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** While Sheppard was by no means a CelibateHero, Ryder can have AGirlInEveryPort and unlike Shepard has the option to flirt with characters even if they are an IncompatibleOrientation.

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** While Sheppard Shepard was by no means a CelibateHero, Ryder can have AGirlInEveryPort and unlike Shepard has the option to flirt with characters even if they are an IncompatibleOrientation.
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* ContrastingSequelMainCharacter: Whereas Commander Shepard was an experienced and decorated officer at the beginning of the first game, Ryder is described as being much more inexperienced and untested. Additionally, Shepard is a decorated war hero by the time of the first game, while the Ryders were blacklisted due to Alec's highly illegal research on AI. It's played up with their physiques - their heads are significantly larger proportionate to the rest of them than Shepard's was, making them [[http://i.imgur.com/JRcphAy.jpg look shorter, scrawnier, and less imposing]].[[labelnote:Explanation]]Using the height of a character's head, "superheroes" are nine "heads" tall while "regular" characters are 7.5 heads tall, so Shepard's proportions make them seem to tower over the Ryder siblings.[[/labelnote]]

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* ContrastingSequelMainCharacter: Whereas Commander Shepard was an experienced and decorated officer at the beginning of the first game, Ryder is described as being much more inexperienced and untested. Additionally, Shepard is a decorated war hero by the time of the first game, while the Ryders were blacklisted due to Alec's highly illegal research on AI. It's played up with their physiques - their heads are significantly larger proportionate to the rest of them than Shepard's was, making them [[http://i.[[https://i.imgur.com/JRcphAy.jpg com/JRcphAy_d.webp?maxwidth=640&shape=thumb&fidelity=medium look shorter, scrawnier, and less imposing]].[[labelnote:Explanation]]Using the height of a character's head, "superheroes" are nine "heads" tall while "regular" characters are 7.5 heads tall, so Shepard's proportions make them seem to tower over the Ryder siblings.[[/labelnote]]

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%%* AmazonChaser: the male Ryder if he chooses to flirt with/romance [[spoiler: physically imposing female characters such as Cora or Vetra]]. Also applies to the female Ryder if she chooses to flirt with/romance [[spoiler: Vetra, or unsuccessfully attempts to do so with Cora]].

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%%* * AmazonChaser: the male Ryder if he chooses can choose to flirt with/romance [[spoiler: and even romance physically imposing female characters strong women such as Cora or Vetra]]. Also applies to the female Ryder and Vetra if she chooses to flirt with/romance [[spoiler: Vetra, or unsuccessfully attempts to do so with Cora]].they desire, though Cora is only a romance option for a male Ryder.



** Public opinion between the two characters differs as their stories progress: Shepard is seen as a model soldier, and their appointment into the [=SpecTRe=] program is met with near-universal approval. Once they die, and are resurrected two years later, much of the galactic community see their disappearance as a betrayal, and a lot of work has to be done to build bridges. Ryder is greeted with a lot of scorn once they are appointed Pathfinder, as they are seen as a pretender to the role. But as they build settlements and gain allies, Ryder grows more of a reputation, and by the end, they are acknowledged with nothing but praise from damn near everyone they meet.

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** Public opinion between the two characters differs as their stories progress: Shepard is seen as a model soldier, and their appointment into the [=SpecTRe=] Spectre program is met with near-universal approval. Once they die, and are resurrected two years later, much of the galactic community see their disappearance as a betrayal, and a lot of work has to be done to build bridges. Ryder is greeted with a lot of scorn once they are appointed Pathfinder, as they are seen as a pretender to the role. But as they build settlements and gain allies, Ryder grows more of a reputation, and by the end, they are acknowledged with nothing but praise from damn near everyone they meet.meet.
** While Sheppard was by no means a CelibateHero, Ryder can have AGirlInEveryPort and unlike Shepard has the option to flirt with characters even if they are an IncompatibleOrientation.



* TheImmodestOrgasm: At least according to a romanced Jaal.

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* TheImmodestOrgasm: At least Sara is this according to a romanced Jaal.


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* IntergenerationalFriendship: Drack is around 1400 years old, Peebee is around 100 though in Asari standards that makes her the same age as Ryder and Lexi is 275 years old.
* InterspeciesFriendship: Ryder becomes a good friend to Lexi (who they can flirt with though she turns them down), Drack and Kallo. Also to any alien character that Ryder doesn't flirt with or try to romance.
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They state 1.72 meters which rounds closer to 5'8. Subversion means set up by the narrative as X only for it to surprise up otherwise, not the case if this wasn't rivaled/brought up in-work.


