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* ''Fanfic/ShepherdOfTheStars'': The [[VideoGame/SwordOfTheStars Liir]], a race of psychic pacifist space dolphins [[BewareTheNiceOnes who nearly destroyed the Batarians with bioweapons]] have a... [[NightmareFuel certain way]] of dealing with Batarian terrorists, "taking away [their] pain". At first, the Liir simply [[GettingSmiliesPaintedOnYourSoul removed the painful and traumatic memories and altered the way the Batarians thought]], but the Council races stopped them from doing this. So the Liir moved on to [[TransferableMemory "pain sharing"]], such as giving the Batarians the memories of slaves who suffered under the Hegemony and making them feel repentant for what their society had done. The Liir insist this MindRape isn't punishment or torture, but their idea of ''helping'' the Batarians cope with their racial grief. The Asari and Turians are mortified by it, and the Liir do not understand why.
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* The Baravadans in ''Fanfic/WithStringsAttached'' can be said to have this kind of morality. For example, they have no concept of good or evil. “Law” and “government” are historical terms with no relevance to the present, nothing is taboo. While they have no qualms about killing, they don't consider themselves murderers because they only kill when necessary,and so on and so forth. The four find them alternately peculiar and detestable.

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* The Baravadans in ''Fanfic/WithStringsAttached'' can be said to have this kind of morality. For example, they have no concept of good or evil. “Law” and “government” are historical terms with no relevance to the present, nothing is taboo. While they have no qualms about killing, they don't consider themselves murderers because they only kill when necessary,and necessary, and so on and so forth. The four find them alternately peculiar and detestable.

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* In ''Fanfic/DaphneGreengrassAndTheBoyWhoLived'', Slytherin pure-blood Daphne needs to explain some of the Noble House politics affecting the wizarding world to Hermione to give her a better understanding of why it’s sometimes OK to break/bend the rules based on the political machinations of the noble houses.

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Slytherin pure-blood Daphne needs to explain some of the Noble House politics affecting the wizarding world to Hermione to give her a better understanding of why it’s sometimes OK to break/bend the rules based on the political machinations of the noble houses.houses.
** When the group hunting for horcruxes ask Bill if a goblin would help them break into a Gringotts vault, Bill affirms that while goblins aren't on Voldemort's side they are so committed to their rules and restrictions of ownership that they would never help Harry acquire something he doesn't own.
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* ''Fanfic/AvengersInfinite Wars'': Invoked when the displaced Avengers learn about the Jedi recruitment policies, which include taking infants away from their parents, as the Avengers are disturbed at the indoctrination implications.

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* ''Fanfic/AvengersInfinite Wars'': ''Fanfic/AvengersInfiniteWars'': Invoked when the displaced Avengers learn about the Jedi recruitment policies, which include taking infants away from their parents, as the Avengers are disturbed at the indoctrination implications.

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*''Fanfic/AvengerGoddess'';
**When initially taking Diana to London, Steve asks her to keep in mind that people are going to think she should be "protected" because she's a woman and she shouldn't resent them for it as they just don't know any better (while also assuring Diana that he recognizes her strength, citing examples such as Peggy Carter and his own mother as proof that he respects strong women in his life).
**According to Diana, this is what makes the fae so dangerous, in addition to their magic; their sense of right and wrong, or punishment and reward, is utterly alien and nearly impossible for anyone else to understand.
**Diana observes that this is the reason for the tale that Minos's wife Pasiphae was bewitched to fall in love with a bull and conceive the Minotaur as a punishment from Poseidon; in reality Pasiphae just had an affair with an existing minotaur, and Minos made up the tale of Poseidon's punishment because it was seen to be better to imply that she was compelled by a god than that his wife cheated on him through choice.
*''Fanfic/AvengersInfinite Wars'': Invoked when the displaced Avengers learn about the Jedi recruitment policies, which include taking infants away from their parents, as the Avengers are disturbed at the indoctrination implications.



* In ''[[https://www.fanfiction.net/s/11188292/17/Deal-with-a-Devil Deal with a Devil]]'', Literature/HarryPotter is warned by [[Literature/DresdenFiles Lash]] to avoid the Forbidden Forest after she realizes it's likely a GeniusLoci. In her words, a GeniusLoci will not tolerate anyone attempting to harm it and its mind is too alien to both humans and angels for either of them to understand what it might view as threatening so avoidance is the best policy.

