History BrokenBase / FiveNightsAtFreddys

* Gregory, the protagonist of ''Security Breach'', is quite possibly the second-most divisive character in the entire series, only behind William; some fans like him for actually fighting back against his attackers and winning, viewing him as a MemeticBadass. Others dislike him for his actions towards [[spoiler:the brainwashed Glamrocks, damaging them and giving their upgrades to Glamrock Freddy, despite the latter's protests]]. Not only has this led to him being seen as UnintentionallyUnsympathetic, but some people have gone as far as to give him RonTheDeathEater treatment, theorizing that he is secretly evil and/or is actually [[spoiler:Patient 46]] (which the books largely imply to be true, funnily enough). It also doesn't help that he's seen by some as a VanillaProtagonist, while the Glamrocks are seen as more interesting characters. His reception amongst the fanbase only grew worse after [[spoiler:his betrayal of Cassie in ''Ruin'''s Normal Ending, where he lets her fall down an elevator shaft]].

* [[spoiler:The Mimic has become one of the most divisive characters in the entire series recently. Some people like the Mimic being the replacement for William Afton, since it finally removes Afton's JokerImmunity and makes way for a fresh new villain, as well as making it so that Henry's efforts in ''Pizzeria Simulator'' are no longer in vain. Others however don't like the Mimic taking over the title of BigBad of the franchise, mainly because they feel that the Mimic is a [[GenericDoomsdayVillain boring villain with no real motivation]] and that the heavy sci-fi elements he brought with him take away from what made the series scary to begin with. It doesn't help that it's heavily implied that Glitchtrap is actually The Mimic's A.I. program, [=Mimic1=], which caused even more heated debates on whether Glitchtrap is Mimic or not and whether making Glitchtrap Mimic was a good idea. Perhaps the biggest issue with the Mimic as the new main villain is that a majority of his screentime requires you to read the entirety of the ''Tales from the Pizzaplex'' novels, meaning that those who only play the games have no idea who he is and what he is capable of when he finally appeared in ''Security Breach - Ruin''.]]

* Circus Baby. Is she an interesting and tragic character who was well written, or is she a SpotlightStealingSquad which is completely useless story-wise? However, the most controversial part of her character is definitely the ending of ''Pizzeria Simulator'', [[spoiler:where she's the one that was given attention while her father, the BigBad himself, was sidelined]]; Sometimes, even the biggest Circus Baby fans will admit that her father deserved this attention, and not her.

* [[spoiler:The Mimic has becomed one of the most divisive characters in the entire series recently. Some people likes The Mimic being the replacement of William Afton due to the fresh new start of villains this would make and argue that at least, Henry’s efforts in Pizzeria Simulator wasn’t in vain. Some however don’t like The Mimic to take over the title of the BigBad of the franchise, mainly because they feel that The Mimic is a boring villain with no real motivations, that it takes away what made the series scary. It doesn’t help the fact that it’s heavily implied that Glitchtrap is actually The Mimic’s A.I. program, Mimic1, which caused even more heated debates whether Glitchtrap is Mimic or not and whether making Glitchtrap Mimic was a good idea.]]

* [[spoiler:The Mimic has becomed one of the most divisive characters in the entire serries. Some people likes The Mimic being the replacement of William Afton due to the fresh new start of villains this would make and argue that at least, Henry’s efforts in Pizzeria Simulator wasn’t in vain. Some however don’t like The Mimic to take over the title of the BigBad of the franchise, mainly because they feel that The Mimic is a boring villain with no real motivations, that it takes away what made the series scary. It doesn’t help the fact that it’s implied that Glitchtrap is actually The Mimic’s A.I. program, Mimic1, which caused even more heated debates whether Glitchtrap is Mimic or not and whether making Glitchtrap Mimic was a good idea.]]

* [[spoiler:The Mimic is this to the fandom. Some people likes The Mimic being the replacement of William Afton due to the fresh new start of villains this would make and argue that at least, Henry’s efforts in Pizzeria Simulator wasn’t in vain. Some however don’t like The Mimic to take over the title of the BigBad of the franchise, mainly because they feel that The Mimic is a boring villain with no real motivations, that it takes away what made the series scary. It doesn’t help the fact that it’s implied that Glitchtrap is actually The Mimic’s A.I. program, Mimic1, which caused even more heated debates whether Glitchtrap is Mimic or not and whether making Glitchtrap Mimic was a good idea.]]

