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** Adding to the controversy is the fact that William [[JokerImmunity can't seem to stay dead]], or rather comes keeps coming back after supposedly dying. His survival after ''VideoGame/FiveNightsAtFreddys3'' wasn't ''too'' much of a sore point with the fandom, since it had already [[TheEndOrIsIt been teased]] in that game; however, ''VideoGame/FreddyFazbearsPizzeriaSimulator'' seemed designed to perfectly end his story, seeing him and all his creations- intentional or otherwise- finally meet a fiery end. His survival in the franchise after that point, both in the form of Glitchtrap in ''VideoGame/FiveNightsAtFreddysHelpWanted'' and as [[spoiler:the spirit possessing most of the animatronics]] in ''Literature/FiveNightsAtFreddysFazbearFrights'', has led to some fans saying that he has overstayed his welcome as BigBad and hoping he gets officially replaced, either by Vanny or by another new villain, from ''Security Breach'' onward.

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** Adding to the controversy is the fact that William [[JokerImmunity can't seem to stay dead]], or rather comes keeps coming back after supposedly dying. His survival after ''VideoGame/FiveNightsAtFreddys3'' wasn't ''too'' much of a sore point with the fandom, since it had already [[TheEndOrIsIt been teased]] in that game; however, ''VideoGame/FreddyFazbearsPizzeriaSimulator'' seemed designed to perfectly end his story, seeing him and all his creations- intentional or otherwise- finally meet a fiery end. His survival in the franchise after that point, both in the form of Glitchtrap in ''VideoGame/FiveNightsAtFreddysHelpWanted'' ''VideoGame/FiveNightsAtFreddysVRHelpWanted'' and as [[spoiler:the spirit possessing most of the animatronics]] in ''Literature/FiveNightsAtFreddysFazbearFrights'', has led to some fans saying that he has overstayed his welcome as BigBad and hoping he gets officially replaced, either by Vanny or by another new villain, from ''Security Breach'' onward.
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* The fact that [[spoiler:William is ''once again'' [[HijackedByGanon the main villain]]]] is something of a divisive point among fans, as is the fact that said character is now essentially [[spoiler:a sentient computer virus having infected potentially ''hundreds'' of Fazbear Entertainment products, having hijacked the power of Golden Freddy to do so]]. Some groups are just fine with it, seeing it as a way of averting the VillainDecay that William underwent after the fifth and sixth games (and the second and third novels) slowly turned him into more and more of a MadScientist, as well as opening up a ''massive'' opportunity for both further stories and [[Main/FanficFuel fanfics]]. Other camps are frustrated to essentially have it confirmed that [[spoiler:William [[KarmaHoudini escaped his fate]] yet again]], seeing the sixth game as the perfect ending for [[spoiler:his]] story arc, with both this game and ''Help Wanted'' performing a HappyEndingOverride. The fact that "The Man in Room 1280" also implies that [[spoiler:the events of ''VideoGame/UltimateCustomNight'' were '''not''' William's personal hell, but rather a BattleInTheCenterOfTheMind between him and Andrew,]] has only added fuel to the fire.

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* The fact that [[spoiler:William is ''once again'' [[HijackedByGanon the main villain]]]] is something of a divisive point among fans, as is the fact that said character is now essentially [[spoiler:a sentient computer virus having infected potentially ''hundreds'' of Fazbear Entertainment products, having hijacked the power of Golden Freddy to do so]]. Some groups are just fine with it, seeing it as a way of averting the VillainDecay that William underwent after the fifth and sixth games (and the second and third novels) slowly turned him into more and more of a MadScientist, as well as opening up a ''massive'' opportunity for both further stories and [[Main/FanficFuel fanfics]]. Other camps are frustrated to essentially have it confirmed that [[spoiler:William [[KarmaHoudini escaped his fate]] yet again]], seeing the sixth game as the perfect ending for [[spoiler:his]] story arc, with both this game these books and ''Help Wanted'' performing a HappyEndingOverride. The fact that "The Man in Room 1280" also implies that [[spoiler:the events of ''VideoGame/UltimateCustomNight'' were '''not''' William's personal hell, but rather a BattleInTheCenterOfTheMind between him and Andrew,]] has only added fuel to the fire.

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* The fact that [[spoiler:William is ''once again'' [[HijackedByGanon the main villain]]]] is something of a divisive point among fans, as is the fact that said character is now essentially [[spoiler:a sentient computer virus having infected potentially ''hundreds'' of Fazbear Entertainment products, having hijacked the power of Golden Freddy to do so]]. Some groups are just fine with it, seeing it as a way of averting the VillainDecay that William underwent after the fifth and sixth games (and the second and third novels) slowly turned him into more and more of a MadScientist, as well as opening up a ''massive'' opportunity for both further stories and [[Main/FanficFuel fanfics]]. Other camps are frustrated to essentially have it confirmed that [[spoiler:William [[KarmaHoudini escaped his fate]] yet again]], seeing the sixth game as the perfect ending for [[spoiler:his]] story arc, with both this game and ''Help Wanted'' performing a HappyEndingOverride. The fact that "The Man in Room 1280" also implies that [[spoiler:the events of ''VideoGame/UltimateCustomNight'' were '''not''' William's personal hell, but rather a BattleInTheCenterOfTheMind between him and Andrew,]] has only added fuel to the fire.



** Another thing they hate is the fact that he can't stay dead. A part of the fandom wishes for William to die for good in the upcoming ''Security Breach'' so we can focus on a new villain, Vanny.

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** Another thing they hate Adding to the controversy is the fact that he William [[JokerImmunity can't seem to stay dead. A part dead]], or rather comes keeps coming back after supposedly dying. His survival after ''VideoGame/FiveNightsAtFreddys3'' wasn't ''too'' much of a sore point with the fandom, since it had already [[TheEndOrIsIt been teased]] in that game; however, ''VideoGame/FreddyFazbearsPizzeriaSimulator'' seemed designed to perfectly end his story, seeing him and all his creations- intentional or otherwise- finally meet a fiery end. His survival in the franchise after that point, both in the form of Glitchtrap in ''VideoGame/FiveNightsAtFreddysHelpWanted'' and as [[spoiler:the spirit possessing most of the fandom wishes for William animatronics]] in ''Literature/FiveNightsAtFreddysFazbearFrights'', has led to die for good in the upcoming some fans saying that he has overstayed his welcome as BigBad and hoping he gets officially replaced, either by Vanny or by another new villain, from ''Security Breach'' so we can focus on a new villain, Vanny.onward.

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* There is also the announcement of a possible [[TheMovie movie]]. Some are extremely excited for it, some are [[VideoGameMoviesSuck convinced it will flop]], and some are simply indifferent.
* The lore. Many people consider it to be the main draw of the series, and praise how intricate it is. More cynical observers say that a lot of the story's depth comes from people overthinking minor details, and the plot points that invite the most speculation are really people mistaking inconsistencies for complexity. One of the biggest factors in the split is how intricate and complex it became over time, with arguments over whether or not the lore is even solvable.

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* There is also the announcement of a possible [[TheMovie movie]]. Some are extremely excited for it, some are [[VideoGameMoviesSuck convinced it will flop]], and some are simply indifferent.
* The lore. Many people consider it to be lore:
** Whether its
the main draw of the series, and praise how intricate series. Those for it is. More cynical observers say feel that the game itself is just a lot sideshow, with the story being the true reward for progressing and beating the games. Others consider the story an afterthought, preferring the gameplay, jumpscares and reactions from various [=YouTubers=].
** The fact that much
of the story's depth comes from people overthinking minor details, lore has to be actively sought and the plot points figured out. Those for it feel that invite the search and EpilepticTrees is the most speculation are really people mistaking inconsistencies for complexity. engaging part of the lore and that finding it is more rewarding than just having it spoonfed. Others feel frustrated at the lengths it takes to find everything and feel it isn't worth the effort when its so ambiguous most of the time, in addition to Scott rarely explicitly clarifying anything himself. One of the biggest factors in the split is how intricate and complex it the lore became over time, with arguments further debates breaking out over whether or not the lore is even solvable.solvable.
* Mangle's AmbiguousGender is infamous for the astronomical flame wars it has caused. Every game since ''2'' has given Mangle various characteristics, dialogue, counterparts or flavor text that always leaves it ambiguous and provides evidence for both sides, causing arguments to flare up whenever Mangle or its counterparts were confirmed for a game. Scott, TrollingCreator he is, only gave either inconclusive answers or straight up trolled both sides of the argument, presumably to keep it ambiguous. To this day, Mangle has no confirmed canon gender and fans have since debated their own answers ranging from girl, boy, none, one gender for each counterpart and [[MathematiciansAnswer yes]].




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* TheReveal that the game is a prequel to the original game. One side praised it as an amazing twist that [[TheEndingChangesEverything changed their view of the entire game]], while the other side criticized it for being a seemingly nonsensical twist that made little sense.

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* TheReveal that the The game is being a prequel StealthPrequel to the original game. One side praised it as an amazing twist that [[TheEndingChangesEverything changed their view of the entire game]], while the other side criticized it for being a seemingly nonsensical twist that made little sense.



* The game's big reveal fell into controversy [[spoiler:when a [[http://i3.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/newsfeed/000/996/089/343 certain scene]] hinted that the events of the game may have taken place four years prior to '87. Fans became split on whether this was a RedHerring or something else entirely]], to the point where the fights got ''very'' toxic on the official subreddit. Even Wiki/ThisVeryWiki's pages were split over which side was true. Suffice to say, there were a large amount of clues both supporting and refuting the date. Scott's confirmation that Nightmare BB was canon did nothing to ease the confusion. The debate was eventually settled when Scott praised Game Theory's "The Final Theory" video for getting the year correct, confirming that the game's minigames [[spoiler:do indeed take place in 1983, instead of 1987.]]

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* The game's big reveal fell into controversy [[spoiler:when a [[http://i3.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/newsfeed/000/996/089/343 certain scene]] hinted that the events of the game minigames may have taken place four years prior to '87. '87.]] Fans became split on whether this was a RedHerring or something else entirely]], entirely, to the point where the fights debates got ''very'' toxic on the official subreddit. Even Wiki/ThisVeryWiki's pages were split over which side was true.toxic. Suffice to say, there were a large amount of clues both supporting and refuting the date. Scott's confirmation that Nightmare BB was canon did nothing to ease the confusion. The debate was eventually settled when Scott praised commended Game Theory's "The Final Theory" video for getting the year correct, confirming that the game's minigames [[spoiler:do indeed take place in 1983, instead of 1987.]]



* [[spoiler:Do the Five Nights take place before or after the bite?]] There is evidence to back both assumptions up.
* Hell, '''WHEN DO THE NIGHTS TAKE PLACE, AND WHO HAS THEM?!''' There is evidence that backs up the player being [[spoiler: Michael Afton somewhere between the first and sixth game]] or [[spoiler: the Crying Child before or after The Bite.]]