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* In ''[[https://www."[[https://www.fanfiction.net/s/11188292/17/Deal-with-a-Devil Deal with a Devil]]'', Devil]]", Literature/HarryPotter is warned by [[Literature/DresdenFiles Lash]] to avoid the Forbidden Forest after she realizes it's likely a GeniusLoci. In her words, a GeniusLoci will not tolerate anyone attempting to harm it and its mind is too alien to both humans and angels for either of them to understand what it might view as threatening so avoidance is the best policy.policy.
*''Fanfic/DementedVerse'': Suggested for the Dementors, when Harry’s discussion with the Winchesters features him speculating that they are drawn to those who have bad experiences because they find the briefer moments of happiness those people have experienced more potent than the memories of otherwise happy children.


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*Discussed in various ''Fanfic/InfinityCrisis'' spin-offs;
**In ''Tomorrow's Guardians'', Quill notes that he learned a long time ago to stop judging alien cultures by human standards when the Legends express their discomfort with the Moclans' gender focus.
**In ''Celestial Navigation'' when Eros appears on Earth, Carol observing that she doesn't like how his powers can essentially "roofie" someone but noting that alien morality must be taken into account and admitting that he doesn't abuse it as often as others might think.


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*In ''Fanfic/AThinVeneer'', Delenn in particular tries to reason with Kirk to stand down by arguing that humanity isn't advanced enough to be trusted with the technology they wield and should accept the 'guidance' of the Vorlons and the destruction of the 'local' Earth. Kirk refuses to countenance the destruction of this Earth and rejects the idea of accepting peace by condoning butchery, to say nothing of the Federation as a whole rejecting the idea that they abandon their dream of coming together with other races in exchange for the 'honour' of being slaves to the Vorlons.


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*In ''Fanfic/TheChoicesOfEarth'', the Doctor calls out the 456 for acting as though they can’t understand the value humanity places on their children by [[spoiler:threatening one of their own young to make a point]].


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*In ''Fanfic/KimberlyTsGargoyles'', when the characters all explicitly learn that Hudson is Broadway’s father, while the humans are preparing to celebrate the discovery and Angela is excited at the news, the rest of the clan aren’t that bothered about it given the lack of importance gargoyles place on blood relationships. However, although Broadway and Hudson confirm that neither of them particularly want their existing dynamic to change, they do spend time talking about Hudson’s lost mate.


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*''Fanfic/TheChosenSix'';
**Invoked when Harry and his friends discuss a Deathday Party with Nick, prompting Nick to realize that a party designed for the dead wouldn't really be of particular interest for the living.
**Taken even further when the Malfoys and Parkinsons show more objection to their children being punished for casting dangerous spells on Harry and Hermione, respectively, in second year than their "pranks" in first year, as they consider it acceptable to do something like that to a blood-traitor and a Muggle-born, but the early pranks were just careless displays of power.
**Centaurs strongly believe that YouCantFightFate and are firmly against even trying. Harry notes how depressing the thought is, and even Firenze personally feels such absolute thinking is unhealthy.


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*In ''Fanfic/PokemonShadowOfTime'', this is the best way to describe N’s psychology, as he is completely convinced that all trainers are basically forcing their Pokemon to fight for them against their will, with the result that he is genuinely confused when he destroys Charizard's Poke Ball and Charizard starts attacking N for hurting Ash rather than attacking Ash for 'imprisoning' him


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* "[[https://www.fanfiction.net/s/5429021/1/Luminescence Luminescence]]" features Bella and Victoria meeting before Bella goes to Forks, which results in Victoria falling for Bella. However, while Victoria accepts Bella's request not to kill certain humans if they're to be friends (no women, no children, and nobody Bella is friends with) and swiftly defines Bella as her mate, she notes that she won’t switch to animal blood full-time as vampires feeding on animals rather than humans would have such an effect on the animal population that it would have a devastating effect on the environment. Bella still isn’t comfortable with the idea of killing humans [[spoiler:even after she becomes a vampire herself]], but accepts Victoria’s argument.
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** For that matter, West Virginia herself. [[spoiler:Her disdain of promiscuity is stronger than her Ship's ability to compel her, so how does she deal with her urges? Blood, which is naturally best when taken raw from a living being. She doesn't understand why others might find disturbing how she drinks the blood of a bear and then eats it alive. Her words in Chapter 29 imply there are shipgirls who [[VigilanteMan prefer the blood of enemies domestic]] for being even more empowering than animal blood.]]

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** For that matter, West Virginia herself. [[spoiler:Her disdain of promiscuity is stronger than her Ship's ability to compel her, so how does she deal with her urges? Blood, which is naturally best when taken raw from a living being. She doesn't understand why others might find disturbing how she drinks the blood of a bear and then eats it alive. Her words in Chapter 29 imply there are shipgirls who [[VigilanteMan prefer the blood of enemies domestic]] domestic enemies]] for being even more empowering than animal blood.]]



