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** Itsuki ''really'' doesn't like the way he treats his middle son, but continues to obstruct Ikki's advances as a Blazer in order to keep the order of the ranking system intact ([[spoiler:which is also hinted to be not absolute]]).

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** Itsuki ''really'' doesn't like the way he treats his middle son, but continues to obstruct Ikki's advances as a Blazer in order to keep the order of the ranking system intact ([[spoiler:which is also hinted to be not absolute]]).



** [[spoiler:He may be willing to use peer pressure, harassment, and even torture to "[[SarcasmMode encourage]]" Blazers into accepting their role (horrible as it is), apparently, directly forcing them and/or robbing them of their autonomy (i.e. mind control, etc.) is a line he won't cross. Given how he was indoctrinated to uphold the Kurogane traditions before he could even think for himself and what he's capable of in Volume 18, it's possibly true.]]

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** [[spoiler:He may be willing to use peer pressure, harassment, and even torture to "[[SarcasmMode encourage]]" Blazers into accepting their role (horrible as it is), apparently, directly forcing them and/or robbing them of their autonomy (i.e. mind control, etc.) is a line he won't cross. Given how he was indoctrinated to uphold the Kurogane traditions before he could even think for himself and what he's [[BloodMagic capable of of]] in Volume 18, it's possibly true.]] ]]
*** On that note, despite his sabotage of Ikki's Blazer career, not once did he ever voice his disapproval of his son's growing relationship with Stella despite the immense gap in their magic capacity (though he and the clan ''did'' pressure the news to run a smear campaign about their relationship). [[spoiler:Considering his implied AwfulWeddedLife and ArrangedMarriage with his own wife, it's possible that even Itsuki wouldn't go so far as to destroy something truly genuine.]]



* {{Foil}}: To Stella's father, Sirius Vermillion. Sirius is emotional to a fault and only initially discouraged Stella from becoming a Blazer out of concern for her safety. In contrast, Itsuki is coldly rational and wants to end his son's career as a Blazer in order to protect the clan's reputation and the ranking system, regardless if it means letting the Ethics Committee break Ikki.

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* {{Foil}}: To Stella's father, Sirius Vermillion. Sirius is emotional to a fault and only initially discouraged discourages Stella from becoming a Blazer out of concern for her safety. In contrast, Itsuki is coldly rational and wants to end his son's career as a Blazer in order to protect the clan's reputation and the ranking system, regardless if it means letting the Ethics Committee break Ikki.


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* TheManBehindTheMan: Kirihara would have never assaulted Ikki, the teachers would have never made Ikki repeat another year and the smear campaign against Ikki would never have happened if Itsuki wouldn't let them.
* {{Manchild}}: A [[{{Downplayed|Trope}} subtle]] example. [[spoiler:Given what is later found out about him, it's heavily implied that, despite his professionalism, he never really emotionally outgrew the trauma inflicted onto him by his father and the clan elders. Also, whenever he seems to interact with Ikki, the latter notices that his father has a tendency to be clumsy with his words.]]

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* TheManBehindTheMan: Kirihara would have never assaulted Ikki, the teachers would have never made Ikki repeat another year and the smear campaign against Ikki would never have happened if Itsuki wouldn't hadn't let them.
* {{Manchild}}: A [[{{Downplayed|Trope}} subtle]] example. [[spoiler:Given what is later found out about him, it's heavily implied that, despite his professionalism, he never really emotionally outgrew or got over the trauma inflicted onto him by his father and the clan elders. Also, whenever he seems to interact with Ikki, the latter notices that his father has a tendency tends to be clumsy with his words.]]



* TheNeedsOfTheMany: As a staunch supporter of the ranking system, he'll always serve the collective than the individuals.
* NothingPersonal: He has no hatred for Ikki nor does he doubts his fidelity to the Kurogane Clan, but unfortunately has to reject and obstruct him from being a Blazer due to his own duties and upbringing.

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* TheNeedsOfTheMany: As a staunch supporter of the ranking system, he'll always serve the collective rather than the individuals.
* NothingPersonal: He has no hatred for Ikki nor does he doubts doubt his fidelity to the Kurogane Clan, but unfortunately has to reject and obstruct him from being a Blazer due to his own duties and upbringing.



* ParentalNeglect: To the point where it's borderline ParentalAbandonment with Ikki. Itsuki will do everything he can to ignore his son and makes sure that no one outside the family ever made the connection between them. When that doesn't work, he will actively keep him down and "libel" him in the news. All of this... just to preserve a broken system [[spoiler:that even he seems to not have much faith in other than being indoctrinated to support it and knowing ''nothing'' '''''else''''' to do with his life]].

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* ParentalNeglect: To the point where it's borderline ParentalAbandonment with Ikki. Itsuki will do everything he can to ignore his son and makes make sure that no one outside the family ever made makes the connection between them. When that doesn't work, he will actively keep him down and "libel" him in the news. All of this... just to preserve a broken system [[spoiler:that even he seems to not have much faith in other than being indoctrinated to support it and knowing ''nothing'' '''''else''''' to do with his life]].



* WellDoneSonGuy: {{Implied|Trope}}. [[spoiler:Just as the indoctrination from his own father was what lead Itsuki into being the man he is today, it's likely that he was also motivated into making Genma proud at the expense of his own individuality. Safe to say, it only hurt him more in the long run given Genma's cold behavior and extreme beliefs.]]

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* WellDoneSonGuy: {{Implied|Trope}}. [[spoiler:Just as the indoctrination from his own father was what lead led Itsuki into being the man he is today, it's likely that likely, he was also motivated into making Genma proud at the expense of his own individuality. Safe to say, it only hurt him more in the long run given Genma's cold behavior and extreme beliefs.]]