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* [[spoiler:Do When do the Five Nights five nights take place before or after and, in addition, who is the bite?]] There is evidence to back both assumptions up.
* Hell, '''WHEN DO THE NIGHTS TAKE PLACE, AND WHO HAS THEM?!'''
one having them? There is evidence that backs up the player being [[spoiler: Michael Afton somewhere between [[spoiler:the older brother sometime after the first and sixth game]] bite]] or [[spoiler: the [[spoiler:the Crying Child before or after The Bite.]]



* The [[AmbiguousGender gender]] debate for Funtime Foxy/Mangle sparked yet again. Some aspects of the game implied that it was male, such as the absence of [[TertiarySexualCharacteristics long eyelashes]] and a more masculine torso compared to its depiction in ''FNAF World''. Points in favor of it being female were long fingernails, a trait that is almost ''always'' applied to women, and lipstick (although those could be explained as claws and clown makeup respectively). To make matters worse, Funtime Foxy is referred to with no pronouns on the first night, "he" on the second night, then "she" on the third, and is the only animatronic to [[TheSpeechless remain silent for the whole game]]. This was likely intentional on [[TrollingCreator Scott's]] part.
** The Custom Night description calls Funtime Foxy male, but it also appears in a challenge called "Girls' Night," not unlike Mangle in ''2''. This lead to two assumptions: Scott made a mistake and left a typo or [[TrollingCreator he was doing it on purpose.]]
* The Custom Night's revelation that [[spoiler:you play as the BigBad's son, [[RememberTheNewGuy who was implied to have been the Purple Guy seen in at least some of the minigames throughout the franchise]] (and [[AmbiguousSituation maybe even]] Springtrap), and ''not'' his father as initially assumed]]. Depending on who you asked, this was either a brilliant PlotTwist that made one eager for a sequel, or [[ShockingSwerve a needless, out of nowhere]] and complicated retcon to [[KudzuPlot an already bloated and complicated story]], which also served to [[spoiler:[[HappyEndingOverride cheapen]] ''Videogame/FiveNightsAtFreddys3'' and it's [[EarnYourHappyEnding ending]]]]. This eventually died down when ''VideoGame/FreddyFazbearsPizzeriaSimulator'' confirmed that [[spoiler:William Afton was Springtrap, not Mike.]]
* [[EpilepticTrees The "Experiment Theory"]], which posits that the events of ''4'' were engineered and monitored by the Purple Guy/William Afton from [[spoiler:the Private Room]] as some sort of experiment. Some like this idea for reasons similar to the above-mentioned Custom Night twist, while others see it as far-fetched and breaking their WillingSuspensionOfDisbelief, since what was once a fairly realistic child murderer was slowly becoming a cartoonish MadScientist. A related theory posits ''the entire series'' was done by Afton as some sort of experiment with creating life, which naturally results in both sides being more heated on the issue. ''The Silver Eyes'' universe going along with this interpretation doesn't help.
** Recently, more people seem to agree that the theory is false.

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* The [[AmbiguousGender gender]] debate for Funtime Foxy/Mangle sparked yet again. Some aspects of the game implied that it was male, such as the absence of [[TertiarySexualCharacteristics long eyelashes]] and a more masculine torso compared to its depiction in ''FNAF World''. Points in favor of it being female were long fingernails, a trait that is almost ''always'' applied to women, and lipstick (although those could be explained as claws and clown makeup respectively). To make matters worse, Funtime Foxy is referred to with no pronouns on the first night, "he" on the second night, then "she" on the third, and is the only animatronic to [[TheSpeechless remain silent for the whole game]]. This was likely intentional on [[TrollingCreator Scott's]] part.
** The Custom Night description calls Funtime Foxy male, but it also appears in a challenge called "Girls' Night," not unlike Mangle in ''2''. This lead to two assumptions: Scott made a mistake and left a typo or [[TrollingCreator he was doing it on purpose.]]
* The Custom Night's revelation that [[spoiler:you play as the BigBad's son, [[RememberTheNewGuy who was implied to have been [[TomatoInTheMirror with the implication that you are the Purple Guy seen in at least some of the minigames throughout the franchise]] series]] (and [[AmbiguousSituation maybe even]] Springtrap), and ''not'' his father as initially assumed]]. Depending on who you asked, this was either a brilliant PlotTwist that made one eager for a sequel, or [[ShockingSwerve a needless, out of nowhere]] and complicated retcon to [[KudzuPlot an already bloated and complicated story]], which also served to [[spoiler:[[HappyEndingOverride cheapen]] ''Videogame/FiveNightsAtFreddys3'' and it's [[EarnYourHappyEnding ending]]]]. This eventually died down when WordOfGod and ''VideoGame/FreddyFazbearsPizzeriaSimulator'' confirmed that [[spoiler:William Afton was Springtrap, not Mike.]]
* [[EpilepticTrees The "Experiment Theory"]], which posits that the events of ''4'' were engineered and monitored by the Purple Guy/William Afton from [[spoiler:the Private Room]] as some sort of experiment. Some like this idea for reasons similar to the above-mentioned Custom Night twist, while others see it as far-fetched and breaking their WillingSuspensionOfDisbelief, since what was once a fairly realistic child murderer was slowly becoming a cartoonish MadScientist. A related theory posits ''the entire series'' was done by Afton as some sort of experiment with creating life, which naturally results in both sides being more heated on the issue. ''The Silver Eyes'' universe going along with this interpretation doesn't help.
** Recently, more people
help. Most of the fanbase seem to agree that the theory is false.



* As one might have expected, the fandom was divided between those who thought the new direction was the wrong way to go and went against everything the original series was about and those who were simply excited to have a new game or were actually looking forward to the UnexpectedGameplayChange.
* The [[http://i.imgur.com/cw14g7W.jpg teaser]] showcasing the animatronic's appearances for the game also showed what Mangle looked like before being mangled, re-igniting the gender wars and tearing the fanbase asunder.
** Shortly after this new spark, [[http://41.media.tumblr.com/eb44f38adb0114df08b636be893fbbb4/tumblr_nuuivyyZEN1u2kzbyo2_r1_1280.jpg Scott answered]] "Is Mangle a boy or a girl" with [[MathematiciansAnswer "Yes"]]. Fans were divided between interpreting this as Scott either [[TrollingCreator trolling the fanbase]], informing us that Mangle does have a gender but wouldn't reveal it to keep both parties happy, or that [[ExactlyWhatItSaysOnTheTin Mangle's gender ''is'' "yes".]]
* Likewise, the reveal of pristine Spring Bonnie showing the animatronic with 'feminine' eyelashes caused quite a few fans to speak out against it, with some of them even going so far as to consider it an UnsettlingGenderReveal (never mind the fact that Toy Bonnie, who also has eyelashes, was confirmed to be male).

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* As one might have expected, the fandom was divided between those who thought the new game's direction was the wrong way to go and went against everything the original series was about and those who were simply excited to have a new game or were actually looking forward to the UnexpectedGameplayChange.
* The [[http://i.imgur.com/cw14g7W.jpg teaser]] showcasing the animatronic's appearances for the game also showed what Mangle looked like before being mangled, re-igniting the gender wars and tearing the fanbase asunder.
** Shortly after this new spark, [[http://41.media.tumblr.com/eb44f38adb0114df08b636be893fbbb4/tumblr_nuuivyyZEN1u2kzbyo2_r1_1280.jpg Scott answered]] "Is Mangle a boy or a girl" with [[MathematiciansAnswer "Yes"]]. Fans were divided between interpreting this as Scott either [[TrollingCreator trolling the fanbase]], informing us that Mangle does have a gender but wouldn't reveal it to keep both parties happy, or that [[ExactlyWhatItSaysOnTheTin Mangle's gender ''is'' "yes".]]
* Likewise, the reveal of
pristine Spring Bonnie showing the animatronic with having 'feminine' eyelashes caused quite a few fans to speak out against it, with some of them even going so far as to consider it an UnsettlingGenderReveal (never mind the fact UnsettlingGenderReveal, while others felt this didn't necessarily mean Spring Bonnie was female, pointing out that Toy Bonnie, who also has eyelashes, was confirmed to be male).male.



!! ''VideoGame/FreddyFazbearsPizzeriaSimulator''
* Springtrap's design in this game was the subject of heavy debating on its reveal, with it becoming better-known, and referred to from ''UCN'' onward, as Scraptrap. Those who liked the design felt that such a drastic change was natural given the already-deteriorating Springtrap had to survive a fire and an unknown amount of time has passed since then, likely necessitating having more damage and using new parts to justify his design change. Those against it felt it was way too drastic of a change to the point that it looked UncannyValley [[UpToEleven even by the standards of FNAF animatronics]] and made Springtrap look so unrecognizable that people weren't even sure it was him at first.




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* The Toy animatronics in the second game are designed to be more colorful, childish, and feminine than their older counterparts, as shown by Toy Bonnie and Mangle, while the classic animatronics (except for Foxy) appear to have been pushed to the side and left in states of disrepair. Fans were divided on whether the Toy animatronics are as good as the classic ones and whether or not they are scary. The biggest Base Breakers of the group are Toy Chica and Mangle.
** Toy Chica. She has a more humanoid body and shorts that look like ''panties'' at first glance. Fans found her "sexualized" look either funny, disgusting, or disturbing and unnerving. (As for the third group, considering this is a horror game, they mean it in a good way.) Similarly, the fact that she takes off her beak and eyes is either horrifying to look at or, as Wiki/ThisVeryWiki points out, makes her look like either Pikachu or a yellow M&M.
** Mangle. Mangle itself isn't really the polarizing kind of base breaker. Moreso, its gender is one. Some believe it is female as it has feminine traits (Pink and white coloring, eyelashes) and appears on the Ladies' Night preset. The ones who believe it is male say that it might've been added just to make Ladies' Night harder, and that it's based off of the male Foxy. Others TakeAThirdOption and say its gender ''is'' "yes", thanks to a MathematiciansAnswer given by Scott.

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* The Toy animatronics in the second game are designed to be more colorful, childish, and feminine than their older counterparts, as shown by Toy Bonnie and Mangle, while the classic animatronics (except for Foxy) appear to have been pushed to the side and left in states of disrepair. Fans were divided on whether the Toy animatronics are as good as the classic ones and whether or not they are scary. The biggest Base Breakers of the group are Toy Chica and Mangle.
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** Toy Chica. She has a more humanoid body and shorts that look like ''panties'' at first glance. Fans found her "sexualized" look either funny, disgusting, or fittingly disturbing and unnerving. (As for the third group, considering this is a horror game, they mean it in a good way.) Similarly, the fact that she takes off her beak and eyes is either horrifying to look at or, as Wiki/ThisVeryWiki points out, or makes her look like either Pikachu or a yellow M&M.
** Mangle. Mangle itself isn't really the polarizing kind of base breaker. Moreso, its gender is one. Some believe it is female as it has feminine traits (Pink and white coloring, eyelashes) and appears on the Ladies' Night preset. The ones who believe it is male say that it might've been added just to make Ladies' Night harder, and that it's based off of the male Foxy. Others TakeAThirdOption and say its gender ''is'' "yes", thanks to a MathematiciansAnswer given by Scott.
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* The older brother in [=FNAF4=]. Is he an irredeemable jackass or just a dumb kid who made a TragicMistake? The fact that he's [[spoiler: a son of William]] and the fact that he's implied to be [[spoiler: Michael Afton A.K.A Mike Schmidt]] only divides people further on whether [[spoiler: he redeemed himself or if its too little, too late.]]