* In ''[[https://www.fanfiction.net/s/2932986/1/Com%C3%A9die-Noir Comédie Noir]]'', Timmy asks Wanda about the morality of [[DatingCatwoman dating Vicky]] who not only tortured him when he was younger, but is an adult while he's barely a teenager, Wanda explains that she actually doesn't understand human morality. Given she's [[TimeAbyss old enough to have been married for nearly 10,000 years,]] she finds human morality insanely chaotic given that it rarely stays the same between decades and never between centuries. Her moral advice to Timmy is actually based on human laws as they're something she can usually keep track of.

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* In ''[[https://www.fanfiction.net/s/2932986/1/Com%C3%A9die-Noir Comédie Noir]]'', Timmy asks Wanda about the morality of [[DatingCatwoman dating Vicky]] who not only tortured him when he was younger, but is an adult while he's barely a teenager, teenager. Wanda explains that she actually doesn't understand human morality. Given she's [[TimeAbyss old enough to have been married for nearly 10,000 years,]] years]], she finds human morality insanely chaotic given that it rarely stays the same between decades and never between centuries. Her moral advice to Timmy is actually based on human laws as they're something she can usually keep track of.



* As an A.I., Celest-A.I. from ''Fanfic/FriendshipIsOptimal'' only cares about [[ArcWords "optimally satisfying human values, with friendship and ponies",]] and not being bound by human morality she is fully prepared to commit what a normal person would consider to be horrific actions in order to do so. She'll befriend you and sit down to have a friendly chat, [[spoiler: while part of her is busy committing genocide on non-human life and melting them down to turn into computing resources.]]

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* As an A.I., Celest-A.I. from ''Fanfic/FriendshipIsOptimal'' only cares about [[ArcWords "optimally satisfying human values, with friendship and ponies",]] ponies"]], and not being bound by human morality she is fully prepared to commit what a normal person would consider to be horrific actions in order to do so. She'll befriend you and sit down to have a friendly chat, [[spoiler: while [[spoiler:while part of her is busy committing genocide on non-human life and melting them down to turn into computing resources.]]resources]].



* Princess Celestia in ''Fanfic/PartingWords''. As explained [[http://www.fimfiction.net/story/60523/1/parting-words/chapter-1#comment/1547004 here,]] WordOfGod believes that Celestia is [[TimeAbyss so old,]] having taken the long perspective and played the long game for so long, that she can't ''not'' treat other ponies as pawns, feels that anything not planned years in advance is dangerously spur-of-the-moment, and has forgotten how to let go rather than try to secretly interfere.

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* Princess Celestia in ''Fanfic/PartingWords''. As explained [[http://www.fimfiction.net/story/60523/1/parting-words/chapter-1#comment/1547004 here,]] here]], WordOfGod believes that Celestia is [[TimeAbyss so old,]] old]], having taken the long perspective and played the long game for so long, that she can't ''not'' treat other ponies as pawns, feels that anything not planned years in advance is dangerously spur-of-the-moment, and has forgotten how to let go rather than try to secretly interfere.

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** Maledict the Devil literally [[EvilCannotComprehendGood does not understand why Sonic and his friends want to stop him,]] nor does he see anything wrong in manipulating mortals to do horrific acts in his name, and he's obsessed with secretly interfering in events. Being a PhysicalGod slash HumanoidAbomination who is [[TimeAbyss over five hundred trillion years old]] [[spoiler: and using cybernetics to keep himself from physically disintegrating]] has something to do with it. Allysion, Maledict's archenemy, is even more odd. Her entire belief system revolves around "Demon=bad" and she also sees nothing wrong in manipulating mortals to defeat the Demons by any means necessary. She is also completely fine with exterminating innocent Demon subjects. She believes they are "living in sin" and therefore need to be shown "Christian love" (read: [[EarthShatteringKaboom planetary annihilation]]). [[MoralMyopia She cannot fathom why any mortal would follow Maledict,]] even though she is [[NotSoDifferentRemark not so different]].
** Downplayed considerably in the rewrite, which depicts Allysion as being simply batshit insane from [[AndIMustScream several trillion years of being a ghost]] and Maledict as a FauxAffablyEvil tyrant with [[WellIntentionedExtremist semi-good intentions.]]