* PintSizedPowerhouse: Subverted. Sara appears to be the shortest crewmember other than Peebee (Suvi, Cora and Vetra tower over her), but the developers stated on Twitter that she is 5'7, so it's less that Sara is tiny and more that all of her female crewmates are unusually tall.

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* PintSizedPowerhouse: Subverted. Sara appears to be the shortest crewmember other than Peebee (Suvi, Cora and Vetra tower over her), but the her). The developers [[https://twitter.com/mrjoelmac/status/833788228079595521 stated on Twitter Twitter]] that she is 5'7, about 5'8, so it's less that Sara is tiny and more that all of her female crewmates are unusually tall.
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* LikesOlderWomen: Cora Harper is assumed to be between twenty-seven and thirty-two years old, while Scott is canonically twenty-two. Downplayed with Peebee who, while roughly one hundred years old, is around Ryder’s age by Asari standards.
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* DeadpanSnarker: Unlike Shepard, who was only this if the player chose, Ryder always is this. They will quip and joke without the player's input. Choosing the bottom left responses on the dialogue wheel turns this UpToEleven to the point that several characters (including some squad mates) will call Ryder out on not taking anything seriously even when shit's really hit the fan. (A few irreverent response options will even terminate discussions that otherwise would trigger side-missions.)

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* DeadpanSnarker: Unlike Shepard, who was only this if the player chose, Ryder always is this. They will quip and joke without the player's input. Choosing the bottom left responses on the dialogue wheel turns this UpToEleven up a notch to the point that several characters (including some squad mates) will call Ryder out on not taking anything seriously even when shit's really hit the fan. (A few irreverent response options will even terminate discussions that otherwise would trigger side-missions.)
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* NoJustNoReaction: If romancing Jaal, Ryder can respond this way when Lexi asks them for details ForScience.
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* GoodIsNotNice: [[spoiler:Depending on the player's choices, Ryder can blow the Cardinal and Akksul's heads open, or shoot Kalindra and send her plummeting into the lava below.]] Even if the high road is taken in those encounters, Ryder's job requires killing lots of people to protect the initiative and he/she is comfortable with that fact.

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* GoodIsNotNice: [[spoiler:Depending on the player's choices, Ryder can blow the Cardinal and Akksul's heads open, or shoot Kalindra and send her plummeting into the lava below.]] Even if the high road is taken in those encounters, Ryder's job requires killing lots of people to protect the initiative initiative, and he/she is they are comfortable with that fact.



* KleptomaniacHero: In fine franchise tradition, Ryder can and probably will loot everything that isn't nailed down, regardless of where (s)he is. One scene on [[WretchedHive Kadara]] has Ryder come across two looters stealing from a corpse, and Ryder can attempt to take the moral high ground by saying [[{{Hypocrite}} "Looting is wrong."]]. The two looters [[TakeThatAudience just laugh at you]] and continue about their business.

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* KleptomaniacHero: In fine franchise tradition, Ryder can and probably will loot everything that isn't nailed down, regardless of where (s)he is.they are. One scene on [[WretchedHive Kadara]] has Ryder come across two looters stealing from a corpse, and Ryder can attempt to take the moral high ground by saying [[{{Hypocrite}} "Looting is wrong."]]. The two looters [[TakeThatAudience just laugh at you]] and continue about their business.



* {{Transhuman}}: Ryder can be physiologically augmented by an AI with whom s/he has a QEC interface in the brain. These augmentations are called Profiles.

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* {{Transhuman}}: Ryder can be physiologically augmented by an AI with whom s/he has they have a QEC interface in the brain. These augmentations are called Profiles.
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** Public opinion between the two characters differs as their stories progress: Shepard is seen as a model soldier, and their appointment into the [=SpecTRe=] program is met with near-universal approval. Once they die, and are resurrected two years later, much of the galactic community see their disappearance as a betrayal, and a lot of work has to be done to build bridges. Ryder is greeted with a lot of scorn once they are appointed Pathfinder, as they are seen as a pretender to the role. But as they build settlements and gain allies, Ryder grows more of a reputation, and by the end, they are acknowledged with nothing but praise from damn near everyone they meet.
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* PintSizedPowerhouse: Sara appears to be the shortest crewmember other than Peebee (Suvi, Cora and Vetra tower over her).

