Line #7 BrokenBase/SCPFoundation


1	* Older canon information makes end-month D-class termination mandatory. Discussing the ethical, practical, and out-of-universe artistic use of this protocol on any part of the wiki is bound to cause some heated discussions.
2	* Related to the light-hearted articles, any SCP that clearly aims for comedy will ignite an inevitable discussion that the page should be a non-main listed, PlayedForLaughs "-J" (Joke) article.
3	* Generally speaking, there's a clear divide with both the fanbase and the authors over whether or not [=SCPs=] and the entirety of the [=SCP-Verse=] should stay focused on mostly horror or be allowed to branch out into any genre possible.
4	* The site itself was hit hard by this when they changed their logo to a pride flag during pride month 2018. Detractors felt that changing the logo broke immersion, since it implied that the morally grey, vaguely dystopian Foundation celebrated pride month. Supporters pointed out that the Foundation is not real, the site is run by people who support LGBT rights, and that changing the logo has nothing to do with how the Foundation operates in-universe, beyond being a neat way to show support for marginalized people. [[http://05command.wikidot.com/forum/t-6186027/discussion-thread:our-response-to-social-media-fiasco Failure to punish ostensibly pro-staff counter-trolls on the official subreddit, inflammatory posts by staff members on the Foundation's official social media account and subreddit that equated all criticism with bigotry, and excessively heavy-handed treatment of dissenting users]] further broke the base. The controversy ultimately died down following the reversal of wrongful bans and the resignation of the staff most responsible for amplifying the controversy, though a few pages adopting a permanent version of the SCP pride logo in the wake of the matter. Even so, the controversy led to quite a few writers to defect from the site and to create a SpiritualSuccessor that better reflected their preferences, the ''Website/RPCAuthority''.
5	* There is now a ongoing sentiment that newer [=SCPs=] are too complicated, long, or otherwise needlessly detailed. Some have gone as far to say that the original 1-999 line are the only "canon" or good SCPS. A common rebuttal is the fact that while the simplicity of earlier articles have their charm, it would have killed off the fandom for the concepts allowed under this continued style since there would be no more ideas to explore, and there are plenty of SCP with simpler concepts today, they're just more rare. Particularly radical believers of the former sentiment and/or gatekeepers will actually respond with agreeing and even wishing for said scenario to happen.
6	* A recent trend in newer SCP articles is the focus on Meta-narratives, usually revolving around {{Author Avatar}}s, canonicity, and generally dealing with things related to metacommentary. Some fans like this style of approach, as it allows [=SCPs=] to explore creative themes surrounding story-telling and creativity. Others, however, just find them pretentious and incredibly boring, believing that they go against what SCP was about, that being weird anomalies. It doesn't help most meta-focused articles tend to be some of the longest on the site. You'll be hard-pressed to find people who feel neutral towards them.
7	* [[https://scp-wiki.wikidot.com/scp-166 SCP-166]] originally known as "Teenage Succubus", was a controversial article that included graphic sexual imagery regarding a ''minor,'' which many people found very uncomfortable to read due to the apparent fetishistic overtones of the article. Defenders say that this was intentional and that the reader is ''supposed'' to feel disturbed by it, detractors argue that despite the intent it still reads like a rape fantasy. The article was re-written to become "Teenage Gaea" but this has caused more division as even some people who hated the old article now think it is too bland by comparison and drastically changes part of the first few [=SCPs=] to the point of being a completely separate SCP, while others say it is a great article in its own right.
8	* [[https://scp-wiki.wikidot.com/scp-579 SCP-579]] expunge nearly all details about it, leaving only the fact that the foundation is ''very'' careful in making sure it remains contained. Some believe it's a perfect demonstration of [[ParanoiaFuel exactly what makes most SCPs scary]], while others believe it lacks a "hook" to draw the reader in and is simply a product of lazy writing.
9	* [[https://scp-wiki.wikidot.com/scp-590 SCP-590]] is criticized by some for painting the Foundation as [[KickTheDog unnecessarily cruel]] and requiring extended knowledge of the author's other original characters to fully understand, while others enjoy it for being short and poignant (and/or because they're already fans of the author's other original characters) and chalk up the difference in tone to EarlyInstallmentWeirdness.