* Balloon Boy. Some think he's annoying for [[YouAreAlreadyDead his mechanic]] and annoying laugh, while others think he's overhated.

** That being said, it's probably worth mentioning that one of the animatronics -- specifically [[spoiler:Monty]] -- is implied to have [[spoiler:murdered Glamrock Bonnie prior to being reprogrammed]] which, [[AmbiguousSituation if true]], would mean that [[spoiler:Monty's decommissioning]] [[LaserGuidedKarma was actually well-deserved]], [[RightForTheWrongReasons even if Gregory didn't know beforehand]].
** Additionally, the ''Tales from the Pizzaplex'' story "GGY" heavily implies that [[spoiler:Gregory was under Glitchtrap's influence at some point before the game]], which may be the source of [[spoiler:his destructive behavior]].

** Perhaps the most divisive aspect of his character is his JokerImmunity. His survival after ''VideoGame/FiveNightsAtFreddys3'' wasn't ''too'' much of a sore point with the fandom, since it had already [[TheEndOrIsIt been teased]] in that game; [[spoiler:however, ''VideoGame/FreddyFazbearsPizzeriaSimulator'' seemed designed to perfectly end his story, seeing him and all his creations- intentional or otherwise- finally meet a fiery end, punctuated by an ''incredibly badass'' speech from Henry/Casette Man, in contrast to his very low-key "death" in ''3'']]. His survival in the franchise after ''that'' had some fans feeling he'd overstayed his welcome as the BigBad and hoped he would get officially replaced. The debate only worsened after the True Ending of ''Security Breach'' revealed [[spoiler:he survived the fire, had him regain his physical form and saw him getting dragged away by The Blob as the remains of the Pizza Place collapsed in ''another'' fire, yet another ambiguous fate for him that leaves his survival open]].

* Circus Baby. Is she an interesting and tragic character who was well written, or is she a SpotlightStealingSquad which is completely useless story-wise? However, the most controversial part of her character is definitely the ending of ''Pizzeria Simulator'', [[spoiler:where she's the one that was given attention while her father, the BigBad himself, was sidelined]]; Sometimes, even the biggest Baby fans will admit that her father deserved this attention, and not her.
* Gregory, the protagonist of ''Security Breach'', is quite possibly the second-most divisive character in the entire series, only behind William; some fans like him for actually fighting back against his attackers, [[spoiler:including the aforementioned William]], and winning, viewing him as a MemeticBadass. Others dislike him for his actions towards [[spoiler:the brainwashed Glamrocks, damaging them and giving their upgrades to Glamrock Freddy, despite the latter's protests]]. Not only has this led to him being seen as UnintentionallyUnsympathetic, but some people have gone as far as to give him RonTheDeathEater treatment, theorizing that he is secretly evil and/or is actually [[spoiler:Patient 46]] (which the books largely imply to be true, funnily enough). It also doesn't help that he's seen by some as a VanillaProtagonist, while the Glamrocks are seen as more interesting characters. His reception amongst the fanbase only grew worse after [[spoiler:his betrayal of Cassie in ''Ruin'''s Normal Ending, where he lets her fall down an elevator shaft]].

* Gregory, the protagonist of ''Security Breach'', is quite possibly the second-most divisive character in the entire series, only behind William; some fans like him for actually fighting back against his attackers, [[spoiler:including the aforementioned William]], and winning, viewing him as a MemeticBadass. Others dislike him for his actions towards [[spoiler:the brainwashed Glamrocks, damaging them and giving their upgrades to Glamrock Freddy, despite the latter's protests]]. Not only has this led to him being seen as UnintentionallyUnsympathetic, but some people have gone as far as to give him RonTheDeathEater treatment, theorizing that he is secretly evil and/or is actually [[spoiler:Patient 46]]. It also doesn't help that he's seen by some as a VanillaProtagonist, while the Glamrocks are seen as more interesting characters.

* Foxy. Either you like him as a character or hate him for overshadowing the other animatronics.

** That being said, it's probably worth mentioning that one of the animatronics - specifically [[spoiler:Monty]] - is implied to have [[spoiler:murdered Glamrock Bonnie prior to being reprogrammed]] which, [[AmbiguousSituation if true]], would mean that [[spoiler:Monty's decommissioning]] [[LaserGuidedKarma was actually well-deserved]], [[RightForTheWrongReasons even if Gregory didn't know beforehand]].

