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** The Mangle base was probably broken even further with the release of ''FNAF World''. On the day the game came out, the loading screens exclusively referred to Mangle as male. However, the ''very'' next day, when Scott updated the game to include some missing features, he also made it so that the screen alternates between calling Mangle "he" and "she". While this was most likely Scott being himself and wanting to keep the gender unknown, it only caused more problems. The male side of the debate literally '''''exploded''''' into a rage of fits and outbursts, bombarding the female side with insults and proclaiming that their initially negative reaction is what caused it. In other words, they think Mangle ''was'' confirmed male, and that the "she" screen was only added so the female side wouldn't "harass" Scott. Some even claim this as fact, despite it not being confirmed. Either way, the base remains more broken than ever. At this point, it's unlikely the gender will ever be confirmed officially.

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** *** The Mangle base was probably broken even further with the release of ''FNAF World''. On the day the game came out, the loading screens exclusively referred to Mangle as male. However, the ''very'' next day, when Scott updated the game to include some missing features, he also made it so that the screen alternates between calling Mangle "he" and "she". While this was most likely Scott being himself and wanting to keep the gender unknown, it only caused more problems. The male side of the debate literally '''''exploded''''' into a rage of fits and outbursts, bombarding the female side with insults and proclaiming that their initially negative reaction is what caused it. In other words, they think Mangle ''was'' confirmed male, and that the "she" screen was only added so the female side wouldn't "harass" Scott. Some even claim this as fact, despite it not being confirmed. Either way, the base remains more broken than ever. At this point, it's unlikely the gender will ever be confirmed officially.officially.
**** And then, when Funtime Foxy was confirmed for VideoGame/FiveNightsAtFreddysSisterLocation, the FNAF wiki administrator decided that because the copyright list refers to Funtime Foxy as "Foxy the Pirate (Funtime Version), that the animatronic is automatically male, and decided to list Adventure Funtime Foxy (AKA Fixed Mangle) as male. Three guesses as to [[InternetBackdraft what]] happened next.
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* The franchise as a whole. Is it a well-developed series with a creepy, disturbing atmosphere; good, tense horror mechanics which are kept unique from installment to installment; well-designed adversaries; and a surprisingly deep story if you know how to look for the StoryBreadcrumbs? Or is it a tedious, unfrightening, money-grabbing mess that is given its reputation by fanboys of the franchise, those looking to emphasis the 'indieness' of it, and famous Let's Players like LetsPlay/{{Markiplier}}?
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->''"I'm so f**king confused normal mangle is a yes phantom mangle is supposedly a male people are speculating Funtime foxy is female nightmare mangle is still genderless my head hurts"''

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* A couple of users were disappointed and/or angry with Nightmare Balloon Boy's presentation, some of them insulting Scott via email or Reddit, while others were fine with the result.

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* A couple of users were disappointed and/or angry with Nightmare Balloon Boy's BB's presentation, some of them insulting Scott via email or Reddit, while others were fine with the result.



* The Toy animatronics in the sequel are designed to be more colourful, childish, and feminine than their older counterparts, as shown by Toy Bonnie and Mangle, while the classic animatronics (except for Foxy) appear to have been pushed to the side and left in states of disrepair. Fans are divided on whether the new animatronics are as good as the classic ones or not and whether or not they are scary. Probably the biggest Base Breakers of the group are Toy Chica and Mangle.

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* The Toy animatronics in the sequel second game are designed to be more colourful, childish, and feminine than their older counterparts, as shown by Toy Bonnie and Mangle, while the classic animatronics (except for Foxy) appear to have been pushed to the side and left in states of disrepair. Fans are divided on whether the new animatronics are as good as the classic ones or not and whether or not they are scary. Probably the biggest Base Breakers of the group are Toy Chica and Mangle.



** The Mangle base was probably broken even further with the release of ''FNAF World.'' On the day the game came out, the loading screens exclusively referred to Mangle as male. However, the ''very'' next day, when Scott updated the game to include some missing features, he also made it so that the screen alternates between calling Mangle "he" and "she". While this was most likely Scott being himself and wanting to keep the gender unknown, it only caused more problems. The male side of the debate literally '''''exploded''''' into a rage of fits and outbursts, bombarding the female side with insults and proclaiming that their initially negative reaction is what caused it. In other words, they think Mangle ''was'' confirmed male, and that the "she" screen was only added so the female side wouldn't "harass" Scott. Some even claim this as fact, despite it not being confirmed. Either way, the base remains more broken than ever. At this point, it's unlikely the gender will ever be confirmed officially.