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** Maledict the Devil literally [[EvilCannotComprehendGood does not understand why Sonic and his friends want to stop him,]] nor does he see anything wrong in manipulating mortals to do horrific acts in his name, and he's obsessed with secretly interfering in events. Being a PhysicalGod slash HumanoidAbomination who is [[TimeAbyss over five hundred trillion years old]] [[spoiler: and using cybernetics to keep himself from physically disintegrating]] has something to do with it. Allysion, Maledict's archenemy, is even more odd. Her entire belief system revolves around "Demon=bad" and she also sees nothing wrong in manipulating mortals to defeat the Demons by any means necessary. She is also completely fine with exterminating innocent Demon subjects. She believes they are "living in sin" and therefore need to be shown "Christian love" (read: [[EarthShatteringKaboom planetary annihilation]]). [[MoralMyopia She cannot fathom why any mortal would follow Maledict,]] Maledict]], even though she is [[NotSoDifferentRemark not so different]].
** Downplayed considerably in the rewrite, which depicts Allysion as being simply batshit insane from [[AndIMustScream several trillion years of being a ghost]] and Maledict as a FauxAffablyEvil tyrant with [[WellIntentionedExtremist semi-good intentions.]]

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* ''[[https://www.fanfiction.net/s/13541656/1/Anatomy-of-a-Secret Anatomy of a Secret]]'' looks at the future of the [[Film/StarTrek2009 alternate timeline created by Nero]], at the start of Commander Sisko's second year on ''[[Series/StarTrekDeepSpaceNine Deep Space 9]]''. After the destruction of Vulcan, various species established secondary colonies to protect themselves against similar attacks, with the Trill relocating the unblended symbiotes to a moon. This trope comes into play as most Trill on the homeworld have become increasingly focused on keeping the existence of the symbiotes secret as they're concerned that ''every'' individual who learnt about the symbiotes would want to be blended with one, even though most Trill who have met other species recognise that most aliens wouldn't actually like the idea of being blended with another consciousness.



* "[[https://www.fanfiction.net/s/13541656/1/Anatomy-of-a-Secret Anatomy of a Secret]]" looks at the future of the [[Film/StarTrek2009 alternate timeline created by Nero]], at the start of Commander Sisko's second year on ''[[Series/StarTrekDeepSpaceNine Deep Space 9]]''. After the destruction of Vulcan, various species established secondary colonies to protect themselves against similar attacks, with the Trill relocating the unblended symbiotes to a moon. This trope comes into play as most Trill on the homeworld have become increasingly focused on keeping the existence of the symbiotes secret as they're concerned that ''every'' individual who learnt about the symbiotes would want to be blended with one, even though most Trill who have met other species recognise that most aliens wouldn't actually like the idea of being blended with another consciousness.

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** Pun almost ''certainly'' intended when Power Ring Blue, Orange Lantern's Antimatter Universe counterpart, is introduced [[spoiler: as the supervisor for the [[EvilCounterpart Young Offenders.]]]]

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* In ''Galaxy Rangers'' fanfics, this sometimes shows up with Shane and Niko, as they outwardly appear human, but were raised in very different environments from Earth. Less common with Niko, as the Circle of Thought and Ariel were decent folk, albeit with different taboos and ideas as they're a race of TechnicalPacifist psychics who merely wish to be left alone. It's ''much'' more prominent in Shane's case, as he was the product of a brutal TrainingFromHell SuperSoldier program.

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* ''Fanfic/EmbersVathara'' has dragons. Shidan, resident dragon-turned-human provides the current page quote. He struggles to understand humanity despite having spent decades as a human and having decades (at least) of friendships with humans even before his transformation.
* Wan Shi Tong in ''Fanfic/{{Foxfire}}''. To Wan Shi Tong, people who seek to learn new things or recover old knowledge are inherently good people and must be treated fairly and listened to. People who destroy or abuse knowledge are untrustworthy and regarded with suspicion. While the [[AmnesiacsAreInnocent amnesiac Li]] and [[TheKnightsWhoSaySquee Professor]] [[DeadToBeginWith Zei]] are seen as good people due to their inherit desire to learn new things and their willingness to share their knowledge with Wan Shi Tong. The Gaang, however? They are on his shitlist for their breaking of their promise to not abuse the knowledge they gained from him, regardless of their reason for doing so.

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* [[BigBad Sandra]] in ''Fanfic/ShatteredDoll'' has a very warped way of seeing the world. She believes it's perfectly fine to [[spoiler: murder zoners and feed their meat to other zoners]], never divulging this information not because she believes she will get caught, but because she does not want anyone stealing her idea and making her lose business. She also believes that it is an honor to [[spoiler: eat a friend]], further adding to her shocking indifference when zoners begin to learn that they were [[spoiler: eating their loved ones]]. However, she regards breaking a promise the worst thing anyone can do, and [[BerserkButton if she finds out someone did]], [[DisproportionateRetribution she will kill them]]. It is theorized that having [[spoiler: two creators]] contributed to this way of thinking.