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* The older brother in [=FNAF4=]. Is he an irredeemable jackass or just a dumb kid who made a TragicMistake? The fact that he's [[spoiler: a son of William]] and the fact that That he's implied to be [[spoiler: Michael Afton A.K.A Mike Schmidt]] [[spoiler:Michael Afton, who is in turn implied to be all the Night Guards and the protagonist of ''FFPS'',]] only divides people further on whether [[spoiler: he [[spoiler:he redeemed himself or if its too little, too late.]]]]
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* TheReveal that [[spoiler:the game is a prequel to the original game]]. One side praised it as an amazing twist that [[TheEndingChangesEverything changed their view of the entire game]], while the other side criticized it for being a seemingly nonsensical twist that made little sense.

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* TheReveal that [[spoiler:the the game is a prequel to the original game]].game. One side praised it as an amazing twist that [[TheEndingChangesEverything changed their view of the entire game]], while the other side criticized it for being a seemingly nonsensical twist that made little sense.



* The game's big reveal fell into controversy [[spoiler:when a [[http://i3.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/newsfeed/000/996/089/343 certain scene]] hinted that the events of the game may have taken place four years prior to '87. Fans became split on whether this was a RedHerring or something else entirely]], to the point where the fights got ''very'' toxic on the official subreddit. Even Wiki/ThisVeryWiki's pages were split over which side was true. Suffice to say, there were a large amount of clues both supporting and refuting the date. Scott's confirmation that Nightmare BB was canon did nothing to ease the confusion. The debate was eventually settled when Scott praised Game Theory's "The Final Theory" video for getting the year correct, confirming that the game [[spoiler:does indeed take place in 1983 instead of 1987.]]

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* The game's big reveal fell into controversy [[spoiler:when a [[http://i3.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/newsfeed/000/996/089/343 certain scene]] hinted that the events of the game may have taken place four years prior to '87. Fans became split on whether this was a RedHerring or something else entirely]], to the point where the fights got ''very'' toxic on the official subreddit. Even Wiki/ThisVeryWiki's pages were split over which side was true. Suffice to say, there were a large amount of clues both supporting and refuting the date. Scott's confirmation that Nightmare BB was canon did nothing to ease the confusion. The debate was eventually settled when Scott praised Game Theory's "The Final Theory" video for getting the year correct, confirming that the game [[spoiler:does game's minigames [[spoiler:do indeed take place in 1983 1983, instead of 1987.]]



* There's some debate over whether the Nightmare version of the Puppet is Nightmarionne or Nightmarionnette.

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* There's some debate over whether Hell, '''WHEN DO THE NIGHTS TAKE PLACE, AND WHO HAS THEM?!''' There is evidence that backs up the Nightmare version of player being [[spoiler: Michael Afton somewhere between the Puppet is Nightmarionne first and sixth game]] or Nightmarionnette.[[spoiler: the Crying Child before or after The Bite.]]



* The Custom Night's revelation that [[spoiler:you play as the GreaterScopeVillain's son, [[RememberTheNewGuy who was implied to have been the Purple Guy seen in at least some of the minigames throughout the franchise]] (and [[AmbiguousSituation maybe even]] Springtrap), and ''not'' his father as initially assumed]]. Depending on who you asked, this was either a brilliant PlotTwist that made one eager for a sequel, or [[ShockingSwerve a needless, out of nowhere]] and complicated retcon to [[KudzuPlot an already bloated and complicated story]], which also served to [[spoiler:[[HappyEndingOverride cheapen]] ''Videogame/FiveNightsAtFreddys3'' and it's [[EarnYourHappyEnding ending]]]]. This eventually died down when ''VideoGame/FreddyFazbearsPizzeriaSimulator'' confirmed that [[spoiler:William Afton was Springtrap, not Mike.]]

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* The Custom Night's revelation that [[spoiler:you play as the GreaterScopeVillain's BigBad's son, [[RememberTheNewGuy who was implied to have been the Purple Guy seen in at least some of the minigames throughout the franchise]] (and [[AmbiguousSituation maybe even]] Springtrap), and ''not'' his father as initially assumed]]. Depending on who you asked, this was either a brilliant PlotTwist that made one eager for a sequel, or [[ShockingSwerve a needless, out of nowhere]] and complicated retcon to [[KudzuPlot an already bloated and complicated story]], which also served to [[spoiler:[[HappyEndingOverride cheapen]] ''Videogame/FiveNightsAtFreddys3'' and it's [[EarnYourHappyEnding ending]]]]. This eventually died down when ''VideoGame/FreddyFazbearsPizzeriaSimulator'' confirmed that [[spoiler:William Afton was Springtrap, not Mike.]]




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** Recently, more people seem to agree that the theory is false.



* The Murderer, better known as The Purple Guy and William Afton, was formerly universally loved for his role in the story, but became more divisive as future games expanded on his character and revealed more about him. Those who like him feel he is a genuinely terrifying and realistic depiction of a SerialKiller and love him for his role as the GreaterScopeVillain of the older games. Others dislike him for being a KarmaHoudini for the most part, the revealing of his character and motivations taking away from the original mystique behind the ambiguity of both, and his gradual characterization into more of a MadScientist figure than a realistic child murderer.

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* The Murderer, better known as The Purple Guy and William Afton, the Purple Guy, was formerly universally loved for his role in the story, but became more divisive as future games expanded on his character and revealed more about him. Those who like him feel he is a genuinely terrifying and realistic depiction of a SerialKiller and love him for his role as the GreaterScopeVillain of the older games. Others dislike him for being a KarmaHoudini for the most part, the revealing of his character and motivations taking away from the original mystique behind the ambiguity of both, and his gradual characterization into more of a MadScientist figure than a realistic child murderer.murderer.
** Another thing they hate is the fact that he can't stay dead. A part of the fandom wishes for William to die for good in the upcoming ''Security Breach'' so we can focus on a new villain, Vanny.



* The older brother in [=FNAF4=]. Is he an irredeemable jackass or just a dumb kid who made a TragicMistake? [[spoiler:That he is implied to be both the son of the Purple Guy and the Security Guard of the first 3 games only divides people further on whether he redeemed himself or if its too little, too late.]]

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* The older brother in [=FNAF4=]. Is he an irredeemable jackass or just a dumb kid who made a TragicMistake? [[spoiler:That he is The fact that he's [[spoiler: a son of William]] and the fact that he's implied to be both the son of the Purple Guy and the Security Guard of the first 3 games [[spoiler: Michael Afton A.K.A Mike Schmidt]] only divides people further on whether [[spoiler: he redeemed himself or if its too little, too late.]]

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* When should the series have ended, if at all? This has become a common debate since the 3rd game, with the most common answers being ''3'' and ''4'':
** Those in favor of ''3'' point out that it had the most conclusive ending by seemingly having the missing children move on and giving the murderer his comeuppance. Those against ''3'' state that while it was a happy ending, it still left enough unanswered questions and set up enough hooks to prevent it from being a true ending. Helping this viewpoint is future games overriding both the prior points, making the ending less happy in hindsight unless fans chose to [[FanonDiscontinuity ignore]] everything from ''4'' onward.
** Those in favor of ''4'' feel the story was best concluded there, ending the past era on a fittingly bleak note while answering a few burning questions fans had about the past. Those against it point out that the game's lore was at its most confusing in this game and that ending it here would've left many unanswered questions (that future games have since addressed) unless Scott himself decided to elaborate on them back then.
** A third group feels that the series shouldn't end at all, citing the fact that every game since ''2'' has left unanswered questions or set up hooks for future games, making it impossible for the series to end at any set point until Scott decides to fully conclude the story. Those against this mindset feel that with FNAF becoming a CashCowFranchise, ending the story seems less and less likely.



* The idea that this would've been the [[GrandFinale final game of the series]]. Some claimed that they didn't want another game, saying that the main story was over and should be left on a high note, while others wanted a deeper explanation of what went on in the backstory (like what happened at Fazbear's Diner), even pointing out the multiple {{sequel hook}}s that the game had laid out. All of this quickly escalated when various Let's Players who had been in contact with Scott began leaving random and cryptic hints about the series' future such as "it's coming" and after the hat on Scott's website was removed.


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* The idea that this would've been the [[GrandFinale final game of the series]]. Some claimed that they didn't want another game, saying that the main story was over and should be left on a high note, while others wanted a deeper explanation of what went on in the backstory (like what happened at Fazbear's Diner), even pointing out the multiple {{sequel hook}}s that the game had laid out. All of this quickly escalated when various Let's Players who had been in contact with Scott began leaving random and cryptic hints about the series' future such as "it's coming" and after the hat on Scott's website was removed.




* With just the very first teaser, the FNAF fandom was plunged into debates about whether or not the series needed a fourth game. Several fans (and non-fans) combined this notion with accusations of the series becoming a shameless CashCowFranchise -- in the bad kind of way. It got so bad that Scott himself had to address this issue himself.



* While many people were hyped for the game and thought it was needed for story purposes, as the lore was mostly unsolved, many others who were satisfied with either ''FNAF 3'' or ''4'' ending the series weren't very happy about its reveal, accusing Scott of milking the series.


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!! ''Literature/FiveNightsAtFreddysFazbearFrights''
* The fact that the book series introduces [[DenserAndWackier stranger and more explicitly fantastical]] elements than previous installments of the franchise- such as time travel, (seemingly) magical necklaces, and body-swapping robots, among other elements- has split the fandom right down the middle. Half of the fandom is just fine with it, arguing that the series (which has featured haunted robots pretty much from the beginning) has never exactly been a bastion of realism, and are excited by the wider story possibilities this opens up; the other half is frustrated with the departure from what they were expecting and firmly ignores any potential impact the books might have on the lore.

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* The Murderer, better known as The Purple Guy and William Afton, was formerly universally loved for his role in the story, but became more divisive as future games expanded on his character and revealed more about him. Those who like him feel he is a genuinely terrifying and realistic depiction of a SerialKiller and love him for his role as the GreaterScopeVillain of the older games. Others dislike him for being a KarmaHoudini for the most part, the revealing of his character and motivations taking away from the original mystique behind the ambiguity of both, and his gradual characterization into more of a MadScientist figure than a realistic child murderer.



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* The lore. Many people consider it to be the main draw of the series, and praise how intricate it is. More cynical observers say that a lot of the story's depth comes from people overthinking minor details, and the plot points that invite the most speculation are really people mistaking inconsistencies for complexity.

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* The lore. Many people consider it to be the main draw of the series, and praise how intricate it is. More cynical observers say that a lot of the story's depth comes from people overthinking minor details, and the plot points that invite the most speculation are really people mistaking inconsistencies for complexity.
complexity. One of the biggest factors in the split is how intricate and complex it became over time, with arguments over whether or not the lore is even solvable.



