share anything with the group, then?\\
'''Virgil''': ''[unsettled low voice]'' Don't...\\
'''Deceit''': Why? I just meant your name...\\
'''Virgil''': ''[containing angst, loudly punching the table]'' DON'T!\\
'''Deceit''': Maybe that's why it's so easy for you to recognize me for what I am. Like I said before, it takes a liar to know a liar.\\\

** In, "Dealing with Intrusive Thoughts", the secret is He finally revealed: Virgil in the past confesses, to Thomas alone, that he used to be a Dark Side.
-->'''Virgil''': I'm a little... disappointed
Side in myself. I thought that I would be able to protect you from them.\\
'''Thomas''': The Dark Sides?\\
'''Virgil''': The Others. I thought... I thought I knew how to handle them.\\
'''Thomas''': I think we're all trying to figure them out
"Dealing With Intrusive Thoughts". Notably, he doesn't stick around long enough for now. It'll take some time Thomas to figure everything out.\\
'''Virgil''': Yeah, but I should know better.\\
'''Thomas''': Isn't that kind of unfair? Why should you be upheld to a different standard
do anything more than the other Sides?\\
'''Virgil''': ''[beat]'' [[TheReveal Because I was one of them.]]\\
''[Thomas looks at Virgil with a face of shock [[DisappointedInYou
look shocked and a dash of disappointment]], [[StunnedSilence not saying a word]]. Virgil looks back at him and shrugs [[StepfordSmiler sporting half a little smile]] while his eyes start getting red and watering down, [[RunningAwayToCry then he sinks down]].]''disappointed.



* DefrostingIceKing: In the middle of season 1, he starts trying much harder to be nice to his fellow Sides and his mean demeanor slowly falls away, to be replaced by a pessimistic attitude. Patton is the one who most easily breaks him of his coldness and gets him to smile, whether of joy of seeing him or simply of fun of his jokes.

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* DefrostingIceKing: In the middle of season 1, he starts trying much harder to be nice to his fellow Sides and his mean demeanor slowly falls away, to be replaced by a pessimistic attitude. Patton is the one who most easily breaks him of his coldness and gets him to smile, whether of from the joy of seeing him or simply of fun of from his jokes.



* [[EmotionlessGirl Emotionless Guy]]: He rarely smiles, has a completely toneless voice and acts like he's made out of stone from time to time. After "Accepting Anxiety", this has died down (and his clothing got purple and black instead of all black to show this development).
* EmotionSuppression: Virgil has shown signs that he's hiding what he's feeling inside, specifically that he truly loves the others, even though sometimes it almost slips out of his tongue.
-->'''Virgil''': But when you lo... CARE for someone...

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* [[EmotionlessGirl Emotionless Guy]]: He rarely smiles, has a completely toneless voice and acts like he's made out of stone from time to time. After "Accepting Anxiety", this has died down (and his clothing got purple and black instead of all black to show this development).
* EmotionSuppression: Virgil has shown signs that he's hiding what he's feeling inside, specifically that he truly loves the others, even though sometimes it almost slips out of his tongue.
-->'''Virgil''': But when you lo... CARE for someone...
and he never lets himself be completely emotionally vulnerable.



* FourElementEnsemble: [[MakingASplash Water]].

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* FourElementEnsemble: [[MakingASplash Water]].Water.



-->'''Virgil:''' Let's just face facts; you're better off without me. [...] I actually think you were right to not want me around. I've always aimed to protect you, but lately...it feels like I've been keeping you from doing anything. [...] All this reflecting and working on your issues with us has gotten me to think that... I overdo it.
* JerkWithAHeartOfGold: The "Accepting Anxiety" videos solidify this. He's sarcastic, grouchy, rude, and cynical, but he ''does'' care about Thomas, and is genuinely upset when he thinks he's made Thomas too anxious to do ''anything''. He also genuinely likes Patton.
* KindnessButton: Virgil remains reluctant to return to his job as Thomas' anxiety, no matter how hard Thomas, Logan and Patton try to convince him, until Roman gives him a speech about how he's so important to the team and how he thinks Virgil makes them all better. This speech [[TearfulSmile fills Virgil's eyes with tears and makes him sport a tender grateful smile to Roman.]]

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-->'''Virgil:''' Let's just face facts; you're better off without me. [...] I actually think you were right to not want me around. I've always aimed to protect you, but lately...it feels like I've been keeping you from doing anything. [...] All this reflecting and working on your issues with us has gotten me to think that... I overdo it.
* JerkWithAHeartOfGold: The "Accepting Anxiety" videos solidify two-parter solidifies this. He's sarcastic, grouchy, rude, and cynical, but he ''does'' care about Thomas, and is genuinely truly upset when he thinks he's made Thomas too anxious to do ''anything''. He also genuinely likes Patton.
* KindnessButton: Virgil remains reluctant to return to his job as Thomas' anxiety, no matter how hard Thomas, Logan Logan, and Patton try to convince him, him until Roman gives him a speech about how he's so important to the team and how he thinks Virgil makes them all better. This speech [[TearfulSmile fills Virgil's eyes with tears and makes him sport a tender grateful smile to Roman.]]



* NightmareRetardant: InUniverse. Virgil tries as hard as he can to scare the others, first dressing as a vampire, covering his fangs with fake blood and rising a knife, then roaring like a lion. He completely fails in both tries.

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* NightmareRetardant: InUniverse. Virgil tries as hard as he can to scare the others, first dressing as a vampire, covering his fangs with fake blood and rising a knife, then roaring like a lion. He completely fails in on both tries.



-->'''Virgil''': ''[to Thomas]'' I've always aimed to protect you! [...] Putting on a dark persona is the best way to get anyone's guard up! But all this reflecting and working on your issues with us has gotten me to think that... I overdo it.

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-->'''Virgil''': ''[to Thomas]'' I've always aimed to protect you! [...] Putting on a dark persona is the best way to get anyone's guard up! But all this reflecting and working on your issues with us has gotten me to think that... that...I overdo it.



* PerpetualFrowner: In season one, he rarely smiled. This was averted by season two when seeing him genuinely smile became a much more common occurrence.
* PetTheDog: In season 1, though he's against Thomas, he'll ocassionally give him a break, or even be sort of nice to the other sides. Not ''often'', but still. Averted in season 2, when the situation will become the opposite, being chill with Thomas as much as he can except when Thomas truly needs a small dose of anxiety for some reason.

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* PerpetualFrowner: In season one, he He rarely smiled. This was averted by season two when seeing him genuinely smile became smiles, though it's a much little more common occurrence.
in season two.
* PetTheDog: In season 1, though he's against Thomas, he'll ocassionally occasionally give him a break, or even be sort of nice to the other sides. Not ''often'', but still. Averted in season 2, when the situation will become the opposite, being chill with Thomas as much as he can except when Thomas truly needs a small dose of anxiety for some reason.

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'''Virgil''': He had you convinced you are an honest person.\\

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'''Virgil''': He had you convinced you are you're an honest person.\\



-->'''Roman''': You should see it! Patton holds onto everything in the past that you've cherished! I mean, it is Peak Proud Papá!\\
'''Thomas''': Perfect!\\
'''Virgil''': Pardon?\\
'''Patton''': Patton! ''[giggles]'' I'm just... thought I would hop aboard at the alliteration station!



* AttentionDeficitOohShiny: Tells Thomas something deep and inspirational, then goes right back to being the Patton character by mentioning the LimitedWardrobe between him and Logan.
-->'''Patton:''' What positive impacts do you inevitably hope to bring to this world?\\
'''Thomas:''' Wow, that was a deep, and poignant, ques...\\
'''Patton:''' ''[to Logan]'' HEY! We have the same glasses!!\\
{{beat}}\\
'''Logan:''' Yup.