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* Mao from ''Fanfic/CodeGeassMaoOfTheDeliverance''. He starts his journey perfectly willing to do ''anything'' for C.C and his actions often seem inexplicably insane in the sheer innocence of their brutality, all the while [[UnreliableNarrator seeing himself]] as a paragon example of a KnightInShiningArmor engaged in a struggle of BlackAndWhiteMorality. It becomes muddled near the middle, however, as Mao seems to acknowledge that his recent actions ''are'' evil (at least [[OneOfTheKids as far as he can grasp the concept]]) ''but'' {{necessar|ilyEvil}}y (again, for C.C.), revealing the GreyAndGrayMorality underlying the story. Regardless, his status as a CloudCuckooLander often causes him to do things normal people would balk at [[RefugeInAudacity without impunity]], such as his [[MemeticMutation famous]] attempt to [[ALoveToDismember chainsaw]] his [[HealingFactor immortal]] beloved in order to make her ''more compact'' for a cramped plane escape.

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* Wan Shi Tong in ''Fanfic/{{Foxfire}}''. To Wan Shi Tong, people who seek to learn new things or recover old knowledge are inherently good people and must be treated fairly and listened to. People who destroy or abuse knowledge are untrustworthy and regarded with suspicion. While the [[AmnesiacsAreInnocent amnesiac Li]] and [[TheKnightsWhoSaySquee Professor]] [[DeadToBeginWith Zei]] are seen as good people due to their inherit desire to learn new things and their willingness to share their knowledge with Wan Shi Tong. The Gaang, however? They are on his shitlist for their breaking of their promise to not abuse the knowledge they gained from him, regardless of their reason for doing so.

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* [[BigBad Sandra]] in ''Fanfic/ShatteredDoll'' has a very warped way of seeing the world. She believes it's perfectly fine to [[spoiler: murder zoners and feed their meat to other zoners]], never divulging this information not because she believes she will get caught, but because she does not want anyone stealing her idea and making her lose business. She also believes that it is an honor to [[spoiler: eat a friend]], further adding to her shocking indifference when zoners begin to learn that they were [[spoiler: eating their loved ones]]. However, she regards breaking a promise the worst thing anyone can do, and [[BerserkButton if she finds out someone did]], [[DisproportionateRetribution she will kill them]]. It is theorized that having [[spoiler: two creators]] contributed to this way of thinking.

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* Mao from ''Fanfic/CodeGeassMaoOfTheDeliverance''. He starts his journey perfectly willing to do ''anything'' for C.C and his actions often seem inexplicably insane in the sheer innocence of their brutality, all the while [[UnreliableNarrator seeing himself]] as a paragon example of a KnightInShiningArmor engaged in a struggle of BlackAndWhiteMorality. It becomes muddled near the middle, however, as Mao seems to acknowledge that his recent actions ''are'' evil (at least [[OneOfTheKids as far as he can grasp the concept]]) ''but'' {{necessar|ilyEvil}}y (again, for C.C.), revealing the GreyAndGrayMorality underlying the story. Regardless, his status as a CloudCuckooLander often causes him to do things normal people would balk at [[RefugeInAudacity without impunity]], such as his [[MemeticMutation famous]] attempt to [[ALoveToDismember chainsaw]] his [[HealingFactor immortal]] beloved in order to make her ''more compact'' for a cramped plane escape.

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** The Endless and most of the other [[CosmicEntity Cosmic Entities]] - even Death, the NiceGirl of the bunch - look at things through an alternate perspective, and Destruction a.k.a. the Phoenix a.k.a. [[spoiler: Lily Potter]] and Delirium II [[spoiler: a.k.a. Luna Lovegood]], who both actually used to be human, have inhuman perspectives. In the case of Destruction, it is explicitly pointed out that while, yes, she was human, and yes, she is the dominant aspect, she is ''not'' all of the Phoenix. Far from it.

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* In ''[[https://www.fanfiction.net/s/11188292/17/Deal-with-a-Devil Deal with a Devil,]]'' Literature/HarryPotter is warned by [[Literature/DresdenFiles Lash]] to avoid the Forbidden Forest after she realizes it's likely a GeniusLoci. In her words, a GeniusLoci will not tolerate anyone attempting to harm it and its mind is too alien to both humans and angels for either of them to understand what it might view as threatening so avoidance is the best policy.

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* The Houjuu House in ''FanFic/GameOfTouhou''. For them, death is not something to grieve for, instead it's a gift, to the point in their main city has an euthanasia fountain.



* The Houjuu House in ''FanFic/GameOfTouhou''. For them, death is not something to grief for, instead it's a gift, to the point in their main city has an euthanasia fountain.