* Even before release, people were divided over certain elements of the game, two of the biggest being that there was only one animatronic, Springtrap, and the setting being a horror attraction instead of a pizzeria. The implication that there might be walking had also led people to fear that the game would lose the [[ControlledHelplessness reason it was so scary in the first place.]] Ultimately however, there was much more to the game than was implied. [[spoiler:The Purple Man returned, the Marionette was still around -- though it, itself, seems to be falling apart]] -- and ''every single one of the old animatronics'' sans Endoskeletons and Bonnie can show up and jump you at any given moment. [[MyFriendsAndZoidberg And BB and Mangle.]]

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* Even before release, people were divided over certain elements of Before the game, two of game was released, the biggest idea of Springtrap being the only animatronic. Some thought it would made for a more terrifying threat having only one after you. Others thought that the lack of threats made the game too easy. This was more or less settled when the Phantom animatronics were revealed as threats, but non-lethal ones, meaning there was only still technically one animatronic, Springtrap, and animatronic.
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the first trailer, the idea of having walking instead of being restricted to a stationary position. Those who were for it stated that it would add a whole new element to the series while those against it thought that the series would lose the ControlledHelplessness aspect that made the games scary.
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setting being a horror attraction instead of a pizzeria. The implication Those for it feel the change in venue was necessary to help spice things up a bit, while those against it felt that there might be walking had also led people to fear not having it at a pizzeria took away the SuckECheeses aspect that made the game would lose the [[ControlledHelplessness reason it was so scary in the first place.]] Ultimately however, there was much more to the game than was implied. [[spoiler:The Purple Man returned, the Marionette was still around -- though it, itself, seems to be falling apart]] -- and ''every single one of the old animatronics'' sans Endoskeletons and Bonnie can show up and jump you at any given moment. [[MyFriendsAndZoidberg And BB and Mangle.]]prior 2 games scary.

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* Scott's [[http://steamcommunity.com/games/388090/announcements/detail/125327007944045364 decision]] to [[spoiler:leave the box the way it is]] and have the fanbase put the pieces together tore the base in two. Some accepted his decision and respected it, while others wanted him to open [[spoiler:the box]] for them anyway.

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* Scott's [[http://steamcommunity.[[https://steamcommunity.com/games/388090/announcements/detail/125327007944045364 decision]] to [[spoiler:leave leave the box the way it is]] closed and have the fanbase put the pieces together tore the base in two. themselves. Some accepted his decision were okay with it, believing that they just needed to keep on trying to figure it out and respected it, while others wanted him that solving it was part of the fun. Others were disappointed that the biggest secret in the then-final game of the series would remain unanswered. The fact that Scott also said that ''nobody'' had managed to open [[spoiler:the box]] for them anyway.figure out the story of 4 despite having easily solved the other 3 games' stories factored into the disappointment and those who had been struggling to figure out the lore were turned off from the series with this revelation.


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[[redirect:BrokenBase]]->''"I'm so f**king confused normal mangle is a yes phantom mangle is supposedly a male people are speculating Funtime foxy is female nightmare mangle is still genderless my head hurts" [sic]''
-->--'''Golden mangled fox''', ''Five Night at Freddy's Wiki''

The ''VideoGame/FiveNightsAtFreddys'' fandom is infamous for many reasons. One of which being that [[BrokenBase nobody can agree on anything.]]
!! ''General''

* The hordes of roleplayers on Steam, Gamejolt and the comments section of every FNAF video. Are they some of the most annoying members of the fanbase, or are they being creative?
* There is also the announcement of a possible [[TheMovie movie]]. Some are extremely excited for it, some are [[VideoGameMoviesSuck convinced it will flop]], and some are simply indifferent.
* The lore. Many people consider it to be the main draw of the series, and praise how intricate it is. More cynical observers say that a lot of the story's depth comes from people overthinking minor details, and the plot points that invite the most speculation are really people mistaking inconsistencies for complexity.

!! ''VideoGame/FiveNightsAtFreddys''
* Bonnie's [[AmbiguousGender gender]] was unknown for quite some time. While the gender wars weren't quite as astronomical as Mangle's, it was pretty heavy until Scott [[WordOfGod confirmed he was male]] indirectly.

!! ''VideoGame/FiveNightsAtFreddys2''
* TheReveal that [[spoiler:the game is a prequel to the original game]]. One side praised it as an amazing twist that [[TheEndingChangesEverything changed their view of the entire game]], while the other side criticized it for being a seemingly nonsensical twist that made little sense.

!! ''VideoGame/FiveNightsAtFreddys3''
* Even before release, people were divided over certain elements of the game, two of the biggest being that there was only one animatronic, Springtrap, and the setting being a horror attraction instead of a pizzeria. The implication that there might be walking had also led people to fear that the game would lose the [[ControlledHelplessness reason it was so scary in the first place.]] Ultimately however, there was much more to the game than was implied. [[spoiler:The Purple Man returned, the Marionette was still around -- though it, itself, seems to be falling apart]] -- and ''every single one of the old animatronics'' sans Endoskeletons and Bonnie can show up and jump you at any given moment. [[MyFriendsAndZoidberg And BB and Mangle.]]
* The idea that this would've been the [[GrandFinale final game of the series]]. Some claimed that they didn't want another game, saying that the main story was over and should be left on a high note, while others wanted a deeper explanation of what went on in the backstory (like what happened at Fazbear's Diner), even pointing out the multiple {{sequel hook}}s that the game had laid out. All of this quickly escalated when various Let's Players who had been in contact with Scott began leaving random and cryptic hints about the series' future such as "it's coming" and after the hat on Scott's website was removed.


!! ''VideoGame/FiveNightsAtFreddys4''
* With just the very first teaser, the FNAF fandom was plunged into debates about whether or not the series needed a fourth game. Several fans (and non-fans) combined this notion with accusations of the series becoming a shameless CashCowFranchise -- in the bad kind of way. It got so bad that Scott himself had to address this issue himself.
* Fans were split on whether the Nightmare Animatronics were either the most terrifying renditions of the main animatronics to date, or too over the top in their scary elements to the point of {{Narm}}.
* The fact that the game takes place in a house instead of some variation of Freddy's Pizzeria caused a split. One contingent of fans considered it scarier that the threats were in your house instead of a job that you could simply leave, while others thought the change of location felt out of place for the series and that it should stick to an actual Fazbear Entertainment building.
* The game's big reveal fell into controversy [[spoiler:when a [[http://i3.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/newsfeed/000/996/089/343 certain scene]] hinted that the events of the game may have taken place four years prior to '87. Fans became split on whether this was a RedHerring or something else entirely]], to the point where the fights got ''very'' toxic on the official subreddit. Even Wiki/ThisVeryWiki's pages were split over which side was true. Suffice to say, there were a large amount of clues both supporting and refuting the date. Scott's confirmation that Nightmare BB was canon did nothing to ease the confusion. The debate was eventually settled when Scott praised Game Theory's "The Final Theory" video for getting the year correct, confirming that the game [[spoiler:does indeed take place in 1983 instead of 1987.]]
* Scott's [[http://steamcommunity.com/games/388090/announcements/detail/125327007944045364 decision]] to [[spoiler:leave the box the way it is]] and have the fanbase put the pieces together tore the base in two. Some accepted his decision and respected it, while others wanted him to open [[spoiler:the box]] for them anyway.
* [[spoiler:Do the Five Nights take place before or after the bite?]] There is evidence to back both assumptions up.
* There's some debate over whether the Nightmare version of the Puppet is Nightmarionne or Nightmarionnette.
* A couple of users were [[https://np.reddit.com/r/fivenightsatfreddys/comments/4vf079/rantramble_i_dislike_how_nightmare_bb_has_been/ disappointed]] and/or angry with Nightmare BB's presentation, some of them ''insulting Scott'' via email or Reddit, while others were fine with the result.

!! ''VideoGame/FiveNightsAtFreddysSisterLocation''
* While many people were hyped for the game and thought it was needed for story purposes, as the lore was mostly unsolved, many others who were satisfied with either ''FNAF 3'' or ''4'' ending the series weren't very happy about its reveal, accusing Scott of milking the series.
* Prior to the game's debut trailer, one of the most common theories was that the "lines" teaser was hinting at a ''[[VideoGame/ChipperAndSonsLumberCo Chipper & Sons]]'' horror game. This caused a split between those who were interested in the idea (since ''Chipper & Sons'' already has its share of creepy moments) and those who weren't comfortable with the thought of it.
* The [[AmbiguousGender gender]] debate for Funtime Foxy/Mangle sparked yet again. Some aspects of the game implied that it was male, such as the absence of [[TertiarySexualCharacteristics long eyelashes]] and a more masculine torso compared to its depiction in ''FNAF World''. Points in favor of it being female were long fingernails, a trait that is almost ''always'' applied to women, and lipstick (although those could be explained as claws and clown makeup respectively). To make matters worse, Funtime Foxy is referred to with no pronouns on the first night, "he" on the second night, then "she" on the third, and is the only animatronic to [[TheSpeechless remain silent for the whole game]]. This was likely intentional on [[TrollingCreator Scott's]] part.
** The Custom Night description calls Funtime Foxy male, but it also appears in a challenge called "Girls' Night," not unlike Mangle in ''2''. This lead to two assumptions: Scott made a mistake and left a typo or [[TrollingCreator he was doing it on purpose.]]
* The Custom Night's revelation that [[spoiler:you play as the GreaterScopeVillain's son, [[RememberTheNewGuy who was implied to have been the Purple Guy seen in at least some of the minigames throughout the franchise]] (and [[AmbiguousSituation maybe even]] Springtrap), and ''not'' his father as initially assumed]]. Depending on who you asked, this was either a brilliant PlotTwist that made one eager for a sequel, or [[ShockingSwerve a needless, out of nowhere]] and complicated retcon to [[KudzuPlot an already bloated and complicated story]], which also served to [[spoiler:[[HappyEndingOverride cheapen]] ''Videogame/FiveNightsAtFreddys3'' and it's [[EarnYourHappyEnding ending]]]]. This eventually died down when ''VideoGame/FreddyFazbearsPizzeriaSimulator'' confirmed that [[spoiler:William Afton was Springtrap, not Mike.]]
* [[EpilepticTrees The "Experiment Theory"]], which posits that the events of ''4'' were engineered and monitored by the Purple Guy/William Afton from [[spoiler:the Private Room]] as some sort of experiment. Some like this idea for reasons similar to the above-mentioned Custom Night twist, while others see it as far-fetched and breaking their WillingSuspensionOfDisbelief, since what was once a fairly realistic child murderer was slowly becoming a cartoonish MadScientist. A related theory posits ''the entire series'' was done by Afton as some sort of experiment with creating life, which naturally results in both sides being more heated on the issue. ''The Silver Eyes'' universe going along with this interpretation doesn't help.