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* AttentionDeficitOohShiny: Tells Thomas something deep and inspirational, then goes right back to being Often, but most notably in the Patton character by mentioning first episode of the LimitedWardrobe between him and Logan.
-->'''Patton:''' What positive impacts do you inevitably hope to bring to this world?\\
'''Thomas:''' Wow, that was a deep, and poignant, ques...\\
'''Patton:''' ''[to Logan]'' HEY! We have the same glasses!!\\
{{beat}}\\
'''Logan:''' Yup.
series.



-->'''Patton''': What about Anxiety? He always seems to get you down!



-->'''Virgil:''' I talk bad about myself.\\
'''Patton:''' I will physically fight you!



* FourElementEnsemble: [[BlowYouAway Air]].

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* FourElementEnsemble: [[BlowYouAway Air]].Air.



** Was finally able to wear it during "Losing My Motivation".

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** Was He was finally able to wear it during "Losing My Motivation".



-->'''Patton''': ''[to Virgil]'' I love my dark strange son.\\
'''Patton''': ''[to Virgil]'' If you keep talking bad about yourself, I'm going to physically fight you! Nobody talks about my child like that! ''[then he makes the EyeAmWatchingYou gesture to a shocked Virgil]''

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-->'''Patton''': ''[to Virgil]'' I love my dark strange son.\\
'''Patton''': ''[to Virgil]'' If you keep talking bad about yourself, I'm going to physically fight you! Nobody talks about my child like that! ''[then he makes the EyeAmWatchingYou gesture to a shocked Virgil]''



* ObfuscatingStupidity: Usually he acts as if he was less inteligent that the others, but he has shown signs that he's not that stupid and that he can be smart when he wants to.



* PingPongNaivete: Patton gives signs of this along the series. Usually he acts like a silly, childlike, goofy person, but sometimes he shows signs of a great maturity that usually shocks the others, to go back later to his goofyness, and so on.

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* PingPongNaivete: Patton gives signs of this along throughout the series. Usually Usually, he acts like a silly, childlike, goofy person, but sometimes he shows signs of a great maturity that usually shocks the others, to go back later to his goofyness, goofiness, and so on.



Creativity, whose real name is Prince Roman but is also known as "Princey" or simply Roman, is the embodiment of Thomas' fanciful side: his hopes, dreams and ideals, as well as his imagination and creativity. He is also Thomas' ego.

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Creativity, whose real name is Prince Roman but is also known as "Princey" or simply Roman, is the embodiment of Thomas' fanciful side: his hopes, dreams dreams, and ideals, as well as his imagination and creativity. He is also Thomas' ego.



-->'''Princey''': ''[Sighs]'' I can't help but wonder if we, as a society, are past the days of celebrating dashing princes and acts of bravery... that are edging on stupidity.



* {{Fanboy}}: Thomas stated he was on a Disney show. You can most likely guess what happens next.
-->'''Roman:''' DISNEY, THOMAS!\\
'''Thomas:''' I know.\\
'''Roman:''' ''[squeeing]'' IMEAN,IT'SJUSTSOAMAZING!\\
'''Thomas:''' Are you gonna be okay?\\
'''Roman:''' ''[incoherent [[{{Squee}} Squeeing]]]''\\
'''Thomas:''' Okay, I'm gonna move on, while you work this out.\\
'''Roman:''' ''[squeeing]'' OKAY!

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* {{Fanboy}}: Thomas stated he was on a Disney show. You can most likely guess what happens next.
-->'''Roman:''' DISNEY, THOMAS!\\
'''Thomas:''' I know.\\
'''Roman:''' ''[squeeing]'' IMEAN,IT'SJUSTSOAMAZING!\\
'''Thomas:''' Are you gonna be okay?\\
'''Roman:''' ''[incoherent [[{{Squee}} Squeeing]]]''\\
'''Thomas:''' Okay, I'm gonna move on, while you work this out.\\
'''Roman:''' ''[squeeing]'' OKAY!
Of Disney.



** Subverted in "Accepting Anxiety: Part 2" when the episode starts as a parody of ''{{Series/Lost}}'' with Thomas saying "Previously on Sanders Sides..." but then he realizes he didn't prepare anything, so Roman does the review himself [[MotorMouth saying in a matter of seconds, speaking ultra-fast,]] everything that had happened in the previous episode.
* FourElementEnsemble: [[PlayingWithFire Fire]].

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** Subverted in "Accepting Anxiety: Part 2" when the episode starts as a parody of ''{{Series/Lost}}'' with Thomas saying "Previously on Sanders Sides..." but then he realizes he didn't prepare anything, so Roman does the review summary himself [[MotorMouth saying in a matter of seconds, speaking ultra-fast,]] everything that had happened in the previous episode.
* FourElementEnsemble: [[PlayingWithFire Fire]].Fire.



'''Roman''': ''[happily]'' The one and ''lonely''! What? [[LampshadeHanging Freudian Slip]]! I mean... ''[shows a momentary face of sadness and regret]''

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'''Roman''': ''[happily]'' The one and ''lonely''! What? [[LampshadeHanging Freudian Slip]]! I mean... ''[shows a momentary face of sadness and regret]''What?



-->'''Roman''': ''[sad voice]'' It's so hard to create anything I can be proud of, when it's critiqued so harshly... ''[looking at Logan]'' ...by you.\\
'''Logan''': What?\\
'''Roman''': ''[slightly frustrated]'' Nothing ever seems to be good enough, professional enough... ''[sad and serious voice]'' ...serious enough for you.\\
'''Logan''': ''[slightly shocked]'' I... didn't realize...



-->'''Patton''': Whoa, when did you apply [[TheCorruption eyeshadow?]]\\
'''Roman''': I didn't! But does it look okay? Because a prince has got to slay.



-->'''Roman''': Time out for thee and time out for thee. Focus on issues or focus on me.\\\
'''Patton''': Look, the main point I wanted to get to is that you should try to make them feel special. Don't talk about yourself so much and make sure they feel heard.\\

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-->'''Roman''': Time out for thee and time out for thee. Focus on issues or focus on me.\\\
'''Patton''':
-->'''Patton''': Look, the main point I wanted to get to is that you should try to make them feel special. Don't talk about yourself so much and make sure they feel heard.\\



* TheKnightsWhoSaySquee: During "I'm In a Disney Show!", he frequently interrupts the conversation just to geek out.



'''Deceit''': ''[sarcastic]'' ''Love'' the new outfit, Roman...\\
'''Roman''': ''[not getting the irony, flattered]'' Thank you!\\

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'''Deceit''': ''[sarcastic]'' ''(sarcastic)'' ''Love'' the new outfit, Roman...\\
'''Roman''': ''[not ''(not getting the irony, flattered]'' flattered)'' Thank you!\\



* MotorMouth: His recap of the first part of "Accepting Anxiety". Also the way he asks viewers to buy Logan's Berry in "Crofter's: The Musical" after Thomas tells him if they sell well Roman might get his own flavor too.

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* MotorMouth: His recap of the first part of "Accepting Anxiety". Also Also, the way he asks viewers to buy Logan's Berry in "Crofter's: The Musical" after Thomas tells him if they sell well Roman might get his own flavor too.



* TheNicknamer: Roman's ''really'' fond of referring to the others with nicknames:
-->'''Roman''': ''[to Logan]'' Don't get ahead of us, "Microsoft Nerd".\\
'''Roman''': ''[to Virgil and Thomas]'' Well, we'll better bring "Count Woe-laf" here. Any input is better than what "Mr. T" is contributing.\\
'''Roman''': ''[to Patton]'' You're the softest little puff ball we've got, "Padre".\\
'''Roman''': ''[to Deceit]'' Get out of here, "Jack the Fibber"!