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** The Mangle base was probably broken even further with the release of ''FNAF World.'' World''. On the day the game came out, the loading screens exclusively referred to Mangle as male. However, the ''very'' next day, when Scott updated the game to include some missing features, he also made it so that the screen alternates between calling Mangle "he" and "she". While this was most likely Scott being himself and wanting to keep the gender unknown, it only caused more problems. The male side of the debate literally '''''exploded''''' into a rage of fits and outbursts, bombarding the female side with insults and proclaiming that their initially negative reaction is what caused it. In other words, they think Mangle ''was'' confirmed male, and that the "she" screen was only added so the female side wouldn't "harass" Scott. Some even claim this as fact, despite it not being confirmed. Either way, the base remains more broken than ever. At this point, it's unlikely the gender will ever be confirmed officially.

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* The Toy animatronics in the sequel are designed to be more colourful, childish, and feminine than their older counterparts, as shown by Toy Bonnie and Mangle, while the classic animatronics (except for Foxy) appear to have been pushed to the side and left in states of disrepair. Fans are divided on whether the new animatronics are as good as the classic ones or not and whether or not they are scary.
** Probably the biggest Base Breakers of the group are Toy Chica and Mangle.
*** First, Toy Chica. She has a more humanoid body and shorts that look like ''panties'' at first glance. Fans find her new "sexualized" look either funny, disgusting, or disturbing and unnerving. (As for the third group, considering this is a horror game, they mean it in a good way.) Similarly, the fact that she takes off her beak and eyes is either horrifying to look at or, as ThisVeryWiki points out, makes her look like either Pikachu or a yellow M&M.
*** And then there's Mangle. Mangle itself isn't really the LoveItOrHateIt kind of base breaker. Moreso, its gender is one. Some believe it is female as it has feminine traits (Pink and white coloring, eyelashes) and appears on the Ladies' Night preset. The ones who believe it is male say that it might've been added just to make Ladies' Night harder, and that it's based off of the male Foxy. Others TakeAThirdOption and say its gender ''is'' "yes", thanks to a MathematiciansAnswer given by Scott.
*** The Mangle base was probably broken even further with the release of ''FNAF World.'' On the day the game came out, the loading screens exclusively referred to Mangle as male. However, the ''very'' next day, when Scott updated the game to include some missing features, he also made it so that the screen alternates between calling Mangle "he" and "she". While this was most likely Scott being himself and wanting to keep the gender unknown, it only caused more problems. The male side of the debate literally '''''exploded''''' into a rage of fits and outbursts, bombarding the female side with insults and proclaiming that their initially negative reaction is what caused it. In other words, they think Mangle ''was'' confirmed male, and that the "she" screen was only added so the female side wouldn't "harass" Scott. Some even claim this as fact, despite it not being confirmed. Either way, the base remains more broken than ever. At this point, it's unlikely the gender will ever be confirmed officially.

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* The Toy animatronics in the sequel are designed to be more colourful, childish, and feminine than their older counterparts, as shown by Toy Bonnie and Mangle, while the classic animatronics (except for Foxy) appear to have been pushed to the side and left in states of disrepair. Fans are divided on whether the new animatronics are as good as the classic ones or not and whether or not they are scary.
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scary. Probably the biggest Base Breakers of the group are Toy Chica and Mangle.
*** ** First, Toy Chica. She has a more humanoid body and shorts that look like ''panties'' at first glance. Fans find her new "sexualized" look either funny, disgusting, or disturbing and unnerving. (As for the third group, considering this is a horror game, they mean it in a good way.) Similarly, the fact that she takes off her beak and eyes is either horrifying to look at or, as ThisVeryWiki points out, makes her look like either Pikachu or a yellow M&M.
*** ** And then there's Mangle. Mangle itself isn't really the LoveItOrHateIt kind of base breaker. Moreso, its gender is one. Some believe it is female as it has feminine traits (Pink and white coloring, eyelashes) and appears on the Ladies' Night preset. The ones who believe it is male say that it might've been added just to make Ladies' Night harder, and that it's based off of the male Foxy. Others TakeAThirdOption and say its gender ''is'' "yes", thanks to a MathematiciansAnswer given by Scott.
*** ** The Mangle base was probably broken even further with the release of ''FNAF World.'' On the day the game came out, the loading screens exclusively referred to Mangle as male. However, the ''very'' next day, when Scott updated the game to include some missing features, he also made it so that the screen alternates between calling Mangle "he" and "she". While this was most likely Scott being himself and wanting to keep the gender unknown, it only caused more problems. The male side of the debate literally '''''exploded''''' into a rage of fits and outbursts, bombarding the female side with insults and proclaiming that their initially negative reaction is what caused it. In other words, they think Mangle ''was'' confirmed male, and that the "she" screen was only added so the female side wouldn't "harass" Scott. Some even claim this as fact, despite it not being confirmed. Either way, the base remains more broken than ever. At this point, it's unlikely the gender will ever be confirmed officially.
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* A couple of users were disappointed with Nightmare Balloon Boy's presentation, some of them insulting Scott via email or Reddit, while others were fine with the result.