!! ''VideoGame/FiveNightsAtFreddysWorld''
* As one might have expected, the fandom was divided between those who thought the new direction was the wrong way to go and went against everything the original series was about and those who were simply excited to have a new game or were actually looking forward to the UnexpectedGameplayChange.
* The [[http://i.imgur.com/cw14g7W.jpg teaser]] showcasing the animatronic's appearances for the game also showed what Mangle looked like before being mangled, re-igniting the gender wars and tearing the fanbase asunder.
** Shortly after this new spark, [[http://41.media.tumblr.com/eb44f38adb0114df08b636be893fbbb4/tumblr_nuuivyyZEN1u2kzbyo2_r1_1280.jpg Scott answered]] "Is Mangle a boy or a girl" with [[MathematiciansAnswer "Yes"]]. Fans were divided between interpreting this as Scott either [[TrollingCreator trolling the fanbase]], informing us that Mangle does have a gender but wouldn't reveal it to keep both parties happy, or that [[ExactlyWhatItSaysOnTheTin Mangle's gender ''is'' "yes".]]
* Likewise, the reveal of pristine Spring Bonnie showing the animatronic with 'feminine' eyelashes caused quite a few fans to speak out against it, with some of them even going so far as to consider it an UnsettlingGenderReveal (never mind the fact that Toy Bonnie, who also has eyelashes, was confirmed to be male).
* After the game came out, users were divided on whether they enjoyed it or not. The lack of an actual storyline, or giving you hints on what to do next turned some people off, leading them to refund the game on Steam. Others didn't care about the game's flaws, liking it for what it was.
* The visual style. While some liked the colorful and flashy style, others described it as "an assault on the eyes", in the literal sense of it hurting their eyes to play the game for extended periods due to all the flashy colors and the sheer amount of stuff going on at once.

!! {{Base Breaking Character}}s
* Foxy. Either you like him as a character or hate him for overshadowing the other animatronics.
* The Toy animatronics in the second game are designed to be more colorful, childish, and feminine than their older counterparts, as shown by Toy Bonnie and Mangle, while the classic animatronics (except for Foxy) appear to have been pushed to the side and left in states of disrepair. Fans were divided on whether the Toy animatronics are as good as the classic ones and whether or not they are scary. The biggest Base Breakers of the group are Toy Chica and Mangle.
** Toy Chica. She has a more humanoid body and shorts that look like ''panties'' at first glance. Fans found her "sexualized" look either funny, disgusting, or disturbing and unnerving. (As for the third group, considering this is a horror game, they mean it in a good way.) Similarly, the fact that she takes off her beak and eyes is either horrifying to look at or, as Wiki/ThisVeryWiki points out, makes her look like either Pikachu or a yellow M&M.
** Mangle. Mangle itself isn't really the polarizing kind of base breaker. Moreso, its gender is one. Some believe it is female as it has feminine traits (Pink and white coloring, eyelashes) and appears on the Ladies' Night preset. The ones who believe it is male say that it might've been added just to make Ladies' Night harder, and that it's based off of the male Foxy. Others TakeAThirdOption and say its gender ''is'' "yes", thanks to a MathematiciansAnswer given by Scott.
* Balloon Boy. Some think he is annoying, while others think he's the best character.
* The older brother in [=FNAF4=]. Is he an irredeemable jackass or just a dumb kid who made a TragicMistake?

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->''"I'm so f**king confused normal mangle is a yes phantom mangle is supposedly a male people are speculating Funtime foxy is female nightmare mangle is still genderless my head hurts" [sic]''
-->--'''Golden mangled fox''', ''Five Night at Freddy's Wiki''

The ''VideoGame/FiveNightsAtFreddys'' fandom is infamous for many reasons. One of which being that [[BrokenBase nobody can agree on anything.]]
!! ''General''

* The hordes of roleplayers on Steam, Gamejolt and the comments section of every FNAF video. Are they some of the most annoying members of the fanbase, or are they being creative?
* There is also the announcement of a possible [[TheMovie movie]]. Some are extremely excited for it, some are [[VideoGameMoviesSuck convinced it will flop]], and some are simply indifferent.
* Even the series' lore gets this. Many people consider the lore to be the main draw of the series, and praise how intricate it is. More cynical observers sometimes say that a lot of the story's depth is people overthinking minor details, and the plot points that invite the most speculation is really people mistaking inconsistencies for complexity.

!! ''VideoGame/FiveNightsAtFreddys''
* Bonnie's [[AmbiguousGender gender]] was unknown for quite some time. While the gender wars weren't quite as astronomical as Mangle's, it was pretty heavy until Scott [[WordOfGod confirmed he was male]] indirectly.

!! ''VideoGame/FiveNightsAtFreddys2''
* TheReveal that [[spoiler:the game was a prequel]] literally set off fifteen flamewars in five minutes. [[FanonDiscontinuity Some people refused to believe it]], and others refuse to ''not'' believe it.

!! ''VideoGame/FiveNightsAtFreddys3''
* Even before release there were some divisions over elements of the game, the biggest of which is probably that there was only one animatronic, Springtrap, and the place being a horror attraction instead of a pizzeria. The implication that there might be walking had also led people to fear that the game will lose the [[ControlledHelplessness reason it was so scary in the first place.]] Ultimately however, there was much more to the game than was implied. [[spoiler:The Purple Man returned, the Marionette was still around -- though it, itself, seems to be falling apart]] -- and ''every single one of the old animatronics'' sans Endoskeletons and Bonnie can show up and jump you at any given moment. [[MyFriendsAndZoidberg And BB and Mangle.]]
* The idea that this would have been the [[GrandFinale final game of the series]] had the fanbase riled up; some people claimed that they didn't want another game, saying that the main story is over and to leave it on a high note, while others wanted a deeper explanation of what went on in the backstory (like what happened at Fazbear's Diner), even pointing out the multiple {{sequel hook}}s that the third game laid out. All of this quickly escalated when various Let's Players who had been in contact with Scott began leaving random and cryptic hints about the series' future such as "it's coming" and after the hat on Scott's website was removed.


!! ''VideoGame/FiveNightsAtFreddys4''
''4'' seems to break the base more than the other three.
* On the day Scott first teased the game, the FNAF fandom plunged itself into debates about whether or not the series needed a fourth game. Several fans (and non-fans) combined this notion with accusations of the series becoming a shameless CashCowFranchise -- in the bad kind of way. It got so bad that Scott himself had to address this issue himself.
* Fans split on whether the teaser images looked scary or stupid.
* The fact that the game takes place in a house instead of some variation of Freddy's Pizzeria caused a split. One contingent of fans considered it scarier that the threats are in your house instead of a job that you can simply leave, while others thought the change of location felt out of place for the series and that it should stick to an actual Fazbear Entertainment building.
** The reveal has caused further controversy [[spoiler:when a [[http://i3.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/newsfeed/000/996/089/343 certain scene]] hints that the whole incident may be four years prior to '87. Fans now are split whether this is a RedHerring or something else entirely]], to the point where the fights actually got ''very'' toxic on the official subreddit. Even ThisVeryWiki's pages are split over which side is true. Suffice it to say that there's a large amount of clues both supporting and refuting the date. [[RuleOfCautiousEditingJudgement Let's just leave it at that.]]
** [[https://www.reddit.com/r/fivenightsatfreddys/comments/3qwx9o/so_is_87_confirmed_now/ This post]] seems to settle the flames a bit, however.
*** Scott has confirmed that Nightmare BB is, in fact, canon. Check the Character page for FNAF 4 for the link.
* Scott's [[http://steamcommunity.com/games/388090/announcements/detail/125327007944045364 decision]] to [[spoiler:leave the box the way it is]] and have the fanbase put the pieces together tore the base in two. Some accept his decision and respect it, while others ask him to open [[spoiler:the box]] for them anyway. We got a [[spoiler:Nightmarionne]] nonetheless.
* [[spoiler:Do the Five Nights take place before or after the bite?]] There is evidence to back both assumptions up.
* There's some debate over whether the Nightmare version of the Puppet is Nightmarionne or Nightmarionnette.
* A couple of users were [[https://np.reddit.com/r/fivenightsatfreddys/comments/4vf079/rantramble_i_dislike_how_nightmare_bb_has_been/ disappointed]] and/or angry with Nightmare BB's presentation, some of them ''insulting Scott'' via email or Reddit, while others were fine with the result.
** Despite being almost a year after his addition, the user who requested for Nightmare Balloon Boy is ''still'' attempting to have him changed.

!! ''VideoGame/FiveNightsAtFreddysSisterLocation''
* While many people were hyped for the game and thought it was needed for story purposes, as the lore was mostly unsolved, many other people who were satisfied with either ''FNAF 3'' or ''4'' ending the series weren't very happy about its reveal, accusing Scott of milking the series.
* Prior to the game's debut trailer, one of the most common theories was that the "lines" teaser was hinting at a ''[[VideoGame/ChipperAndSonsLumberCo Chipper & Sons]]'' horror game. This caused a split between those who were interested in the idea (since ''Chipper & Sons'' already has its share of creepy moments) and those who weren't comfortable with the thought of it.
* The [[AmbiguousGender gender]] debate for Funtime Foxy/Mangle has sparked yet again. Some aspects of the game imply that it's male, such as the absence of [[TertiarySexualCharacteristics long eyelashes]] and a more masculine face compared to its depiction in ''FNAF World''. Points in favor of it being female are long fingernails, a trait that is almost ''always'' applied to women, and lipstick (although those could be explained as claws and clown makeup respectively). To make matters worse Funtime Foxy is referred to with no pronouns on the first night, "he" on the second night, then "she" on the third, and it's the only animatronic to [[TheSpeechless remain silent for the whole game]]. This is likely intentional on [[TrollingCreator Scott's]] part.
** The Custom Night description calls Funtime Foxy male, but it also appears in a challenge called "Girls' Night," not unlike Mangle in ''2''. This can lead to two assumptions: Scott made a mistake and left a typo or [[TrollingCreator he's doing it on purpose.]]
* Fans weren't exactly thrilled to discover Baby stands at 7 foot tall, whereas Funtime Foxy is the shortest of the animatronics in the game.
* Then there's the Custom Night's revelation that [[spoiler:you play as the GreaterScopeVillain's son, [[RememberTheNewGuy who is implied to have been the Purple Man seen in at least some of the minigames throughout the franchise]] (and [[AmbiguousSituation maybe even]] Springtrap), and ''not'' his father as initially assumed]]. Depending on who you ask, this is either a brilliant PlotTwist that makes one eager for a sequel, or [[ShockingSwerve a needless, out of nowhere]] and complicated retcon to [[KudzuPlot an already bloated and complicated story]], which also serves to [[spoiler:[[HappyEndingOverride cheapen]] ''Videogame/FiveNightsAtFreddys3'' and how that game [[EarnYourHappyEnding ended things nicely]]]].
* [[EpilepticTrees The "Experiment Theory"]], which posits that the events of ''4'' were engineered and monitored by the Purple Guy/William Afton from [[spoiler:the Private Room]] as some sort of experiment. Some like this idea for reasons similar to the above-mentioned Custom Night twist, while others see it as far-fetched and breaking their WillingSuspensionOfDisbelief, since what was once a fairly realistic child murderer is now slowly becoming a cartoonish MadScientist.[[labelnote:*]]A related theory posits ''the entire series'' was done by Afton as some sort of experiment with creating life, which naturally results in both sides being more heated on the issue (''The Silver Eyes'' universe going along with this interpretation doesn't help).[[/labelnote]]