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* TheNicknamer: Roman's ''really'' fond of referring to the others with nicknames:
-->'''Roman''': ''[to Logan]'' Don't get ahead of us, "Microsoft Nerd".\\
'''Roman''': ''[to Virgil and Thomas]'' Well, we'll better bring "Count Woe-laf" here. Any input is better than what "Mr. T" is contributing.\\
'''Roman''': ''[to Patton]'' You're the softest little puff ball we've got, "Padre".\\
'''Roman''': ''[to Deceit]'' Get out of here, "Jack the Fibber"!
nicknames, managing to come up with new ones in almost every episode.



-->'''Roman''': You've kept me in the backseat [[MediumAwareness for the last two "Sanders Sides" videos]] and that is criminal!



-->'''Roman''': I mean, I almost lost character here, because... ''[shouting]'' THE LIGHTS WERE TOO BRIGHT!\\
'''Virgil''': I can only be in so many places at once, dude!\\\
'''Roman''': I wasn't feeling in character anyway, because I don't have my [[SuddenlyShouting SIPPY CUP!]]\\
'''Virgil''': ''[to Logan, worried]'' I don't know where it is!\\
'''Roman''': WHERE IS MY SIPPY CUP, TECH!?\\
'''Virgil''': It was... it was on he prop table! Did you move it?\\
'''Roman''': NO, I DID NOT MOVE IT, I HAVE BEEN ''ACTING'' THIS WHOLE TIME! WHEN WOULD I HAVE HAD TIME TO MOVE IT!?\\
'''Logan''': Virge, hurry!\\
'''Virgil''': ''[running out]'' Stall for time!\\
'''Patton''': What is happening back there?\\
'''Virgil''': ''[back with the sippy cup in his hand]'' It was in the green-room! What was it doing in there?\\
'''Roman''': ''[suddenly smiling]'' Oh, that's right! I ''did'' move it. ''[unconcerned]'' I'm so silly, I'm so silly...\\
''[Virgil looks at Roman with a murderous face and groans while giving him the cup]''



-->'''Virgil''': Why are you only quoting Mary Po...\\

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-->'''Virgil''': Why are you only quoting Mary Po...\\Po--\\



* TooMuchInformation: ''"-…and you are nothing compared to the others,"'' followed by his hand plated onto his mouth - which, by the way, wasn't Roman shutting himself up...
-->'''Thomas:''' Others? What do you mean, others? What others?

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* TooMuchInformation: ''"-…and ''"…and you are nothing compared to the others,"'' followed by his hand plated onto his mouth - which, by the way, wasn't Roman shutting himself up...
-->'''Thomas:''' Others? What do you mean, others? What others?
others."''



[[caption-width-right:350:"I'm not always the bad guy..."]]
-->''One option, and I'm just throwing this out there, is to hide under the covers until the sun goes away.''

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[[caption-width-right:350:"I'm [[caption-width-right:350:"What are you doing different? What are you doing ''wrong?'' What are you ''forgetting to do?!''"]]
-->''I'm
not always the bad guy..."]]
-->''One option, and I'm just throwing this out there, is to hide under the covers until the sun goes away.
''



* AGlassOfChianti: PlayedForLaughs in one of Thomas Sanders' Snapchat stories, later re-released on his Twitter account, where Virgil sits in a bathtub fully clothed with a cup of Gatorade that looks suspiciously like wine.[[note]]This is the only non [=YouTube=] instance that is considered canonical for Sanders Sides, as the title is "My Personalities All Had Little Adventures Yesterday"[[/note]]

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* AGlassOfChianti: PlayedForLaughs in one of Thomas Sanders' Snapchat stories, later re-released on his Twitter account, where Virgil sits in a bathtub fully clothed with a cup of Gatorade that looks suspiciously like wine.[[note]]This is the only non [=YouTube=] non-[=YouTube=] instance that is considered canonical for Sanders Sides, as the title is "My Personalities All Had Little Adventures Yesterday"[[/note]]



* BreakoutCharacter: Virgil was originally created as a one-off character for a special collaboration with Lilly Singh. However, he was so well received by viewers that he ended not only as a permanent character, but also as one of the most popular of the Sanders Sides.

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* BreakoutCharacter: Virgil was originally created as a one-off character for a special collaboration with Lilly Singh. However, he was so well received by viewers that he ended not only as up a permanent character, but also as one of the most popular of the Sanders Sides.character.
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* FashionVictimVillain: Just ''look'' at him.



* TheToothHurts: He makes Logan's front teeth fall out of his nose just because the latter annoyed him.
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* AristocratsAreEvil: Wears a green and black version of Roman's PrinceCharming outfit, and has the royal title of Duke.

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* AristocratsAreEvil: Wears a green and black version of Roman's PrinceCharming outfit, and has the royal noble title of Duke.

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* TokenHuman: He is surrounded by people with powers like shapeshifting, making things appear or disappear, teleportation... and he is the only one that lacks any of these special abilities and requires the others' help in this matter. Sure, everything is in Thomas' mind, and in a way, he's the source of all of these powers, but still.
-->'''Thomas''': Dang! Look at all you guys, looking all festive for the holidays! All right. My turn. Where's my sweater? Come on, sweater time. Sweater me up!\\
''[Roman cringes and makes a weird noise]''\\
'''Patton''': ''[cringing]'' Oh, boy.\\
'''Roman''': Yeah, we can't conjure a sweater for you.\\
'''Thomas''': ''[disappointed]'' Oh...\\
'''Patton''': Well, this is awkward...\\
'''Roman''': We're imaginary... You're not...\\
'''Patton''': I feel bad now.\\
'''Thomas''': ''[Trying to mask his disappointment]'' No, it's just fine. It's fine. Let's just move on.

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* TokenHuman: He is surrounded by people with powers like shapeshifting, making things appear or disappear, teleportation... and he is the only one that lacks any of these special abilities and requires the others' help in this matter. Sure, everything is This crops up every once in a while, such as when the Sides conjure Christmas sweaters for themselves, but can't for Thomas because he's not imaginary, or when the Sides warp their bodies unnaturally to Thomas' mind, and in a way, he's the source of all of these powers, but still.
-->'''Thomas''': Dang! Look at all you guys, looking all festive for the holidays! All right. My turn. Where's my sweater? Come on, sweater time. Sweater me up!\\
''[Roman cringes and makes a weird noise]''\\
'''Patton''': ''[cringing]'' Oh, boy.\\
'''Roman''': Yeah, we can't conjure a sweater for you.\\
'''Thomas''': ''[disappointed]'' Oh...\\
'''Patton''': Well, this is awkward...\\
'''Roman''': We're imaginary... You're not...\\
'''Patton''': I feel bad now.\\
'''Thomas''': ''[Trying to mask his disappointment]'' No, it's just fine. It's fine. Let's just move on.
horrified disgust.



* TookALevelInDumbass: Zigzagged. Not counting the aloofness he has when Virgil is missing, sometimes he starts acting a little bit goofily compared with other episodes, as if being slightly less smart than before. This only happens at certain moments with comedy purposes, though. For example, he is easily the silliest character in "My Negative Thinking" and "Why Do We Get Out of Bed in the Morning?". However, there are episodes where he is The OnlySaneMan, such as "Losing My Motivation", "Accepting Anxiety: Part 2", (where every Side except Virgil is slowly succumbing to the effects of his room) and "Moving On: Part 2".
-->'''Roman''': That effort should go towards reaching some sort of peak.\\
'''Thomas''': Some sort of beak?\\
'''Roman''': What? No!\\
'''Thomas''': Oh, like climbing a tall tree all the way up to a bird's nest, birds have beaks, and from there, I will be able to take flight!\\
'''Roman''': You know what? [[SureLetsGoWithThat Sure! You took the long way around, but you got there.]] [...]\\
'''Logan''': ...and as far as "reaching your peak" is concerned...\\
'''Thomas''': Uh... it's... it's beak.\\
'''Logan''': Whatever...