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*** Then again, eĢ¶nĢ¶rĢ¶aĢ¶gĢ¶eĢ¶mĢ¶eĢ¶nĢ¶tĢ¶ Ģ¶cĢ¶hĢ¶iĢ¶lĢ¶d Balloon Boy is this to some parts of the fandom. Some think he is annoying, others even think he's the best character.

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*** Then again, eĢ¶nĢ¶rĢ¶aĢ¶gĢ¶eĢ¶mĢ¶eĢ¶nĢ¶tĢ¶ Ģ¶cĢ¶hĢ¶iĢ¶lĢ¶d Balloon Boy is this to some parts of the fandom. Some think he is annoying, others even think he's the best character.
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**** The Mangle base was probably broken even further with the release of ''FNAF World.'' On the day the game came out, the loading screens exclusively referred to Mangle as male. However, the ''very'' next day, when Scott updated the game to include some missing features, he also made it so that the screen alternates between calling Mangle "he" and "she". While this was most likely Scott being himself and wanting to keep the gender unknown, it only caused more problems. The male side of the debate literally '''''exploded''''' into a rage of fits and outbursts, bombarding the female side with insults and proclaiming that their initially negative reaction is what caused it. In other words, they think Mangle ''was'' confirmed male, and that the "she" screen was only added so the female side wouldn't "harass" Scott. Some even claim this as fact, despite it not being confirmed. Either way, the base remains more broken than ever. At this point, it's unlikely the gender will ever be confirmed officially.
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* The older brother on whether he is a irredeemable jackass or just a dumb kid who made a TragicMistake, so much so there was a brief [[EditWar editing war]] on 4's YMMV page.

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* The older brother on whether he is a irredeemable jackass or just a dumb kid who made a TragicMistake, so much so there was a brief [[EditWar [[Administrivia/EditWar editing war]] on 4's YMMV page.
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* The truckloads of [[RuleThirtyFour porn?]] Whether the [[PlotHole plotholes]] or [[WhatAnIdiot the guard keeps returning]] are valid criticisms or not? Whether the animatronics are [[MaybeMagicMaybeMundane malfunctioning or actually haunted?]] Whether the game is actually scary or not? Pretty much anything can set one person off or another in the right places.

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* The truckloads of [[RuleThirtyFour porn?]] Whether the [[PlotHole plotholes]] {{plothole}}s or [[WhatAnIdiot the guard keeps returning]] are valid criticisms or not? Whether the animatronics are [[MaybeMagicMaybeMundane malfunctioning or actually haunted?]] Whether the game is actually scary or not? Pretty much anything can set one person off or another in the right places.



* The Dupes overrunning the ''VideoGame/GarrysMod'' community on steam, and the hordes and hordes of prepubescent children screaming over animatronics, threatening to ''kill'' anyone who criticises their favourite series, or the massive plague of Dupes filling the Workshop?

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* The Dupes overrunning the ''VideoGame/GarrysMod'' community on steam, Steam, and the hordes and hordes of prepubescent children screaming over animatronics, threatening to ''kill'' anyone who criticises their favourite series, or again the massive plague of Dupes filling the Workshop?



* The idea that this may be the [[GrandFinale final game of the series]] has the fanbase riled up; some people claim that they don't want another game, saying that the main story is over and to leave it on a high note, while others want a deeper explanation of what went on in the backstory (like what happened at Fazbear's Diner), even pointing out the multiple [[SequelHook Sequel Hooks]] that the third game laid out. All of this quickly escalated when various Let's Players who had been in contact with Scott began leaving random and cryptic hints about the series' future such as "it's coming" and after the hat on Scott's website was removed.

