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**He and Sheogorath are both gods of madness, just in [[{{Cloudcukoolander}} different]] [[SuperOCD ways]].
**He's actually surpsingly similar to "Mehrunes Dagon" of all Daedra: while Dagon is a god of chaos and destruction while Jyggalag embodies absolute order, they've both dedicated themselves to an ImpossibleTask and have paradoxical motives for doing so (Dagon wants to permanently reduce all of reality to a state of nothingness despite embodying ambition and change while Jyggalag desires to bring order to Oblivion despite being a Daedra, who are chaotic by nature).
**He and Sheogorath are both gods of madness, just in [[{{Cloudcukoolander}} different]] [[SuperOCD ways]].
**He's actually surpsingly similar to "Mehrunes Dagon" of all Daedra: while Dagon is a god of chaos and destruction while Jyggalag embodies absolute order, they've both dedicated themselves to an ImpossibleTask and have paradoxical motives for doing so (Dagon wants to permanently reduce all of reality to a state of nothingness despite embodying ambition and change while Jyggalag desires to bring order to Oblivion despite being a Daedra, who are chaotic by nature).
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* MadGod: It is suggested by Sotha Sil's priests that Jyggalag is a deity of insanity like Sheogorath, but unlike the chaotic mania and melancholy depression that Sheogorath represents, Jyggalag is the god of [[SuperOCD extreme order and obsessive organization]]. Further, Sotha Sil's priests present a theory is that Jyggalag knew that he was a Daedra and that he was a "flaw" in the Aubris, which drove him to madness.* OrderVersusChaos: He is the order to Sheogorath's chaos.
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* MadGod: It is suggested by Sotha Sil's priests that Jyggalag is a deity of insanity like Sheogorath, but unlike the chaotic mania and melancholy depression that Sheogorath represents, Jyggalag is the god of [[SuperOCD extreme order and obsessive organization]]. Further, Sotha Sil's priests present a theory is that Jyggalag knew that he was a Daedra and that he was a "flaw" in the Aubris, which drove him to madness.* OrderVersusChaos: He is the order to Sheogorath's chaos.
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* MadGod: It is suggested by Sotha Sil's priests that Jyggalag is a deity of insanity like Sheogorath, but unlike the chaotic mania and melancholy depression that Sheogorath represents, Jyggalag is the god of [[SuperOCD extreme order and obsessive organization]]. Further, Sotha Sil's priests present a theory is that Jyggalag knew that he was a Daedra and that he was a "flaw" in the Aubris, which drove him to madness.
* NotSoDifferent: As noted in the above entry, his quirks make him just as insane as Sheogorath.
* OrderVersusChaos: He is the order to Sheogorath's chaos.
* NotSoDifferent: As noted in the above entry, his quirks make him just as insane as Sheogorath.
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* MadGod: It is suggested by Sotha Sil's priests that Jyggalag is a deity of insanity like Sheogorath, but unlike the chaotic mania and melancholy depression that Sheogorath represents, Jyggalag is the god of [[SuperOCD extreme order and obsessive organization]]. Further, Sotha Sil's priests present a theory is that Jyggalag knew that he was a Daedra and that he was a "flaw" in the Aubris, which drove him to madness.
* NotSoDifferent: As noted in the above entry, his quirks make him just as insane as Sheogorath.
madness.* OrderVersusChaos: He is the order to Sheogorath's chaos.
* NotSoDifferent: As noted in the above entry, his quirks make him just as insane as Sheogorath.
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* OxymoronicBeing: Sotha Sil and his priests believe the source of Jyggalag's madness stems from the fact that, despite his all-consuming desire for order, his status as a Daedric Prince makes him an inherently chaotic being, and his knowledge drove him insane with the contradiction.
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* OxymoronicBeing: Sotha Sil and his priests believe the source of Jyggalag's madness stems from the fact that, despite his all-consuming desire for order, his status Jyggalag's nature as a Daedric Prince makes Daedra renders him an inherently chaotic being, creature, and his knowledge of this contradictory existence drove him insane with the contradiction.insane.
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** One implication of the obscure texts is that Jyggalag's extreme obsession with order is, itself, a form of insanity, and that Sheogorath is madness in the expression of manic uncertainty while Jyggalag is madness expressed in the form of an absolute ControlFreak. According to "The Truth in Sequence":
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** One implication of the obscure texts is that Jyggalag's extreme obsession with order is, itself, a form of insanity, and that Sheogorath is madness in the expression of manic uncertainty while Jyggalag is madness expressed in the form of an absolute ControlFreak. According to "The Truth in Sequence":
* OxymoronicBeing: Sotha Sil and his priests believe the source of Jyggalag's madness stems from the fact that, despite his all-consuming desire for order, his status as a Daedric Prince makes him an inherently chaotic being, and his knowledge drove him insane with the contradiction.
