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Does not represent arguments in favor of those kind of pages at all. The entire point of the Broken Base trope is that fans are split distinctly between two different opinions on something, not just "this thing sucks."


* A common reason for downvoting & criticism of long or heavily format screwed articles is that the author is "disguising a tale as an SCP". It is viewed as bad because it promotes indulgent prose, that the SCP objects in these long articles are often a boring FramingDevice that wouldn't survive as a short article, encourages cliquey behaviour from the top writers who are the only people likely to get away with such articles, dilutes the basis for the website itself and devalues the actual tales section of the site.
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* [[https://scp-wiki.wikidot.com/scp-6140 SCP-6140 - The True Empire]], a deconstructive reinterpretation of [[https://scp-wiki.wikidot.com/scp-140 SCP-140]], in which [[spoiler: the Daevite Empire as it largely existed in the SCP universe is largely the result of a Victorian's crazed and orientalist reinterpretation of the worst excesses of their ancient past as redefining their entire civilization]]. While (most) readers understand the intent and moral and appreciate the writing and construction of the article itself, division arises as to whether or not it represents fair criticism of the original SCP-140 article, whether or not it fully understands all the SCP lore it attempts to use, or whether or not the situation it presents is too contrived to properly convey the message it's trying to get across. A smaller group simply takes offense to radically rewriting a long-standing part of the site's canon, presumably without the permission of the original author.

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* [[https://scp-wiki.wikidot.com/scp-6140 SCP-6140 - The True Empire]], a deconstructive reinterpretation of [[https://scp-wiki.wikidot.com/scp-140 SCP-140]], in which [[spoiler: the [[spoiler:the Daevite Empire as it largely existed in the SCP universe is largely the result of a Victorian's crazed and orientalist reinterpretation of the worst excesses of their ancient past as redefining their entire civilization]]. While (most) readers understand the intent and moral and appreciate the writing and construction of the article itself, division arises as to whether or not it represents fair criticism of the original SCP-140 article, whether or not it fully understands all the SCP lore it attempts to use, or whether or not the situation it presents is too contrived to properly convey the message it's trying to get across. A smaller group simply takes offense to radically rewriting a long-standing part of the site's canon, presumably without the permission of the original author.
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* The site itself was hit hard by this when they changed their logo to a pride flag during pride month 2018. Detractors felt that changing the logo broke immersion, since it implied that the morally grey, vaguely dystopian Foundation celebrated pride month. Supporters pointed out that the Foundation is not real, the site is run by people who support LGBT rights, and that changing the logo has nothing to do with how the Foundation operates in-universe, beyond being a neat way to show support for marginalized people. [[http://05command.wikidot.com/forum/t-6186027/discussion-thread:our-response-to-social-media-fiasco Failure to punish ostensibly pro-staff counter-trolls on the official subreddit, inflammatory posts by staff members on the Foundation's official social media account and subreddit that equated all criticism with bigotry, and excessively heavy-handed treatment of dissenting users]] further broke the base. The controversy ultimately died down following the reversal of wrongful bans and the resignation of the staff most responsible for amplifying the controversy, though a few pages adopting a permanent version of the SCP pride logo in the wake of the matter. Even so, the controversy led to quite a few writers to defect from the site and to create a SpiritualSuccessor going back to their [[RevisitingTheRoots horror-based roots]] and creating an 'apolitical alternative' (i.e. right-wing clone) of the site, resulting in the creation of the ''Website/RPCAuthority''.

