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* EdtablishingCharacterMoment: When Rush and Eli's attempt to dial the stargate on Icarus once again ends in failure, Young orders the gate to be powered down. When Rush starts to complain about this, Young glares at him and tells him that the safety of the base's personnel is his number one concern. This displays the differences in outlook between the two men, setting the stage for their later conflicts.
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* EdtablishingCharacterMoment: EstablishingCharacterMoment: When Rush and Eli's attempt to dial the stargate on Icarus once again ends in failure, Young orders the gate to be powered down. When Rush starts to complain about this, Young glares at him and tells him that the safety of the base's personnel is his number one concern. This displays the differences in outlook between the two men, setting the stage for their later conflicts.
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* EdtablishingCharacterMoment: When Rush and Eli's attempt to dial the stargate on Icarus once again ends in failure, Young orders the gate to be powered down. When Rush starts to complain about this, Young glares at him and tells him that the safety of the base's personnel is his number one concern.
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* EdtablishingCharacterMoment: When Rush and Eli's attempt to dial the stargate on Icarus once again ends in failure, Young orders the gate to be powered down. When Rush starts to complain about this, Young glares at him and tells him that the safety of the base's personnel is his number one concern. This displays the differences in outlook between the two men, setting the stage for their later conflicts.
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* EdtablishingCharacterMoment: When Rush and Eli's attempt to dial the stargate on Icarus once again ends in failure, Young orders the gate to be powered down. When Rush starts to complain about this, Young glares at him and tells him that the safety of the base's personnel is his number one concern.
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* NiceGuy: He is a genuinely compassionate man who just wants to get the people he's leading back to their loved ones.
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* MrExposition: His primary role in the show, as their resident expert on Ancient technology. The crew openly discuss this in "Darkness", wondering if Rush is just that much smarter than everyone else, or if he is simply making educated guesses.
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* TheResenter: He admits to his wife in "Human" that he feels this way about BrilliantButLazy Eli, who's natural talents at mathematics and advanced science put his hard-won position to shame. The fact that Eli stumbled into the Icarus Project and solved the power problem that stymied Rush for months doesn't help.
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* HiddenDepths: As early as "Light" he established himself as more than just a jarhead with a chip on his shoulder. His Kino message about their impending destruction was quite poetic.
-->Greer: "I can't think of a better way to move on from - from this world into the next, or whatever comes, than to fly into the most powerful thing in all creation ... a star. Out in a blaze of glory. I like that...that's beautiful."
-->Greer: "I can't think of a better way to move on from - from this world into the next, or whatever comes, than to fly into the most powerful thing in all creation ... a star. Out in a blaze of glory. I like that...that's beautiful."
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**His {{KickTheDog}} moment sets off the whole plot , when he decides to maroon a collected group of untrained civilians and unprepared military in unknown space because he did not want to miss his chance to get onto the Destiny .
** Hid the fact he had found a secret control room on Destiny allowing more control of the ship from the crew, leading to Hunters death. He gets called out regarding this.
** Frames the Commander for murder , leading to almost open conflict between civilians and the military.
** Hid the fact he had found a secret control room on Destiny allowing more control of the ship from the crew, leading to Hunters death. He gets called out regarding this.
** Frames the Commander for murder , leading to almost open conflict between civilians and the military.
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* JerkassDissonance: A number of fans actually think Rush would be a better leader than Young due to his [[TheUnfettered lack of restrictions]] when acting for the greater good and the amount of NotSoDifferent between the two.
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* JerkassDissonance: A number of fans actually think Rush would be a better leader than Young due to his [[TheUnfettered lack of restrictions]] when acting for the greater good and the amount of NotSoDifferent between the two. However this is proven wrong in series two when in becomes clear cares more about the Destiny mission then the crew themselves. After he volunteered to stay behind with the malfunctioning sleeper pod in the series finale. The rest of the crew decided against it because they had no doubt he would sacrifice others to buy himself more time. That and his actions leading to the marooning of inexperienced crew intentionally in unknown space in the Pilot Lead to him being the considered the [[TokenEvilTeammate crazy , evil uncle in the SGU family.]] Even the rest of the [[BlackComedy team can find humor in it .]]
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* IJustWantToBeSpecial: She wants to be a part of Destiny's mission to give her fathers death a reason. So even though she's probably the last person that would be useful on the ship (alien knowledge later changes that), she tries her best and even volunteers to stay on the ship when the option to return home becomes available.