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* The idea that this may be the [[GrandFinale final game of the series]] has the fanbase riled up; some people claim that they don't want another game, saying that the main story is over and to leave it on a high note, while others want a deeper explanation of what went on in the backstory (like what happened at Fazbear's Diner), even pointing out the multiple [[SequelHook Sequel Hooks]] {{sequel hook}}s that the third game laid out. All of this quickly escalated when various Let's Players who had been in contact with Scott began leaving random and cryptic hints about the series' future such as "it's coming" and after the hat on Scott's website was removed.



** Shortly after this new spark, [[http://41.media.tumblr.com/eb44f38adb0114df08b636be893fbbb4/tumblr_nuuivyyZEN1u2kzbyo2_r1_1280.jpg Scott answered]] "Is Mangle a boy or a girl" with [[MathematiciansAnswer "Yes"]]. Fans are divided between interpreting this as Scott either [[TrollingCreator trolling the fanbase]], informing us that Mangle does have a gender but not reveal it to keep both parties happy, or that [[ExactlyWhatItSaysOnTheTin Mangle's gender is yes.]]

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** Shortly after this new spark, [[http://41.media.tumblr.com/eb44f38adb0114df08b636be893fbbb4/tumblr_nuuivyyZEN1u2kzbyo2_r1_1280.jpg Scott answered]] "Is Mangle a boy or a girl" with [[MathematiciansAnswer "Yes"]]. Fans are divided between interpreting this as Scott either [[TrollingCreator trolling the fanbase]], informing us that Mangle does have a gender but not reveal it to keep both parties happy, or that [[ExactlyWhatItSaysOnTheTin Mangle's gender is yes.''is'' "yes".]]



*** And then there's Mangle. Mangle itself isn't really the LoveItOrHateIt kind of base breaker. Moreso, its gender is one. Some believe it is female as it has feminine traits (Pink and white coloring, eyelashes) and appears on the Ladies' night preset. The ones who believe it is male say that it might've been added just to make Ladies' Night harder, and that it's based off of the male Foxy. Others TakeAThirdOption and say its gender ''is'' "yes", thanks to a MathematiciansAnswer given by Scott.
** The base isn't as broken on Tumblr for the new animatronics typically receive as much praise/attention/fanart as the old ones...except BB, obviously. But even he's treated more like a ChewToy than a genuine [[TheScrappy Scrappy]].

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*** And then there's Mangle. Mangle itself isn't really the LoveItOrHateIt kind of base breaker. Moreso, its gender is one. Some believe it is female as it has feminine traits (Pink and white coloring, eyelashes) and appears on the Ladies' night Night preset. The ones who believe it is male say that it might've been added just to make Ladies' Night harder, and that it's based off of the male Foxy. Others TakeAThirdOption and say its gender ''is'' "yes", thanks to a MathematiciansAnswer given by Scott.
** The base isn't as broken on Tumblr for the new animatronics typically receive as much praise/attention/fanart as the old ones...except BB, obviously. But even he's treated more like a ChewToy than a genuine [[TheScrappy Scrappy]].{{Scrappy}}.
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** The base isn't as broken on Tumblr for the new animatronics typically receive as much praise/attention/fanart as the old ones. Except Balloon Boy. But even he's treated more like a ChewToy than a genuine [[TheScrappy Scrappy]].

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** The base isn't as broken on Tumblr for the new animatronics typically receive as much praise/attention/fanart as the old ones. Except Balloon Boy.ones...except BB, obviously. But even he's treated more like a ChewToy than a genuine [[TheScrappy Scrappy]].
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** The base isn't as broken on Tumblr for the new animatronics typically receive as much praise/attention/fanart as the old ones. Except [[spoiler:Balloon Boy]]. But even [[spoiler:he's]] treated more like a ChewToy than a genuine [[TheScrappy Scrappy]].
*** Hatred or Like towards [[spoiler:Balloon Boy]] is this to the fandom, whether he is annoying or is the best character.

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** The base isn't as broken on Tumblr for the new animatronics typically receive as much praise/attention/fanart as the old ones. Except [[spoiler:Balloon Boy]]. Balloon Boy. But even [[spoiler:he's]] he's treated more like a ChewToy than a genuine [[TheScrappy Scrappy]].
*** Hatred or Like towards [[spoiler:Balloon Boy]] Then again, eĢ¶nĢ¶rĢ¶aĢ¶gĢ¶eĢ¶mĢ¶eĢ¶nĢ¶tĢ¶ Ģ¶cĢ¶hĢ¶iĢ¶lĢ¶d Balloon Boy is this to some parts of the fandom, whether fandom. Some think he is annoying or is annoying, others even think he's the best character.
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* The Dupes overrunning the ''VideoGame/Garry's Mod'' community on steam, and the hordes and hordes of prepubescent children screaming over animatronics, threatening to ''kill'' anyone who criticises their favourite series, or the massive plague of Dupes filling the Workshop?

