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*[[spoiler:RapeAsDrama: ''Very'' heavily implied. She had been taken to Bann Vaughn's room personally, and was in a complete shell shocked state when the PC and Soris rescued her. Though no clothing was removed, she was wearing a skirt...]]

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*OneManArmy
*OnlySaneMan: Also a possibility.

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** The Human Noble origin is actually the only one where both of the player character's parents are present... but of course, they are both brutally murdered very early in the story.
** In the Mage Origin, this is played completely straight, but is also explained and justified very well. When a person is found to have magical ability, which they usually display at a very young age, then by law they must be shipped off to the Tower of Magi for the rest of their life. Virtually all mages will never see or have any contact with their families ever again, and the player character is no exception.
** The Dwarf Commoner's mother is an angsty, abusive and emotionally distant alcoholic. The player's father is never seen, but it is implied that he simply abandoned the family and left them forever when the player character and their sister were very young.
** The Dwarf Noble's father plays a role in the plot during the origin story, but after that he is never seen again, because when the player returns to Orzammar later in the story, they discover that he has already passed away. The player's mother is nowhere to be found, and no mention is ever made of her existence, so it can be assumed that she is probably dead.
** The City Elf’s mother was murdered by humans sometime prior to the beginning of the story. Their father is still alive and well, and actually ''doesn’t'' ever end up dying, but after the prologue he isn't seen again until very near the end of the story, because the Alienage is closed off and inaccessible for most of the game.
** The Dalish Elf’s father was killed before they were born and their heartbroken mother disappeared sometime when they were small, leaving Ashalle as a ParentalSubstitute.

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** The ''The Human Noble Noble'' origin is actually the only one where both of the player character's parents are present... but of course, they are both brutally murdered very early in the story.
** In the Mage ''Mage'' Origin, this is played completely straight, but is also explained and justified very well. When a person is found to have magical ability, which they usually display at a very young age, then by law they must be shipped off to the Tower of Magi for the rest of their life. Virtually all mages will never see or have any contact with their families ever again, and the player character is no exception.
** The Dwarf Commoner's ''Dwarf Commoner's'' mother is an angsty, abusive and emotionally distant alcoholic. The player's father is never seen, but it is implied that he simply abandoned the family and left them forever when the player character and their sister were very young.
** The Dwarf Noble's ''Dwarf Noble's'' father plays a role in the plot during the origin story, but after that he is never seen again, because when the player returns to Orzammar later in the story, they discover that he has already passed away. The player's mother is nowhere to be found, and no mention is ever made of her existence, so it can be assumed that she is probably dead.
** The City Elf’s ''City Elf’s'' mother was murdered by humans sometime prior to the beginning of the story. Their father is still alive and well, and actually ''doesn’t'' ever end up dying, but after the prologue he isn't seen again until very near the end of the story, because the Alienage is closed off and inaccessible for most of the game.
** The Dalish Elf’s ''Dalish Elf’s'' father was killed before they were born and their heartbroken mother disappeared sometime when they were small, leaving Ashalle as a ParentalSubstitute.



* AdultChild: At times, his decisions are more reminiscent of [[AlternateCharacterInterpretation a temperamental teenager]] than a defender of the whole land. These are often potential {{Jerkass}} moments. And his favorite gifts are practically action figures. No, really.
** It's highly likely that Alistair is actually still in his late teens to early twenties. He hadn't actually finished his Templar training despite being in the Chantry since he was ten. He's also referred to as lad/boy a few times during the game. It certainly makes sense considering how he acts at times.
***Assuming certain things from The Calling, Alistair is between 18 and 20 by the events of Origins.
** In the Feast Day DLC, you can actually give him Grey Warden hand puppets, and he says a line of dialog while playing with them (in the recycled [[GoingThroughTheMotions "shaking with fear"]] motion).

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* AdultChild: At times, his decisions are more reminiscent of [[AlternateCharacterInterpretation a temperamental teenager]] than a defender of the whole land. These are often potential {{Jerkass}} moments. He gets called a lad/boy several times; assuming a few things from The Calling, he's around 18-20. And his favorite gifts are practically action figures.figures and finger puppets. No, really.
** It's highly likely that Alistair is actually still in his late teens to early twenties. He hadn't actually finished his Templar training despite being in the Chantry since he was ten. He's also referred to as lad/boy a few times during the game. It certainly makes sense considering how he acts at times.
***Assuming certain things from The Calling, Alistair is between 18 and 20 by the events of Origins.
** In the Feast Day DLC, you can actually give him Grey Warden hand puppets, and he says a line of dialog while playing with them (in the recycled
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*MuteHero: Inconsistently played straight; you can select your PC's voice from a short list, and sometimes hear comments in battle and exploration. But in any cutscene where the player has dialog choices, the lines go unvoiced.