10	* [[https://scp-wiki.wikidot.com/scp-2212 SCP-2212]] is praised for an intriguing gimmick that each supplement is a puzzle, but the SCP itself is found underwhelming and without a clear reason for the InterfaceScrew. The SCP was also never finished, which didn't help, and actually led to a second broken base: some people think that the SCP should be taken down because it wasn't finished and will probably never be finished, while others believe that it's complete enough to deserve to remain.
11	* [[https://scp-wiki.wikidot.com/scp-2718 SCP-2718]]. Some praise its ambition, gradual build-up and terrifying, detailed [[TheReveal reveal]]. Others feel the article is bloated, dislike the PurpleProse in the last section, and bring up the fact that it's not clear what the designation SCP-2718 actually ''designates''.[[note]]2718 is likely either: That being exposed to the cognitohazard makes you believe what Roger went through happens to everyone and believing in an afterlife is where your afterlife comes from so being exposed means you suffer unending torture after death, or that "the cognitohazard" is a cover for learning Roger's description of what happens after you die, which is so horrifying that it cannot be allowed to be known by ''anyone'' because it is figuratively soul destroying to find out the truth.[[/note]]
12	* [[https://scp-wiki.wikidot.com/scp-2719 SCP-2719]] is divided into two camps: either you get what it's saying and all its horrifying implications, or you don't get it because the [[BeigeProse laconic format]] and TechnoBabble makes the thing nigh-incomprehensible.
13	* [[https://scp-wiki.wikidot.com/scp-3309 SCP-3309, "Where We Go When We Fade, Fade Away"]]. It is a '''very''' controversial article among established/veteran authors, as when it was first released many saw it as yet another example of a pretentious meta-focused article that relied on a "gimmick" (namely, [[spoiler:the forum posts]]) to draw the reader in. In contrast, the majority of people inclined to upvote and praise [=SCP-3309=] have tended to be newer members and contributors to the site, who appreciate how the article is a meta-reflection of the new author experience and the uphill battle an author must fight to get their first creative work to actually "stick" on the wiki.
14	* [[https://scp-wiki.wikidot.com/scp-3999 SCP-3999, "I Am At The Center Of Everything That Happens To Me"]]. Despite being one of the highest-rated articles on the entire site, it has fallen into this due to how it became the primary TropeCodifier for bizarre meta-narrative focused articles. While the article itself is praised for its implementation of SurrealHorror and how its method of BreakingTheFourthWall is presented in a legitimately frightening way, many newer readers have turned against it by complaining that the article's popularity is responsible for the massive glut of meta-narrative articles along with feeling that the article has an over-reliance concerning PaintingTheMedium to the point where it just comes across as incomprehensible.
15	* [[https://scp-wiki.wikidot.com/scp-4231 SCP-4231, "The Montauk House"]]. It's beautifully written and serves as an excellent backstory to SCP-231 and SCP-2317 (as well as a lot of other site lore, including [[spoiler:Alto Clef]]). However, it's also one of the longest articles (if not ''the'' longest article) on the site, and ninety-five percent of it is written as a Tale - leading some people to downvote it simply because it's an InterfaceScrew that takes an incredibly long time to read. Its graphic depictions of rape and sexual assault also raise a few eyebrows, although the general consensus is that it portrays the topic as respectfully as possible.
16	* [[https://scp-wiki.wikidot.com/scp-5004 SCP-5004, djkaktus's 5000 contest entry]] was at one point so downvoted it was a candidate for deletion, whereas now it has a rating comfortably in the hundreds. It inspired arguments that resulted in at least one user being banned. Some saw it as enjoyably over-the-top, ridiculous in an appealing and funny way, and having an interesting premise, whereas others saw it as obnoxious, unfunny, and a blatant retread of 4444[[note]] both articles concern the Foundation having to reluctantly support a Republican presidential candidate, and include several well-known author avatar characters from the Foundation's early days[[/note]], the author's previous [[MilestoneCelebration -000 contest]] entry.
17	* [[https://scp-wiki.wikidot.com/scp-6013 SCP-6013]] has a unique gimmick where [[EldritchAbomination Raya's]] and some of [[MindRape Langford's]] dialogue is written in a made-up language, which the reader can translate using a provided dictionary. The discussion segment is filled primarily with two kinds of comments; Those who love it and think the translation gimmick was a good way to get the reader invested in the article, and those who felt the gimmick was frustrating to deal with and reduced their enjoyment of the article.