* OxymoronicBeing: Sotha Sil and his priests believe the source of Jyggalag's madness stems from the fact that, despite his all-consuming desire for order, his status as a Daedric Prince makes him an inherently chaotic being, and his knowledge drove him insane with the contradiction.
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* OxymoronicBeing: Sotha Sil and his priests present the theory that, as a Daedric Prince, he is a "flaw" in the structure of the Aubris, and this knowledge drove him insane with the contradiction.
--->''"Of the Daedra, only the Gray Prince of Order knew his nature, and he went mad in the knowing."''
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** One implication of the obscure texts is that Jyggalag's extreme obsession with order is, itself, a form of insanity, and that Sheogorath is madness in the expression of manic uncertainty while Jyggalag is madness expressed in the form of an absolute ControlFreak. According to oxymoronicbeing:"The Truth in Sequence":
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** One implication of the obscure texts is that Jyggalag's extreme obsession with order is, itself, a form of insanity, and that Sheogorath is madness in the expression of manic uncertainty while Jyggalag is madness expressed in the form of an absolute ControlFreak. According to "The Truth in Sequence":
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** One implication of the obscure texts is that Jyggalag's extreme obsession with order is, itself, a form of insanity, and that Sheogorath is madness in the expression of manic uncertainty while Jyggalag is madness expressed in the form of an absolute ControlFreak. According to "The Truth in Sequence":oxymoronicbeing:
*OxymoronicBeing: Sotha Sil and his priests present the theory that, as a Daedric Prince, he is a "flaw" in the structure of the Aubris, and this knowledge drove him insane with the contradiction.
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* WorldsStrongestMan: If [[UnreliableNarrator his account]] of why he became Shegorath is true, then he may very well be the the Daedra: The amount of beings in the Aurbis who pose enough of threat to get the ''[[JerkassGods Daedric Princes]]'' to cooperate can be counted on one hand.
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* WorldsStrongestMan: If [[UnreliableNarrator his account]] of why he became Shegorath is true, then he may very well be the the most powerful Daedra: The amount of beings in the Aurbis Oblivion who pose enough of a threat to get the ''[[JerkassGods Daedric Daedric]] [[IncrediblyInconvenientDeity Princes]]'' to cooperate with each other can be counted on one hand.
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* SuperOCD: Jyggalag obsessively orders everything in his Realm and extends that to a desire to order all of the realms of Oblivion. Sotha Sil and his priests present the theory that, as a Daedric Prince, he is a "flaw" in the structure of the Aubris, and this knowledge drove him insane with the contradiction.
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* SuperOCD: Jyggalag obsessively orders everything in his Realm and extends that to a desire to order all of the realms of Oblivion. Sotha Sil and his priests present the theory that, as a Daedric Prince, he is a "flaw" in the structure of the Aubris, and this knowledge drove him insane with the contradiction.
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*WorldsStrongestMan: If [[UnreliableNarrator his account]] of why he became Shegorath is true, then he may very well be the the Daedra: The amount of beings in the Aurbis who pose enough of threat to get the ''[[JerkassGods Daedric Princes]]'' to cooperate can be counted on one hand.
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* YourSoulIsMine: Her most famous artifact is Azura's Star, a reusable Grand Soul Gem. She is not otherwise associated with the taking of souls, however, making it somewhat unusual.
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* YourSoulIsMine: Her most famous artifact is Azura's Star, a reusable Grand Soul Gem. She is not otherwise associated with the taking of souls, however, making it somewhat unusual. Also unusual is the Star is specifically intended to ''not'' be capable of trapping a human's soul.
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* ThatManIsDead: When he returns to his true form:
-->'''Sheogorath:''' With the Staff, there was hope. But now, hope is dead. ''I'' am dead. The Realm... '''AAAAARGH!!''' The Realm is dead! SHEOGORATH... IS ''DEAD!!''
-->'''Jyggalag:''' All shall crumble before... '''JYGGALAG!!'''
-->'''Sheogorath:''' With the Staff, there was hope. But now, hope is dead. ''I'' am dead. The Realm... '''AAAAARGH!!''' The Realm is dead! SHEOGORATH... IS ''DEAD!!''