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* The visual style. While some like the colorful and flashy style, others have described it as "an assault on the eyes", in the literal sense of it hurting their eyes to play the game for extended periods due to all the flashy colors and the sheer amount of stuff going on at once.
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Broken Base requires two sides, not just ones complaints.


* [[spoiler:After Scott Cawthon posted hints on his website that were interpreted as implying the entire franchise before ''4'' was AllJustADream, the fanbase nearly ''exploded,'' before completely ignoring it in favor of theories that didn't serve as a [[ShockingSwerve slap in the face.]]]]



* The reveal that the Bite of '83/7 was [[spoiler:caused by Fredbear instead of Foxy or Mangle made some fans very unhappy. The whole incident being a cruel prank by the victim's brother, and not the result of one of the animatronics glitching or breaking down only added more fuel to the fire.]]



* A lot of people on the Five Nights Subreddit are expressing disappointment in the Halloween Update, and some even said the FNAF World "leak" was better.
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* Some users don't enjoy the game now that it's officially out, and some do. The lack of an actual storyline, or giving you hints on what to do next also turned some people off and they were going to get refunds on Steam. There is also the crowd who does not care, and likes it for what it is.
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->''"I'm so f**king confused normal mangle is a yes phantom mangle is supposedly a male people are speculating Funtime foxy is female nightmare mangle is still genderless my head hurts"''
-->--'''Golden mangled fox''', ''Five Night at Freddy's Wiki''
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* [[FiveNightsAtFreddysTheSilverEyes The book]] has proven one of the most divisive things to come out of the franchise, which is saying quite a bit. Flame wars over its canon status and the apparent retcons erupted mere hours after it was released.

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* [[FiveNightsAtFreddysTheSilverEyes [[Literature/FiveNightsAtFreddysTheSilverEyes The book]] has proven one of the most divisive things to come out of the franchise, which is saying quite a bit. Flame wars over its canon status and the apparent retcons erupted mere hours after it was released.
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Any mention of Mangle being \"he\" or \"she\" is taboo, better keep it neutral becauseā€¦ reasons.


* The hordes of roleplayers on Steam, Gamejolt and the comments section of every Fnaf video. Are they some of the most annoying members of the fanbase, or being creative?[[note]]Though a ''large'' amount of said roleplayers are... less then quality, often resulting in SoBadItsGood.[[/note]]

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* The hordes of roleplayers on Steam, Gamejolt and the comments section of every Fnaf FNAF video. Are they some of the most annoying members of the fanbase, or being creative?[[note]]Though a ''large'' amount of said roleplayers are... less then quality, often resulting in SoBadItsGood.[[/note]]



* [[FiveNightsAtFreddysTheSilverEyes The book]] has proven one of the most divisive things to come out of the franchise, which is saying quite a bit. Flame war's over it's canon status and the apparent retcons erupted mere hours after it was released.

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* [[FiveNightsAtFreddysTheSilverEyes The book]] has proven one of the most divisive things to come out of the franchise, which is saying quite a bit. Flame war's wars over it's its canon status and the apparent retcons erupted mere hours after it was released.



* [[spoiler: Do the Five Nights take place before or after the bite?]] There is evidence to back both assumptions up.
* A lot of people on the Five Nights subreddit are expressing disappointment in the Halloween Update, and some even said the FNAF World "leak" was better.
* There's some debate over whether the nightmare version of the Puppet is Nightmarionne or Nightmarionnette.

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* [[spoiler: Do [[spoiler:Do the Five Nights take place before or after the bite?]] There is evidence to back both assumptions up.
* A lot of people on the Five Nights subreddit Subreddit are expressing disappointment in the Halloween Update, and some even said the FNAF World "leak" was better.
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* There's some debate over whether the nightmare Nightmare version of the Puppet is Nightmarionne or Nightmarionnette.