18	* [[https://scp-wiki.wikidot.com/scp-6140 SCP-6140 - The True Empire]], a deconstructive reinterpretation of [[https://scp-wiki.wikidot.com/scp-140 SCP-140]], in which [[spoiler:the Daevite Empire as it existed in the SCP universe is largely the result of a Victorian's crazed and orientalist reinterpretation of the worst excesses of their ancient past as redefining their entire civilization]]. While (most) readers understand the intent and moral and appreciate the writing and construction of the article itself, division arises as to whether or not it represents fair criticism of the original SCP-140 article, whether or not it fully understands all the SCP lore it attempts to use, or whether or not the situation it presents is too contrived to properly convey the message it's trying to get across. A smaller group simply takes offense to radically rewriting a long-standing part of the site's canon, presumably without the permission of the original author.
19	* [[https://scp-wiki.wikidot.com/djkaktus-s-proposal-iii/offset/1 The Way it Ends]], part 4 of the [[https://scp-wiki.wikidot.com/ouroboros Ouroboros Cycle]], is generally considered a good story, connecting three of the best 001 proposals into one story that involves the true nature of the Foundation, the Chaos Insurgency and making excellent use of biblical themes. However, a lot of readers feel that Calvin and his squad of O5 killers have ''ridiculous'' PlotArmor. Not only do they actually ''succeed'' in killing the entire O5 council, but they do so after surviving stuff that should've killed them multiple times over, including close quarter combat with 682, MTF Tau-5 (''Samsara'') and ''The Flesh that Hates.''
20	* The ''entirety'' of the [[DarkerAndEdgier Site-17 Deepwell]] canon has become an intensely controversial subject. Fans will be quick to praise the darker take on the Foundation and general tone of the stories, as well as the introduction of some unique concepts and memorable articles. Detractors will argue that said articles often have the Foundation acting [[IdiotBall completely idiotically]] for no reason other than that [[VillainBall the author wants them to be as evil as possible]], and that the entire canon is trying so hard to be grimdark that it ends up being [[{{Narm}} impossible to take seriously]].[[note]]An in-universe explanation for this is offered in the form of the OriginsEpisode SCP-4755 (where the Foundation learns they are fast-tracked to achieve an AbstractApotheosis over the concept of containment, therefore ruling over all of reality as it is also the basic requirement for all other concepts), but the exact connections are only implied and never stated in the article itself. In fact, 4755's general theme is that the Foundation would sooner reject their destiny than accept the SCP's reality if they had a means to do so.[[/note]] There's also the subject of the "ADMONITION" sub-canon, which has only fractured the base further between those who consider it a worthy part of the Deepwell canon, those who find it a MorePopularSpinoff of the canon due to avoiding some of the above mistakes[[note]]In general, the ADMONITION Foundation is generally portrayed as more [[SuicidalOverconfidence recklessly overconfident]] rather than gratuitiously evil[[/note]], those who are turned off by the extremely technical and overly wordy style of the articles, and those who are simply turned away by the association with Site-17 Deepwell as a whole.
21	* The reaction to the [[ResignationsNotAccepted Fire Suppression Department]]. Fans think that it's really good, dark and a realistic take on how the Foundation would handle personnel it desperately needs to stay wanting to quit. Detractors think that it's way ''too'' dark; that while the gimmick retains its punch through the first couple of articles, future articles lose the edge because you already know what's going to happen; and that it destroys the idea of "the Foundation is cold, not cruel".
22	* There is a lot of controversy surrounding the character of Jack Bright and his replacement Elias Shaw. Some fans state that Bright's character is not inherently the same as his real-life counterpart and that he's a major part of the Foundation's lore, while detractors claim that Bright was mostly a bad writer insert and that they would be more than happy to see them and every trace of their existence gone. There is also the camp of people who are unaware of the issues surrounding the name "Bright".[[labelnote:Full context of the drama]]Dr. Jack Bright was the self-insert of a major SCP wiki admin named Admin Bright, and thus was able to get into a large number of articles due to this status. However, it was eventually revealed that Bright had been responsible for pedophilic actions going back a decade, and thus he was cast out and banned from the Wiki. Another prominent writer, djkaktus, created the Elias Shaw character and used him as a replacement for Bright, with this name increasingly beginning to take over Bright's roles with all traces of Bright's presence being slowly scrubbed off the wiki.[[/labelnote]]

Context BrokenBase / SCPFoundation