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* IJustWantToBeSpecial: She wants to be a part of Destiny's mission to give her fathers father's death a reason. So even though she's probably the last person that would be useful on the ship (alien knowledge later changes that), she tries her best and even volunteers to stay on the ship when the option to return home becomes available.
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Badass is no longer a trope.
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* BadAss: Kills one of the catfish aliens with his bare hands, rescues Chloe, and gets them both safely back to Destiny.
** In ''Subversion'', Kiva assumes he's military because she doesn't believe a civilian could withstand torture for that long.
** In ''Subversion'', Kiva assumes he's military because she doesn't believe a civilian could withstand torture for that long.
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* {{Badass}}: The guy rarely has to show it in action because noone dares to fuck with him in the first place. Examples include Simeon and Telford.
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* BadAss: When he wanted to [[spoiler:silence Ginn]], he ended up killing three people ([[spoiler:including Ginn]]), wounded four others, escaped the ship, and evaded around a dozen people tracking him for the better part of a day.
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* RomanticFalseLead: Is introduced having sex with Scott, and pines for him. He eventually settles down with Chloe, and she's not happy about it. She's also had a bit of ship tease with Eli, of all people. Again, nothing came of it.
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* Acrofatic: He's noted to be quite overweight. Still, he holds his own quite well any time something has to be done, even if it involves combat or physical exercise. To wit, he's been shown to be able to keep up with Ronald Greer, he's basically run from one side of Destiny to the other in a matter of minutes, and was originally one of those who held out the longest in both episodes "air" and "time," as well as managed to avoid capture when the Lucian Alliance came to Destiny. Considering he has practically no military training, this is mighty impressive.
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* Acrofatic: {{Acrofatic}}: He's noted to be quite overweight. Still, he holds his own quite well any time something has to be done, even if it involves combat or physical exercise. To wit, he's been shown to be able to keep up with Ronald Greer, he's basically run from one side of Destiny to the other in a matter of minutes, and was originally one of those who held out the longest in both episodes "air" and "time," as well as managed to avoid capture when the Lucian Alliance came to Destiny. Considering he has practically no military training, this is mighty impressive.
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* Acrofatic: He's noted to be quite overweight. Still, he holds his own quite well any time something has to be done, even if it involves combat or physical exercise. To wit, he's been shown to be able to keep up with Ronald Greer, he's basically run from one side of Destiny to the other in a matter of minutes, and was originally one of those who held out the longest in both episodes "air" and "time," as well as managed to avoid capture when the Lucian Alliance came to Destiny. Considering he has practically no military training, this is mighty impressive.
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* DeathSeeker: In the pilot, he was so desperate to escape Destiny, that he was willing to strand Scott, Eli, Greer, and everyone who was looking for lime to use on the ship's CO2 scrubbers, not to mention doom the crew on Destiny to a slow death of asphyxiation, and had to be shot. As the series progressed, he grew only more and more angry and desperate until the he learned about "the chair" and happily used that device that he '''knew''' is deadly dangerous, twice.
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* DeconstructedCharacterArchetype: Like Jack O'Neill in the movie, Young is depressed/suicidal and struggling with personal problems. Unlike movie O'Neill, these things actually impact his ability to do his job.
* DescentIntoAddiction: His decision to turn away from alcohol as an increasing crutch lampshaded in 'Trial and Error.' After which he starts to recover.
* DynamicCharacter: Young ends the series much quieter, more cooperative and less overwhelmingly military than he was when he started.
* DescentIntoAddiction: His decision to turn away from alcohol as an increasing crutch lampshaded in 'Trial and Error.' After which he starts to recover.
* DynamicCharacter: Young ends the series much quieter, more cooperative and less overwhelmingly military than he was when he started.
* ExperiencedProtagonist
* TheQuietOne - with a touch of DeadpanSnarker on occasion.
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* TraumaCongaLine: Let's see: [[spoiler:his unborn kid is dead, he had to MercyKill someone under his command, and now Telford has been lost]]. You can hardly blame him for hitting the bottle again and again.
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* TraumaCongaLine: Let's see: [[spoiler:his [[spoiler:he's just been divorced, his unborn kid is dead, he had to MercyKill someone under his command, and now Telford has been lost]]. You can hardly blame him for hitting the bottle again and again.again.
* MartyrWithoutACause: Much happier with volunteering to die himself than with risking anyone else, particularly those he cares about.