-->'''Jyggalag:''' All shall crumble before... '''JYGGALAG!!'''
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** His motives (If him being a discarded draft of creation is the truth) are also not quite incomprehensible if some of the “Obscure Texts” are to be believed. Assuming that “draft of the universe” origin is true, he’s essentially getting information so he can know every difference between himself and creation as it exists. He’s either trying to figure out why his creators discarded him, or how to finish the process since they won’t. Either is understandable from a human perspective.
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* PutOnABus: More than half their number do not appear in ''Morrowind'': Clavicus Vile, Hermaeus Mora, Jyggalag, Meridia, Namira, Nocturnal, Peryite, Sanguine and Vaermina are all personally absent and do not give the hero a quest, although they are all mentioned (even if only through mentions in books) and several of their artifacts appear. This is because they are not a part of the official Dunmer religion, which consists of the "Anticipations"; Azura, Boethiah and Mephala, and the "House of Troubles"; Malacath, Mehrunes Dagon, Molag Bal and Sheogorath.
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* PutOnABus: More than half their number do not appear in ''Morrowind'': Clavicus Vile, Hermaeus Mora, Jyggalag, Meridia, Namira, Nocturnal, Peryite, Sanguine and Vaermina are all personally absent and do not give the hero a quest, although they are all mentioned (even if only through mentions in books) and several of their artifacts appear. This is because they are not a part of the official Dunmer religion, which consists of the "Anticipations"; Azura, Boethiah and Mephala, and the "House of Troubles"; Malacath, Mehrunes Dagon, Molag Bal and Sheogorath. Hircine is absent in the base game but appears as the BigBad of the ''Bloodmoon'' expansion.
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* EldritchAbomination: [[SubvertedTrope Subverted]], but also [[PlayingWithATrope Played With]] a little. While he dives head-first into the aesthetics and trappings traditionally assocated with this trope, he isn't anymore "othrworldly" or "beyond mortal comprehension" than any other Daedric Prince. While some sources do state him to be one of the "oldest" of a class TimeAbyss beings, forming out of "discarded ideas" during creation, it should be noted that this conflicts with the consensus account for the origin of the Et'Ada.
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* EldritchAbomination: [[SubvertedTrope Subverted]], but also [[PlayingWithATrope Played With]] a little. While he dives head-first into the aesthetics and trappings traditionally assocated associated with this trope, he isn't anymore "othrworldly" "otherworldly" or "beyond mortal comprehension" than any other Daedric Prince.Et'Ada, though to be fair that is an accurate description to a degree. While some sources do state him to be one of the "oldest" of a class TimeAbyss beings, forming out of "discarded ideas" during creation, it should be noted that this conflicts with the consensus account for the origin of the Et'Ada.
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* EvilIsPetty: He has long desired to know the secrets of the Skaal, even though the secrets are relatively benign knowledge about how the Skaal commune with the forces of nature. Mora wants them anyway, for as the Prince of Knowledge, it is simply in his nature to hoard secrets, regardless of their true value.[[note]]Though to be fair, it's never really explained just ''why'' the Skaal were hiding this info from him in the first place.[[/note]] What's more, when he finally gets them to surrender this knowledge through AnOfferYouCantRefuse, he [[spoiler:murders Storn while taking the knowledge from him]] as nothing more than petty revenge for the Skaal defying him in the past.
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* EvilIsPetty: He has long desired to know the secrets of the Skaal, even though the secrets are relatively benign knowledge about how the Skaal commune with the forces of nature. Mora wants them anyway, for as the Prince of Knowledge, it is simply in his nature to hoard secrets, regardless of their true value.[[note]]Though to be fair, it's never really explained just ''why'' the Skaal were hiding this info from him in the first place.[[/note]] What's more, when he finally gets them to surrender this knowledge through AnOfferYouCantRefuse, he [[spoiler:murders Storn while taking the knowledge from him]] as nothing more than petty revenge for the Skaal defying him in the past.
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* EldritchAbomination: [[SubvertedTrope Subverted]]. While he dives head-first into the aesthetics and trappings traditionally assocated with this trope, he doesn't really qualify as an ''actual'' Eldritch Abomination any more than any other Daedric Prince. While some sources do state him to be one of the "oldest" of a class TimeAbyss beings, forming out of "discarded ideas" during creation, it should be noted that this conflicts with the consensus account for the origin of the Et'Ada.