** Additionally, the ''Tales from the Pizzaplex'' story heavily implies that [[spoiler:Gregory was under Glitchtrap's influence at some point before the game]], which may be the source of [[spoiler:his destructive behavior]].

** Perhaps the most divisive aspect of his character is his JokerImmunity. His survival after ''VideoGame/FiveNightsAtFreddys3'' wasn't ''too'' much of a sore point with the fandom, since it had already [[TheEndOrIsIt been teased]] in that game; [[spoiler:however, ''VideoGame/FreddyFazbearsPizzeriaSimulator'' seemed designed to perfectly end his story, seeing him and all his creations- intentional or otherwise- finally meet a fiery end, punctuated by an ''incredibly badass'' speech from Henry/Casette Man, in contrast to his very low-key "death" in ''3'']]. His survival in the franchise after ''that'' had some fans feeling he'd overstayed his welcome as the BigBad and hoped he would get officially replaced. The debate only worsened after the True Ending of ''Security Breach'' revealed [[spoiler:he survived the fire, had him regain his physical form and saw him getting dragged away by The Blob as the [=PizzaPlex=] collapsed in ''another'' fire, yet another UncertainDoom for him that leaves his survival open]].

* Springtrap's design in this game was the subject of heavy debating on its reveal, with it becoming better-known, and referred to from ''UCN'' onward, as Scraptrap. Those who liked the design felt that such a drastic change was natural given the already-deteriorating Springtrap had to survive a fire and an unknown amount of time has passed since then, likely necessitating having more damage and using new parts to justify his design change. Those against it felt it was way too drastic of a change to the point that it looked UncannyValley even by the standards of FNAF animatronics and made Springtrap look so unrecognizable that people weren't even sure it was him at first.

* Was this a good way to end the series? People who say this should've been the ending claim that it tied up everything in a nice way, was a GoldenEnding and [[spoiler:had William get what he deserved]]. People who say this ''shouldn't'' have been the ending claim that [[spoiler:Henry]] is a DeusExMachina who shows up out of nowhere (even in-universe, [[spoiler:as he spend several decades doing nothing]]) and [[spoiler:pulls a KillEmAll]] in his first game, that [[TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodCharacter William was]] DemotedToExtra and [[spoiler:died in the most pathetic way possible, by knowingly entering a trap and the ending cutscene giving him, the BigBad of the entire franchise, zero attention besides one quick line from Henry, with the rest of the ending being completely focused on Baby and the Puppet]].

* The game's big reveal fell into controversy [[spoiler:when a [[http://i3.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/newsfeed/000/996/089/343 certain scene]] hinted that the minigames may have taken place four years prior to '87.]] Fans became split on whether this was a RedHerring or something else entirely, to the point where debates got ''very'' toxic. Suffice to say, there were a large amount of clues both supporting and refuting the date. Scott's confirmation that Nightmare BB was canon did nothing to ease the confusion. The debate was eventually settled when Scott commended Game Theory's "The Final Theory" video for getting the year correct, confirming that the game's minigames [[spoiler:do indeed take place in 1983, instead of 1987.]]

* The Dream Theory, which says that the Crying Child from the fourth game dreamed all the previous games. Fans either hated it as a year of theorizing was useless, or loved it as it explained some of the things we see in the fourth game. Although WordOfGod jossed the theory long ago, some still think it was the original answer.

* The Custom Night's revelation that you play as [[spoiler:the BigBad's son, [[TomatoInTheMirror with the implication that you are the Purple Guy seen in at least some of the minigames throughout the series]] (and [[AmbiguousSituation maybe even]] Springtrap)]], and ''not'' his father as initially assumed. Depending on who you asked, this was either a brilliant PlotTwist that made one eager for a sequel, or [[AssPull a needless, out of nowhere]] and complicated retcon to [[KudzuPlot an already bloated and complicated story]], which also served to [[spoiler:[[HappyEndingOverride cheapen]] ''Videogame/FiveNightsAtFreddys3'' and its [[EarnYourHappyEnding ending]]]]. This eventually died down when WordOfGod and ''VideoGame/FreddyFazbearsPizzeriaSimulator'' confirmed that William Afton was Springtrap, not [[spoiler:Mike]]. [[TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodPlot However, some fans still believe that this theory would make a better story]].