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*SilentProtagonist: Inconsistently played straight; you can select your PC's voice from a short list, and sometimes hear comments in battle and exploration. But in any cutscene where the player has dialog choices, the lines go unvoiced.
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Her face model doesn't count as an Expy.


**** Also, her CGI model was loosely based on adult model Alexandra "Alleykatze" Stein.

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** Also, he was inspired by [[BuffyTheVampireSlayer Spike]] - the attitude, the blond hair and darker skin and even the HeelFaceTurn. Thankfully, not to the degree of [[BadassDecay Spikeification]].
*** Both were originally meant to kill the hero(ine) and distrusted by the rest of the party for quite a while afterwards, particularly [[BuffyTheVampireSlayer Xander]], I mean Allistar. Also they both seem to have a thing for women who can kick their ass. The similarities are definitely there.

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** Also, he was inspired by [[BuffyTheVampireSlayer Spike]] - the attitude, the blond hair and darker skin and even the HeelFaceTurn. Thankfully, not to the degree of [[BadassDecay Spikeification]].
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Spikeification]]. Both were originally meant to kill the hero(ine) and distrusted by the rest of the party for quite a while afterwards, particularly [[strike: [[BuffyTheVampireSlayer Xander]], I mean Allistar.Xander]]]] Alistair. Also they both seem to have a thing for women who can kick their ass. The similarities are definitely there.



** Rogueish character who has little moral compass I see more than a little of [[OrderOfTheStick Belkar]] if less angry and more funny.
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*** Both were originally meant to kill the hero(ine) and distrusted by the rest of the party for quite a while afterwards, particularly [[BuffyTheVampireSlayer Xander]], I mean Allistar. Also they both seem to have a thing for women who can kick their ass. The similarities are definitely there.
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*ButtMonkey: Poor guy just can't catch a break no matter what happens. [[spoiler: If he's not imprisoned for his involvement of the (attempted) murder of Vaughn, then he'll be blamed for the purge of the Alienage afterward and be ostracized by his own people.]]
*[[spoiler: InterspeciesRomance: In his epilogue (City Elf PC only), he marries a human woman and has many children with her.]]
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*ReplacementScrappy: Many see her as a replacement for Morrigan. Mostly for having the same hairstyle and "angry witch" demeanor. She has genuine [[TheScrappy Scrappy]] status without resembling Morrigan, anyway, for her utter hatred of humans and her willingness to kill any, innocent or no, that come across her path.

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*ReplacementScrappy: Many see her as a replacement for Morrigan. Mostly for having the same hairstyle and "angry witch" demeanor. She has genuine [[TheScrappy Scrappy]] status without resembling Morrigan, anyway, for her utter hatred of humans and humans, her willingness to kill any, innocent or no, that come across her path.path, but mostly for her tendency to treat anyone who treats her decently in spite of that like scum.
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First of all, you can't have Player Character Ace's just as they can't be God Mode Sue's, simply because they are the PC. Second of all, you may choose to be a bad person, which The Ace is not. Third of all, The Ace must be very over-the-top with their awesome and cool. The Warden is very good, but if s/he wasn't, Duncan would not have Conscripted her/him.


*TheAce: Being the main character, this isn't entirely unexpected, certain instances do stand out however.
** The mage PC completes the Harrowing in record time and is continuously referred to as First Enchanter Irving's star student
** Ducan travels to Highever or Denerim expressely to recruit the human noble or city elf PC respectively after hearing of their skills
** It's hinted the dwarven council is thinking of skipping over the king's eldest son as the next king in favor the dwarven noble PC due to how awesome he/she is
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*MoralityPet: To [[spoiler:Bhelen and possibly to a Dwarf Commoner PC]].
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*TheAce: Being the main character, this isn't entirely unexpected, certain instances do stand out however.
** The mage PC completes the Harrowing in record time and is continuously referred to as First Enchanter Irving's star student
** Ducan travels to Highever or Denerim expressely to recruit the human noble or city elf PC respectively after hearing of their skills
** It's hinted the dwarven council is thinking of skipping over the king's eldest son as the next king in favor the dwarven noble PC due to how awesome he/she is
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First of all, it's Loghain's plan that puts Cailan in the middle of the field. Second, if Cailan is to be blamed for not waiting for Redcliffe, Loghain is to be blamed for not waiting for Orlesian Wardens.