* MiseryBuildsCharacter: Comes out of his trauma conga line a more humbled character.
* MartyrWithoutACause: Much happier with volunteering to die himself than with risking anyone else, particularly those he cares about.
* MiseryBuildsCharacter: Comes out of his trauma conga line a more humbled character.
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* RagnarokProofing: Considering it's held up for several million plus years, it's amazing that it's only now starting to break down.
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* RagnarokProofing: Considering it's held up for several over sixty million plus years, it's amazing that it's only now starting to break down.
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** First and foremost, his dialing the ninth Chevron in the pilot. He did it because he wanted to know where it went, and by all accounts still doesn't care that it stranded everyone on the other side of the universe.
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Berserk Button misuse. It\'s not something that happens only once, it has to inspire rage and not simply irritation, and it\'s not something that would piss off anyone.
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* BerserkButton: Making fun of his {{Claustrophobia}}, insinuating he has DaddyIssues and insulting [[UndyingLoyalty Colonel Young]].
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* BerserkButton: Hates that the crew have come to nickname the Control Interface as "The Applecore"... or "APLCR Unit"
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!! '''Simeon''' (Robert Knepper)
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!! '''Simeon''' (Robert Knepper)(Creator/RobertKnepper)
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* AscendedFanboy: Eli was a fan of an online game loosely based on the {{vaporware}} ''VideoGame/StargateWorlds'' game (which in-universe was probably based off of ''Wormhole X-Treme!''). Plus, he's an avowed science fiction geek who makes constant references and shows the most genuine glee about being on a spaceship.
** PromotedFanboy: Eli's actor was already a fan of ''Stargate'' before joining the show. The producers call him an actor and technical advisor in one package.
** PromotedFanboy: Eli's actor was already a fan of ''Stargate'' before joining the show. The producers call him an actor and technical advisor in one package.
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* AscendedFanboy: Eli was a fan of played an online game loosely based on the {{vaporware}} ''VideoGame/StargateWorlds'' game (which in-universe was probably based off of ''Wormhole X-Treme!''). Plus, he's an avowed science fiction geek who makes constant references and shows the most genuine glee about being on a spaceship.
** PromotedFanboy: Eli's actor was already a fan of ''Stargate'' before joining the show. The producers call him an actor and technicaladvisor adviser in one package.
** PromotedFanboy: Eli's actor was already a fan of ''Stargate'' before joining the show. The producers call him an actor and technical
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* BreakTheCutie: [[spoiler:his mother's condition is getting worse, his girlfriend was StuffedIntoTheFridge, one of his best friends / ex-LoveInterest is slowly turning into... something alien and he (as a civilian) has lost plenty of comrades / friends.]] Quite a TraumaCongaLine he has there.
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* BreakTheCutie: [[spoiler:his His mother's condition is getting worse, his girlfriend was StuffedIntoTheFridge, one of his best friends / ex-LoveInterest is slowly turning into... something alien and he (as a civilian) has lost plenty of comrades / friends.]] Quite a TraumaCongaLine he has there.
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* MsFanservice: Even more so than Chloe. She is normally the first example that fans bring up when accusing this series of falling into the same trap that {{Franchise/StarTrekEnterprise}} fell into; namely the one where the creative staff have decided that DarkerAndEdgier means ''needs more half-naked women.''
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* MsFanservice: Even more so than Chloe. She is normally the first example that fans bring up when accusing this series of falling into the same trap that {{Franchise/StarTrekEnterprise}} fell into; namely the one where the creative staff have decided deciding that DarkerAndEdgier means ''needs more half-naked women.''
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I don\'t know what to make of that. Sentience is a very low standard and is a prerequisite for sapience. That sentence doesn\'t make any sense. The example can stand alone without an explanation, I suppose.
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* SapientShip: It displays sapience, but not true sentience.
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* SapientShip: It displays sapience, but not true sentience.SapientShip
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* MsFanservice: Even more so than Chloe.
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* MsFanservice: Even more so than Chloe. She is normally the first example that fans bring up when accusing this series of falling into the same trap that {{Franchise/StarTrekEnterprise}} fell into; namely the one where the creative staff have decided that DarkerAndEdgier means ''needs more half-naked women.''
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* AscendedFanboy: Eli was a fan of an online game loosely based on the in DevelopmentHell ''StargateWorlds'' game (which in-universe was probably based off of ''Wormhole X-Treme''). Plus, he's an avowed science fiction geek who makes constant references and shows the most genuine glee about being on a spaceship.