* AmbiguousSituation: Though the aforementioned trope is rather... unclear. While Itsuki used to persecute Ikki, even if he ultimately did end up having a change of heart and even before indicating he may have preferred Ikki to stop being a Blazer partly because he didn't want him to die, Shizuku loathes her father yet she returns home when her mother sends a letter. Considering she hated Itsuki for discriminating against Ikki if their mother indeed treated Ikki like that, Shizuku would likely not care. And it was also stated that Itsuki ''made'' her write that letter, with Shizuku's clear anger making it clear it wasn't the first time, so it may be possible that she is actually a better parent but just can't resist the will of the Kurogane's much less change their treatment of her son. Ikki himself also seems to primarily focus his feelings about being discriminated against on his father.

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* AmbiguousSituation: Though the aforementioned trope is rather... unclear. While Itsuki used to persecute Ikki, even if he ultimately did end up having a change of heart and even before indicating he may have preferred Ikki to stop being a Blazer partly because he didn't want him to die, Shizuku loathes her father yet she returns home when her mother sends a letter. Considering she hated Itsuki for discriminating against Ikki if their mother indeed treated Ikki like that, Shizuku would likely not care. And it It was also stated that Itsuki ''made'' her write that letter, with Shizuku's clear anger making it clear it wasn't the first time, so it may be possible that she is actually a better parent but just can't resist the will of the Kurogane's much less change their treatment of her son. Ikki himself also seems to primarily focus his feelings about being discriminated against on his father.father.
* ArrangedMarriage: Implied. [[spoiler:When some light is shed on Itsuki's DarkAndTroubledPast and how Genma is described to be a ControlFreak, then her marriage with Itsuki may have been one out of political ties and the [[AwfulWeddedLife misery]] that comes with it (both of which is very common in Japanese culture).]]



* TheGhost: She was mentioned by her children, but has not made a single appearance in the series.
* UnnamedParent: Her name has yet to be revealed.

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* TheGhost: She was mentioned by her children, children but has not made a single appearance in the series.
* SatelliteCharacter: Her only role in the entire series is a [[TheGhost passing mention]] that revolves around the varying characterization of her husband and children.
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UnnamedParent: Her name has yet to be revealed.is never revealed, aside from possibly taking on the Kurogane surname.



* DirtyOldMan: (LN only) He gives rather lecherous comments to both Kurono and Nene in volume 3.

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* DirtyOldMan: (LN only) He gives rather In the light novel, he makes lecherous comments to both Kurono and Nene in volume 3.



* KnightOfCerebus: In the earliest volumes, he's one of the most horrifying villains not for his combat ability but for his political influence and willingness to abuse it, as shown in the Ethics Committee's witch hunt against Ikki. By organizing a KangarooCourt and setting up Ikki to be rejected by Itsuki, Akaza comes far closer to breaking the protagonist than Kirihara and other antagonists.

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* KnightOfCerebus: In the earliest volumes, he's one of the most horrifying villains not for his combat ability but for his political influence and willingness to abuse it, as shown in the Ethics Committee's witch hunt against Ikki. By organizing a KangarooCourt and setting up Ikki to be rejected by Itsuki, Akaza comes far closer to breaking the protagonist than Kirihara and the other antagonists.



* TheWorfEffect: Gets easily taken out by Stella when he tries to kill Ikki, just to show how outclassed he is in an actual battle due to preferring to manipulating events behind scenes.

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* TheWorfEffect: Gets easily taken out by Stella when he tries to kill Ikki, just to show how outclassed he is in an actual battle due to preferring to manipulating manipulate events behind the scenes.



* GreaterScopeVillain: [[spoiler:In a way, he can be seen as responsible for the hardships and abusive that Ikki suffers from the Kurogane Clan.]]
* TheGhost: [[spoiler:He has yet to make an appearance in the light novels, but is likely deceased.]]
* HatedByAll: [[spoiler:Besides the previous elders who supported him due to similar beliefs and maybe his own father, who he had half-exiled for trying to reform the Kurogane Clan's twisted traditions, nobody in the current generation of the Kurogane Clan seem to have any love for Genma personally due to his extremism and abuse and only obeyed and respected him out of fidelity and fear. Even his own son doesn't seem to have any care for him to the point of never mentioning the man at all except out of very, ''very'' rare moments, according to Ikki.]]

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* GreaterScopeVillain: [[spoiler:In a way, he can be seen as responsible for the hardships and abusive abuse that Ikki suffers from the Kurogane Clan.]]
* TheGhost: [[spoiler:He has yet to doesn't make an appearance in the light novels, but novels and is likely deceased.]]
* HatedByAll: [[spoiler:Besides the previous elders who supported him due to similar beliefs and maybe his own father, Ryoma, who he had half-exiled for trying to reform the Kurogane Clan's twisted traditions, nobody in the current generation of the Kurogane Clan seem seems to have any love for Genma personally due to his extremism and abuse and only obeyed and respected him out of fidelity and fear. Even his own son doesn't seem to have any care for him to the point of never mentioning the man at all except out of very, ''very'' rare moments, according to Ikki.]]

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* KilledOffscreen: He died of old age a few months after meeting and saving his great-grandson from despair.

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* IAmWhatIAm: [[spoiler:As he tells Ikki in Volume 7, his whole life has been dictated since ''birth'' to fulfill his duties to the Kurogane Clan's traditions and thus, he literally knows no other way of life aside from that. Because of that, he can never recognize Ikki for his accomplishments and that viewpoint won't ever change. [[ArmorPiercingQuestion All before asking him if he really wants a father like that?]]]]



* ParentsAsPeople: While his abusive actions towards Ikki aren't fully excused, the latter realized that even his father [[spoiler:is nonetheless a person who's been indoctrinated with the twisted ideals of the Kurogane Clan without being able to make his own choices in life.]]