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* The site itself was hit hard by this when they changed their logo to a pride flag during pride month 2018. Detractors felt that changing the logo broke immersion, since it implied that the morally grey, vaguely dystopian Foundation celebrated pride month. Supporters pointed out that the Foundation is not real, the site is run by people who support LGBT rights, and that changing the logo has nothing to do with how the Foundation operates in-universe, beyond being a neat way to show support for marginalized people. [[http://05command.wikidot.com/forum/t-6186027/discussion-thread:our-response-to-social-media-fiasco Failure to punish ostensibly pro-staff counter-trolls on the official subreddit, inflammatory posts by staff members on the Foundation's official social media account and subreddit that equated all criticism with bigotry, and excessively heavy-handed treatment of dissenting users]] further broke the base. The controversy ultimately died down following the reversal of wrongful bans and the resignation of the staff most responsible for amplifying the controversy, though a few pages adopting a permanent version of the SCP pride logo in the wake of the matter. Even so, the controversy led to quite a few writers to defect from the site and to create a SpiritualSuccessor going back to that better reflected their [[RevisitingTheRoots horror-based roots]] and creating an 'apolitical alternative' (i.e. right-wing clone) of the site, resulting in the creation of preferences, the ''Website/RPCAuthority''.
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* The site itself was hit hard by this when they changed their logo to a pride flag during pride month 2018. Detractors felt that changing the logo broke immersion, since it implied that the morally grey, vaguely dystopian Foundation celebrated pride month. Supporters pointed out that the Foundation is not real, the site is run by people who support LGBT rights, and that changing the logo has nothing to do with how the Foundation operates in-universe, beyond being a neat way to show support for marginalized people. [[http://05command.wikidot.com/forum/t-6186027/discussion-thread:our-response-to-social-media-fiasco Failure to punish ostensibly pro-staff counter-trolls on the official subreddit, inflammatory posts by staff members on the Foundation's official social media account and subreddit that equated all criticism with bigotry, and excessively heavy-handed treatment of dissenting users]] further broke the base. The controversy ultimately died down following the reversal of wrongful bans and the resignation of the staff most responsible for amplifying the controversy, though a few pages adopting a permanent version of the SCP pride logo in the wake of the matter. Even so, the controversy led to quite a few writers to defect from the site and to create a SpiritualSuccessor going back to their [[RevisitingTheRoots horror-based roots]], resulting in the creation of the ''Website/RPCAuthority''.

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* The site itself was hit hard by this when they changed their logo to a pride flag during pride month 2018. Detractors felt that changing the logo broke immersion, since it implied that the morally grey, vaguely dystopian Foundation celebrated pride month. Supporters pointed out that the Foundation is not real, the site is run by people who support LGBT rights, and that changing the logo has nothing to do with how the Foundation operates in-universe, beyond being a neat way to show support for marginalized people. [[http://05command.wikidot.com/forum/t-6186027/discussion-thread:our-response-to-social-media-fiasco Failure to punish ostensibly pro-staff counter-trolls on the official subreddit, inflammatory posts by staff members on the Foundation's official social media account and subreddit that equated all criticism with bigotry, and excessively heavy-handed treatment of dissenting users]] further broke the base. The controversy ultimately died down following the reversal of wrongful bans and the resignation of the staff most responsible for amplifying the controversy, though a few pages adopting a permanent version of the SCP pride logo in the wake of the matter. Even so, the controversy led to quite a few writers to defect from the site and to create a SpiritualSuccessor going back to their [[RevisitingTheRoots horror-based roots]], roots]] and creating an 'apolitical alternative' (i.e. right-wing clone) of the site, resulting in the creation of the ''Website/RPCAuthority''.
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Just to add this mention: djkaktus, even at the time he was on Staff (which was in the second half of the 2010s, so a while back), was never admin, the highest position he had was moderator. Plus, he retired years ago, again.


* There is a lot of controversy surrounding the character of Jack Bright and his replacement Elias Shaw. Some fans state that Bright's character is not inherently the same as his real-life counterpart and that he's a major part of the Foundation's lore, while detractors claim that Bright was mostly a bad writer insert and that they would be more than happy to see them and every trace of their existence gone. There is also the camp of people who are unaware of the issues surrounding the name "Bright".[[labelnote:Full context of the drama]]Dr. Jack Bright was the self-insert of a major SCP wiki admin named Admin Bright, and thus was able to get into a large number of articles due to this status. However, it was eventually revealed that Bright had been responsible for pedophilic actions going back a decade, and thus he was cast out and banned from the Wiki. Another prominent admin and writer, djkaktus, created the Elias Shaw character and used him as a replacement for Bright, with this name increasingly beginning to take over Bright's roles with all traces of Bright's presence being slowly scrubbed off the wiki.[[/labelnote]]