** PromotedFanboy: Eli's actor was already a fan of Stargate before joining the show. The producers call him an actor and technical advisor in one package.
** PromotedFanboy: Eli's actor was already a fan of Stargate before joining the show. The producers call him an actor and technical advisor in one package.
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* AscendedFanboy: Eli was a fan of an online game loosely based on the in DevelopmentHell ''StargateWorlds'' {{vaporware}} ''VideoGame/StargateWorlds'' game (which in-universe was probably based off of ''Wormhole X-Treme'').X-Treme!''). Plus, he's an avowed science fiction geek who makes constant references and shows the most genuine glee about being on a spaceship.
** PromotedFanboy: Eli's actor was already a fan ofStargate ''Stargate'' before joining the show. The producers call him an actor and technical advisor in one package.
** PromotedFanboy: Eli's actor was already a fan of
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Runs the mess hall, more or less, and as a result is the go-to guy for meals and making alien food palpable.
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Runs the mess hall, more or less, and as a result is the go-to guy for meals and making alien food palpable.palatable.
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* [[spoiler: FutureMeScaresMe: In "Twin Destinies", his interaction with Future!Rush demonstrates that he doesn't even trust ''himself''.]]
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* [[spoiler: OtherMeScaresMe: In "Twin Destinies", his interaction with Future!Rush demonstrates that he doesn't even trust ''himself''.]]
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* [[spoiler: DownWithTheShip: Future!Rush elects to stay behind on the alternate ''Destiny'', when it's about to be destroyed.]]
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* TheChessmaster: It's very rare for him ''not'' to- be plotting ''something''.
* ConsummateLiar: He doesn't even skip a heartbeat to liar in normal conversation. And he's so good, he can even fool himself!
* ConsummateLiar: He doesn't even skip a heartbeat to liar in normal conversation. And he's so good, he can even fool himself!
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* TheChessmaster: It's very rare for him ''not'' to- to be plotting ''something''.
* ConsummateLiar: He doesn't even skip a heartbeat toliar lie in normal conversation. And he's so good, he can even fool himself!
* ConsummateLiar: He doesn't even skip a heartbeat to
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[[DisabledLoveInterest Quadriplegic]] [[HotScientist physicist]] on Earth; joins the crew via the communication stones in a number of episodes to work on the ship's drive. LoveInterest to Rush (whose nickname for her is "[[MrMen Little Miss Brilliant]]. [[spoiler: NOT KilledOffForReal along with Ginn by Simeon. Since she was killed while connected to another body via the stones, her consciousness stuck in the ether, then linked to Chloe and was downloaded to Destiny. Yes, it's quite a MindScrew.]]
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[[DisabledLoveInterest Quadriplegic]] [[HotScientist physicist]] on Earth; joins the crew via the communication stones in a number of episodes to work on the ship's drive. LoveInterest to Rush (whose nickname for her is "[[MrMen "[[Literature/MrMen Little Miss Brilliant]].Brilliant]]"). [[spoiler: NOT KilledOffForReal along with Ginn by Simeon. Since she was killed while connected to another body via the stones, her consciousness stuck in the ether, then linked to Chloe and was downloaded to Destiny. Yes, it's quite a MindScrew.]]
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!! '''Dr. Nicholas Rush''' (Robert Carlyle)
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!! '''Dr. Nicholas Rush''' (Robert Carlyle)(Creator/RobertCarlyle)
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* TookALevelInBadass: Now he's the leader of Homeworld Security, he makes it clear he'll do ''anything'' to protect Earth.
** Most fan forget that O'Neill spent most of the 80's performing ''Black Ops'' work.
** Most fan forget that O'Neill spent most of the 80's performing ''Black Ops'' work.
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* TookALevelInBadass: Now he's the leader of Homeworld Security, he makes it clear he'll do ''anything'' ''[[GoodIsNotNice anything]]'' to protect Earth.
** Mostfan fans forget that O'Neill spent most of the 80's performing ''Black Ops'' work.
** Most
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* WhatYouAreInTheDark: In "Divided", after waiting to the last possible minute to allow the transfer to complete on it's own, he cancels it and lets Eli restore the docking clamps on the Ancient Shuttle, saving Young and Scott from being vaporised when the ship jumps to FTL.