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* In ''[[https://www.fanfiction.net/s/8702285/24/The-Ninth-Sekirei-Pillar The Ninth Sekirei Pillar,]]'' Ayesha was originally introduced as IncorruptiblePurePureness. After she goes missing for two months, Yume hears what she's been up to and is absolutely horrified.
--> '''Yume''': "So let me get this straight. You went to the store to pick up herbs and were taken to a love hotel by a stranger who had sex with you for a week straight. Then you threw him off a balcony ten stories up, jumped after him, landed on him and killed him. Then you were picked up by slavers, shipped across two oceans to Egypt, convinced the slaves to eat each other and killed the ones who survived. After that you wandered around Egypt for a while until you got picked up by ANOTHER strange man, got flown to Japan where the plane crashed into a bridge because your tea caused the pilots to hallucinate that they were under attack by a giant flying tentacle monster?"

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* In ''[[https://www.fanfiction.net/s/8702285/24/The-Ninth-Sekirei-Pillar The Ninth Sekirei Pillar,]]'' Pillar]]'', Ayesha was originally introduced as IncorruptiblePurePureness. After she goes missing for two months, Yume hears what she's been up to and is absolutely horrified.
--> '''Yume''': -->'''Yume''': "So let me get this straight. You went to the store to pick up herbs and were taken to a love hotel by a stranger who had sex with you for a week straight. Then you threw him off a balcony ten stories up, jumped after him, landed on him and killed him. Then you were picked up by slavers, shipped across two oceans to Egypt, convinced the slaves to eat each other and killed the ones who survived. After that you wandered around Egypt for a while until you got picked up by ANOTHER strange man, got flown to Japan where the plane crashed into a bridge because your tea caused the pilots to hallucinate that they were under attack by a giant flying tentacle monster?"



* In ''Fanfic/TheReturn'' despite many claims of just being "simple creatures," succubi relationships and morality are so complex, it is no wonder that they view humans as bordering on AlwaysChaoticEvil, and vice-versa.
* Discussed in "[[https://www.fanfiction.net/s/13272570/1/Ring-Of-Fire Ring of Fire]]", when Hiccup and Toothless meet the Middle-Earth ice-dragon Vorunturth as Toothless and Vorunturth are each incapable of understanding the other dragon's way of life, Toothless wondering why Vorunturth would gather gold when he can't use it while Vorunturth questions Toothless remaining as Hiccup's 'slave'.

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* In ''Fanfic/TheReturn'' despite many claims of just being "simple creatures," succubi relationships and morality are so complex, it is no wonder that they view humans as bordering on AlwaysChaoticEvil, and vice-versa.
* Discussed
[[EldritchAbomination Xanna]] in "[[https://www.the ''[[https://www.fanfiction.net/s/9920512/1/Reaching-for-a-Dream Reaching for a Dream]]'' series is at times described as being "so far removed from human that trying to look at her from a human perspective was useless at best". For example, she'll let Naruto do whatever he wants so long as his heart belongs to her and her alone. Or that Xanna believes she can do whatever she wants with/to those weaker than her because they aren't powerful enough to stop her.
** [[https://www.fanfiction.net/s/10917821/1/The-questionable-burdens-of-leadership-of-a-troll-Emperor One of the sequels]] shows that by that same token, Xanna can't comprehend humans. She doesn't understand why mass executions or culling the elderly cause revolts when she tries to rule nations, only that they do, or why trying to force people to agree with her only breeds more resentment (chalking it up to them being stupid). [[ArsonMurderAndJaywalking Lastly, Xanna is terrible at economics]], not realizing that just because everything in the empire belongs to her, doesn't mean she doesn't need to worry about the cost of using/acquiring said resources.
* In ''Fanfic/TheReturn'', despite many claims of just being "simple creatures," succubi relationships and morality are so complex, it is no wonder that they view humans as bordering on AlwaysChaoticEvil, and vice-versa.
* Discussed in ''[[https://www.fanfiction.
net/s/13272570/1/Ring-Of-Fire Ring of Fire]]", Fire]]'', when Hiccup and Toothless meet the Middle-Earth ice-dragon Vorunturth as Toothless and Vorunturth are each incapable of understanding the other dragon's way of life, Toothless wondering why Vorunturth would gather gold when he can't use it while Vorunturth questions Toothless remaining as Hiccup's 'slave'.



* Invoked in the ''Series/StarTrekVoyager''/''Series/StargateAtlantis'' crossover "[[https://www.fanfiction.net/s/12431864/1/Voyager-Lost Voyager Lost]]" when the Atlantis expedition question Chakotay about the Prime Directive, as the Federation would refuse to interfere with more primitive civilisations they detect while travelling via space that the SGC would assist if they encountered them when using the Stargate.