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* TookALevelInDumbass: Zigzagged. Not counting the aloofness he has when Virgil is missing, sometimes he starts acting a little bit goofily compared with other episodes, episodes as if being slightly less smart than before. This only happens at certain moments with comedy purposes, though. For example, he is easily the silliest character in "My Negative Thinking" and "Why Do We Get Out of Bed in the Morning?". However, there are episodes where he is The OnlySaneMan, such as "Losing My Motivation", "Accepting Anxiety: Part 2", (where every Side except Virgil is slowly succumbing to the effects of his room) and "Moving On: Part 2". \n-->'''Roman''': That effort should go towards reaching some sort of peak.\\\n'''Thomas''': Some sort of beak?\\\n'''Roman''': What? No!\\\n'''Thomas''': Oh, like climbing a tall tree all the way up to a bird's nest, birds have beaks, and from there, I will be able to take flight!\\\n'''Roman''': You know what? [[SureLetsGoWithThat Sure! You took the long way around, but you got there.]] [...]\\\n'''Logan''': ...and as far as "reaching your peak" is concerned...\\\n'''Thomas''': Uh... it's... it's beak.\\\n'''Logan''': Whatever...



-->'''Thomas''': Why didn't I know about him (Deceit) until now?\\

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-->'''Thomas''': Why didn't I know about him (Deceit) [Deceit] until now?\\



'''Deceit''': ''[dangerously sweet voice]'' Oh, you ''are'', Thomas. You are a good person. Everybody says so.\\



'''Logan''': That's a more honest statement!

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'''Logan''': That's a more honest statement!
statement.



* BerserkButton: The thing Logan fears most is not being taken seriously. If someone makes fun of him or tries to put him as the butt of the joke, Logan will react violently against them in an explosion of wrath, even if he'll quickly regret it afterwards.
-->'''Logan''': When all of you decided on using puppets to address a serious issue, Logic was already figuratively thrown out the window.\\
'''Roman''': ''[Sighs]'' Again, you don't have to use the word "figuratively". We ''know'' that you weren't literally thrown out of a window!\\
'''Logic''': How? Have you been watching me constantly? [...] I just don't want to concern anybody by suggesting I was thrown through a window. [pulling out a vocab card] I wanted to communicate, five by five, that I'm five by five.\\
'''Thomas''': It's okay, Roman, his intentions are there. I mean, who does going above and beyond with clarity hurt?\\
'''Roman''': Going above and beyond? [Mocking laugh] More like going overboard. It's stupid.\\
''[Logan shows a face of fury. In a low angle shot, he crumples the vocab card, then shouts a war-cry and throws the paper ball aiming at Roman, hitting him in the eye.]''\\
'''Roman''': ''[Covering his eye, with a voice of pain]'' Aw! Oh, my gosh, oh, my gosh!\\
'''Patton''': ''[horrified, covering his mouth with his hands, squealing]'' Mee-mee!\\
''[Thomas looks at Logan and Roman with a horrified cringing expression]''\\
'''Roman''': ''[Mixed voice of pain and over-dramatic anger]'' You hit me in the eye! ''[Logan shows a mixed face of concern, fear and regret after realizing what he's just done]'' You hit me in the eye, you frickin' book-germ!\\
'''Virgil''': Geez, L, that was pretty rough!\\
'''Logan''': I'm sorry, I don't know what that was...

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* BerserkButton: The thing Logan fears most is not being taken seriously. If someone makes fun of him or tries to put him as the butt of the joke, Logan will react violently against them in an explosion of wrath, even if he'll quickly regret it afterwards.
-->'''Logan''': When all of you decided on using puppets to address a serious issue, Logic was already figuratively thrown out the window.\\
'''Roman''': ''[Sighs]'' Again, you don't have to use the word "figuratively". We ''know'' that you weren't literally thrown out of a window!\\
'''Logic''': How? Have you been watching me constantly? [...] I just don't want to concern anybody by suggesting I was thrown through a window. [pulling out a vocab card] I wanted to communicate, five by five, that I'm five by five.\\
'''Thomas''': It's okay, Roman, his intentions are there. I mean, who does going above and beyond with clarity hurt?\\
'''Roman''': Going above and beyond? [Mocking laugh] More like going overboard. It's stupid.\\
''[Logan shows a face of fury. In a low angle shot, he crumples the vocab card, then shouts a war-cry and throws the paper ball aiming at Roman, hitting him in the eye.]''\\
'''Roman''': ''[Covering his eye, with a voice of pain]'' Aw! Oh, my gosh, oh, my gosh!\\
'''Patton''': ''[horrified, covering his mouth with his hands, squealing]'' Mee-mee!\\
''[Thomas looks at Logan and Roman with a horrified cringing expression]''\\
'''Roman''': ''[Mixed voice of pain and over-dramatic anger]'' You hit me in the eye! ''[Logan shows a mixed face of concern, fear and regret after realizing what he's just done]'' You hit me in the eye, you frickin' book-germ!\\
'''Virgil''': Geez, L, that was pretty rough!\\
'''Logan''': I'm sorry, I don't know what that was...
afterward.



* ByTheHair: Logan doesn't usually summon the other Sides, so this is how he summons Roman in "Why Do We Get Out of Bed in the Morning?"
-->'''Roman:''' You suck at summoning, Logan! You pulled my hair!

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* ByTheHair: Roman complains that Logan doesn't usually summon the other Sides, so this is how he summons Roman in pulled his hair while summoning him during "Why Do We Get Out of Bed in the Morning?"
-->'''Roman:''' You suck at summoning, Logan! You pulled my hair!
Morning?"



* HiddenDepths: He can rap, and loves cosplaying, poetry, and onesies. He also enjoys Crofter's jam, so much so in fact that he'll gladly sing about Crofter's if given the opportunity.

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* HiddenDepths: He can rap, and loves cosplaying, poetry, and onesies. He He's also enjoys Crofter's jam, so much so in fact that he'll gladly sing about Crofter's if given the opportunity.more emotional than he lets on, but his stoic facade is hard to break.



-->'''Logan''': Preposterous.\\
'''Virgil''': Your mom is preposterous!\\
'''Logan''': I'm ignoring you. What you're doing there, Thomas...\\\
'''Roman''': Well, if my ideas are all so stupid, why don't you explain why we must do what we do, Mr. Smarty-Pants?\\
'''Logan''': Gladly. Thomas...\\
'''Roman''': Geek Squad? More like Squad-less Geek! [[LaughingMad HA-HA-HA!]] [[TookALevelInJerkass You're alone!]]\\
'''Logan''': Well, you're lashing out like a little bratty baby. I'm gonna take the figurative high road and ignore your name calling.\\
'''Roman''': But you just called me a bratty baby...\\
'''Logan''': [[IgnoringBySinging AH-DUH-DUH-DUH-DUH!]] Thomas must do...



-->'''Patton''': You're right, high five!\\
'''Logan''': We're just across the...\\
'''Patton''': Down low...\\
'''Logan''': I... uh...\\
'''Patton''': ...gan!\\
'''Logan''': Gan? Low-gan? I might scream...\\
'''Patton''': But you can't, because your volume is too low...\\

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-->'''Patton''': You're right, high five!\\
'''Logan''': We're just across the...\\
'''Patton''': Down low...\\
'''Logan''': I... uh...\\
'''Patton''': ...gan!\\
'''Logan''': Gan? Low-gan?
-->'''Logan''': [[TranquilFury I might scream...\\
scream.]]\\
'''Patton''': But you can't, because your volume is too low...\\low--\\



'''Patton''': ...gan!\\

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'''Patton''': ...gan!\\'''Patton''': --gan!\\



-->'''Thomas''': Gryffindors have also short tempers, which I think could apply to both of you.\\
'''Roman''': Oh, shut up!\\
'''Logan''': ''[overlapping]'' FALSEHOOD!!!\\
'''Virgil''': ''[covering his ear with a finger]'' Wow... I did not miss that!