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* PintSizedPowerhouse: Subverted. Sara appears to be the shortest crewmember other than Peebee (Suvi, Cora and Vetra tower over her).her), but the developers stated on Twitter that she is 5'7, so it's less that Sara is tiny and more that all of her female crewmates are unusually tall.
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* EatingTheEyeCandy: During the sex scenes, of course. Male Ryder in particular is shown to be a butt man, as he gropes Cora/Peebee's behind in their respective sex scenes (and the former is featured front and center on the screen)
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* TeleportSpam: Ryder has access to three variants: The returning Biotic Charge from previous games, the Explorer profile's Biotic Blink evade move, and finally the Asari Huntress sword, which has a short-range teleport as part of it's attack. The latter two are particularly rife for spamming as they don't have a cool-down.

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* TeleportSpam: Ryder has access to three variants: The returning Biotic Charge from previous games, the Explorer profile's Biotic Blink evade move, and finally the Asari Huntress sword, which has a short-range teleport as part of it's its attack. The latter two are particularly rife for spamming as they don't have a cool-down.
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-->'''Ryder:''' [[{{Understatement}} Well...if you put it like that...]]

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-->'''Ryder:''' --->'''Ryder:''' [[{{Understatement}} Well...if you put it like that...]]
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-->'''Ryder:''' Am I unlucky in general?
-->'''Jaal:''' I... don't know what to say about that.
-->'''Ryder:''' It's possible, right? It could even be genetic.
-->'''Liam:''' You should probably talk to Lexi about that.
-->'''Ryder:''' I'd rather not.

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-->'''Ryder:''' Am I unlucky in general?
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general?\\
'''Jaal:'''
I... don't know what to say about that.
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that.\\
'''Ryder:'''
It's possible, right? It could even be genetic.
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genetic.\\
'''Liam:'''
You should probably talk to Lexi about that.
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that.\\
'''Ryder:'''
I'd rather not.



* CanonName: The default names for the characters are Scott and Sara. So canon, in fact, that the defaults are actually used in the game if left alone.

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* CanonName: The default names for the characters are Scott and Sara. So canon, in fact, that the defaults are actually used in spoken conversation in the game if left alone.
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* ContrastingSequelMainCharacter: Whereas Commander Shepard was an experienced and decorated officer at the beginning of the first game, Ryder is described as being much more inexperienced and untested. It's played up with their physiques - their heads are significantly larger proportionate to the rest of them than Shepard's was, making them [[http://i.imgur.com/JRcphAy.jpg look shorter, scrawnier, and less imposing]].[[labelnote:Explanation]]Using the height of a character's head, "superheroes" are nine "heads" tall while "regular" characters are 7.5 heads tall, so Shepard's proportions make them seem to tower over the Ryder siblings.[[/labelnote]]

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* ContrastingSequelMainCharacter: Whereas Commander Shepard was an experienced and decorated officer at the beginning of the first game, Ryder is described as being much more inexperienced and untested. Additionally, Shepard is a decorated war hero by the time of the first game, while the Ryders were blacklisted due to Alec's highly illegal research on AI. It's played up with their physiques - their heads are significantly larger proportionate to the rest of them than Shepard's was, making them [[http://i.imgur.com/JRcphAy.jpg look shorter, scrawnier, and less imposing]].[[labelnote:Explanation]]Using the height of a character's head, "superheroes" are nine "heads" tall while "regular" characters are 7.5 heads tall, so Shepard's proportions make them seem to tower over the Ryder siblings.[[/labelnote]]
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* YoungerAndHipper: Mac Walters designed Ryder with the intention to have them be more relatable to the game's target audience, at least in comparison to Commander Shepard. Rather than being a weathered, experienced military commander, Ryder's a comparatively green soldier who has yet to earn their place.