* Was this a good way to end the series? People who say this should've been the ending claim that it tied up everything in a nice way, was a GoldenEnding and [[spoiler:had William get what he deserved]]. People who say this ''shouldn't'' have been the ending claim that [[spoiler:Henry]] is a DeusExMachina who shows up out of nowhere (even in-universe, [[spoiler:as he spend several decades doing nothing]]) and [[spoiler:pulls a KillEmAll]] in his first game, that [[TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodCharacter William was]] DemotedToExtra and [[spoiler:died in the most pathetic way possible, by entering a trap ''knowing it was a trap'' and the ending cutscene giving him, the BigBad of the entire franchise, zero attention besides one quick line from Henry, with the rest of the ending being completely focused on Baby (go to the BaseBreakingCharacters section) and the Puppet]].

* The game barely existing and being canon already caused a lot of trouble. Some say that it's good that the series continues, while some argue that it cheapens the ending of ''Pizzeria Simulator''.
* [[BackFromTheDead William is back]]. Some fans think that it's great the BigBad returned [[NightmareFuel and is creepier than ever before]], while some argue that it cheapens the ending of ''Pizzeria Simulator'' on a whole another level. Many fans used to (and some still do) believe that Glitchtrap isn't William, but actually an AI copy while the real William is long dead.
* Some dialogue says that [[spoiler:Scott Cawthon exists in canon and made the previous games after being hired by Fazbear Entertainment]], which basically makes the game a reboot. Fanbase was split between those who ''hate'' the idea because it makes years of theorizing AllForNothing, while others don't mind as it doesn't mean the previous games are gone. WordOfGod eventually jossed this theory.

* The fact that the book series introduces [[DenserAndWackier stranger and more explicitly fantastical]] elements than previous installments of the franchise- such as time travel, (seemingly) magical necklaces, and body-swapping robots, among many other elements- has split the fandom right down the middle. Half of the fandom is just fine with it, arguing that the series (which has featured haunted robots pretty much from the beginning) has never exactly been a bastion of realism, and are excited by the wider story possibilities this opens up; the other half is frustrated with the departure from what they were expecting and firmly ignores any potential impact the books might have on the lore.

* On a closely related note, the question of whether or not to treat the books as canon is a very heated one for similar reasons. Proponents of doing so argue that stories like "The Man in Room 1280" and the Epilogues from ''Step Closer'' onward are clearly setting the story up as [[spoiler:a StealthSequel to ''Freddy Fazbear's Pizzeria Simulator'']], and that it wouldn't make sense for the authors to pull a BaitAndSwitch of it not being set in the games' timeline; the fact that there are distinct thematic and visual similarities between [[spoiler:Afton's Amalgamation]] and [[spoiler:the new form of Glitchtrap]] from the mobile port of ''Help Wanted'' is often used as evidence that these books are meant to be taken as canon with these books. Those who reject these books as canon (often for the reasons mentioned in the above bullet point) point to the fact that certain details seem to contradict stated or implied lore from the games (such as [[spoiler:the spirit possessing Golden Freddy being a boy named Andrew rather than a girl named Cassidy]]) and prefer to think of the books' events simply being metaphors for events in the games, rather than literally taking place in the games' timeline.
** The possibility that not all of the stories take place in the same timeline doesn't help matters, nor does the fact that one of the few stories to feature a human character from the games, "Coming Home", most likely ''doesn't'' take place in the game timeline due to contradicting details about [[spoiler:how Susie was killed]].
* The fact that [[spoiler:William is ''[[HereWeGoAgain once again]]'' the main villain]] is something of a divisive point among fans. Some groups are just fine with it, seeing it as a way of [[spoiler:averting the VillainDecay that William underwent after the fifth and sixth games (and the second and third novels) slowly turned him into more and more of a MadScientist]], as well as opening up a ''massive'' opportunity for both further stories and [[Main/FanficFuel fanfics]]. Other camps are frustrated to essentially have it confirmed that [[spoiler:William [[KarmaHoudini escaped his fate]] yet again]], seeing the sixth game as the perfect ending for [[spoiler:his]] story arc, with both these books and ''Help Wanted'' performing a HappyEndingOverride. The fact that the ''Fazbear Frights'' might be in a different universe does calm down the base a bit (though the reverse is very much ''not'' true, as the reveal only further muddies the waters about whether or not the books should be considered canon).
** However, this debate died down after TheReveal that [[spoiler:the ''Fazbear Frights'' version of William is a BigBadWannabe who was left [[AdaptationalWimp weak]] thanks to Andrew, and that there was a greater evil inside of his amalgamation, worse than Afton, ultimately meaning that William isn't the main villain but rather a small threat, as terrifying as that is]].
* The fact that "The Man in Room 1280" also implies that [[spoiler:the events of ''VideoGame/UltimateCustomNight'' were '''not''' William's personal hell, but rather a BattleInTheCenterOfTheMind between him and Andrew,]] has mixed reception. Some think it makes ''much'' more sense than [[spoiler:it being literal hell]] while others think it's just a cheap explanation for [[spoiler:William coming back after ''[=FNaF=] 6'']].

