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"I'm so f**king confused normal mangle is a yes phantom mangle is supposedly a male people are speculating Funtime foxy is female nightmare mangle is still genderless my head hurts" [sic]
Golden mangled fox, Five Night at Freddy's Wiki

The Five Nights at Freddy's fandom is infamous for many reasons. One of which being that if the fanbase agrees on ANYTHING, then you found an almost nonexistant scenario.


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  • The hordes of roleplayers on Steam, Gamejolt and the comments section of every FNAF video. Are they some of the most annoying members of the fanbase, or are they being creative?
  • The lore:
    • Whether its the main draw of the series. Those for it feel that the game itself is just a sideshow, with the story being the true reward for progressing and beating the games. Others consider the story an afterthought, preferring the gameplay, jumpscares and reactions from various YouTubers.
    • The fact that much of the lore has to be actively sought and figured out. Those for it feel that the search and Epileptic Trees is the most engaging part of the lore and that finding it is more rewarding than just having it spoonfed. Others feel frustrated at the lengths it takes to find everything and feel it isn't worth the effort when its so ambiguous most of the time, in addition to Scott rarely explicitly clarifying anything himself. One of the biggest factors in the split is how intricate and complex the lore became over time, with further debates breaking out over whether or not the lore is even solvable.
  • Mangle's Ambiguous Gender is infamous for the astronomical flame wars it has caused. Every game since 2 has given Mangle various characteristics, dialogue, counterparts or flavor text that always leaves it ambiguous and provides evidence for both sides, causing arguments to flare up whenever Mangle or its counterparts were confirmed for a game. Scott, Trolling Creator he is, only gave either inconclusive answers or straight up trolled both sides of the argument, presumably to keep it ambiguous. To this day, Mangle has no confirmed canon gender and fans have since debated their own answers ranging from girl, boy, none, one gender for each counterpart and yes.
  • When should the series have ended, if at all? This has become a common debate since the 3rd game, with the most common answers being 3 and 4:
    • Those in favor of 3 point out that it had the most conclusive ending by seemingly having the missing children move on and giving the murderer his comeuppance. Those against 3 state that while it was a happy ending, it still left enough unanswered questions and set up enough hooks to prevent it from being a true ending. Helping this viewpoint is future games overriding both the prior points, making the ending less happy in hindsight unless fans chose to ignore everything from 4 onward.
    • Those in favor of 4 feel the story was best concluded there, ending the past era on a fittingly bleak note while answering a few burning questions fans had about the past. Those against it point out that the game's lore was at its most confusing in this game and that ending it here would've left many unanswered questions (that future games have since addressed) unless Scott himself decided to elaborate on them back then.
    • A third group feels that the series shouldn't end at all, citing the fact that every game since 2 has left unanswered questions or set up hooks for future games, making it impossible for the series to end at any set point until Scott decides to fully conclude the story. Those against this mindset feel that with FNAF often being treated like a Cash Cow Franchise (even if it's clear Scott doesn't milk it), ending the story seems less and less likely.


Five Nights at Freddy's

  • Bonnie's gender was unknown for quite some time. While the gender wars weren't quite as astronomical as Mangle's, it was pretty heavy until Scott confirmed he was male indirectly.

Five Nights at Freddy's 2

Five Nights at Freddy's 3

  • Before the game was released, the idea of Springtrap being the only animatronic. Some thought it would made for a more terrifying threat having only one after you. Others thought that the lack of threats made the game too easy. This was more or less settled when the Phantom animatronics were revealed as threats, but non-lethal ones, meaning there was still technically one animatronic.
  • Before the first trailer, the idea of having walking instead of being restricted to a stationary position. Those who were for it stated that it would add a whole new element to the series while those against it thought that the series would lose the Controlled Helplessness aspect that made the games scary.
  • The setting being a horror attraction instead of a pizzeria. Those for it feel the change in venue was necessary to help spice things up a bit, while those against it felt that not having it at a pizzeria took away the Suck E. Cheese's aspect that made the prior 2 games scary.