* {{Nerdgasm}}: The feeling Logan recognizes he has everytime deadlines are met when doing a project.

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* {{Nerdgasm}}: The feeling Logan recognizes he has everytime every time deadlines are met when doing a project.



-->'''Logan:''' You make ONE MISTAKE and THIS is what happens!



-->'''Thomas:''' Ok! Booked.\\
'''Virgil:''' Wait, what?\\
'''Logan:''' [[SuddenlyShouting BOOK?!?!]]\\
'''Virgil:''' What the [[CurseCutShort f--]]



* SpeakingSimlish: And he doesn't even need Daydream Mode to pull this off.
* SuddenlyShouting: "''FALSEHOOD!!!''"

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* SpeakingSimlish: And he doesn't even need Daydream Mode He manages to pull this off.
* SuddenlyShouting: "''FALSEHOOD!!!''"
literally speak Simlish in "Alone On Valentine's Day" without prompting.



* TheStoic: He [[NotSoAboveItAll tries to be this.]]

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* TheStoic: He [[NotSoAboveItAll tries tries]] to be this.]]



* TooCleverByHalf: He's the smartest of them all, he knows it and doesn't miss a chance to show off.
-->'''Logan''': I don't think I'm smarter than anyone else. I ''know'' I'm smarter than anyone else!

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* TooCleverByHalf: He's the smartest of them all, person in the cast, he knows it and doesn't miss a chance to show off.
-->'''Logan''': I don't think I'm smarter than anyone else. I ''know'' I'm smarter than anyone else!
off.



* YourApprovalFillsMeWithShame:
** He gets frustrated whenever Patton giddily points out if he makes a pun or a dad joke.
** Thomas once said he was doing fine in a video, to which Logan expresses distress.
--->'''Thomas:''' And, I'm feeling pretty good this week.\\
'''Logan:''' ''Dang.''\\
''[An astonished Thomas looks at Logan]''\\
'''Logan:''' [[VerbalBackspace I mean, yay!]]

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* YourApprovalFillsMeWithShame:
**
YourApprovalFillsMeWithShame: He gets frustrated whenever Patton giddily points out if he makes a pun or a dad joke.
** Thomas once said he was doing fine in a video, to which Logan expresses distress.
--->'''Thomas:''' And, I'm feeling pretty good this week.\\
'''Logan:''' ''Dang.''\\
''[An astonished Thomas looks at Logan]''\\
'''Logan:''' [[VerbalBackspace I mean, yay!]]
joke.



* AbsurdPhobia: Patton is [[SpidersAreScary afraid of spiders]], like Thomas and Roman. However, he's also afraid of fake cartoon spiders, whether they're in Virgil's curtain or in Thomas' Spider Man costume.

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* AbsurdPhobia: Patton is [[SpidersAreScary afraid of spiders]], like Thomas and Roman. However, he's also afraid of fake cartoon spiders, whether they're in Virgil's curtain or in Thomas' Spider Man Spider-Man costume.

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-->'''Logan''': Belittlingly? How is treating their time as valuable belittling? ''[to the viewers]'' Are you feeling belittled? Comment below if you're feeling belittled.\\
'''Roman''': Don't bring them into this! How dare you? ''[to the viewers]'' Sorry, everyone, pardon Logan's rude behavior. ''[smiling, pointing at an icon that appears on the corner]'' And make sure to ring that bell.\\
'''Logan''': Oh, but you can talk to them?\\
'''Roman''': Yes, to clear out your bad behavior!\\
'''Logan''': ''My'' bad behavior? ''MY'' bad behavior!?\\
'''Roman''': Do you know how our arguments should go, Logan...?\\
''[Logan and Roman start arguing.]''\\
'''Patton''': Uhh... ''[to the viewers]'' Hey, kids! Daddy and daddy are just having a little discussion, that's all. Just focus on daddy, and everything will be fine, okay, here we go... ''[starts making gestures to the camera as if playing with a baby]''



* ComicalOverreacting: All the Sides and Thomas have done this from time to time, especially over-emotional Patton, over-dramatical Roman and over-insane Remus.
** Thomas has an over the top reaction when Patton suggests the possibility of Joan being murdered.
--->'''Patton''': What if a known murderer came to your house asking where your friend was, so they could kill them? Would you tell the truth, then?\\
'''Thomas''': ''[Yelling]'' NO, NOT JOAN, NEVER! [[SayMyName JOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAANNNNNNNNN!]]\\
'''Logan''': ''[chill voice]'' He seems to like his friends...
** Logan sometimes overreacts screaming in frustration after Patton delivers one dad joke too many.
--->'''Patton''': Awww, what's the matter, Logan, do your socks have holes in them?\\
'''Logan''': No, they do not!\\
'''Patton''': Then how'd you get your feet in them!\\
'''Logan''': ''[screaming]'' YEEEEAAAAAAARRRRGGGGHHHH!!!!!
** When Patton gets emotional, he gets emotional.
--->'''Patton''': You're so smart. You could solve anything. ''[crying]'' Why don't we talk more?\\
'''Logan''': Uh-oh! Feelings!
** Roman is a {{Drama Queen}}, literally and figuratively.
--->'''Thomas''': I don't think that's fair. You've always been there playing a role.\\
'''Roman''': A role? ''[partially squealing]'' I'm not some bread roll to wait you over while you wait for your dinner! ''I'' am the main course!\\
'''Virgil''': ''[sighs]'' Oi...
** In Virgil, this is a rare trope, because he's usually chill on the outside, even if he is a turmoil of edginess on the inside, but Roman has the ability to break his defenses and put him over the edge, not often, but still.
--->'''Roman''': (Virgil is) our utterly delightful go-between for the operation of the lights, the sets, the costumes, the props, the actors, the...\\
'''Virgil''': ''[anxious voice, covering his head with his hands]'' SO MANY THINGS!\\\
'''Roman''': I've got it! Thomas, you write down all of your thoughts and feelings in an eloquent letter and deliver it to him in a basket full of his favorite things!\\
'''Thomas''': Maybe...\\
'''Virgil''': ''[yelling]'' WHOA, WHOA, WHOA! WHAT!?
** Deceit usually stays smooth and cool, but he occassionally overreacts when saying a lie, especially when he wants that lie to be obvious, so the sarcasm can burn his opponent. The overreacting, however, is not less comical because of that.
--->'''Deceit''': Classy is my middle name. Seriously, it's on my birth certificate, you can look it up for proof.\\
'''Virgil''': Yeah, well, maybe... maybe in Opposite Town.\\
'''Deceit''': ''[high pitched, at times screeching, laughter]'' OH, HA? OH, HA, HA, HA! AAAAAAH, HA, HA, HA! HA, HA, HA, HA, HA! GOOD ONE! HA, HA, HA, HA...\\
'''Virgil''': Okay, okay, you're now overselling it.\\
'''Deceit''': ''[sarcastic]'' Oh, you are hilarious, Virgil. You always have been!
* TheCorruption: A variation happens when Roman, Patton and Logan are stuck in Virgil's room for too long. They develop the same dark smudges under their eyes that Virgil has and start becoming loud and anxious.