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* ParentsAsPeople: While [[spoiler:While it doesn't fully absolve Itsuki of his abusive emotional abuse and the heinous actions towards he took to suppressed him beforehand given that he's a grown man, Ikki aren't fully excused, the latter realized realizes by Volume 7 that even his father [[spoiler:is is nonetheless a person who's been indoctrinated with the twisted ideals of the Kurogane Clan without being able to make his own choices in life.]]

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* AbusiveParents: [[spoiler: If you thought Itsuki's treatment of Ikki was bad, then Genma was ''even'' '''''worse''''' as to how Ikki describes his grandfather's extreme views of the Kurogane Clan's traditions. Due to this kind of upbringing, Itsuki's view of [[BlueAndOrangeMorality familial love and right and wrong is greatly warped]] as shown in his treatment of his own children in the current time.]]

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* AbusiveParents: [[spoiler: If you thought Itsuki's treatment of Ikki was bad, then Genma was ''even'' '''''worse''''' as to how Ikki describes his grandfather's extreme views of the Kurogane Clan's traditions. Due to this kind of upbringing, Itsuki's view of [[BlueAndOrangeMorality familial love and his sense of right and wrong is greatly warped]] as shown in his treatment of his own children in the current time.]]


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* HatedByAll: [[spoiler:Besides the previous elders who supported him due to similar beliefs and maybe his own father, who he had half-exiled for trying to reform the Kurogane Clan's twisted traditions, nobody in the current generation of the Kurogane Clan seem to have any love for Genma personally due to his extremism and abuse and only obeyed and respected him out of fidelity and fear. Even his own son doesn't seem to have any care for him to the point of never mentioning the man at all except out of very, ''very'' rare moments, according to Ikki.]]


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* WalkingSpoiler: [[spoiler:It's hard to talk more about him besides revealing the fact that he's the one whose indirectly responsible for the HonorRelatedAbuse that Ikki had to suffer through at the beginning of the series.]]
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* ExactWords: As revealed in Volume 3, Itsuki explicitly points out to Ikki that he never said anything of disowning him during their last conversation 10 years ago, he just never had any expectations for him and that the latter shouldn't try to change his position in life due to his weak magic capacity as it would destroy the harmony granted by the ranking system.

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* ExactWords: As revealed in Volume 3, Itsuki explicitly points out to Ikki that he never said anything of disowning him during their last conversation 10 11 years ago, ago. He always ''did'' acknowledge him as his son, he just never had any expectations for him and that the latter shouldn't try to change his position in life due to his weak magic capacity as it would destroy the harmony granted by the ranking system.



* {{Manchild}}: A [[{{Downplayed|Trope}} subtle]] example. [[spoiler:Given what is later found out about him, it's heavily implied that, despite his professionalism, he never really emotionally grew up.]]

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* {{Manchild}}: A [[{{Downplayed|Trope}} subtle]] example. [[spoiler:Given what is later found out about him, it's heavily implied that, despite his professionalism, he never really emotionally grew up.outgrew the trauma inflicted onto him by his father and the clan elders. Also, whenever he seems to interact with Ikki, the latter notices that his father has a tendency to be clumsy with his words.]]

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A legendary Blazer and a WWII veteran hero, Ryoma Kurogane was renowned throughout the world as "Samurai Ryoma".

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A legendary Blazer and a WWII veteran hero, Ryoma Kurogane was were renowned throughout the world as "Samurai Ryoma".



* TheExile: [[spoiler: He was half-exiled by his own son for not sharing the Kurogane Clan's hardline traditions.]]

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* TheExile: [[spoiler: He [[spoiler:He was half-exiled by his own son for not sharing the Kurogane Clan's hardline traditions.]]



** Heavily implied to be a straight example towards his son, [[spoiler:Genma]]. [[spoiler:But deconstructed as it didn't stop Genma from growing up to be an AntagonisticOffspring, and in turn, an AbusiveDad towards his own son, Itsuki.]]
* MakingASplash: [[spoiler:Volume 17 reveals that Ryoma's Blazer ability to manipulate water, leading him to be hailed as the "Strongest Water User" in Japan.]]

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** Heavily implied to be a straight example towards [[spoiler:Deconstructed with his own son, [[spoiler:Genma]]. [[spoiler:But deconstructed as Genma. Despite the high likeliness of him being a swell dad, it didn't stop Genma from growing up to be an AntagonisticOffspring, and in turn, an AntagonisticOffspring. Then later, a [[ControlFreak controlling]] AbusiveDad towards his own son, Itsuki.]]
* AnIcePerson: [[spoiler:As a result of his Blazer ability allowing him to manipulate water, it also include the ability to manipulate ice as well.]]
* KilledOffscreen: He died of old age a few months after meeting and saving his great-grandson from despair.
* MakingASplash: [[spoiler:Volume 17 reveals that Ryoma's Blazer ability to manipulate water, leading him to water. Couple with his being a Desperado, he would be hailed as the "Strongest Water User" in Japan.]]



* ScrewDestiny: [[spoiler:Volume 17 reveals that he's a Desperado as well.]]
* WhiteSheep: Aside from Shizuku, he's also another named Kurogane who was benevolent to Ikki despite the latter's low magic capacity. [[spoiler: It's likely that this is why he was exiled from the clan by his own [[AntagonisticOffspring son]], for he didn't share the same twisted ideals and opposes against them.]]
* YouAreBetterThanYouThinkYouAre: He encourages Ikki to continue pursuing his dream as a Blazer regardless of their clan's [[TheSocialDarwinist views]] of strength.