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* YoungerAndHipper: Mac Walters designed Ryder with the intention to have them be more relatable to the game's target audience, at least in comparison to 29 to 31 year old Commander Shepard. Rather than being a weathered, experienced military commander, Ryder's a comparatively green soldier soldier, 22 years old, who has yet to earn their place.
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[[center: [- [[Characters/MassEffect Main Character Index]] | [[Characters/MassEffectCommanderShepard Commander Shepard]] | [[Characters/MassEffect1PartyMembers Party 1 Members]] | [[Characters/MassEffectKaidanAlenko Kaidan Alenko]] | [[Characters/MassEffectAshleyWilliams Ashley Williams]] | [[Characters/MassEffectGarrusVakarian Garrus Vakarian]] | [[Characters/MassEffectLiaraTSoni Liara T'Soni]] | [[Characters/MassEffectTaliZorah Tali'Zorah]] | [[Characters/MassEffectUrdnotWrex Urdnot Wrex]] | [[Characters/MassEffect1Antagonists Mass Effect 1 Antagonists]] | [[Characters/MassEffect1Npcs Mass Effect 1 NPCs]] | [[Characters/MassEffect2EarlyPartyMembers Early Party 2 Members]] | [[Characters/MassEffect2LatePartyMembers Late Party 2 Members]] | [[Characters/MassEffect2SecretPartyMembers Mass Effect 2 Secret Party Members]] | [[MassEffect2AntagonistsAndNpcs/MainAntagonists Mass Effect 2 Main Antagonists]] | [[MassEffect2AntagonistsAndNpcs/SecondaryAntagonists Mass Effect 2 Secondary Antagonists]] | [[MassEffect2AntagonistsAndNpcs/NormandyCrew Normandy Crew]] | [[MassEffect2AntagonistsAndNpcs/CouncilSpace Mass Effect 2 Council Space NPCs]] | [[MassEffect2AntagonistsAndNpcs/NonCouncilSpace Mass Effect 2 Non Council Space NPCs]] | [[Characters/MassEffect3PartyMembers Party 3 Members]] | [[Characters/MassEffect3AntagonistsAndNpcs Mass Effect 3 Antagonists and NPCs]] | [[Characters/MassEffect3MultiplayerCharacters Mass Effect 3 Multiplayer Characters]] | '''Pathfinder Ryder''' | [[Characters/MassEffectAndromedaPartyMembers Party Andromeda Members]] | [[Characters/MassEffectAndromedaCrewOfTheTempest Crew of the Tempest]] | [[Characters/MassEffectAndromedaTheAndromedaInitiative The Andromeda Initiative]] | [[Characters/MassEffectAndromedaTheKett The Kett]] | [[Characters/MassEffectAndromedaTheAngara The Angara]] | [[Characters/MassEffectAndromedaOtherCharacters Andromeda Other Characters]] | [[Characters/MassEffectAndromedaMultiplayerCharacters Multiplayer Characters]]]]-]

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* {{Adorkable}}: Sara Ryder is so awkward while flirting she can give Samantha Traynor a run for her money. She also makes terrible jokes.



* BookDumb: Ryder is basically scientifically illiterate, and needs SAM to explain even basic concepts. The scientist characters have a hard time taking them seriously as a result.
** Though some of the more "Logical" dialogue choices can have Ryder show surprising knowledge, like explaining in detail to Jaal how the human eye works (Sara), or explaining the existence of vestigial organs (Scott).



* DorkKnight: Sara Ryder is so awkward while flirting she can give Samantha Traynor a run for her money. She also makes terrible jokes.



* ItRunsInTheFamily: Their father, Alec, was one of the first humans to travel through a mass relay with Jon Grissom's exploration team, and later became an N7 soldier. Clearly, the apple doesn't fall far from the tree when it comes to his children being pioneers and badasses. On a less badass note, Sara has apparently inherited her dad's terrible flirting skills.

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* ItRunsInTheFamily: Their father, Alec, was one of the first humans to travel through a mass relay with Jon Grissom's exploration team, and later became an N7 soldier. Clearly, the apple doesn't fall far from the tree when it comes to his children being pioneers and badasses. On a less badass note, Sara has apparently inherited her dad's terrible flirting skills. The stone-cold determination, however, comes from both parents.
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* YourCheatingHeart: Implied with your "shore leave" romances (Keri T'Vessa and Avela Kjar). In particular, Avela and Keri resign themselves to being Ryder's "mistress"--a lover to look forward to as an escape from ''Tempest'' life, and during her date with Ryder, Keri even tells a romanced Ryder she's watching the door to make sure their partner doesn't catch them. No negative consequences occur for this game, though. Ryders of both genders can also engage in (repeated) casual flings with Peebee even while progressing through other romances, though this ends once Ryder reaches the commitment point in another relationship.
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* BadassGay: Or "Badass Bisexual" A male Ryder romancing Jaal, Gil or Reyes, or a female Ryder romancing Peebee, Vetra or Suvi.