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* ComicalOverreacting: All the Sides and Thomas have done this from time to time, especially over-emotional Patton, over-dramatical Roman and over-insane Remus.
** Thomas has an over the top reaction when Patton suggests the possibility of Joan being murdered.
--->'''Patton''': What if a known murderer came to your house asking where your friend was, so they could kill them? Would you tell the truth, then?\\
'''Thomas''': ''[Yelling]'' NO, NOT JOAN, NEVER! [[SayMyName JOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAANNNNNNNNN!]]\\
'''Logan''': ''[chill voice]'' He seems to like his friends...
** Logan sometimes overreacts screaming in frustration after Patton delivers one dad joke too many.
--->'''Patton''': Awww, what's the matter, Logan, do your socks have holes in them?\\
'''Logan''': No, they do not!\\
'''Patton''': Then how'd you get your feet in them!\\
'''Logan''': ''[screaming]'' YEEEEAAAAAAARRRRGGGGHHHH!!!!!
** When Patton gets emotional, he gets emotional.
--->'''Patton''': You're so smart. You could solve anything. ''[crying]'' Why don't we talk more?\\
'''Logan''': Uh-oh! Feelings!
** Roman is a {{Drama Queen}}, literally and figuratively.
--->'''Thomas''': I don't think that's fair. You've always been there playing a role.\\
'''Roman''': A role? ''[partially squealing]'' I'm not some bread roll to wait you over while you wait for your dinner! ''I'' am the main course!\\
'''Virgil''': ''[sighs]'' Oi...
** In Virgil, this is a rare trope, because he's usually chill on the outside, even if he is a turmoil of edginess on the inside, but Roman has the ability to break his defenses and put him over the edge, not often, but still.
--->'''Roman''': (Virgil is) our utterly delightful go-between for the operation of the lights, the sets, the costumes, the props, the actors, the...\\
'''Virgil''': ''[anxious voice, covering his head with his hands]'' SO MANY THINGS!\\\
'''Roman''': I've got it!
Oh, yes. Even level-headed Thomas, you write down all of your thoughts and feelings in an eloquent letter and deliver it to him in a basket full of his favorite things!\\
'''Thomas''': Maybe...\\
'''Virgil''': ''[yelling]'' WHOA, WHOA, WHOA! WHAT!?
**
manipulative Deceit usually stays smooth and cool, but he occassionally overreacts when saying a lie, especially when he wants stoic Logan are prone to having extremely outlandish reactions to things that lie to be obvious, so the sarcasm can burn his opponent. The overreacting, however, is not less comical because of that.
--->'''Deceit''': Classy is my middle name. Seriously, it's on my birth certificate, you can look it up for proof.\\
'''Virgil''': Yeah, well, maybe... maybe in Opposite Town.\\
'''Deceit''': ''[high pitched, at times screeching, laughter]'' OH, HA? OH, HA, HA, HA! AAAAAAH, HA, HA, HA! HA, HA, HA, HA, HA! GOOD ONE! HA, HA, HA, HA...\\
'''Virgil''': Okay, okay, you're now overselling it.\\
'''Deceit''': ''[sarcastic]'' Oh, you are hilarious, Virgil. You always have been!
happen around them.
* TheCorruption: A variation happens when Roman, Patton Patton, and Logan are stuck in Virgil's room for too long. They develop the same dark smudges under their eyes that Virgil has and start becoming loud and anxious.



* CurseCutShort: All of the Sides and Thomas have done this at one point or another. Virgil in particular does it frequently enough that he manages to [[PrecisionFStrike avoid getting cut off in "Moving On".]]

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* CurseCutShort: All of the Sides and Thomas have done this at one point or another. Virgil Virgil, in particular particular, does it frequently enough that he manages to [[PrecisionFStrike avoid getting cut off in "Moving On".]]



-->'''Roman''': Well, there is one thing I think we can all be thankful for, you guys.\\
'''Logan''': Oh yeah? What is that?\\
'''Roman''': You can't get any more unique than all of us.\\
'''Patton''': That's right, Roman!\\
''[Roman laughs while Patton gives a weird look to the camera, then on a separate confessional Patton talks to the camera]''\\
'''Patton''': I didn't wanna admit I was a bit confused by that. He's such a big Disney fan, I would've thought he'd see how similar we are to the concept of ''WesternAnimation/InsideOut''...\\
'''Roman''': ''[off-screen, yelling]'' [[BigWhat WHAT]]?! Oh my-\\
'''Patton''': [[TooDumbToLive You think he heard me]]?\\
'''Roman''': [[WhatHaveIBecome MY LIFE IS A LIE]]!

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-->'''Roman''': Well, there is one thing -->'''Patton''': [Roman]'s such a big Disney fan, I think would've thought he'd see how similar we can all be thankful for, you guys.are to the concept of ''WesternAnimation/InsideOut''.\\
'''Logan''': Oh yeah? What is that?\\
'''Roman''': ''(off-screen)'' [[BigWhat WHAT]]?! Oh my--\\
'''Patton''': ...
You can't get any more unique than all of us.\\
'''Patton''': That's right, Roman!\\
''[Roman laughs while Patton gives a weird look to the camera, then on a separate confessional Patton talks to the camera]''\\
'''Patton''': I didn't wanna admit I was a bit confused by that. He's such a big Disney fan, I would've thought he'd see how similar we are to the concept of ''WesternAnimation/InsideOut''...\\
think he heard me?\\
'''Roman''': ''[off-screen, yelling]'' [[BigWhat WHAT]]?! Oh my-\\
'''Patton''': [[TooDumbToLive You think he heard me]]?\\
'''Roman''': [[WhatHaveIBecome MY LIFE IS A LIE]]!
''My life is a LIE!''



'''Virgil:''' Is no one going to acknowledge that he (Logan) just dabbed?\\

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'''Virgil:''' Is no one going to acknowledge that he (Logan) [Logan] just dabbed?\\



** Logan's name is based off of logic, obviously, but more specifically ''logos'', one of Aristotle's ingredients for persuasion. That leads to...
** Patton's name comes from ''pathos'', the appeal to emotion. It also ties in with paternal, as he's the fatherly character.

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** Logan's name is based off of on logic, obviously, but more specifically ''logos'', one of Aristotle's ingredients for persuasion. That leads to...
** Patton's name comes from ''pathos'', the appeal to emotion. It also ties in with paternal, "paternity", as he's the fatherly character.



* MediumAwareness: All the Sides and especially Thomas are conscious all the time that they're on a [=YouTube=] video.
-->'''Thomas''': I'm still hungry!\\
'''Roman''': Stop him! Stop him!\\
''[Thomas goes to the kitchen and starts looking for something to eat]''\\
'''Logan''': Thomas, we can't afford these detours anymore!\\
'''Thomas''': I found some granola!\\
'''Roman''': ''[Sighs]'' We're trying to do a vid here, buddy!
* OnlyKnownByTheirNickname: All of the Sides were only known by their nicknames at the start of the series; however, this trope has completely been averted by the end of season one, except for the Dark Sides like Deceit and the rest to come in the future.

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* MediumAwareness: All the Sides and especially Thomas are conscious all the time aware that they're on in a [=YouTube=] video.
-->'''Thomas''': I'm still hungry!\\
'''Roman''': Stop him! Stop him!\\
''[Thomas goes to
series. Aside from the kitchen beginnings and starts looking for something to eat]''\\
'''Logan''': Thomas, we can't afford these detours anymore!\\
'''Thomas''': I found some granola!\\
'''Roman''': ''[Sighs]'' We're trying to do a vid here, buddy!
ends of episodes, however, they usually don't mention it.
* OnlyKnownByTheirNickname: All of the Sides were only known by their nicknames at the start of the series; however, this trope has been completely been averted defied by the end of season one, except for one. However, the Dark Sides like Deceit and the rest are mostly referred to come in the future.as a group since, as of writing, only two of them have shown themselves.