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* PosthumousCharacter: He's long dead by the start of the first volume.
* ScrewDestiny: He inspired and encourage this mentality in Ikki, and to [[spoiler:Eldeweiss in the past]]. [[spoiler:Volume 17 reveals that he's a Desperado as well.]]
* WhiteSheep: Aside from Shizuku, he's also another named Kurogane who was benevolent to Ikki despite the latter's low magic capacity. [[spoiler: It's likely [[spoiler:It also goes further in Volume 18, with the reveal that this is why he was exiled from didn't share the clan same strict and twisted ideals and tried to reform the clan's customs, only to get half-exiled by the elders and his own [[AntagonisticOffspring son]], for he didn't share the same twisted ideals and opposes against them.son]].]]
* YouAreBetterThanYouThinkYouAre: He encourages Ikki to continue pursuing his dream as a Blazer regardless of their clan's [[TheSocialDarwinist views]] of strength.

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* ExactWords: As revealed in Volume 3, Itsuki explicitly points out to Ikki that he never said anything of disowning him during their last conversation 10 years ago, he just never had any expectations for him and that the latter shouldn't try to change his position in life due to his weak magic capacity as it would destroy the harmony granted by the ranking system.



* ShadowArchetype: He's a good look at what Ikki could become if he never had met and been inspired by Ryouma, and unlike Itsuki, Ikki will be forever stashed away in the household to avoid embarrassing the family.

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* ShadowArchetype: He's a good look at what Ikki could become if he never had met and been inspired by Ryouma, Ryoma, and unlike Itsuki, Ikki will Ikki's low position would've led to him killing himself long ago or be forever stashed away in the household to avoid embarrassing the family.

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** [[spoiler:He may be willing to use peer pressure, harassment, and even torture to force Blazers into accepting their role (horrible as it is), apparently, directly robbing them of their autonomy (i.e. mind control, etc.) is a line he won't cross. Given how he was indoctrinated to uphold the Kurogane traditions before he could even think for himself and what he's capable of in Volume 18, it's possibly true.]]

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** [[spoiler:He may be willing to use peer pressure, harassment, and even torture to force "[[SarcasmMode encourage]]" Blazers into accepting their role (horrible as it is), apparently, directly forcing them and/or robbing them of their autonomy (i.e. mind control, etc.) is a line he won't cross. Given how he was indoctrinated to uphold the Kurogane traditions before he could even think for himself and what he's capable of in Volume 18, it's possibly true.]]


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* {{Manchild}}: A [[{{Downplayed|Trope}} subtle]] example. [[spoiler:Given what is later found out about him, it's heavily implied that, despite his professionalism, he never really emotionally grew up.]]

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* ParentalNeglect: To the point where it's borderline ParentalAbandonment with Ikki. Itsuki will do everything he can to ignore his son and makes sure that no one outside the family ever made the connection between them. When that doesn't work, he will actively keep him down and "libel" him in the news. All of this... just to preserve a broken system [[spoiler:that even he seems to not have much faith in other than knowing ''nothing'' '''''else''''' to do with his life]].

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* ParentalNeglect: To the point where it's borderline ParentalAbandonment with Ikki. Itsuki will do everything he can to ignore his son and makes sure that no one outside the family ever made the connection between them. When that doesn't work, he will actively keep him down and "libel" him in the news. All of this... just to preserve a broken system [[spoiler:that even he seems to not have much faith in other than being indoctrinated to support it and knowing ''nothing'' '''''else''''' to do with his life]].



* AmbiguousSituation: Though the aforementioned trope is rather... unclear. While Itsuki used to persecute Ikki, even if he ultimately did end up having a change of heart and even before indicating he may have preferred Ikki to stop being a Blazer partly because he didn't want him to die, Shizuku loathes her father yet she returns home when her mother sends a letter. Considering she hated Itsuki for discriminating against Ikki, if their mother indeed treated Ikki like that, Shizuku would likely not care. And it was also stated Itsuki ''made'' her write that letter, with Shizuku's clear anger making it clear it wasn't the first time, so it may be possible that she is actually a better parent but just can't resist the will of the Kurogane's much less change their treatment of her son. Ikki himself also seems to primarily focus his feelings about being discriminated against on his father.

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* AmbiguousSituation: Though the aforementioned trope is rather... unclear. While Itsuki used to persecute Ikki, even if he ultimately did end up having a change of heart and even before indicating he may have preferred Ikki to stop being a Blazer partly because he didn't want him to die, Shizuku loathes her father yet she returns home when her mother sends a letter. Considering she hated Itsuki for discriminating against Ikki, Ikki if their mother indeed treated Ikki like that, Shizuku would likely not care. And it was also stated that Itsuki ''made'' her write that letter, with Shizuku's clear anger making it clear it wasn't the first time, so it may be possible that she is actually a better parent but just can't resist the will of the Kurogane's much less change their treatment of her son. Ikki himself also seems to primarily focus his feelings about being discriminated against on his father.father.
* AwfulWeddedLife: While not much is known about her marriage with Itsuki, it's heavily implied in the anime that it's not good at all.

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* AbusiveParents: [[spoiler: If you thought Itsuki's treatment of Ikki was bad, then Genma was ''even'' '''''[[EvilerThanThou worse]]''''' as to how Ikki describes his grandfather's extreme views of the Kurogane Clan's traditions. Due to this kind of upbringing, Itsuki's view of [[BlueAndOrangeMorality familial love and right and wrong is greatly warped]] as shown in his treatment of his own children in the current time.]]

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* AbusiveParents: [[spoiler: If you thought Itsuki's treatment of Ikki was bad, then Genma was ''even'' '''''[[EvilerThanThou worse]]''''' '''''worse''''' as to how Ikki describes his grandfather's extreme views of the Kurogane Clan's traditions. Due to this kind of upbringing, Itsuki's view of [[BlueAndOrangeMorality familial love and right and wrong is greatly warped]] as shown in his treatment of his own children in the current time.]]