*** And then there's Mangle. Mangle itself isn't really the LoveItOrHateIt kind of base breaker. Moreso, its gender is one. Some believe it is female as she has feminine traits (Pink and white coloring, eyelashes) and appears on the Ladies' night preset. The ones who believe it is male say that he might've been added just to make Ladie's night harder, and that he's based off of the male Foxy. Others TakeAThirdOption and say its gender is yes, thanks to a MathematiciansAnswer given by Scott.
** The base isn't as broken on Tumblr for the new animatronics typically receive as much praise/attention/fanart as the old ones. Except [[spoiler:Balloon Boy]]. But even [[spoiler:he's]] treated more like a ChewToy than a genuine [[TheScrappy Scrappy]].

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*** And then there's Mangle. Mangle itself isn't really the LoveItOrHateIt kind of base breaker. Moreso, its gender is one. Some believe it is female as she it has feminine traits (Pink and white coloring, eyelashes) and appears on the Ladies' night preset. The ones who believe it is male say that he it might've been added just to make Ladie's night Ladies' Night harder, and that he's it's based off of the male Foxy. Others TakeAThirdOption and say its gender is yes, ''is'' "yes", thanks to a MathematiciansAnswer given by Scott.
** The base isn't as broken on Tumblr for the new animatronics typically receive as much praise/attention/fanart as the old ones. Except [[spoiler:Balloon Boy]]. But even [[spoiler:he's]] treated more like a ChewToy than a genuine [[TheScrappy Scrappy]].



* The older brother on whether he is a irredeemable jackass or just a dumb kid who made a TragicMistake, so much so there was a brief [[EditWar editing war]] on 4's YMMV page.

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*** And then there's Mangle. Mangle itself isn't really the LoveItOrHateIt kind of base breaker. Moreso, its gender is one. Some believe it is female as she has feminine traits (Pink and white coloring, eyelashes) and appears on the Ladie's night preset. The ones who believe it is male say that he might've been added just to make Ladie's night harder, and that he's based off of the male Foxy. Others TakeAThirdOption and say its gender is yes, thanks to a MathematiciansAnswer given by Scott.

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*** And then there's Mangle. Mangle itself isn't really the LoveItOrHateIt kind of base breaker. Moreso, its gender is one. Some believe it is female as she has feminine traits (Pink and white coloring, eyelashes) and appears on the Ladie's Ladies' night preset. The ones who believe it is male say that he might've been added just to make Ladie's night harder, and that he's based off of the male Foxy. Others TakeAThirdOption and say its gender is yes, thanks to a MathematiciansAnswer given by Scott.

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* [[FiveNightsAtFreddysTheSilverEyes The book]] has proven one of the most divisive things to come out of the franchise, which is saying quite a bit. Flame war's over it's canon status and the apparent retcons erupted mere hours after it was released.



* [[FiveNightsAtFreddysTheSilverEyes The book]] has proven one of the most divisive things to come out of the franchise, which is saying quite a bit. Flame war's over it's canon status and the apparent retcons erupted mere hours after it was released.
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* The older brother on whether he is a irredeemable jackass or just a dumb kid who made a TragicMistake, so much so there was a brief [[EditWar editing war]] on 4's YMMV page.

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* The older brother on whether he is a irredeemable jackass or just a dumb kid who made a TragicMistake, so much so there was a brief [[EditWar editing war]] on 4's YMMV page.page.
* [[FiveNightsAtFreddysTheSilverEyes The book]] has proven one of the most divisive things to come out of the franchise, which is saying quite a bit. Flame war's over it's canon status and the apparent retcons erupted mere hours after it was released.
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* Foxy. Either you like him as a character or hate him for overshadowing the other animatronics.



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* Hatred towards [[spoiler:Balloon Boy]] is this to the fandom, where he deserves it or does not.

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** The base isn't as broken on Tumblr for the new animatronics typically receive as much praise/attention/fanart as the old ones. Except Balloon Boy. But even he's treated more like a ChewToy than a genuine [[TheScrappy Scrappy]].