** Patton transforms into a paper-bag puppet, because he wanted to do something "simple and fun".

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** Patton transforms into a paper-bag puppet, puppet because he wanted to do something "simple and fun".



Thomas is a young man who has the ability to project all the aspects of his personality into several people he calls the Sanders Sides.[[note]]This folder is for the Sanders Sides character named Thomas, who, even though he is based on the real life Thomas Sanders, it is independent of him, as noted by the fact that Thomas Sanders talks about Sanders Sides Thomas in third person.[[/note]]

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Thomas is a young man who has the ability to project all the aspects of his personality into several people he calls the Sanders Sides.[[note]]This folder is for the Sanders Sides character named Thomas, who, even though he is based on the real life real-life Thomas Sanders, it is independent of him, as noted by the fact that Thomas Sanders talks about Sanders Sides Thomas in the third person.[[/note]]



* AuthorAvatar: Thomas as a character is an avatar of the real life Thomas Sanders, even sharing name, but the real life Thomas Sanders always talks about Thomas in third person, making clear they're two independent entities.

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* AuthorAvatar: Thomas as a character is an avatar of the real life real-life Thomas Sanders, even sharing name, but the real life real-life Thomas Sanders always talks about Thomas in the third person, making clear they're two independent entities.



* DistractedByTheSexy: He's sometimes sidetracked by cute guys... including when he was supposed go to a performance Joan was giving. Oops.
* DoesNotLikeSpam: He's not a fan of carrots, at all.
-->'''Roman''': No sweets or guilty pleasures! Only broccoli, brussels sprouts, carrots...\\
'''Thomas''': ''[concerned]'' Ca... uh... carrots!?\\
'''Roman''': ''[Firmly]'' Yes, carrots!

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* DistractedByTheSexy: He's sometimes sidetracked by cute guys... including when he was supposed to go to a performance Joan was giving. Oops.
* DoesNotLikeSpam: He's not a fan of carrots, at all.
-->'''Roman''': No sweets or guilty pleasures! Only broccoli, brussels sprouts, carrots...\\
'''Thomas''': ''[concerned]'' Ca... uh... carrots!?\\
'''Roman''': ''[Firmly]'' Yes, carrots!
He despises carrots.



* TheLeader: Thomas acts like the leader of the team in many of the debates, moderating some conversations, cutting off fights between Sides when they appear and reining them in if they get out of control. Furthermore, Thomas is able to command the Sides to do or say something and the Sides [[note]]with the exceptions noted in the MagicAIsMagicA trope below[[/note]] must obey, whether they like it or not, although Thomas will rarely use this ability. Subverted sometimes, when for some reason the roles are switched and one, some or all of the Sides get in charge while Thomas follows them.

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* TheLeader: Thomas acts like as the leader of the team in many of the debates, moderating some conversations, cutting off fights between Sides when they appear and reining them in if they get out of control. Furthermore, Thomas is able to command the Sides to do or say something and the Sides [[note]]with the exceptions noted in the MagicAIsMagicA trope below[[/note]] must obey, whether they like it or not, although Thomas will rarely use this ability. Subverted sometimes, when for some reason the roles are switched and one, some or all of the Sides get in charge while Thomas follows them.



* LeadYouCanRelateTo: Thomas is portrayed as an average human being with his own personal and existential issues to which the audience are meant to relate to.

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* LeadYouCanRelateTo: Thomas is portrayed as an average human being with his own personal and existential issues to which the audience are is meant to relate to.



-->'''Thomas''': I was hoping that you'd tell me that I did good, objectively!\\
'''Logan''': Yikes! Unfortunately, I cannot do that, Thomas.\\\
'''Virgil''': That's when you start wondering why you do feel all relaxed. You don't usually feel this way, so what are you doing different? ''[threatening voice]'' What are you doing wrong? What are you forgetting to do?\\
'''Thomas''': ''[anxious]'' Okay, stop it, stop it!\\
'''Virgil''': Sorry, kid, but this is what I do.



* MilhollandRelationshipMoment: Thomas is really afraid to confess to Joan that the reason he forgot to attend a show they were doing was because he was dating a cute guy he had just known, and he fears he's going to lose Joan's friendship because of this. In the end, when Thomas finally tells Joan the truth, it turns out that Joan doesn't mind at all and everything is okay.

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* MilhollandRelationshipMoment: Thomas is really afraid to confess to Joan that the reason he forgot to attend a show they were doing was because that he was dating a cute guy he had just known, and he fears he's going to lose Joan's friendship because of this. In the end, when Thomas finally tells Joan the truth, it turns out that Joan doesn't mind at all and everything is okay.



-->'''Thomas''': I've become... sentimental.[...]\\
'''Patton''': ''[to Logan, emotional]'' With you I'm always home!\\
'''Logan''': ''[to Patton]'' You need to chill out!\\
'''Thomas''': ''[to himself]'' I do need to chill out!
* TokenHuman: He is surrounded by people with powers like shapeshifting, making things appear or disappear, teleportation... and he is the only one that lacks any of these special abilities and requires the others' help in this matter. Sure, everything is in Thomas' mind, and in a way he's the source of all of these powers, but still.

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-->'''Thomas''': I've become... sentimental.[...]\\
'''Patton''': ''[to Logan, emotional]'' With you I'm always home!\\
'''Logan''': ''[to Patton]'' You need to chill out!\\
'''Thomas''': ''[to himself]'' I do need to chill out!
* TokenHuman: He is surrounded by people with powers like shapeshifting, making things appear or disappear, teleportation... and he is the only one that lacks any of these special abilities and requires the others' help in this matter. Sure, everything is in Thomas' mind, and in a way way, he's the source of all of these powers, but still.
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As Remus is Thomas' dark creativity, it's better that his pic portrays him doing Roman's mirrored pose, it defines him better.


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[[caption-width-right:350:"I just ''love'' showing up where I'm not invited!"]]

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[[caption-width-right:350:"I just ''love'' showing up where I'm not invited!"]]
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[[caption-width-right:350:"Hey, prude! Your art is bad!"]]
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'''Deceit''': Maybe that's why it's so easy for you to recognize me for what I am. Like I said before, it takes a liar to know a liar.
** In, ''Dealing with Intrusive Thoughts'', the secret is finally revealed: Virgil in the past used to be a Dark Side.

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'''Deceit''': Maybe that's why it's so easy for you to recognize me for what I am. Like I said before, it takes a liar to know a liar.
liar.\\\
** In, ''Dealing "Dealing with Intrusive Thoughts'', Thoughts", the secret is finally revealed: Virgil in the past used to be a Dark Side.

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*MadArtist: He's half of Thomas's creativity and completely out of his mind.



-->'''Logan''': The truth is, Remus, you don't get me in the slightest. Object impermanence renders you... pretty unintimidating. ''[Remus feels as if an invisible fist had punched him in the face]'' What's so frightening about something that has no real world impact?\\

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-->'''Logan''': The truth is, Remus, you don't get to me in the slightest. Object impermanence renders you... pretty unintimidating. ''[Remus feels reels as if an invisible fist had punched him in the face]'' What's so frightening about something that has no real world impact?\\
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* AnimalMotifs: All of the Dark Sides seem to have some feature related to animals, whether in a garment, their makeup or their behavior.
** Deceit: Snakes. This animal is fitting for his deceitful nature. In "Selfishness v. Selflessness", he reveals his sigil: a double-headed yellow snake.

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* AnimalMotifs: All of the Dark Sides seem to have some feature related to animals, whether in a garment, their makeup appearance or their behavior.
** Deceit: Snakes. This animal is fitting for his deceitful nature.nature, and Deceit has half the face of a snake. In "Selfishness v. Selflessness", he reveals his sigil: a double-headed yellow snake.
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* BaitandSwitchComment: He speaks with a lot of these, the best example is when he said Thomas should get out the bird's nest and fly...then fly into a jet turbine and killing the bird and the riders of the plane.