** It's also possible he wasn't plotting treason at all. The Arl of Redcliff was a personal enemy (he was trying to get Kailen to divorce Anora since she had not produced an heir) and moving against him was the only thing he put in motion before Ostagar. In the actual battle he repeatedly tried to convince the king not to fight directly because he was to valuable to risk, and charging would have been completely suicidal against the sheer numbers the Darkspawn had brought to bear.
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** It's also possible he wasn't plotting treason at all. The Arl of Redcliff was a personal enemy (he was trying to get Kailen to divorce Anora since she had not produced an heir) and moving against him was the only thing he put in motion before Ostagar. In the actual battle he repeatedly tried to convince the king not to fight directly because he was to valuable to risk, and charging would have been completely suicidal against the sheer numbers the Darkspawn had brought to bear.
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*ReplacementScrappy: Many see her as a replacement for Morrigan. Mostly for having the same hairstyle and "angry witch" demeanor.

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*ReplacementScrappy: Many see her as a replacement for Morrigan. Mostly for having the same hairstyle and "angry witch" demeanor. She has genuine [[TheScrappy Scrappy]] status without resembling Morrigan, anyway, for her utter hatred of humans and her willingness to kill any, innocent or no, that come across her path.
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*ReplacementScrappy: Many see her as a replacement for Morrigan. Mostly for having the same hairstyle and "angry witch" demeanor. [[SoYeah Yeah]]...

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*ReplacementScrappy: Many see her as a replacement for Morrigan. Mostly for having the same hairstyle and "angry witch" demeanor. [[SoYeah Yeah]]...
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** Arguably [[DeconstructedTrope deconstructed]] since he is shunned by almost everyone for his behavior and he knows his life is a mess beneath all that drinking and fighting.
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** After telling a parable in regards to mages:
---> '''Grey Warden''': That's more words than I've ever heard you say.
---> '''Sten''': I've been saving them up.

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*ClusterFBomb: "Sodding bitch-born Orlesian whore," is probably the most profane sentence in the franchise.



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*KickTheSonOfABitch: [[spoiler:Literally. Leliana or Silas kicks him [[DisneyVillainDeath off a cliff]], to the player's satisfaction.]]
*VillainousBreakdown: See ClusterFBomb. Also, his reaction if [[spoiler:Leliana tells him that he will expose his attempts to start a war with Orlais.]]
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One of the junior Grey Wardens and Duncan's protege, he's the first true party member to join the player's party (unless the player is a Human Noble, in which case it's the dog). A LawfulGood former KnightTemplar in training, he's a central character to the story, especially when he's forced to reveal that [[spoiler: he's the bastard son of King Maric, making him heir to the Ferelden throne.]] A possible female LoveInterest. Strangely, the golem Shale has no nickname for him, despite giving one to all the other companions.

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One of the junior Grey Wardens and Duncan's protege, he's the first true party member to join the player's party (unless the player is a Human Noble, in which case it's the dog). A LawfulGood former KnightTemplar in training, he's a central character to the story, especially when he's forced to reveal that [[spoiler: he's the bastard son of King Maric, making him heir to the Ferelden throne.]] A possible female LoveInterest. Strangely, the golem Shale has no nickname for him, despite giving one refers to all the other companions.
him as 'the second Warden'.

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Memetic Sexgod is not a character popular with fangirls. It's a character that is just so damn sexy he can get anyone. Zevran is very...YMMV in that regard.


* MemeticSexGod: The internet works hard to help Alistair catch up on intimate matters.



* MeaningfulName: Morrigan was a goddess of war, but she averts the trope, since the lead writer said that Morrigan is named after a character of a friend of his and all similarities with the Celtic goddess are coincidental.