Five Nights at Freddy's 4

  • Fans were split on whether the Nightmare Animatronics were either the most terrifying renditions of the main animatronics to date, or too over the top in their scary elements to the point of Narm.
  • The fact that the game takes place in a house instead of some variation of Freddy's Pizzeria caused a split. One contingent of fans considered it scarier that the threats were in your house instead of a job that you could simply leave, while others thought the change of location felt out of place for the series and that it should stick to an actual Fazbear Entertainment building.
  • The game's big reveal fell into controversy when a certain scene hinted that the minigames may have taken place four years prior to '87. Fans became split on whether this was a Red Herring or something else entirely, to the point where debates got very toxic. Suffice to say, there were a large amount of clues both supporting and refuting the date. Scott's confirmation that Nightmare BB was canon did nothing to ease the confusion. The debate was eventually settled when Scott commended Game Theory's "The Final Theory" video for getting the year correct, confirming that the game's minigames do indeed take place in 1983, instead of 1987.
  • Scott's decision to leave the box closed and have the fanbase put the pieces together themselves. Some were okay with it, believing that they just needed to keep on trying to figure it out and that solving it was part of the fun. Others were disappointed that the biggest secret in the then-final game of the series would remain unanswered. The fact that Scott also said that nobody had managed to figure out the story of 4 despite having easily solved the other 3 games' stories factored into the disappointment and those who had been struggling to figure out the lore were turned off from the series with this revelation.
  • When do the five nights take place and, in addition, who is the one having them? There is evidence that backs up the player being the older brother sometime after the bite or the Crying Child before or after The Bite.
  • A couple of users were disappointed and/or angry with Nightmare BB's presentation, some of them insulting Scott via email or Reddit, while others were fine with the result.
  • The Dream Theory, which says that the Crying Child from the fourth game dreamed all the previous games. Fans either hated it as a year of theorizing was useless, or loved it as it explained some of the things we see in the fourth game. Although Word of God jossed the theory long ago, some still think it was the original answer.

Five Nights at Freddy's: Sister Location

Five Nights at Freddy's World

  • As expected, the fandom was divided between those who thought the game's direction was the wrong way to go and went against everything the series was about and those who were simply excited to have a new game or were actually looking forward to the Unexpected Gameplay Change.
  • The pristine Spring Bonnie having 'feminine' eyelashes caused quite a few fans to speak out against it, with some of them even going so far as to consider it an Unsettling Gender Reveal, while others felt this didn't necessarily mean Spring Bonnie was female, pointing out that Toy Bonnie, who also has eyelashes, was confirmed to be male.
  • After the game came out, users were divided on whether they enjoyed it or not. The lack of an actual storyline, or giving you hints on what to do next turned some people off, leading them to refund the game on Steam. Others didn't care about the game's flaws, liking it for what it was.
  • The visual style. While some liked the colorful and flashy style, others described it as "an assault on the eyes", in the literal sense of it hurting their eyes to play the game for extended periods due to all the flashy colors and the sheer amount of stuff going on at once.

Freddy Fazbear's Pizzeria Simulator

  • Springtrap's design in this game was the subject of heavy debating on its reveal, with it becoming better-known, and referred to from UCN onward, as Scraptrap. Those who liked the design felt that such a drastic change was natural given the already-deteriorating Springtrap had to survive a fire and an unknown amount of time has passed since then, likely necessitating having more damage and using new parts to justify his design change. Those against it felt it was way too drastic of a change to the point that it looked Uncanny Valley even by the standards of FNAF animatronics and made Springtrap look so unrecognizable that people weren't even sure it was him at first.

Ultimate Custom Night

  • Scott's decision to leave the UCN as is and not add a cutscene after 50/20. Some were relieved since they wouldn't have to spend entire days beating the mode all over again just to get to a minute-long cutscene, while another camp were disappointed to see that there was no reward for doing the impossible. Both groups were alleviated however, when Scott revealed that he would add an award on the menu (that is retroactive, thus it will appear automatically if 50/20 was completed beforehand).

Five Nights At Freddys VR Help Wanted

  • The game barely existing and being canon already caused a lot of trouble. Some say that it's good that the series continues, while some argue that it cheapens the ending of Pizzeria Simulator.
  • William is back. Some fans think that it's great the Big Bad returned and is creepier than ever before, while some argue that it cheapens the ending of Pizzeria Simulator on a whole another level.
  • Some dialogue says that Scott Cawthon exists in canon and made the previous games after being hired by Fazbear Entertainment, which basically makes the game a reboot. Fanbase was split between those who hate the idea because it makes years of theorizing All for Nothing, while others don't mind as it doesn't mean the previous games are gone. Word of God eventually jossed this theory.


Five Nights at Freddy's: The Fourth Closet

  • Charlie's Robotic Reveal in the third act of the book, as well as the related reveal that the real Charlie, not Sammy, was William's first victim. Those who defend the twist point to various bits of subtle foreshadowing throughout the first two books, including Charlie's feeling that some of her old memories belong to someone else, the mysterious detail of her three closets, and William's strange dialogue upon first getting a good look at her, that serve as a brilliant Re-Read Bonus; many also argue that the twist makes Charlie into a more interesting parallel with both Elizabeth and her own game counterpart, the Puppet. Detractors argue that, even if the twist was foreshadowed, it still makes very little sense (particularly the idea that Charlie could have been a robot for 14 years without anyone, including herself, ever realizing it), as well as opens up plot holes such as what happened to Sammy if he wasn't killed by William (aside from a single one-sentence reference implying he's still alive).