** Adding to the controversy is the fact that William [[JokerImmunity can't seem to stay dead]], or rather comes keeps coming back after supposedly dying. His survival after ''VideoGame/FiveNightsAtFreddys3'' wasn't ''too'' much of a sore point with the fandom, since it had already [[TheEndOrIsIt been teased]] in that game; [[spoiler:however, ''VideoGame/FreddyFazbearsPizzeriaSimulator'' seemed designed to perfectly end his story, seeing him and all his creations- intentional or otherwise- finally meet a fiery end, punctuated by an ''incredibly badass'' speech from Henry/Casette Man, in contrast to his very low-key "death" in ''3'']]. His survival in the franchise after that point, both in the form of Glitchtrap in ''VideoGame/FiveNightsAtFreddysVRHelpWanted'' and as [[spoiler:the Man in Room 1280]] in ''Literature/FiveNightsAtFreddysFazbearFrights'' (although the latter might be an alternative universe), has led to some fans saying that he has overstayed his welcome as BigBad and hoping he gets officially replaced, either by Vanny or by another new villain, from ''Security Breach'' onward. The debate only worsened after ''Security Breach'' reveals that [[spoiler:he survived the fire and has him regain his physical form. Shortly afterward, he gets seemingly dragged away by Molten Freddy into the flames, but that likely doesn't mean much, and Molten Freddy's survival itself is also quite base-breaking]].
*** Regarding the ''Fazbear Frights'' part: The debate died down a bit after [[spoiler:Epilogue 7 had William get KilledOffForReal and reveal that he's a BigBadWannabe]]. It still continues in the games.

* Balloon Boy. Some think he is annoying, while others think he's overhated.

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!!General:
* The logo itself. Some don't mind it and say it looks nice, while others don't think such a colorful, cheerful logo would fit for a horror franchise, especially something like ''[[VideoGame/TheJoyOfCreationReborn The Joy of Creation: Ignited Collection]]''.

!!''Five Nights at Freddy's Plus'':
* The designs. Some say they don't mind and it actually makes the game ''better'' as it's UncannyValley ramped up, which fits in a horror game, and that it's a non-canon remake and Phisnom doesn't need to stick to the original designs. Some say they just look too ugly and scary to be a in a children's restaurant and are too distant from the original designs.
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* Springtrap's design in this game was the subject of heavy debating on its reveal, with it becoming better-known, and referred to from ''UCN'' onward, as Scraptrap. Those who liked the design felt that such a drastic change was natural given the already-deteriorating Springtrap had to survive a fire and an unknown amount of time has passed since then, likely necessitating having more damage and using new parts to justify his design change. Those against it felt it was way too drastic of a change to the point that it looked UncannyValley [[UpToEleven even by the standards of FNAF animatronics]] and made Springtrap look so unrecognizable that people weren't even sure it was him at first.

* [[UpToEleven The game barely existing and being canon]] already caused a lot of trouble. Some say that it's good that the series continues, while some argue that it cheapens the ending of ''Pizzeria Simulator''.

* The designs. Some say they don't mind and it actually makes the game ''better'' as it's UncannyValley UpToEleven, which fits in a horror game, and that it's a non-canon remake and Phisnom doesn't need to stick to the original designs. Some say they just look too ugly and scary to be a in a children's restaurant and are too distant from the original designs.

!!''VideoGame/FiveNightsAtFreddysSecurityBreach'':
* Pretty much the entire game is this. Some fans consider it a good sequel and love fact that it's a full free-roam ''FNAF'' game, while others think it's a game with way too many bugs and a rushed plot.