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* EldritchAbomination: [[SubvertedTrope Subverted]]. Subverted]], but also [[PlayingWithATrope Played With]] a little. While he dives head-first into the aesthetics and trappings traditionally assocated with this trope, he doesn't really qualify as an ''actual'' Eldritch Abomination any more isn't anymore "othrworldly" or "beyond mortal comprehension" than any other Daedric Prince. While some sources do state him to be one of the "oldest" of a class TimeAbyss beings, forming out of "discarded ideas" during creation, it should be noted that this conflicts with the consensus account for the origin of the Et'Ada.
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* EvilIsPetty: He has long desired to know the secrets of the Skaal, even though the secrets are relatively benign knowledge about how the Skaal commune with the forces of nature. Mora wants them anyway, for as the Prince of Knowledge, it is simply in his nature to hoard secrets, regardless of their true value. What's more, when he finally gets them to surrender this knowledge through AnOfferYouCantRefuse, he [[spoiler:murders Storn while taking the knowledge from him]] as nothing more than petty revenge for the Skaal defying him in the past.
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* EvilIsPetty: He has long desired to know the secrets of the Skaal, even though the secrets are relatively benign knowledge about how the Skaal commune with the forces of nature. Mora wants them anyway, for as the Prince of Knowledge, it is simply in his nature to hoard secrets, regardless of their true value. [[note]]Though to be fair, it's never really explained just ''why'' the Skaal were hiding this info from him in the first place.[[/note]] What's more, when he finally gets them to surrender this knowledge through AnOfferYouCantRefuse, he [[spoiler:murders Storn while taking the knowledge from him]] as nothing more than petty revenge for the Skaal defying him in the past.
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* EldritchAbomination: [[SubvertedTrope Subverted]]. While he dives head-first into the aesthetics and trappings traditionally assocated with this trope, he himself doesn't actually qualify as an Eldritch Abomination any more than any other Daedric Prince. While some sources do state him to be one of the "oldest" of a class TimeAbyss beings, forming out of "discarded ideas" during creation, it should be noted that this conflicts with the consensus account for the origin of the Et'Ada.
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* EldritchAbomination: [[SubvertedTrope Subverted]]. While he dives head-first into the aesthetics and trappings traditionally assocated with this trope, he himself doesn't actually really qualify as an ''actual'' Eldritch Abomination any more than any other Daedric Prince. While some sources do state him to be one of the "oldest" of a class TimeAbyss beings, forming out of "discarded ideas" during creation, it should be noted that this conflicts with the consensus account for the origin of the Et'Ada.
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He's not a cthulhu, he just dresses like one.
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* EldritchAbomination: While all of the Daedric Princes (and perhaps all of the series' divine beings) qualify to a degree, Hermaeus Mora is the closest to to the true nature of the trope. He routinely appears as a Lovecraftian mass of tentacles, eyes, and claws. The "knowledge" he specializes in tends to be of the "forbidden" and "eldritch" variety. He also claims to be one of the "oldest" of a class TimeAbyss beings, forming out of "discarded ideas" during creation.
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* EldritchAbomination: [[SubvertedTrope Subverted]]. While all of he dives head-first into the aesthetics and trappings traditionally assocated with this trope, he himself doesn't actually qualify as an Eldritch Abomination any more than any other Daedric Princes (and perhaps all of the series' divine beings) qualify to a degree, Hermaeus Mora is the closest to to the true nature of the trope. He routinely appears as a Lovecraftian mass of tentacles, eyes, and claws. The "knowledge" he specializes in tends to be of the "forbidden" and "eldritch" variety. He also claims Prince. While some sources do state him to be one of the "oldest" of a class TimeAbyss beings, forming out of "discarded ideas" during creation.creation, it should be noted that this conflicts with the consensus account for the origin of the Et'Ada.
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* WarriorHeaven: The "Ashen Forge" within the Ashpit is this for loyal Orcs. Entering it brings immortality, abundant food and drink, and of course, many great battles. It is said that every Orc is a chief, every chief has a thousand wives, and every wife has a thousand slaves to cater to their every need. [[note]]This is very likely hyperbole, such as when real life Christians say that Heaven is "paved with gold," as in-game there does not appear to ''be'' a thousand Orc women for every Orc man, and because it's probably worth asking what race all those slaves are...[[/note]]
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* WarriorHeaven: The "Ashen Forge" within the Ashpit is this for loyal Orcs. Entering it brings immortality, abundant food and drink, and of course, many great battles. It is said that every Orc is a chief, every chief has a thousand wives, and every wife has a thousand slaves to cater to their every need. [[note]]This is very likely hyperbole, such as when real life Christians say that Heaven is "paved with gold," as in-game there does not appear to ''be'' a thousand Orc women for every Orc man, and because man. Also, it's probably worth asking what race all those slaves are...[[/note]]
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* WarriorHeaven: The "Ashen Forge" within the Ashpit is this for loyal Orcs. Entering it brings immortality, abundant food and drink, and of course, many great battles. It is said that every Orc is a chief, every chief has a thousand wives, and every wife has a thousand slaves to cater to their every need.