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* There is a lot of controversy surrounding the character of Jack Bright and his replacement Elias Shaw. Some fans state that Bright's character is not inherently the same as his real-life counterpart and that he's a major part of the Foundation's lore, while detractors claim that Bright was mostly a bad writer insert and that they would be more than happy to see them and every trace of their existence gone. There is also the camp of people who are unaware of the issues surrounding the name "Bright".[[labelnote:Full context of the drama]]Dr. Jack Bright was the self-insert of a major SCP wiki admin named Admin Bright, and thus was able to get into a large number of articles due to this status. However, it was eventually revealed that Bright had been responsible for pedophilic actions going back a decade, and thus he was cast out and banned from the Wiki. Another prominent admin and writer, djkaktus, created the Elias Shaw character and used him as a replacement for Bright, with this name increasingly beginning to take over Bright's roles with all traces of Bright's presence being slowly scrubbed off the wiki.[[/labelnote]]
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* There is a lot of controversy surrounding the character of Jack Bright and his replacement Elias Shaw. Some fans state that Bright's character is not inherently the same as his real-life counterpart and that he's a major part of the Foundation's lore, while detractors claim that Bright was mostly a bad writer insert and that they would be more than happy to see them and every trace of their existence gone. There is also the camp of people who are unaware of the issues surrounding the name "Bright".[[labelnote:Full context of the drama]]Dr. Jack Bright was the self-insert of a major SCP wiki admin named Admin Bright, and thus was able to get into a large number of articles due to this status. However, it was eventually revealed that Bright had been responsible for pedophilic actions going back a decade, and thus he was cast out and banned from the Wiki. Another prominent admin and writer, djkaktus, created the Elias Shaw character and used him as a replacement for Bright, with this name increasingly beginning to take over Bright's roles with all traces of Bright's presence being Unperson slowly scrubbed off the wiki.[[/labelnote]]

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* There is a lot of controversy surrounding the character of Jack Bright and his replacement Elias Shaw. Some fans state that Bright's character is not inherently the same as his real-life counterpart and that he's a major part of the Foundation's lore, while detractors claim that Bright was mostly a bad writer insert and that they would be more than happy to see them and every trace of their existence gone. There is also the camp of people who are unaware of the issues surrounding the name "Bright".[[labelnote:Full context of the drama]]Dr. Jack Bright was the self-insert of a major SCP wiki admin named Admin Bright, and thus was able to get into a large number of articles due to this status. However, it was eventually revealed that Bright had been responsible for pedophilic actions going back a decade, and thus he was cast out and banned from the Wiki. Another prominent admin and writer, djkaktus, created the Elias Shaw character and used him as a replacement for Bright, with this name increasingly beginning to take over Bright's roles with all traces of Bright's presence being Unperson slowly scrubbed off the wiki.[[/labelnote]]
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* There is a lot of controversy surrounding the character of Jack Bright and his replacement Elias Shaw. Some fans state that Bright's character is not inherently the same as his real-life counterpart and that he's a major part of the Foundation's lore, while detractors claim that Bright was mostly a bad writer insert and that they would be more than happy to see them and every trace of their existence gone. There is also the camp of people who are unaware of the issues surrounding the name "Bright".[[labelnote:Full context of the drama]]Dr. Jack Bright was the self-insert of a major SCP wiki admin named Admin Bright, and thus was able to get into a large number of articles due to this status. However, it was eventually revealed that Bright had been responsible for pedophilic actions going back a decade, and thus he was cast out and banned from the Wiki. Another prominent admin and writer, djkaktus, created the Elias Shaw character and used him as a replacement for Bright, with this name increasingly beginning to take over Bright's roles with all traces of Bright's presence being Unperson slowly scrubbed off the wiki.[[/labelnote]]
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* A recent trend in newer SCP articles is the focus on Meta-narratives, usually revolving around {{AuthorAvatars}}, canonicity, and generally dealing with things related to metacommentary. Some fans like this style of approach, as it allows [=SCPs=] to explore creative themes surrounding story-telling and creativity. Others, however, just find them pretentious and incredibly boring, believing that they go against what SCP was about, that being weird anomalies. It doesn't help most meta-focused articles tend to be some of the longest on the site. You'll be hard-pressed to find people who feel neutral towards them.