* EvilerThanThou: [[spoiler:Even though he was only mentioned briefly by Ikki, he's clearly bad news and can make ''Itsuki'' look like a good parent in comparison.]]

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* AbusiveParents: [[spoiler: If you thought Itsuki's treatment of Ikki was bad, then Genma was ''even'' '''''[[EvilerThanThou worse]]''''' as to how Ikki describes his grandfather's extreme views of the Kurogane Clan's traditions. Due to this kind of upbringing, it greatly affects Itsuki's parental skills as shown in his treatment with his own children in the current time.]]

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* AbusiveParents: [[spoiler: If you thought Itsuki's treatment of Ikki was bad, then Genma was ''even'' '''''[[EvilerThanThou worse]]''''' as to how Ikki describes his grandfather's extreme views of the Kurogane Clan's traditions. Due to this kind of upbringing, it greatly affects Itsuki's parental skills view of [[BlueAndOrangeMorality familial love and right and wrong is greatly warped]] as shown in his treatment with of his own children in the current time.]]



* GeniusBruiser: Not only was he a powerful warrior amongst the Kurogane Clan, [[spoiler:but he had built special prison cell called "Coctyus" to imprison the founder of a dangerous religious group called Tendoushuu]].

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* EvilerThanThou: [[spoiler:Even though he was only mentioned briefly by Ikki, he's clearly bad news and can make ''Itsuki'' look like a good parent in comparison.]]
* GeniusBruiser: Not only was he a powerful warrior amongst the Kurogane Clan, [[spoiler:but he had built Volume 18 reveals that he's capable of building a special prison cell called "Coctyus" to imprison the founder of a dangerous religious group called Tendoushuu]].



* TheGhost: [[spoiler: He has yet to make an appearance in the light novels, but is likely deceased.]]
* ProudWarriorRaceGuy: [[spoiler: As the previous Head of the Kurogane Clan, Genma is this and is implied to be quite extreme when enforcing the other members to follow the family tradition, including his own son.]]

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* TheGhost: [[spoiler: He [[spoiler:He has yet to make an appearance in the light novels, but is likely deceased.]]
* ProudWarriorRaceGuy: [[spoiler: As [[spoiler:As the previous Head of the Kurogane Clan, Genma is this and is implied to be quite extreme when enforcing the other members to follow the family tradition, including his own son.]]

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* AppealToTradition: [[spoiler:A belief that was retroactively enforced by his father and the elders, leading Itsuki to continue carrying on the Kurogane Clan's hardline stance of preserving the Ranking system no matter what.]]



* BlueAndOrangeMorality: [[spoiler:He has a chilling outlook of the world where everyone is born as a "cog" who ''must'' follow whatever fate they have in store for them or else they'll suffer consequences, including his own family. Yet, he also seems to genuinely believe

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* BlueAndOrangeMorality: [[spoiler:He has a chilling outlook of the world where everyone is born as a "cog" who ''must'' follow whatever fate they have in store for them or else they'll suffer consequences, including his own family. Yet, he does seem capable of genuine love for his children, but in a rather twisted way due to his own childhood. He also seems to genuinely believe that people should be given a ''choice'' to follow their fate despite his willingness to stack the cards against them.]]



** Itsuki ''really'' doesn't like the way he treats his middle son, but continues to obstruct Ikki's advances as a Blazer in order to keep the order of the ranking system intact.

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** Itsuki ''really'' doesn't like the way he treats his middle son, but continues to obstruct Ikki's advances as a Blazer in order to keep the order of the ranking system intact.intact ([[spoiler:which is also hinted to be not absolute]]).



** [[spoiler:He may be willing to use peer pressure, harassment, and even torture to force Blazers into accepting their role (horrible as it is), apparently, directly robbing them of their autonomy (i.e. mind control, etc.) is a line he won't cross. Given how he was indoctrinated to uphold the Kurogane traditions before he could even think for himself and what he's capable of in Volume 18, it's possibly true.]]



* HatesTheirParent: Implied. [[spoiler:Given Ikki's description of what kind of man Genma was and the fact that Itsuki has never mentioned his own father.]]

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* HatesTheirParent: Implied. [[spoiler:Given Ikki's description of what kind of man Genma was and the fact that Itsuki has never mentioned his own father.father beyond certain circumstances.]]



* KnightTemplar: He firmly believes in the Ranking system bringing the stability of Japan obstructs Ikki from continuing his career or he will cause lower-ranked Blazers to become conceited and ruin it.

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* {{Irony}}: [[spoiler:He seems to be against directly raising his hand against his children, even Ikki, as a result of his own abusive past]], but he has no problems with using indirect methods by hiring proxies to do the job for him. Whether or not this makes him cowardly or [[spoiler:him trying to be somewhat better than his own father]] is up to the reader.
* KnightTemplar: He firmly believes in the Ranking system bringing the stability of Japan obstructs Ikki from continuing his career or he will cause lower-ranked Blazers to become conceited and ruin it. [[spoiler:Though it's downplayed given what is later found out about him.]]



* ParentalNeglect: To the point where it's borderline ParentalAbandonment with Ikki. Itsuki will do everything he can to ignore his son. And when that doesn't work, actively keep him down. And all of this just to preserve a broken system.
* ParentsAsPeople: While his actions towards Ikki aren't fully excused, the latter realized that even his father [[spoiler:is nonetheless a person who's been indoctrinated with the twisted ideals of the Kurogane Clan without being able to make his own choices in life.]]

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* ParentalNeglect: To the point where it's borderline ParentalAbandonment with Ikki. Itsuki will do everything he can to ignore his son. And when son and makes sure that no one outside the family ever made the connection between them. When that doesn't work, he will actively keep him down. And all down and "libel" him in the news. All of this this... just to preserve a broken system.
system [[spoiler:that even he seems to not have much faith in other than knowing ''nothing'' '''''else''''' to do with his life]].
* ParentsAsPeople: While his abusive actions towards Ikki aren't fully excused, the latter realized that even his father [[spoiler:is nonetheless a person who's been indoctrinated with the twisted ideals of the Kurogane Clan without being able to make his own choices in life.]]