!! ''VideoGame/FiveNightsAtFreddysWorld''
* As one might have expected, the fandom is divided between those who think the new direction is the wrong way to go and against everything the original series was about and those who are simply excited to have a new game or are actually looking forward to the UnexpectedGameplayChange.
* The [[http://i.imgur.com/cw14g7W.jpg teaser]] showcasing the animatronic's appearances for the game also shows what Mangle looks like before being mangled, re-igniting the gender wars and tearing the fanbase asunder.
** Shortly after this new spark, [[http://41.media.tumblr.com/eb44f38adb0114df08b636be893fbbb4/tumblr_nuuivyyZEN1u2kzbyo2_r1_1280.jpg Scott answered]] "Is Mangle a boy or a girl" with [[MathematiciansAnswer "Yes"]]. Fans are divided between interpreting this as Scott either [[TrollingCreator trolling the fanbase]], informing us that Mangle does have a gender but not reveal it to keep both parties happy, or that [[ExactlyWhatItSaysOnTheTin Mangle's gender ''is'' "yes".]]
* Likewise, the reveal of pristine Spring Bonnie showing the animatronic with 'feminine' eyelashes has caused quite a few fans to speak out against it, with some of them even going so far as to consider it an UnsettlingGenderReveal (never mind the fact that Toy Bonnie, who also has eyelashes, is confirmed to be male).
* Some users don't enjoy the game now that it's officially out, and some do. The lack of an actual storyline, or giving you hints on what to do next also turned some people off and they were going to get refunds on Steam. There is also the crowd who does not care, and likes it for what it is.
* The visual style. While some like the colorful and flashy style, others have described it as "an assault on the eyes", in the literal sense of it hurting their eyes to play the game for extended periods due to all the flashy colors and the sheer amount of stuff going on at once.

!! {{Base Breaking Character}}s
* Foxy. Either you like him as a character or hate him for overshadowing the other animatronics.
* The Toy animatronics in the second game are designed to be more colourful, childish, and feminine than their older counterparts, as shown by Toy Bonnie and Mangle, while the classic animatronics (except for Foxy) appear to have been pushed to the side and left in states of disrepair. Fans are divided on whether the new animatronics are as good as the classic ones or not and whether or not they are scary. Probably the biggest Base Breakers of the group are Toy Chica and Mangle.
** First, Toy Chica. She has a more humanoid body and shorts that look like ''panties'' at first glance. Fans find her new "sexualized" look either funny, disgusting, or disturbing and unnerving. (As for the third group, considering this is a horror game, they mean it in a good way.) Similarly, the fact that she takes off her beak and eyes is either horrifying to look at or, as ThisVeryWiki points out, makes her look like either Pikachu or a yellow M&M.
** And then there's Mangle. Mangle itself isn't really the polarizing kind of base breaker. Moreso, its gender is one. Some believe it is female as it has feminine traits (Pink and white coloring, eyelashes) and appears on the Ladies' Night preset. The ones who believe it is male say that it might've been added just to make Ladies' Night harder, and that it's based off of the male Foxy. Others TakeAThirdOption and say its gender ''is'' "yes", thanks to a MathematiciansAnswer given by Scott.
*** The Mangle base was probably broken even further with the release of ''FNAF World''. On the day the game came out, the loading screens exclusively referred to Mangle as male. However, the ''very'' next day, when Scott updated the game to include some missing features, he also made it so that the screen alternates between calling Mangle "he" and "she". While this was most likely Scott being himself and wanting to keep the gender unknown, it only caused more problems. The male side of the debate '''''[[InternetBackdraft exploded]]''''' into a rage of fits and outbursts, bombarding the female side with insults and proclaiming that their initially negative reaction is what caused it. In other words, they think Mangle ''was'' confirmed male, and that the "she" screen was only added so the female side wouldn't "harass" Scott. Some even claim this as fact, despite it not being confirmed. Either way, the base remains more broken than ever. At this point, it's unlikely the gender will ever be confirmed officially.
** The base isn't as broken on Tumblr for the new animatronics typically receive as much praise/attention/fanart as the old ones...except BB, obviously. But even he's treated more like a ChewToy than a genuine {{Scrappy}}.
*** Then again, Balloon Boy is this to some parts of the fandom. Some think he is annoying, others even think he's the best character.
* The older brother on whether he is a irredeemable jackass or just a dumb kid who made a TragicMistake, so much so there was a brief [[Administrivia/EditWar editing war]] on 4's YMMV page.

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->''"I'm so f**king confused normal mangle is a yes phantom mangle is supposedly a male people are speculating Funtime foxy is female nightmare mangle is still genderless my head hurts" [sic]''
-->--'''Golden mangled fox''', ''Five Night at Freddy's Wiki''

The ''VideoGame/FiveNightsAtFreddys'' fandom is infamous for many reasons. One of which being that [[BrokenBase nobody can agree on anything.]]
!! ''General''

* The hordes of roleplayers on Steam, Gamejolt and the comments section of every FNAF video. Are they some of the most annoying members of the fanbase, or are they being creative?
* There is also the announcement of a possible [[TheMovie movie]]. Some are extremely excited for it, some are [[VideoGameMoviesSuck convinced it will flop]], and some are simply indifferent.
* Even the series' lore gets this. Many people consider the lore to be the main draw of the series, and praise how intricate it is. More cynical observers sometimes say that a lot of the story's depth is people overthinking minor details, and the plot points that invite the most speculation is really people mistaking inconsistencies for complexity.

!! ''VideoGame/FiveNightsAtFreddys''
* Bonnie's [[AmbiguousGender gender]] was unknown for quite some time. While the gender wars weren't quite as astronomical as Mangle's, it was pretty heavy until Scott [[WordOfGod confirmed he was male]] indirectly.

!! ''VideoGame/FiveNightsAtFreddys2''
* TheReveal that [[spoiler:the game was a prequel]] literally set off fifteen flamewars in five minutes. [[FanonDiscontinuity Some people refused to believe it]], and others refuse to ''not'' believe it.

!! ''VideoGame/FiveNightsAtFreddys3''
* Even before release there were some divisions over elements of the game, the biggest of which is probably that there was only one animatronic, Springtrap, and the place being a horror attraction instead of a pizzeria. The implication that there might be walking had also led people to fear that the game will lose the [[ControlledHelplessness reason it was so scary in the first place.]] Ultimately however, there was much more to the game than was implied. [[spoiler:The Purple Man returned, the Marionette was still around -- though it, itself, seems to be falling apart]] -- and ''every single one of the old animatronics'' sans Endoskeletons and Bonnie can show up and jump you at any given moment. [[MyFriendsAndZoidberg And BB and Mangle.]]
* The idea that this would have been the [[GrandFinale final game of the series]] had the fanbase riled up; some people claimed that they didn't want another game, saying that the main story is over and to leave it on a high note, while others wanted a deeper explanation of what went on in the backstory (like what happened at Fazbear's Diner), even pointing out the multiple {{sequel hook}}s that the third game laid out. All of this quickly escalated when various Let's Players who had been in contact with Scott began leaving random and cryptic hints about the series' future such as "it's coming" and after the hat on Scott's website was removed.


!! ''VideoGame/FiveNightsAtFreddys4''
''4'' seems to break the base more than the other three.
* On the day Scott first teased the game, the FNAF fandom plunged itself into debates about whether or not the series needed a fourth game. Several fans (and non-fans) combined this notion with accusations of the series becoming a shameless CashCowFranchise -- in the bad kind of way. It got so bad that Scott himself had to address this issue himself.
* Fans split on whether the teaser images looked scary or stupid.
* The fact that the game takes place in a house instead of some variation of Freddy's Pizzeria caused a split. One contingent of fans considered it scarier that the threats are in your house instead of a job that you can simply leave, while others thought the change of location felt out of place for the series and that it should stick to an actual Fazbear Entertainment building.
** The reveal has caused further controversy [[spoiler:when a [[http://i3.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/newsfeed/000/996/089/343 certain scene]] hints that the whole incident may be four years prior to '87. Fans now are split whether this is a RedHerring or something else entirely]], to the point where the fights actually got ''very'' toxic on the official subreddit. Even ThisVeryWiki's pages are split over which side is true. Suffice it to say that there's a large amount of clues both supporting and refuting the date. [[RuleOfCautiousEditingJudgement Let's just leave it at that.]]
** [[https://www.reddit.com/r/fivenightsatfreddys/comments/3qwx9o/so_is_87_confirmed_now/ This post]] seems to settle the flames a bit, however.
*** Scott has confirmed that Nightmare BB is, in fact, canon. Check the Character page for FNAF 4 for the link.
* Scott's [[http://steamcommunity.com/games/388090/announcements/detail/125327007944045364 decision]] to [[spoiler:leave the box the way it is]] and have the fanbase put the pieces together tore the base in two. Some accept his decision and respect it, while others ask him to open [[spoiler:the box]] for them anyway. We got a [[spoiler:Nightmarionne]] nonetheless.
* [[spoiler:Do the Five Nights take place before or after the bite?]] There is evidence to back both assumptions up.
* There's some debate over whether the Nightmare version of the Puppet is Nightmarionne or Nightmarionnette.
* A couple of users were [[https://np.reddit.com/r/fivenightsatfreddys/comments/4vf079/rantramble_i_dislike_how_nightmare_bb_has_been/ disappointed]] and/or angry with Nightmare BB's presentation, some of them ''insulting Scott'' via email or Reddit, while others were fine with the result.
** Despite being almost a year after his addition, the user who requested for Nightmare Balloon Boy is ''still'' attempting to have him changed.