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* A recent trend in newer SCP articles is the focus on Meta-narratives, usually revolving around {{AuthorAvatars}}, {{Author Avatar}}s, canonicity, and generally dealing with things related to metacommentary. Some fans like this style of approach, as it allows [=SCPs=] to explore creative themes surrounding story-telling and creativity. Others, however, just find them pretentious and incredibly boring, believing that they go against what SCP was about, that being weird anomalies. It doesn't help most meta-focused articles tend to be some of the longest on the site. You'll be hard-pressed to find people who feel neutral towards them.
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* A recent trend in newer SCP articles is the focus on Meta-narratives, usually revolving around {{AuthorAvatars}}, canonicity, and generally dealing with things related to metacommentary. Some fans like this style of approach, as it allows SCPs to explore creative themes surrounding story-telling and creativity. Others, however, just find them pretentious and incredibly boring, believing that they go against what SCP was about, that being weird anomalies. It doesn't help most meta-focused articles tend to be some of the longest on the site. You'll be hard-pressed to find people who feel neutral towards them.

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* A recent trend in newer SCP articles is the focus on Meta-narratives, usually revolving around {{AuthorAvatars}}, canonicity, and generally dealing with things related to metacommentary. Some fans like this style of approach, as it allows SCPs [=SCPs=] to explore creative themes surrounding story-telling and creativity. Others, however, just find them pretentious and incredibly boring, believing that they go against what SCP was about, that being weird anomalies. It doesn't help most meta-focused articles tend to be some of the longest on the site. You'll be hard-pressed to find people who feel neutral towards them.
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* A recent trend in newer SCP articles is the focus on Meta-narratives, usually revolving around {{AuthorAvatars}}, canonicity, and generally dealing with things related to metacommentary. Some fans like this style of approach, as it allows SCPs to explore creative themes surrounding story-telling and creativity. Others, however, just find them pretentious and incredibly boring, believing that they go against what SCP was about, that being weird anomalies. It doesn't help most meta-focused articles tend to be some of the longest on the site. You'll be hard-pressed to find people who feel neutral towards them.
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** A common reason for downvoting & criticism of long or heavily format screwed articles is that the author is "disguising a tale as an SCP". It is viewed as bad because it promotes indulgent prose, that the SCP objects in these long articles are often a boring FramingDevice that wouldn't survive as a short article, encourages cliquey behaviour from the top writers who are the only people likely to get away with such articles, dilutes the basis for the website itself and devalues the actual tales section of the site.

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** * A common reason for downvoting & criticism of long or heavily format screwed articles is that the author is "disguising a tale as an SCP". It is viewed as bad because it promotes indulgent prose, that the SCP objects in these long articles are often a boring FramingDevice that wouldn't survive as a short article, encourages cliquey behaviour from the top writers who are the only people likely to get away with such articles, dilutes the basis for the website itself and devalues the actual tales section of the site.
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* [[https://scp-wiki.wikidot.com/scp-2719 SCP-2719]] is divided into two camps: either you get what it's saying and all its horrifying implications, or you don't get it because the [[BeigeProse laconic format]] and techno-babble makes the thing nigh-incomprehensible.

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* [[https://scp-wiki.wikidot.com/scp-2719 SCP-2719]] is divided into two camps: either you get what it's saying and all its horrifying implications, or you don't get it because the [[BeigeProse laconic format]] and techno-babble TechnoBabble makes the thing nigh-incomprehensible.

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