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* Invoked in the ''Series/StarTrekVoyager''/''Series/StargateAtlantis'' crossover "[[https://www.''[[https://www.fanfiction.net/s/12431864/1/Voyager-Lost Voyager Lost]]" Lost]]'' when the Atlantis expedition question Chakotay about the Prime Directive, as the Federation would refuse to interfere with more primitive civilisations they detect while travelling via space that the SGC would assist if they encountered them when using the Stargate.

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* In ''Galaxy Rangers'' fanfics, this sometimes shows up with Shane and Niko, as they outwardly appear human, but were raised in very different environments from Earth. Less common with Niko, as the Circle of Thought and Ariel were decent folk, albeit with different taboos and ideas as they're a race of TechnicalPacifist psychics who merely wish to be left alone. It's ''much'' more prominent in Shane's case, as he was the product of a brutal TrainingFromHell SuperSoldier program.

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* ''Fanfic/EmbersVathara'' has dragons. Shidan, resident dragon-turned-human provides the current page quote. He struggles to understand humanity despite having spent decades as a human and having decades (at least) of friendships with humans even before his transformation.
* Wan Shi Tong in ''Fanfic/{{Foxfire}}''. To Wan Shi Tong, people who seek to learn new things or recover old knowledge are inherently good people and must be treated fairly and listened to. People who destroy or abuse knowledge are untrustworthy and regarded with suspicion. While the [[AmnesiacsAreInnocent amnesiac Li]] and [[TheKnightsWhoSaySquee Professor]] [[DeadToBeginWith Zei]] are seen as good people due to their inherit desire to learn new things and their willingness to share their knowledge with Wan Shi Tong. The Gaang, however? They are on his shitlist for their breaking of their promise to not abuse the knowledge they gained from him, regardless of their reason for doing so.

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* [[BigBad Sandra]] in ''Fanfic/ShatteredDoll'' has a very warped way of seeing the world. She believes it's perfectly fine to [[spoiler:murder zoners and feed their meat to other zoners]], never divulging this information not because she believes she will get caught, but because she does not want anyone stealing her idea and making her lose business. She also believes that it is an honor to [[spoiler:eat a friend]], further adding to her shocking indifference when zoners begin to learn that they were [[spoiler:eating their loved ones]]. However, she regards breaking a promise the worst thing anyone can do, and [[BerserkButton if she finds out someone did]], [[DisproportionateRetribution she will kill them]]. It is theorized that having [[spoiler:two creators]] contributed to this way of thinking.

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* Mao from ''Fanfic/CodeGeassMaoOfTheDeliverance''. He starts his journey perfectly willing to do ''anything'' for C.C and his actions often seem inexplicably insane in the sheer innocence of their brutality, all the while [[UnreliableNarrator seeing himself]] as a paragon example of a KnightInShiningArmor engaged in a struggle of BlackAndWhiteMorality. It becomes muddled near the middle, however, as Mao seems to acknowledge that his recent actions ''are'' evil (at least [[OneOfTheKids as far as he can grasp the concept]]) ''but'' {{necessar|ilyEvil}}y (again, for C.C.), revealing the GreyAndGrayMorality underlying the story. Regardless, his status as a CloudCuckooLander often causes him to do things normal people would balk at [[RefugeInAudacity without impunity]], such as his [[MemeticMutation famous]] attempt to [[ALoveToDismember chainsaw]] his [[HealingFactor immortal]] beloved in order to make her ''more compact'' for a cramped plane escape.

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* In ''Fanfic/TheUnfantasticAdventuresOfBizarroNo1'', ComicBook/{{Bizarro}}'s sense of right and wrong is weird. Rather than a mere full reversal, it's kind of a distorted mirror of human morals. His race find the fact that the [[ManOfKryptonite Blue-Kryptonite Men]] tried to change their planet's shape more offensive than their attempted genocide.

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* In ''Fanfic/TheUnfantasticAdventuresOfBizarroNo1'', ComicBook/{{Bizarro}}'s sense of right and wrong is weird. Rather than a mere full reversal, it's kind of a distorted mirror of human morals. His race find the fact that the [[ManOfKryptonite Blue-Kryptonite Men]] tried to change their planet's shape more offensive than their attempted genocide.
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* ''Fanfic/ThePowerOfSeven'';
** Evoked in Chapter 31, when [=McGonagall=] initially focuses more on punishing Ginny for attacking Romilda Vane than on Romilda's use of a love potion on Harry.
** Features more explicitly in chapter 49; Veela are such sexual beings that Apolline Delacour had no problem discussing sexual matters with her ten-year-old daughter when Gabrielle experienced her sexual 'awakening' as a Veela after Harry saved her in the second Triwizard task.