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* MeaningfulName: The Morrigan was a goddess shapeshifting Celtic deity of war, war and death, but she averts the trope, since the lead writer said that Morrigan is named after a character of a friend of his and all similarities with the Celtic goddess are coincidental. coincidental, as they are with [[KingArthur Morgan le Fay]].



** [Morrigan Disapproves -30]

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** [Morrigan Disapproves -30]-30] BioWare made a shirt about it.



* NoSympathy: A big part of her character. Morrigan just doesn't do empathy. She may surprise you every now and then, however - she loudly objects to Sten's imprisonment and sentence, and provided you don't go mushy on her, she's got a fair amount of tolerance for the PC's romance as well, (even though you're apparently stealing her tent to pursue it - see the entry on sleeping arrangements on the ItJustBugsMe page).

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* NoSympathy: A big part of her character. Morrigan just doesn't do empathy. She may surprise you every now and then, however - however--once befriended, she loudly objects to Sten's imprisonment genuinely cares about the PC and sentence, and provided you don't go mushy on her, she's got a fair amount of tolerance for their feelings, expressing sympathy over their mother's death or having girl talk with the PC's romance as well, (even though you're apparently stealing her tent to pursue it - see the entry on sleeping arrangements on the ItJustBugsMe page).Grey Warden.



* MemeticSexGod: Bonus points for him actually being trained with this trope in mind in-universe. Extra points for him aiming for this trope himself.



*MemeticMutation: His BadassBeard.

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*MemeticMutation: His BadassBeard. Fights go on about who's is more badass: Hawke's, the new protagonist from the sequel, or Duncan's.



*MemeticSexGod: Fans rather like to speculate about "the Bannhammer."



--->[[spoiler: '''Teagan''': "Nobody tells him what to dooo! NO-HO-HO-HOBODY!!!!" ]]

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* MemeticSexGod: The internet works hard to help Alistair catch up on intimate matters.


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* MemeticSexGod: Bonus points for him actually being trained with this trope in mind in-universe. Extra points for him aiming for this trope himself.
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* PapaWolf: [[spoiler:In one of the possible outcomes of the Landsmeet, the last thing he does before getting executed at the hands of the Grey Warden is to console Anora. In another outcome, when Shale questions Loghain whether Loghain would have killed Anora to take the throne of Ferelden (as Loghain previously claimed that he would do ''anything'' to protect Ferelden), Loghain replies that he would not have done so even if he had known what he knows now. Also in ''Awakening'', if Loghain is alive and the (imported) Grey Warden is married to Anora, Loghain tells him to take good care of her or otherwise he'll be back anytime from Orlais.]]
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He gets a thrill from being the one in control of someone else, not from the killing itself, per se. As a lifelong slave, he craves the decision-making power, not necessarily simple slaughter. A Blood Knight revels in fighting, not only the opportunity to decide if the person they defeated lives or dies.


* BloodKnight: He gets a thrill from killing people. Subverted, however, as he considers mass slaughter and genocide to be too unrefined for his tastes.
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* BloodKnight: He gets a thrill from killing people. Subverted, however, as he considers mass slaughter and genocide to be too unrefined for his tastes.
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*[[spoiler:GrandmaWhatMassiveHotnessYouHave: Her new body in Dragon Age 2 has garnered this reaction from fans.]]

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We've heard from the devs that the body we see isn't that young...and they're right. Some pictures have her looking pretty old.


[[spoiler:She returns in Dragon Age 2, this time in a younger body.]]

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[[spoiler:She returns in Dragon Age 2, this time and shows herself to Hawke in a younger body.new form.]]



*[[spoiler:WhiteHairedPrettyGirl]]: [[spoiler:What she looks like in Dragon Age 2]].
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[[spoiler:She returns in Dragon Age 2, this time in a younger body.]]


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*[[spoiler:WhiteHairedPrettyGirl]]: [[spoiler:What she looks like in Dragon Age 2]].
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*[[spoiler:WorthyOpponent: He acknowledges the warden as this if he is defeated in the vote at the Landsmeet.]]
-->'''Loghain''': [[spoiler:'A man is made by the quality of his enemies.' Maric told me that once. I wonder if it's more a compliment to you or me.]]
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*UnreliableNarrator: Her account of her [[spoiler: betrayel by Marjolaine and capture]] doesn't quite match up with the events of her prequel DLC(though she seems to be narrating that as well).

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