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** The base isn't as broken on Tumblr for the new animatronics typically receive as much praise/attention/fanart as the old ones. Except Balloon Boy. [[spoiler:Balloon Boy]]. But even he's [[spoiler:he's]] treated more like a ChewToy than a genuine [[TheScrappy Scrappy]]. Scrappy]].
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The ''VideoGame/FiveNightsAtFreddys'' fandom is infamous for many reasons. One of which being that [[BrokenBase nobody can agree on anything.]]
!! ''General''
* The truckloads of [[RuleThirtyFour porn?]] Whether the [[PlotHole plotholes]] or [[WhatAnIdiot the guard keeps returning]] are valid criticisms or not? Whether the animatronics are [[MaybeMagicMaybeMundane malfunctioning or actually haunted?]] Whether the game is actually scary or not? Pretty much anything can set one person off or another in the right places.
* The franchise as a whole. Is it a well-developed series with a creepy, disturbing atmosphere; good, tense horror mechanics which are kept unique from installment to installment; well-designed adversaries; and a surprisingly deep story if you know how to look for the StoryBreadcrumbs? Or is it a tedious, unfrightening, money-grabbing mess that is given its reputation by fanboys of the franchise, those looking to emphasis the 'indieness' of it, and famous Let's Players like LetsPlay/{{Markiplier}}?
* The hordes of roleplayers on Steam, Gamejolt and the comments section of every Fnaf video. Are they some of the most annoying members of the fanbase, or being creative?[[note]]Though a ''large'' amount of said roleplayers are... less then quality, often resulting in SoBadItsGood.[[/note]]
* There is also the announcement of a possible [[TheMovie movie]]. Some are extremely excited for it, some are [[VideoGameMoviesSuck convinced it will flop]], and some are simply indifferent.
* [[spoiler:After Scott Cawthon posted hints on his website that were interpreted as implying the entire franchise before ''4'' was AllJustADream, the fanbase nearly ''exploded,'' before completely ignoring it in favor of theories that didn't serve as a [[ShockingSwerve slap in the face.]]]]
* Even the series' lore gets this. Many people consider the lore to be the main draw of the series, and praise how intricate it is. More cynical observers sometimes say that a lot of the story's depth is people overthinking minor details, and the plot points that invite the most speculation is really people mistaking inconsistencies for complexity.

!! ''VideoGame/FiveNightsAtFreddys''
* Bonnie's [[AmbiguousGender gender]] was unknown for quite some time. While the gender wars weren't quite as astronomical as Mangle's, it was pretty heavy until Scott [[WordOfGod confirmed he was male]] indirectly.

!! ''VideoGame/FiveNightsAtFreddys2''
* TheReveal that [[spoiler:the game could be (according to fans) a prequel]] literally set off fifteen flamewars in five minutes. [[FanonDiscontinuity Some people refuse to believe it]], and others refuse to ''not'' believe it.

!! ''VideoGame/FiveNightsAtFreddys3''
* Even before release there were some divisions over elements of the game, the biggest of which is probably that there was only one animatronic, Springtrap, and the place being a horror attraction instead of a pizzeria. The implication that there might be walking had also led people to fear that the game will lose the [[ControlledHelplessness reason it was so scary in the first place.]] Ultimately however, there was much more to the game than was implied. [[spoiler:The Purple Man returned, the Marionette was still around -- though it, itself, seems to be falling apart]] -- and ''every single one of the old animatronics'' sans Endoskeletons and Bonnie can show up and jump you at any given moment. [[MyFriendsAndZoidberg And BB and Mangle.]]
* The idea that this may be the [[GrandFinale final game of the series]] has the fanbase riled up; some people claim that they don't want another game, saying that the main story is over and to leave it on a high note, while others want a deeper explanation of what went on in the backstory (like what happened at Fazbear's Diner), even pointing out the multiple [[SequelHook Sequel Hooks]] that the third game laid out. All of this quickly escalated when various Let's Players who had been in contact with Scott began leaving random and cryptic hints about the series' future such as "it's coming" and after the hat on Scott's website was removed.