* ShadowArchetype: He's a good look at what Ikki could become if he never had met and been inspired by Ryouma, and unlike Itsuki, Ikki will be forever stashed away in the household to avoid embarrassing the family.



* WellDoneSonGuy: {{Implied|Trope}}. [[spoiler:Just as the indoctrination from his own father was what lead Itsuki into being the man he is today, it's likely that he was also motivated into making Genma proud at the expense of his own individuality.]]

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* WellDoneSonGuy: {{Implied|Trope}}. [[spoiler:Just as the indoctrination from his own father was what lead Itsuki into being the man he is today, it's likely that he was also motivated into making Genma proud at the expense of his own individuality. Safe to say, it only hurt him more in the long run given Genma's cold behavior and extreme beliefs.]]

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* AmbiguouslyEvil: The Kurogane Clan possesses enough influence in the Mage-Knight world where they can partake in the affairs of the Japanese government, and have been doing rather shady affairs to further increase their political power.

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* AmbiguouslyEvil: The Kurogane Clan possesses enough influence in the Mage-Knight world where they can partake in the affairs of the Japanese government, and have been doing rather shady affairs to further increase their political power. But how evil they are in their pursuit for political power, besides their abuse of Ikki, is up for air.



A legendary Blazer and a WWII veteran hero, Ryoma Kurogane was renown throughout the world as "Samurai Ryoma".

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A legendary Blazer and a WWII veteran hero, Ryoma Kurogane was renown renowned throughout the world as "Samurai Ryoma".



* GoodParents: Well great-grandparent, but it still fits. As he was benevolent towards Ikki when the rest of the clan (except Shizuku) ostracized the latter for his weak magic power and supported the boy in his DarkestHour.

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Well great-grandparent, but it still fits. As he was benevolent towards Ikki when the rest of the clan (except Shizuku) ostracized the latter for his weak magic power and supported the boy in his DarkestHour. DarkestHour.
** Heavily implied to be a straight example towards his son, [[spoiler:Genma]]. [[spoiler:But deconstructed as it didn't stop Genma from growing up to be an AntagonisticOffspring, and in turn, an AbusiveDad towards his own son, Itsuki.]]



** He has no problems letting his son Ikki be effectively treated as ''non-existent'' since the age of five, or be on the receiving end of a NoHoldsBarredBeatdown where if he retaliates, he faces expulsion from school. During the series proper, Ikki the victim of ColdBloodedTorture -- being poisoned, drugged, and suffering from sleep deprivation to the point that he's deathly ill ''before being thrown into a duel'', and being nearly murdered by the family's primary retainer. Itsuki does all this to preserve the ranking system of the Magic Knights of Japan, all the while claiming that he bears no hatred towards his son. [[spoiler: It's eventually revealed this is because [[FreudianExcuse Itsuki's own father was unloving and cruel towards him as a child,]] which caused him to be the strict person he today.]]
** In a way, he can arguably be this towards his two favorite children, Ouma and Shizuku, as well. While he's far more lenient with them, mainly due to their having more magic capacity and [[spoiler:to make up for the cold treatment he received from his own father in his own twisted way]], it ends up backfiring with Ouma being disobedient and leaving the family while Shizuku hates his guts due to his abuse of Ikki. Furthermore, his poor treatment of Ikki for having F-Rank Magic capacity can also be abusive to Ouma and Shizuku by extension, in an unspoken "this is what would happen to you if you weren't born with stronger magic" kind of way.

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** He has no problems letting his son Ikki be effectively treated as ''non-existent'' since the age of five, or be on the receiving end of a NoHoldsBarredBeatdown where if he retaliates, he faces expulsion from school. During the series proper, Ikki the victim of ColdBloodedTorture -- being is poisoned, drugged, and suffering from sleep deprivation to the point that he's deathly ill ''before being thrown into a duel'', and being nearly murdered by the family's primary retainer. Itsuki does all this to preserve the ranking system of the Magic Knights of Japan, all the while claiming that he bears no hatred towards his son. [[spoiler: It's eventually revealed this is because [[FreudianExcuse Itsuki's own father was unloving and cruel towards him as a child,]] which caused him to be ends up greatly warping his morality into the strict person he is today.]]
** In a way, he He can arguably be this towards his two favorite children, Ouma and Shizuku, as well. While he's far more lenient with them, mainly due to their having more magic capacity and [[spoiler:to make up for the cold treatment he received from his own father in his own twisted way]], it ends up backfiring with Ouma being disobedient and leaving the family while Shizuku hates ''hates'' his guts due to his abuse of Ikki. Furthermore, his poor treatment of Ikki for having F-Rank Magic capacity can also be abusive to Ouma and Shizuku by extension, in an unspoken "this is what would happen to you if you weren't born with stronger magic" kind of way.



* TheChainOfHarm: [[spoiler:His father and the other elders of the family abused him, and he in turn passed on this abuse to Ikki as he knew nothing else.]]

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* BlueAndOrangeMorality: [[spoiler:He has a chilling outlook of the world where everyone is born as a "cog" who ''must'' follow whatever fate they have in store for them or else they'll suffer consequences, including his own family. Yet, he also seems to genuinely believe
* TheChainOfHarm: [[spoiler:His father and the other elders of the family abused him, and he in turn passed on this abuse to Ikki Ikki, and arguably Ouma and Shizuku, as he knew nothing else.]]