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* BaitandSwitchComment: BaitAndSwitchComment: He speaks with a lot of these, the best example is when he said Thomas should get out the bird's nest and fly...then fly into a jet turbine and killing the bird and the riders of the plane.
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The Dark Sides, or "The Others", represent all the repressed aspects of Thomas, the ones he didn't want to recognize so badly that went hidden even from him. It is unknown right now how many there are or what each of them represents, as for the time being only two[[note]]Technically ''three'' as Virgil was one[[/note]] of them have shown up: Deceit and Remus.

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The Dark Sides, or "The Others", represent all the repressed aspects of Thomas, the ones he didn't want to recognize so badly that went hidden even from him. It is unknown right now how many there are or what each of them represents, as for represents. For the time being only two[[note]]Technically ''three'' as Virgil was one[[/note]] being, three of them have shown up: are known: Virgil, Deceit and Remus.

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* AnimalMotifs: All of the Dark Sides seem to have some feature related to animals, whether in a garment, their makeup or their behavior.
** Deceit: Snakes. This animal is fitting for his deceitful nature. In "Selfishness v. Selflessness", he reveals his sigil: a double-headed yellow snake.
** Remus: Octopuses. There's an octopus on his belt buckle and the title card for his introductory episode features octopus tentacles. Octopuses are slimy, can infiltrate almost any space, and once have hold of something, it's nearly impossible to make them let go. Not to mention all the other [[NaughtyTentacles disturbing]] [[CombatTentacles implications]] of their tentacles.
** Virgil: Felines. His exact animal hasn't been revealed yet, but several times he has hissed like a cat or a feline, usually when he gets angry and starts reaching his limit.



* AnimalMotifs: Snakes. Fitting for his deceitful nature. In "Selfishness v. Selflessness", he reveals his sigil: a double-headed yellow snake.



* AnimalMotifs: Downplayed--there's an octopus on his belt buckle and the title card for his introductory episode features octopus tentacles. Octopuses are slimy, can infiltrate almost any space, and once have hold of something, it's nearly impossible to make them let go. Not to mention all the other [[NaughtyTentacles disturbing]] [[CombatTentacles implications]] of their tentacles.
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* AnimalMotifs: Downplayed--there's an octopus on his belt buckle and the title card for his introductory episode features octopus tentacles. Octopuses are slimy, can infiltrate almost any space, and once have hold of something, it's nearly impossible to make them let go. Not to mention all the other [[NaughtyTentacles disturbing]] [[CombatTentacles implications]] of their tentacles.
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''[Thomas looks at Virgil in shock, [[StunnedSilence not saying a word]]. Virgil looks back at him and shrugs with his eyes starting getting red and watering down, [[RunningAwayToCry then he sinks down]].]''

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''[Thomas looks at Virgil in shock, with a face of shock [[DisappointedInYou and a dash of disappointment]], [[StunnedSilence not saying a word]]. Virgil looks back at him and shrugs with [[StepfordSmiler sporting half a little smile]] while his eyes starting start getting red and watering down, [[RunningAwayToCry then he sinks down]].]''
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* TheNicknamer: Shares this trait with his twin brother Roman. They even use the same nickname for the same person sometimes, which shows that, while Remus is a polar oposite of his brother Roman, there are some traits were they are almost identical, which reminds that they're still brothers after all.

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* TheNicknamer: Shares this trait with his twin brother Roman. They even use the same nickname for the same person sometimes, which shows that, while Remus is a polar oposite of his brother Roman, there are some traits were where they are almost identical, which reminds that they're still brothers after all.
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** Fittingly enough, a major point of his episode is that he's laughable in the other sense: He's all bark, no bite, and, so long as Thomas doesn't try to repress him, inevitably gives up.

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** Fittingly enough, a major point of his episode is that he's laughable in the other sense: He's all bark, no bite, and, so long as Thomas doesn't try to repress him, while also not acting on him, inevitably gives up.
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** Remus: He [[TooKinkyToTorture loves being mistreated, both verbally and phisically]], which means nothing the others do against him affects him or his twisted-playful behavior... except one single thing: being called "unintimidating". He literally feels as if some invisible fist punches him in the face when Logan does that, and it's the only kind of attack that makes him honestly angry. When Thomas puts this remark in practice and starts literally ignoring him, he loses all the intimidating features he had and becomes nothing more than a harmless manchild clowning around him.
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* TheNicknamer: Shares this trait with his twin brother Roman. They even use the same nickname for the same person sometimes, which shows that, while Remus is a polar oposite of his brother Roman, there are some traits were they are almost identical, which reminds that they're still brothers after all.
-->'''Logan''': The truth is, Remus, you don't get me in the slightest. Object impermanence renders you... pretty unintimidating. ''[Remus feels as if an invisible fist had punched him in the face]'' What's so frightening about something that has no real world impact?\\
'''Remus''': ''[angry]'' Oh, shut up, Nerdy Wolverine!\\
''[later]''\\
'''Roman''': More than anything, I feel like I was struck by a... realization, like Einstein with the apple.\\
'''Logan''': You mean Newton?\\
'''Roman''': ''[angry]'' Oh, shut up, Nerdy Wolverine!
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* InSeriesNickname: They have been given two nicknames by Roman and Virgil.
** "Dark Sides" is a nickname coined by Roman for the hidden aspects of Thomas' mind. For Virgil, they're simply "The Others."

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* InSeriesNickname: They The hidden aspects of Thomas' mind have been given two nicknames by Roman and Virgil.
** "Dark Sides" is a nickname coined by Roman for the hidden aspects Roman, and he was pretty proud of Thomas' mind. For Virgil, they're simply "The Others."making up that name himself.
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** Fittingly enough, a major point of his episode is that he's laughable in the other sense: He's all bark, no bite, and, so long as Thomas doesn't try to repress him, inevitably gives up.
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* MadeOfEvil: Remus is the real personification of all of Thomas' repressed vices, so he'll keep suggesting Thomas to fall into his evil suggestions again and again, just for the sake of it.
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[[caption-width-right:350:"I think don't believe I'm smarter than anyone else... I have a vocab word for this...KNOW I'm smarter than anyone else."]]
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[[caption-width-right:350:"One option, and I'm just throwing this out there, is to hide under the covers until the sun goes away."]]
-->''I'm not always the bad guy...''

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-->''I'm not always -->''One option, and I'm just throwing this out there, is to hide under the bad guy...covers until the sun goes away.''
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-->''I'm on a solo quest to save myself for now.''

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-->''I'm on -->''You can't have a solo quest to save myself for now.ball without a prince.''
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* InSeriesNickname: "Dark Sides" is a nickname coined by Roman for the hidden aspects of Thomas' mind. For Virgil, they're simply "The Others."
-->'''Thomas''': One more question. Are there any other Sides that Deceit has hidden away from me? \\

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* InSeriesNickname: "Dark They have been given two nicknames by Roman and Virgil.
**"Dark
Sides" is a nickname coined by Roman for the hidden aspects of Thomas' mind. For Virgil, they're simply "The Others."
-->'''Thomas''': --->'''Thomas''': One more question. Are there any other Sides that Deceit has hidden away from me? \\


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**"The Others" is actually the first name Roman used to refer to them in "Accepting Anxiety Part 2", and in "Dealing with Intrusive Thoughts", when Thomas asked Virgil if he meant the Dark Sides, Virgil corrected him saying "The Others", as if that was the name they had given to themselves.
--->'''Roman''': Yeah, and you are nothing compared to the Others!\\\
'''Virgil''': I thought that I would be able to protect you from them.\\
'''Thomas''': The Dark Sides?\\
'''Virgil''': The Others.

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