!! ''VideoGame/FiveNightsAtFreddysSisterLocation''
* While many people were hyped for the game and thought it was needed for story purposes, as the lore was mostly unsolved, many other people who were satisfied with either ''FNAF 3'' or ''4'' ending the series weren't very happy about its reveal, accusing Scott of milking the series.
* Prior to the game's debut trailer, one of the most common theories was that the "lines" teaser was hinting at a ''[[VideoGame/ChipperAndSonsLumberCo Chipper & Sons]]'' horror game. This caused a split between those who were interested in the idea (since ''Chipper & Sons'' already has its share of creepy moments) and those who weren't comfortable with the thought of it.
* The [[AmbiguousGender gender]] debate for Funtime Foxy/Mangle has sparked yet again. Some aspects of the game imply that it's male, such as the absence of [[TertiarySexualCharacteristics long eyelashes]] and a more masculine face compared to its depiction in ''FNAF World''. Points in favor of it being female are long fingernails, a trait that is almost ''always'' applied to women, and lipstick (although those could be explained as claws and clown makeup respectively). To make matters worse Funtime Foxy is referred to with no pronouns on the first night, "he" on the second night, then "she" on the third, and it's the only animatronic to [[TheSpeechless remain silent for the whole game]]. This is likely intentional on [[TrollingCreator Scott's]] part.
** The Custom Night description calls Funtime Foxy male, but it also appears in a challenge called "Girls' Night," not unlike Mangle in ''2''. This can lead to two assumptions: Scott made a mistake and left a typo or [[TrollingCreator he's doing it on purpose.]]
* Fans weren't exactly thrilled to discover Baby stands at 7 foot tall, whereas Funtime Foxy is the shortest of the animatronics in the game.
* Then there's the Custom Night's revelation that [[spoiler:you play as the GreaterScopeVillain's son, [[RememberTheNewGuy who is implied to have been the Purple Man seen in at least some of the minigames throughout the franchise]] (and [[AmbiguousSituation maybe even]] Springtrap), and ''not'' his father as initially assumed]]. Depending on who you ask, this is either a brilliant PlotTwist that makes one eager for a sequel, or [[ShockingSwerve a needless, out of nowhere]] and complicated retcon to [[KudzuPlot an already bloated and complicated story]], which also serves to [[spoiler:[[HappyEndingOverride cheapen]] ''Videogame/FiveNightsAtFreddys3'' and how that game [[EarnYourHappyEnding ended things nicely]]]].
* [[EpilepticTrees The "Experiment Theory"]], which posits that the events of ''4'' were engineered and monitored by the Purple Guy/William Afton from [[spoiler:the Private Room]] as some sort of experiment. Some like this idea for reasons similar to the above-mentioned Custom Night twist, while others see it as far-fetched and breaking their WillingSuspensionOfDisbelief, since what was once a fairly realistic child murderer is now slowly becoming a cartoonish MadScientist.[[labelnote:*]]A related theory posits ''the entire series'' was done by Afton as some sort of experiment with creating life, which naturally results in both sides being more heated on the issue (''The Silver Eyes'' universe going along with this interpretation doesn't help).[[/labelnote]]

!! ''VideoGame/FiveNightsAtFreddysWorld''
* As one might have expected, the fandom is divided between those who think the new direction is the wrong way to go and against everything the original series was about and those who are simply excited to have a new game or are actually looking forward to the UnexpectedGameplayChange.
* The [[http://i.imgur.com/cw14g7W.jpg teaser]] showcasing the animatronic's appearances for the game also shows what Mangle looks like before being mangled, re-igniting the gender wars and tearing the fanbase asunder.
** Shortly after this new spark, [[http://41.media.tumblr.com/eb44f38adb0114df08b636be893fbbb4/tumblr_nuuivyyZEN1u2kzbyo2_r1_1280.jpg Scott answered]] "Is Mangle a boy or a girl" with [[MathematiciansAnswer "Yes"]]. Fans are divided between interpreting this as Scott either [[TrollingCreator trolling the fanbase]], informing us that Mangle does have a gender but not reveal it to keep both parties happy, or that [[ExactlyWhatItSaysOnTheTin Mangle's gender ''is'' "yes".]]
* Likewise, the reveal of pristine Spring Bonnie showing the animatronic with 'feminine' eyelashes has caused quite a few fans to speak out against it, with some of them even going so far as to consider it an UnsettlingGenderReveal (never mind the fact that Toy Bonnie, who also has eyelashes, is confirmed to be male).
* Some users don't enjoy the game now that it's officially out, and some do. The lack of an actual storyline, or giving you hints on what to do next also turned some people off and they were going to get refunds on Steam. There is also the crowd who does not care, and likes it for what it is.
* The visual style. While some like the colorful and flashy style, others have described it as "an assault on the eyes", in the literal sense of it hurting their eyes to play the game for extended periods due to all the flashy colors and the sheer amount of stuff going on at once.

!! {{Base Breaking Character}}s
* Foxy. Either you like him as a character or hate him for overshadowing the other animatronics.
* The Toy animatronics in the second game are designed to be more colourful, childish, and feminine than their older counterparts, as shown by Toy Bonnie and Mangle, while the classic animatronics (except for Foxy) appear to have been pushed to the side and left in states of disrepair. Fans are divided on whether the new animatronics are as good as the classic ones or not and whether or not they are scary. Probably the biggest Base Breakers of the group are Toy Chica and Mangle.
** First, Toy Chica. She has a more humanoid body and shorts that look like ''panties'' at first glance. Fans find her new "sexualized" look either funny, disgusting, or disturbing and unnerving. (As for the third group, considering this is a horror game, they mean it in a good way.) Similarly, the fact that she takes off her beak and eyes is either horrifying to look at or, as ThisVeryWiki points out, makes her look like either Pikachu or a yellow M&M.
** And then there's Mangle. Mangle itself isn't really the polarizing kind of base breaker. Moreso, its gender is one. Some believe it is female as it has feminine traits (Pink and white coloring, eyelashes) and appears on the Ladies' Night preset. The ones who believe it is male say that it might've been added just to make Ladies' Night harder, and that it's based off of the male Foxy. Others TakeAThirdOption and say its gender ''is'' "yes", thanks to a MathematiciansAnswer given by Scott.
*** The Mangle base was probably broken even further with the release of ''FNAF World''. On the day the game came out, the loading screens exclusively referred to Mangle as male. However, the ''very'' next day, when Scott updated the game to include some missing features, he also made it so that the screen alternates between calling Mangle "he" and "she". While this was most likely Scott being himself and wanting to keep the gender unknown, it only caused more problems. The male side of the debate '''''[[InternetBackdraft exploded]]''''' into a rage of fits and outbursts, bombarding the female side with insults and proclaiming that their initially negative reaction is what caused it. In other words, they think Mangle ''was'' confirmed male, and that the "she" screen was only added so the female side wouldn't "harass" Scott. Some even claim this as fact, despite it not being confirmed. Either way, the base remains more broken than ever. At this point, it's unlikely the gender will ever be confirmed officially.
** The base isn't as broken on Tumblr for the new animatronics typically receive as much praise/attention/fanart as the old ones...except BB, obviously. But even he's treated more like a ChewToy than a genuine {{Scrappy}}.
*** Then again, Balloon Boy is this to some parts of the fandom. Some think he is annoying, others even think he's the best character.
* The older brother on whether he is a irredeemable jackass or just a dumb kid who made a TragicMistake, so much so there was a brief [[Administrivia/EditWar editing war]] on 4's YMMV page.
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** And then there's Mangle. Mangle itself isn't really the LoveItOrHateIt kind of base breaker. Moreso, its gender is one. Some believe it is female as it has feminine traits (Pink and white coloring, eyelashes) and appears on the Ladies' Night preset. The ones who believe it is male say that it might've been added just to make Ladies' Night harder, and that it's based off of the male Foxy. Others TakeAThirdOption and say its gender ''is'' "yes", thanks to a MathematiciansAnswer given by Scott.

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** And then there's Mangle. Mangle itself isn't really the LoveItOrHateIt polarizing kind of base breaker. Moreso, its gender is one. Some believe it is female as it has feminine traits (Pink and white coloring, eyelashes) and appears on the Ladies' Night preset. The ones who believe it is male say that it might've been added just to make Ladies' Night harder, and that it's based off of the male Foxy. Others TakeAThirdOption and say its gender ''is'' "yes", thanks to a MathematiciansAnswer given by Scott.

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* The truckloads of [[RuleThirtyFour porn?]] Whether the {{plothole}}s or [[WhatAnIdiot the guard keeps returning]] are valid criticisms or not? Whether the animatronics are [[MaybeMagicMaybeMundane malfunctioning or actually haunted?]] Whether the game is actually scary or not? Pretty much anything can set one person off or another in the right places.
* The hordes of roleplayers on Steam, Gamejolt and the comments section of every FNAF video. Are they some of the most annoying members of the fanbase, or being creative?[[note]]Though a ''large'' amount of said roleplayers are... less then quality, often resulting in SoBadItsGood.[[/note]]
* The Dupes overrunning the ''VideoGame/GarrysMod'' community on Steam, and the hordes and hordes of prepubescent children screaming over animatronics, threatening to ''kill'' anyone who criticises their favourite series, or again the massive plague of Dupes filling the Workshop?

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* The truckloads of [[RuleThirtyFour porn?]] Whether the {{plothole}}s or [[WhatAnIdiot the guard keeps returning]] are valid criticisms or not? Whether the animatronics are [[MaybeMagicMaybeMundane malfunctioning or actually haunted?]] Whether the game is actually scary or not? Pretty much anything can set one person off or another in the right places.

* The hordes of roleplayers on Steam, Gamejolt and the comments section of every FNAF video. Are they some of the most annoying members of the fanbase, or are they being creative?[[note]]Though a ''large'' amount of said roleplayers are... less then quality, often resulting in SoBadItsGood.[[/note]]
* The Dupes overrunning the ''VideoGame/GarrysMod'' community on Steam, and the hordes and hordes of prepubescent children screaming over animatronics, threatening to ''kill'' anyone who criticises their favourite series, or again the massive plague of Dupes filling the Workshop?
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* [[Literature/FiveNightsAtFreddysTheSilverEyes The book]] has proven one of the most divisive things to come out of the franchise, which is saying quite a bit. Flame wars over its canon status and the apparent retcons erupted mere hours after it was released.
* The constant accusations of the series having multiple games ''after the second game'', mind you, has gotten this to some fans and especially detractors, especially when the third game was announced. While Scott has been secretive with the series being done with the fourth game, however due to [[TrollingCreator usual shtick]], some (''especially'' detractors) will complain when he announces another part of the franchise.

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* [[Literature/FiveNightsAtFreddysTheSilverEyes The book]] has proven one of the most divisive things to come out of the franchise, which is saying quite a bit. Flame wars over its canon status and the apparent retcons erupted mere hours after it was released.
* The constant accusations of the series having multiple games ''after the second game'', mind you, has gotten this to some fans and especially detractors, especially when the third game was announced. While Scott has been secretive with the series being done with the fourth game, however due to [[TrollingCreator usual shtick]], some (''especially'' detractors) will complain when he announces another part of the franchise.
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* [[EpilepticTrees The "Experiment Theory"]], which posits that the events of ''4'' were engineered and monitored by the Purple Guy/William Afton from [[spoiler:the Private Room]] as some sort of experiment. Some like this idea for reasons similar to the above-mentioned Custom Night twist, while others see it as far-fetched and breaking their WillingSuspensionOfDisbelief, since what was once a fairly realistic child murderer is now slowly becoming a cartoonish MadScientist.[[labelnote:*]]A related theory posits ''the entire series'' was done by Afton as some sort of experiment with creating life, which naturally results in both sides being more heated on the issue (''The Silver Eyes'' universe going along with this interpretation doesn't help).[[/labelnote]]
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* TheReveal that [[spoiler:the game could be (according to fans) a prequel]] literally set off fifteen flamewars in five minutes. [[FanonDiscontinuity Some people refuse to believe it]], and others refuse to ''not'' believe it.