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* HeroAntagonist: "Hero" is ''really'' stretching it, but if he wasn't so hell-bent on upholding his family's twisted ideals, then Itsuki would be a straight example. Regardless of his constant obstructions to his son Ikki, Itsuki's goal in keeping the status quo is rooted in creating peace and harmony for the people of Japan.

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* HatesTheirParent: Implied. [[spoiler:Given Ikki's description of what kind of man Genma was and the fact that Itsuki has never mentioned his own father.]]
* HeroAntagonist: "Hero" is ''really'' stretching it, but if he wasn't so hell-bent on upholding his family's twisted ideals, then Itsuki would be a straight example. Regardless of his constant obstructions to his son Ikki, Itsuki's goal in of keeping the status quo is rooted in creating peace and harmony for the people of Japan.



* ParentalFavoritism: PlayedForDrama. In contrast to his poor treatment of Ikki, he practically dotes on his youngest daughter and never punish her for anything, [[spoiler:and he still reaches out to his firstborn son despite the latter's disobedience and the fact that he had cut ties with the clan.]] However, when combined with his overall worldview, this favoritism is rather twisted and doesn't come without strings.

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* ParentalFavoritism: PlayedForDrama. In contrast to his poor treatment of Ikki, he practically dotes on his youngest daughter and never punish punishes her for anything, [[spoiler:and he still reaches out to his firstborn son despite the latter's disobedience and the fact that he had cut ties with the clan.]] However, when combined with his overall worldview, this favoritism is rather twisted and doesn't come without strings.

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* NotGoodWithPeople: {{Deconstructed|Trope}}. He's capable of playing the political game and can interact with others in a logical, professional manner, but his harsh upbringing has stunted his ability to properly interact with others as individuals, leading to him being seen as a very cold and heartless person.


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* TheSocialExpert: {{Deconstructed|Trope}}. He's capable of playing the political game and can interact with others in a logical, professional manner, but his harsh upbringing has stunted his ability to properly interact with others as individuals, leading to him being seen as a very cold and heartless person.
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* DoubleThink: Despite thinking that Ikki won't amount to much due to his rank, he still feels the need to sabotage Ikki's progress to protect the ranking system rather than trust the ranking system to stop Ikki's ascent fairly.

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* DoubleThink: Despite thinking that Ikki won't amount to much due to his rank, he still feels the need to sabotage Ikki's progress to protect the ranking system rather than trust the ranking system to stop Ikki's ascent fairly. [[spoiler:Given what's later on revealed about him, this implies that Itsuki's belief in the harmony granted by the ranking system is not absolute.]]

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* AbusiveDad: He has no problems letting his son Ikki be effectively treated as ''non-existent'' since the age of five, or be on the receiving end of a NoHoldsBarredBeatdown where if he retaliates, he faces expulsion from school. During the series proper, Ikki the victim of ColdBloodedTorture -- being poisoned, drugged, and suffering from sleep deprivation to the point that he's deathly ill ''before being thrown into a duel'', and being nearly murdered by the family's primary retainer. Itsuki does all this to preserve the ranking system of the Magic Knights of Japan, all the while claiming that he bears no hatred towards his son. [[spoiler: It's eventually revealed this is because [[FreudianExcuse Itsuki's own father was unloving and cruel towards him as a child,]] which caused him to be the strict person he today.]]

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* AbusiveDad: AbusiveDad:
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He has no problems letting his son Ikki be effectively treated as ''non-existent'' since the age of five, or be on the receiving end of a NoHoldsBarredBeatdown where if he retaliates, he faces expulsion from school. During the series proper, Ikki the victim of ColdBloodedTorture -- being poisoned, drugged, and suffering from sleep deprivation to the point that he's deathly ill ''before being thrown into a duel'', and being nearly murdered by the family's primary retainer. Itsuki does all this to preserve the ranking system of the Magic Knights of Japan, all the while claiming that he bears no hatred towards his son. [[spoiler: It's eventually revealed this is because [[FreudianExcuse Itsuki's own father was unloving and cruel towards him as a child,]] which caused him to be the strict person he today.]] ]]
** In a way, he can arguably be this towards his two favorite children, Ouma and Shizuku, as well. While he's far more lenient with them, mainly due to their having more magic capacity and [[spoiler:to make up for the cold treatment he received from his own father in his own twisted way]], it ends up backfiring with Ouma being disobedient and leaving the family while Shizuku hates his guts due to his abuse of Ikki. Furthermore, his poor treatment of Ikki for having F-Rank Magic capacity can also be abusive to Ouma and Shizuku by extension, in an unspoken "this is what would happen to you if you weren't born with stronger magic" kind of way.



* DidntThinkThisThrough: It says a lot that he told his ''five-year-old'' son that "he simply couldn't do anything and shouldn't try" and then cutting off all verbal contact afterward had only lead to Ikki believing that his father disowns him and spend ''11'' miserable years seeking strength in order to make him proud.

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* DidntThinkThisThrough: It says a lot that he told his ''five-year-old'' son that "he simply couldn't do anything and shouldn't try" and then cutting off all verbal contact afterward had only lead led to Ikki believing that his father disowns him and spend ''11'' miserable years seeking strength in order to make him proud.
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* AmbiguousDisorder: The fact that his disturbingly LackOfEmpathy, NoSocialSkills, objectification of others should be a clear sign.
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* ChainOfHarm: [[spoiler:His father and the other elders of the family abused him, and he in turn passed on this abuse to Ikki as he knew nothing else.]]

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* ChainOfHarm: TheChainOfHarm: [[spoiler:His father and the other elders of the family abused him, and he in turn passed on this abuse to Ikki as he knew nothing else.]]



* ParentsAsPeople: While his actions towards Ikki aren't fully excused, the latter realized that even his father is nonetheless a person who's been indoctrinated with the twisted ideals of the Kurogane Clan without being able to make his own choices in life.