Five Nights at Freddy's: Fazbear Frights

  • The fact that the book series introduces stranger and more explicitly fantastical elements than previous installments of the franchise- such as time travel, (seemingly) magical necklaces, and body-swapping robots, among many other elements- has split the fandom right down the middle. Half of the fandom is just fine with it, arguing that the series (which has featured haunted robots pretty much from the beginning) has never exactly been a bastion of realism, and are excited by the wider story possibilities this opens up; the other half is frustrated with the departure from what they were expecting and firmly ignores any potential impact the books might have on the lore.
    • Following the release of Bunny Call, a sub-debate of this has popped up regarding the second story, "In the Flesh". Even among those who are fans of the more openly supernatural horror of the books, a story in which the main character becomes pregnant with a baby Springtrap was seen by quite a few as taking it too far, further fracturing the base.
  • On a closely related note, the question of whether or not to treat the books as canon is a very heated one for similar reasons. Proponents of doing so argue that stories like "The Man in Room 1280" and the Epilogues from Step Closer onward are clearly setting the story up as a Stealth Sequel to Freddy Fazbear's Pizzeria Simulator, and that it wouldn't make sense for the authors to pull a Bait-and-Switch of it not being set in the games' timeline; the fact that there are distinct thematic and visual similarities between the Miscreation and the new form of Glitchtrap from the mobile port of Help Wanted is often used as evidence that these books are meant to be taken as canon with these books. Those who reject these books as canon (often for the reasons mentioned in the above bullet point) point to the fact that certain details seem to contradict stated or implied lore from the games (such as the spirit possessing Golden Freddy being a boy named Andrew rather than a girl named Cassidy) and prefer to think of the books' events simply being metaphors for events in the games, rather than literally taking place in the games' timeline.
    • The possibility that not all of the stories take place in the same timeline doesn't help matters, nor does the fact that one of the few stories to feature a human character from the games, "Coming Home", most likely doesn't take place in the game timeline due to contradicting details about how Susie was killed.
  • The fact that William is once again the main villain is something of a divisive point among fans. Some groups are just fine with it, seeing it as a way of averting the Villain Decay that William underwent after the fifth and sixth games (and the second and third novels) slowly turned him into more and more of a Mad Scientist, as well as opening up a massive opportunity for both further stories and fanfics. Other camps are frustrated to essentially have it confirmed that William escaped his fate yet again, seeing the sixth game as the perfect ending for his story arc, with both these books and Help Wanted performing a Happy Ending Override. The fact that the Fazbear Frights might be in a different universe does calm down the base a bit (though the reverse is very much not true, as the reveal only further muddies the waters about whether or not the books should be considered canon).
  • The fact that "The Man in Room 1280" also implies that the events of Ultimate Custom Night were not William's personal hell, but rather a Battle in the Center of the Mind between him and Andrew, has mixed reception. Some think it makes much more sense than it being literal hell while others think it's just a cheap explanation for William coming back after FNaF 6.

    Base Breaking Characters 
  • William Afton, the Purple Guy, was formerly universally loved for his role in the story, but became more divisive as future games expanded on his character and revealed more about him. Those who like him feel he is a genuinely terrifying and realistic depiction of a Serial Killer and love him for his role as the Greater-Scope Villain of the older games. Others dislike him for being a Karma Houdini for the most part, the revealing of his character and motivations taking away from the original mystique behind the ambiguity of both, and his gradual characterization into more of a Mad Scientist figure than a realistic child murderer.
  • Foxy. Either you like him as a character or hate him for overshadowing the other animatronics.
  • The Toy animatronics in the second game are designed to be more colorful, childish, and feminine than their older counterparts, as shown by Toy Bonnie and Mangle, while the classic animatronics (except for Foxy) appear to have been pushed to the side and left in states of disrepair. Fans were divided on whether the Toy animatronics are as good as the classic ones and whether or not they are scary.
    • Toy Chica. She has a more humanoid body and shorts that look like panties at first glance. Fans found her "sexualized" look either funny, disgusting, or fittingly disturbing and unnerving. Similarly, the fact that she takes off her beak and eyes is either horrifying to look at or makes her look like Pikachu or a yellow M&M.
  • Balloon Boy. Some think he is annoying, while others think he's overhated.
  • The older brother in FNAF4. Is he an irredeemable jackass or just a dumb kid who made a Tragic Mistake? That he's implied to be Michael Afton, who is in turn implied to be Mike Schmidt, and possibly the rest of the night guards only divides people further on whether he redeemed himself or if its too little, too late.

    Fazbear Fanverse 


  • The logo itself. Some don't mind it and say it looks nice, while others don't think such a colorful, cheerful logo would fit for a horror franchise, especially something like The Joy of Creation: Ignited Collection.

Five Nights at Freddy's Plus

  • The designs. Some say they don't mind and it actually makes the game better as it's Uncanny Valley Up to Eleven, which fits in a horror game, and that it's a non-canon remake and Phisnom doesn't need to stick to the original designs. Some say they just look too ugly and scary to be a in a children's restaurant and are too distant from the original designs.

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