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* WarriorHeaven: The "Ashen Forge" within the Ashpit is this for loyal Orcs. Entering it brings immortality, abundant food and drink, and of course, many great battles. It is said that every Orc is a chief, every chief has a thousand wives, and every wife has a thousand slaves to cater to their every need. [[note]]This is very likely hyperbole, such as when real life Christians say that Heaven is "paved with gold," as in-game there does not appear to ''be'' a thousand Orc women for every Orc man, and because it's probably worth asking what race all those slaves are...[[/note]]
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* NoTrueScotsman: Due to his origins, none of the other Daedric Princes consider him to be a "True" Daedra.
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* NoTrueScotsman: Due to his origins, none of the other Daedric Princes consider him to be a "True" Daedra. Ambiguously [[SubvertedTrope Subverted]], however, as they may technically be right, depending on the exact nature of Et'Ada spirits and the details of what exactly was involved in Boethia "eating" him.
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* AmbiguousSituation: His artifact is The Sanguine Rose, a rose-looking staff-sized object that allows one to summon a dremora. It's never made clear if this object is supposed to be a staff-sized rose or a rose-looking staff.
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* AmbiguousSituation: His artifact is The Sanguine Sanguine's Rose, a rose-looking staff-sized object that allows one to summon a dremora.Dremora. It's never made clear if this object is supposed to be a staff-sized rose or a rose-looking staff.
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* AmbiguousSituation: His artifact is The Sanguine Rose, a rose-looking staff-sized object that allows one to summon a dremora. It's never made clear if this object is supposed to be a staff-sized rose or a rose-looking staff.
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according to what I've read, that act was an entorely consensual bout of sweaty gay sex
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* DoubleStandardRapeMaleOnMale: Completely averted. We know he has at least one male victim (Vivec), and the whole thing is treated as suitably horrifying.
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* GoodPowersBadPeople: [[DownplayedTrope Downplayed]]. None of his domains are activley ''good'' per se, but when one thinks about it, destruction, ambition, change, and revolution are all vital to the functioning of any society.
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* TheHorseshoeEffect: The Morag Tong, a legal Dunmeri [[MurderInc assassin's guild]], is dedicated to Mephala. The Dark Brotherhood, a criminal offshoot of the Morag Tong, is dedicated to the service of Sithis and the Night Mother. Both are MurderInc[=/=]ProfessionalKiller organizations. According to some sources, the Night Mother may very well be an aspect of Mephala, meaning that both groups, despite their differences, are still dedicated to the same deity.
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Not acknowledged in-universe, deleting
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* NotSoDifferentRemark: The Morag Tong, a legal Dunmeri [[MurderInc assassin's guild]], is dedicated to Mephala. The Dark Brotherhood, a criminal offshoot of the Morag Tong, is dedicated to the service of Sithis and the Night Mother. According to some sources, the Night Mother may very well be an aspect of Mephala, meaning that both groups, despite their differences, are still dedicated to the same deity.
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* NotSoDifferentRemark: The Morag Tong, a legal Dunmeri [[MurderInc assassin's guild]], is dedicated to Mephala. The Dark Brotherhood, a criminal offshoot of the Morag Tong, is dedicated to the service of Sithis and the Night Mother. According to some sources, the Night Mother may very well be an aspect of Mephala, meaning that both groups, despite their differences, are still dedicated to the same deity.
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dewicking Not So Different
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* NotSoDifferent: As noted in the above entry, his quirks make him just as insane as Sheogorath.
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* NotSoDifferent: NotSoDifferentRemark: As noted in the above entry, his quirks make him just as insane as Sheogorath.
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* NotSoDifferent: The Morag Tong, a legal Dunmeri [[MurderInc assassin's guild]], is dedicated to Mephala. The Dark Brotherhood, a criminal offshoot of the Morag Tong, is dedicated to the service of Sithis and the Night Mother. According to some sources, the Night Mother may very well be an aspect of Mephala, meaning that both groups, despite their differences, are still dedicated to the same deity.