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* ParentsAsPeople: While his actions towards Ikki aren't fully excused, the latter realized that even his father is [[spoiler:is nonetheless a person who's been indoctrinated with the twisted ideals of the Kurogane Clan without being able to make his own choices in life.]]
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* ChainOfHarm: [[spoiler:His father and the other elders of the family abused him, and he in turn passed on this abuse to Ikki as he knew nothing else.]]
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* AnAxeToGrind: He wields an axe as a WeaponOfChoice.
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* {{Abusive Parent|s}}: He has no problems letting his son Ikki be effectively treated as ''non-existent'' since the age of five, or be on the receiving end of a NoHoldsBarredBeatdown where if he retaliates, he faces expulsion from school. During the series proper, Ikki the victim of ColdBloodedTorture -- being poisoned, drugged, and suffering from sleep deprivation to the point that he's deathly ill ''before being thrown into a duel'', and being nearly murdered by the family's primary retainer. Itsuki does all this to preserve the ranking system of the Magic Knights of Japan, all the while claiming that he bears no hatred towards his son. [[spoiler: It's eventually revealed this is because [[FreudianExcuse Itsuki's own father was unloving and cruel towards him as a child,]] which caused him to be the strict person he today.]]

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* {{Abusive Parent|s}}: AbusiveDad: He has no problems letting his son Ikki be effectively treated as ''non-existent'' since the age of five, or be on the receiving end of a NoHoldsBarredBeatdown where if he retaliates, he faces expulsion from school. During the series proper, Ikki the victim of ColdBloodedTorture -- being poisoned, drugged, and suffering from sleep deprivation to the point that he's deathly ill ''before being thrown into a duel'', and being nearly murdered by the family's primary retainer. Itsuki does all this to preserve the ranking system of the Magic Knights of Japan, all the while claiming that he bears no hatred towards his son. [[spoiler: It's eventually revealed this is because [[FreudianExcuse Itsuki's own father was unloving and cruel towards him as a child,]] which caused him to be the strict person he today.]]



* AbusiveParent: Much like her husband, she treated Ikki as non-existent after he became 5 years old. But how bad she is with this remains unclear given the AmbiguousSituation below.

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* AbusiveParent: AbusiveMom: Much like her husband, she treated Ikki as non-existent after he became 5 years old. But how bad she is with this remains unclear given the AmbiguousSituation below.
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* ParentalNeglect: [[UpToEleven To the point]] where it's borderline ParentalAbandonment with Ikki. Itsuki will do everything he can to ignore his son. And when that doesn't work, actively keep him down. And all of this just to preserve a broken system.

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* ParentalNeglect: [[UpToEleven To the point]] point where it's borderline ParentalAbandonment with Ikki. Itsuki will do everything he can to ignore his son. And when that doesn't work, actively keep him down. And all of this just to preserve a broken system.
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* TheManBehindTheMan: Kirihara would have never assaulted Ikki, the teachers would have never made Ikki repeat another year and the smear campaign against Ikki would never have happened if Itsuki wouldn't have let them.

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* TheManBehindTheMan: Kirihara would have never assaulted Ikki, the teachers would have never made Ikki repeat another year and the smear campaign against Ikki would never have happened if Itsuki wouldn't have let them.



* AbusiveParent: Much like her husband, she treated Ikki as non-existent after he became 5-years-old.
* AmbiguousSituation: Though the afromentioned trope is rather.... Unclear. While Itsuki used to persecute Ikki, even if he ultimately did end up having a change of heart and even before indicating he may have preferred Ikki to stop being a Blazer partly because he didn't want him to die, Shizuku loathes her father yet she returns home when her mother send a letter. Considering she hated Itsuki for discriminating Ikki, if their mother indeed treated Ikki like that, Shizuku would likely not care. And it was also stated Itsuki "made" her write that letter, with Shizuku's clear anger making it clear it wasn't the first time, so it may be possible that she is actually a better parent but just can't resist the will of the Kuroganes much less change their treatment of her son. Ikki himself also seems to primarily focus his feelings about being discriminated on his father.

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* AbusiveParent: Much like her husband, she treated Ikki as non-existent after he became 5-years-old.
5 years old. But how bad she is with this remains unclear given the AmbiguousSituation below.
* AmbiguousSituation: Though the afromentioned aforementioned trope is rather.... Unclear. rather... unclear. While Itsuki used to persecute Ikki, even if he ultimately did end up having a change of heart and even before indicating he may have preferred Ikki to stop being a Blazer partly because he didn't want him to die, Shizuku loathes her father yet she returns home when her mother send sends a letter. Considering she hated Itsuki for discriminating against Ikki, if their mother indeed treated Ikki like that, Shizuku would likely not care. And it was also stated Itsuki "made" ''made'' her write that letter, with Shizuku's clear anger making it clear it wasn't the first time, so it may be possible that she is actually a better parent but just can't resist the will of the Kuroganes Kurogane's much less change their treatment of her son. Ikki himself also seems to primarily focus his feelings about being discriminated against on his father.
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* AmbiguousSituation: Though the afromentioned trope is rather.... Unclear. While Itsuki used to persecute Ikki, even if he ultimately did end up having a change of heart and even before indicating he may have preferred Ikki to stop being a Blazer partly because he didn't want him to die, Shizuku loathes her father yet she returns home when her mother send a letter. Considering she hated Itsuki for discriminating Ikki, if their mother indeed treated Ikki like that, Shizuku would likely not care. And it was also stated Itsuki "made" her write that letter, with Shizuku's clear anger making it clear it wasn't the first time, so it may be possible that she is actually a better parent but just can't resist the will of the Kuroganes much less change their treatment of her son. Ikki himself also seems to primarily focus his feelings about being discriminated on his father.

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