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* HelmetsAreHardlyHeroic: ZigZagged: Wearing a helmet is optional on all combat and away missions, not just the ones in inhospitable environsm (though the benefits of a helmet remain in place). The helmet will vanish regardless during any cutscene or conversation not taking place in a hostile atmosphere.

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* HelmetsAreHardlyHeroic: ZigZagged: Wearing a helmet is optional on all combat and away missions, not just the ones in inhospitable environsm environments (though the benefits of a helmet remain in place). The helmet will vanish regardless during any cutscene or conversation not taking place in a hostile atmosphere.


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* ICantDance: Much like Shepard before them, Ryder can do almost anything... but even with AI assistance, dancing is ''not'' one of those things. More alarmingly, they actually seem to dance better when completely blitzed on a GargleBlaster than sober...
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** In-game it's possible to set up whomever the female Ryder chooses to commit to as her "second love" if flirtation and romance with Reyes continues [[spoiler: up to the point where he murders Sloane; after this Ryder can either commit to Reyes or break it off in disgust over his actions]].

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** In-game it's possible to set up whomever the female Ryder chooses to commit to as her "second love" if flirtation and romance with Reyes continues [[spoiler: up to the point where he murders Sloane; after this Ryder can either commit to Reyes or break it off in disgust over his actions]]. actions; if Ryder instead opts to rescue Sloane from Reyes' ambush, the romance is broken off in a more...violent fashion when it becomes clear Reyes and Ryder are no longer on the same side.]]
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** [[spoiler:Leaving the salarian Pathfinder to die in favour of rescuing the krogan. Her replacement will harbour no grudge, only noting that her death will demoralise the salarians, but without ascribing any blame toward Ryder.]]

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** [[spoiler:Leaving the salarian Salarian Pathfinder to die in favour of rescuing the krogan. Her replacement will harbour no grudge, only noting that her death will demoralise the salarians, Salarians, but without ascribing any blame toward Ryder.Ryder. It helps, however, that the Salarian Pathfinder made it fully clear in her final transmission she intended to [[HeroicSacrifice sacrifice herself]] so Ryder and the Krogans could escape, meaning she had never expected to be rescued anyways.]]
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* YoungerAndHipper: Mac Walters designed Ryder with the intention to have them be more relatable to the game's target audience, at least in comparison to Commander Shepard.

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* YoungerAndHipper: Mac Walters designed Ryder with the intention to have them be more relatable to the game's target audience, at least in comparison to Commander Shepard. Rather than being a weathered, experienced military commander, Ryder's a comparatively green soldier who has yet to earn their place.
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* YoungerAndHipper: Mac Walters designed Ryder with the intention to have them be more relatable to the game's target audience, at least in comparison to Commander Shepard.
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* KleptomaniacHero: In fine franchise tradition, Ryder can and probably will loot everything that isn't nailed down, regardless of where (s)he is. One scene on [[WretchedHive Kadara]] has Ryder come across two looters stealing from a corpse, and Ryder can attempt to take the moral high ground by saying [[{{Hypocrite}} "Looting is wrong."]]. The two looters [[TakeThatPlayer just laugh at you]] and continue about their business.

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* KleptomaniacHero: In fine franchise tradition, Ryder can and probably will loot everything that isn't nailed down, regardless of where (s)he is. One scene on [[WretchedHive Kadara]] has Ryder come across two looters stealing from a corpse, and Ryder can attempt to take the moral high ground by saying [[{{Hypocrite}} "Looting is wrong."]]. The two looters [[TakeThatPlayer [[TakeThatAudience just laugh at you]] and continue about their business.
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* EmbarrassingNickname: They're ''not'' happy when Bain Massani keeps calling them "Little Duck" during their short team-up on Eos. Their squad has a field day with it though, which doesn't exactly help matters. Fortunately for Ryder, none of their companions bring it up again once Massani is out of the picture.
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** In addition, by completing "Ryder Family Secrets" will clarify the other main reason. Namely, [[spoiler: SAM held the truth about Ryder's mother, and where she was being hidden, so the siblings could find and thaw her out when/if a cure for her disease was found.]]
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* TookALevelInBadass: Ryder starts the game off as relatively inexperienced. By the time of the team loyalty missions, they've become a full-on the Pathfinder everyone aspires to be.

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* TookALevelInBadass: Ryder starts the game off as relatively inexperienced. By the time of the team loyalty missions, they've become a full-on the Pathfinder everyone aspires to be.

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