!! ''VideoGame/FiveNightsAtFreddys4''
''4'' seems to break the base more than the other three.
* On the day Scott first teased the game, the FNAF fandom plunged itself into debates about whether or not the series needed a fourth game. Several fans (and non-fans) combined this notion with accusations of the series becoming a shameless CashCowFranchise -- in the bad kind of way. It got so bad that Scott himself had to address this issue himself.
* Fans split on whether the teaser images looked scary or stupid.
* The fact that the game takes place in a house instead of some variation of Freddy's Pizzeria caused a split. One contingent of fans considered it scarier that the threats are in your house instead of a job that you can simply leave, while others thought the change of location felt out of place for the series and that it should stick to an actual Fazbear Entertainment building.
* The reveal that the Bite of '83/7 was [[spoiler:caused by Fredbear instead of Foxy or Mangle made some fans very unhappy. The whole incident being a cruel prank by the victim's brother, and not the result of one of the animatronics glitching or breaking down only added more fuel to the fire.]]
** The reveal has caused further controversy [[spoiler:when a [[http://i3.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/newsfeed/000/996/089/343 certain scene]] hints that the whole incident may be four years prior to '87. Fans now are split whether this is a RedHerring or something else entirely]], to the point where the fights actually got ''very'' toxic on the official subreddit. Even ThisVeryWiki's pages are split over which side is true. Suffice it to say that there's a large amount of clues both supporting and refuting the date. [[RuleOfCautiousEditingJudgement Let's just leave it at that.]]
** [[https://www.reddit.com/r/fivenightsatfreddys/comments/3qwx9o/so_is_87_confirmed_now/ This post]] seems to settle the flames a bit, however.
*** Scott has confirmed that Nightmare BB is, in fact, canon. Check the Character page for FNAF 4 for the link.
* Scott's [[http://steamcommunity.com/games/388090/announcements/detail/125327007944045364 decision]] to [[spoiler:leave the box the way it is]] and have the fanbase put the pieces together tore the base in two. Some accept his decision and respect it, while others ask him to open [[spoiler:the box]] for them anyway. We got a [[spoiler:Nightmarionne]] nonetheless.
* [[spoiler: Do the Five Nights take place before or after the bite?]] There is evidence to back both assumptions up.
* A lot of people on the Five Nights subreddit are expressing disappointment in the Halloween Update, and some even said the FNAF World "leak" was better.
* There's some debate over whether the nightmare version of the Puppet is Nightmarionne or Nightmarionnette.

!! ''VideoGame/FiveNightsAtFreddysWorld''
* As one might have expected, the fandom is divided between those who think the new direction is the wrong way to go and against everything the original series was about and those who are simply excited to have a new game or are actually looking forward to the UnexpectedGameplayChange.
* The [[http://i.imgur.com/cw14g7W.jpg teaser]] showcasing the animatronic's appearances for the game also shows what Mangle looks like before being mangled, re-igniting the gender wars and tearing the fanbase asunder.
** Shortly after this new spark, [[http://41.media.tumblr.com/eb44f38adb0114df08b636be893fbbb4/tumblr_nuuivyyZEN1u2kzbyo2_r1_1280.jpg Scott answered]] "Is Mangle a boy or a girl" with [[MathematiciansAnswer "Yes"]]. Fans are divided between interpreting this as Scott either [[TrollingCreator trolling the fanbase]], informing us that Mangle does have a gender but not reveal it to keep both parties happy, or that [[ExactlyWhatItSaysOnTheTin Mangle's gender is yes.]]
* Likewise, the reveal of pristine Spring Bonnie showing the animatronic with 'feminine' eyelashes has caused quite a few fans to speak out against it, with some of them even going so far as to consider it an UnsettlingGenderReveal (never mind the fact that Toy Bonnie, who also has eyelashes, is confirmed to be male).

!! {{Base Breaker}}s
* The Toy animatronics in the sequel are designed to be more colourful, childish, and feminine than their older counterparts, as shown by Toy Bonnie and Mangle, while the classic animatronics (except for Foxy) appear to have been pushed to the side and left in states of disrepair. Fans are divided on whether the new animatronics are as good as the classic ones or not and whether or not they are scary.
** Probably the biggest Base Breakers of the group are Toy Chica and Mangle.
*** First, Toy Chica. She has a more humanoid body and shorts that look like ''panties'' at first glance. Fans find her new "sexualized" look either funny, disgusting, or disturbing and unnerving. (As for the third group, considering this is a horror game, they mean it in a good way.) Similarly, the fact that she takes off her beak and eyes is either horrifying to look at or, as ThisVeryWiki points out, makes her look like either Pikachu or a yellow M&M.
*** And then there's Mangle. Mangle itself isn't really the LoveItOrHateIt kind of base breaker. Moreso, its gender is one. Some believe it is female as she has feminine traits (Pink and white coloring, eyelashes) and appears on the Ladie's night preset. The ones who believe it is male say that he might've been added just to make Ladie's night harder, and that he's based off of the male Foxy. Others TakeAThirdOption and say its gender is yes, thanks to a MathematiciansAnswer given by Scott.
** The base isn't as broken on Tumblr for the new animatronics typically receive as much praise/attention/fanart as the old ones. Except Balloon Boy. But even he's treated more like a ChewToy than a genuine [[TheScrappy Scrappy]].
* The older brother on whether he is a irredeemable jackass or just a dumb kid who made a TragicMistake, so much so there was a brief [[EditWar editing war]] on 4's YMMV page.

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