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* TheReveal that [[spoiler:the game could be (according to fans) was a prequel]] literally set off fifteen flamewars in five minutes. [[FanonDiscontinuity Some people refuse refused to believe it]], and others refuse to ''not'' believe it.
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* The idea that this may be the [[GrandFinale final game of the series]] has the fanbase riled up; some people claim that they don't want another game, saying that the main story is over and to leave it on a high note, while others want a deeper explanation of what went on in the backstory (like what happened at Fazbear's Diner), even pointing out the multiple {{sequel hook}}s that the third game laid out. All of this quickly escalated when various Let's Players who had been in contact with Scott began leaving random and cryptic hints about the series' future such as "it's coming" and after the hat on Scott's website was removed.


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* The idea that this may be would have been the [[GrandFinale final game of the series]] has had the fanbase riled up; some people claim claimed that they don't didn't want another game, saying that the main story is over and to leave it on a high note, while others want wanted a deeper explanation of what went on in the backstory (like what happened at Fazbear's Diner), even pointing out the multiple {{sequel hook}}s that the third game laid out. All of this quickly escalated when various Let's Players who had been in contact with Scott began leaving random and cryptic hints about the series' future such as "it's coming" and after the hat on Scott's website was removed.

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* Then there's the Custom Night's revelation that [[spoiler:you play as the GreaterScopeVillain's son, [[RememberTheNewGuy who is implied to have been the Purple Man seen in at least some of the minigames]] and [[AmbiguousSituation maybe even]] Springtrap, and ''not'' his father as initially assumed]]. Depending on who you ask, this is either a brilliant PlotTwist that makes one eager for a sequel, or [[ShockingSwerve a needless, out of nowhere]] and complicated retcon to [[KudzuPlot an already bloated and complicated story]], which also serves to [[spoiler:[[HappyEndingOverride cheapen]] ''Videogame/FiveNightsAtFreddys3'' and how that game [[EarnYourHappyEnding ended things nicely]]]].

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* Then there's the Custom Night's revelation that [[spoiler:you play as the GreaterScopeVillain's son, [[RememberTheNewGuy who is implied to have been the Purple Man seen in at least some of the minigames]] and minigames throughout the franchise]] (and [[AmbiguousSituation maybe even]] Springtrap, Springtrap), and ''not'' his father as initially assumed]]. Depending on who you ask, this is either a brilliant PlotTwist that makes one eager for a sequel, or [[ShockingSwerve a needless, out of nowhere]] and complicated retcon to [[KudzuPlot an already bloated and complicated story]], which also serves to [[spoiler:[[HappyEndingOverride cheapen]] ''Videogame/FiveNightsAtFreddys3'' and how that game [[EarnYourHappyEnding ended things nicely]]]].
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* Then there's the Custom Night's revelation that [[spoiler:you play as the GreaterScopeVillain's son, [[RememberTheNewGuy who is implied to have been the Purple Man seen in at least some of the minigames]] and [[AmbiguousSituation maybe even]] Springtrap, and ''not'' his father as initially assumed]]. Depending on who you ask, this is either a brilliant PlotTwist that makes one eager for a sequel, or [[ShockingSwerve a needless, out of nowhere]] and complicated retcon to [[KudzuPlot an already bloated and complicated story]], which also serves to [[spoiler:[[HappyEndingOverride cheapen]] ''Videogame/FiveNightsAtFreddys3'' and how that game [[EarnYourHappyEnding ended things nicely]]]].
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!! ''VideoGame/FiveNightsAtFreddysSisterLocation''
* While many people were hyped for the game and thought it was needed for story purposes, as the lore was mostly unsolved, many other people who were satisfied with either ''FNAF 3'' or ''4'' ending the series weren't very happy about its reveal, accusing Scott of milking the series.
* Prior to the game's debut trailer, one of the most common theories was that the "lines" teaser was hinting at a ''[[VideoGame/ChipperAndSonsLumberCo Chipper & Sons]]'' horror game. This caused a split between those who were interested in the idea (since ''Chipper & Sons'' already has its share of creepy moments) and those who weren't comfortable with the thought of it.
* The [[AmbiguousGender gender]] debate for Funtime Foxy/Mangle has sparked yet again. Some aspects of the game imply that it's male, such as the absence of [[TertiarySexualCharacteristics long eyelashes]] and a more masculine face compared to its depiction in ''FNAF World''. Points in favor of it being female are long fingernails, a trait that is almost ''always'' applied to women, and lipstick (although those could be explained as claws and clown makeup respectively). To make matters worse Funtime Foxy is referred to with no pronouns on the first night, "he" on the second night, then "she" on the third, and it's the only animatronic to [[TheSpeechless remain silent for the whole game]]. This is likely intentional on [[TrollingCreator Scott's]] part.

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* A couple of users were disappointed and/or angry with Nightmare BB's presentation, some of them insulting Scott via email or Reddit, while others were fine with the result.

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* A couple of users were disappointed [[https://np.reddit.com/r/fivenightsatfreddys/comments/4vf079/rantramble_i_dislike_how_nightmare_bb_has_been/ disappointed]] and/or angry with Nightmare BB's presentation, some of them insulting Scott ''insulting Scott'' via email or Reddit, while others were fine with the result.result.
** Despite being almost a year after his addition, the user who requested for Nightmare Balloon Boy is ''still'' attempting to have him changed.
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* The constant accusations of the series having multiple games ''after the second game'', mind you, has gotten this to some fans and especially detractors, especially when the third game was announced. While Scott has been secretive with the series being done with the fourth game, however due to [[TrollingCreator usual shtick]], some (''especially'' detractors) will complain when he announces another part of the franchise.
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*** The Mangle base was probably broken even further with the release of ''FNAF World''. On the day the game came out, the loading screens exclusively referred to Mangle as male. However, the ''very'' next day, when Scott updated the game to include some missing features, he also made it so that the screen alternates between calling Mangle "he" and "she". While this was most likely Scott being himself and wanting to keep the gender unknown, it only caused more problems. The male side of the debate [[InternetBackdraft '''''exploded''''']] into a rage of fits and outbursts, bombarding the female side with insults and proclaiming that their initially negative reaction is what caused it. In other words, they think Mangle ''was'' confirmed male, and that the "she" screen was only added so the female side wouldn't "harass" Scott. Some even claim this as fact, despite it not being confirmed. Either way, the base remains more broken than ever. At this point, it's unlikely the gender will ever be confirmed officially.

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*** The Mangle base was probably broken even further with the release of ''FNAF World''. On the day the game came out, the loading screens exclusively referred to Mangle as male. However, the ''very'' next day, when Scott updated the game to include some missing features, he also made it so that the screen alternates between calling Mangle "he" and "she". While this was most likely Scott being himself and wanting to keep the gender unknown, it only caused more problems. The male side of the debate [[InternetBackdraft '''''exploded''''']] '''''[[InternetBackdraft exploded]]''''' into a rage of fits and outbursts, bombarding the female side with insults and proclaiming that their initially negative reaction is what caused it. In other words, they think Mangle ''was'' confirmed male, and that the "she" screen was only added so the female side wouldn't "harass" Scott. Some even claim this as fact, despite it not being confirmed. Either way, the base remains more broken than ever. At this point, it's unlikely the gender will ever be confirmed officially.
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*** The Mangle base was probably broken even further with the release of ''FNAF World''. On the day the game came out, the loading screens exclusively referred to Mangle as male. However, the ''very'' next day, when Scott updated the game to include some missing features, he also made it so that the screen alternates between calling Mangle "he" and "she". While this was most likely Scott being himself and wanting to keep the gender unknown, it only caused more problems. The male side of the debate literally '''''exploded''''' into a rage of fits and outbursts, bombarding the female side with insults and proclaiming that their initially negative reaction is what caused it. In other words, they think Mangle ''was'' confirmed male, and that the "she" screen was only added so the female side wouldn't "harass" Scott. Some even claim this as fact, despite it not being confirmed. Either way, the base remains more broken than ever. At this point, it's unlikely the gender will ever be confirmed officially.

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*** The Mangle base was probably broken even further with the release of ''FNAF World''. On the day the game came out, the loading screens exclusively referred to Mangle as male. However, the ''very'' next day, when Scott updated the game to include some missing features, he also made it so that the screen alternates between calling Mangle "he" and "she". While this was most likely Scott being himself and wanting to keep the gender unknown, it only caused more problems. The male side of the debate literally '''''exploded''''' [[InternetBackdraft '''''exploded''''']] into a rage of fits and outbursts, bombarding the female side with insults and proclaiming that their initially negative reaction is what caused it. In other words, they think Mangle ''was'' confirmed male, and that the "she" screen was only added so the female side wouldn't "harass" Scott. Some even claim this as fact, despite it not being confirmed. Either way, the base remains more broken than ever. At this point, it's unlikely the gender will ever be confirmed officially.

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*** And then, when Funtime Foxy was confirmed for ''VideoGame/FiveNightsAtFreddysSisterLocation'', the FNAF wiki administrator decided that because the copyright list refers to Funtime Foxy as "Foxy the Pirate (Funtime Version)", that the animatronic is automatically male, and decided to list Adventure Funtime Foxy (AKA Fixed Mangle) as male. Three guesses as to [[InternetBackdraft what]] happened next.
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*** And then, when Funtime Foxy was confirmed for ''VideoGame/FiveNightsAtFreddysSisterLocation'', the FNAF wiki administrator decided that because the copyright list refers to Funtime Foxy as "Foxy the Pirate (Funtime Version), that the animatronic is automatically male, and decided to list Adventure Funtime Foxy (AKA Fixed Mangle) as male. Three guesses as to [[InternetBackdraft what]] happened next.

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*** And then, when Funtime Foxy was confirmed for ''VideoGame/FiveNightsAtFreddysSisterLocation'', the FNAF wiki administrator decided that because the copyright list refers to Funtime Foxy as "Foxy the Pirate (Funtime Version), Version)", that the animatronic is automatically male, and decided to list Adventure Funtime Foxy (AKA Fixed Mangle) as male. Three guesses as to [[InternetBackdraft what]] happened next.
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*** And then, when Funtime Foxy was confirmed for VideoGame/FiveNightsAtFreddysSisterLocation, the FNAF wiki administrator decided that because the copyright list refers to Funtime Foxy as "Foxy the Pirate (Funtime Version), that the animatronic is automatically male, and decided to list Adventure Funtime Foxy (AKA Fixed Mangle) as male. Three guesses as to [[InternetBackdraft what]] happened next.

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*** And then, when Funtime Foxy was confirmed for VideoGame/FiveNightsAtFreddysSisterLocation, ''VideoGame/FiveNightsAtFreddysSisterLocation'', the FNAF wiki administrator decided that because the copyright list refers to Funtime Foxy as "Foxy the Pirate (Funtime Version), that the animatronic is automatically male, and decided to list Adventure Funtime Foxy (AKA Fixed Mangle) as male. Three guesses as to [[InternetBackdraft what]] happened next.

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