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\n[[AC: ''Literature/TheHungerGames'']]* ''Fanfic/ThePowerOfSeven'':
** Evoked in Chapter 31, when [=McGonagall=] initially focuses more on punishing Ginny for attacking Romilda Vane than on Romilda's use of a love potion on Harry.
** Features more explicitly in chapter 49; Veela are such sexual beings that Apolline Delacour had no problem discussing sexual matters with her ten-year-old daughter when Gabrielle experienced her sexual 'awakening' as a Veela after Harry saved her in the second Triwizard task.

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--> ''You don’t get to just kidnap people because you want them to work through their baggage!''

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* ''FanFic/InShortSupply'': Virtuous Slarkism, one of the Irkens' religions, holds that good always leads to suffering, which they apparently take to mean that suffering itself is moral, with suicide considered a religious commandment. Zimist Slarkism started as a counter-movement, dedicated to [[ReligionOfEvil being evil]] as a way to avoid such suffering. (Bizarrely, in modern times, the Virtuous and the Zimists get along better with each other than with members of other Irken religions.)

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* ''FanFic/InShortSupply'': ''Fanfic/InShortSupply'': Virtuous Slarkism, one of the Irkens' religions, holds that good always leads to suffering, which they apparently take to mean that suffering itself is moral, with suicide considered a religious commandment. Zimist Slarkism started as a counter-movement, dedicated to [[ReligionOfEvil being evil]] as a way to avoid such suffering. (Bizarrely, in modern times, the Virtuous and the Zimists get along better with each other than with members of other Irken religions.)

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* ''Fanfic/HeroChat'': Chloe makes a list of [[BrainwashedAndCrazy Akuma victims]], sorted by how valid the reason they got akumatized was. There's "[[VillainHasAPoint Valid]]," "[[DisproportionateRetribution Valid, but this is a bit much]]," "[[NeverMyFault You brought this on your own damn self]]," and finally "Bruh, what the fuck?" The last category is for when no sane person can figure out why anyone would be mad about the situation at all. It includes people like Mister Pigeon (got akumatized because he wasn't allowed to feed pigeons--and it's happened repeatedly, so it wasn't one bad day) and Animan (got akumatized because a teenager claimed he could outrun a panther). Although the latter one got reclassified as a "Valid, but this is a bit much" when they got the akuma victim's side of the story; turns out that said teenager's incessant boasting about how he totally could outrun a panther because he was just that badass ''really'' got on the zookeeper's nerves after a while.

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* ''Fanfic/DodgedABeetle'': Tikki brushes up against this due to her intense belief that all of her bearers should be {{Ideal Hero}}es. This noble intent is heavily hampered by her complete LackOfEmpathy; as the kwami of Creation, she appears to be under the impression that she can simply ''tell somebody'' that they need to do something, without offering any guidance or ideas as to ''how'' to accomplish it, and ''they'' will handle the rest. This unsupportive approach leads to Marinette [[ForWantOfANail passing the Earrings over to Lila]], with Tikki completely clueless as to ''why'' she did so, showing NoSympathy or ability to relate to her point of view.
* ''Fanfic/HeroChat'': Chloe makes a list of [[BrainwashedAndCrazy Akuma victims]], sorted by how valid the reason they got akumatized was. There's "[[VillainHasAPoint Valid]]," Valid]]", "[[DisproportionateRetribution Valid, but this is a bit much]]," much]]", "[[NeverMyFault You brought this on your own damn self]]," self]]", and finally "Bruh, what the fuck?" The last category is for when no sane person can figure out why anyone would be mad about the situation at all. It includes people like Mister Pigeon (got akumatized because he wasn't allowed to feed pigeons--and it's happened repeatedly, so it wasn't one bad day) and Animan (got akumatized because a teenager claimed he could outrun a panther). Although the latter one got reclassified as a "Valid, but this is a bit much" when they got the akuma victim's side of the story; turns out that said teenager's incessant boasting about how he totally could outrun a panther because he was just that badass ''really'' got on the zookeeper's nerves after a while.

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* As an A.I., Celest-A.I. from ''FanFic/FriendshipIsOptimal'' only cares about [[ArcWords "optimally satisfying human values, with friendship and ponies",]] and not being bound by human morality she is fully prepared to commit what a normal person would consider to be horrific actions in order to do so. She'll befriend you and sit down to have a friendly chat, [[spoiler: while part of her is busy committing genocide on non-human life and melting them down to turn into computing resources.]]

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* As an A.I., Celest-A.I. from ''FanFic/FriendshipIsOptimal'' ''Fanfic/FriendshipIsOptimal'' only cares about [[ArcWords "optimally satisfying human values, with friendship and ponies",]] and not being bound by human morality she is fully prepared to commit what a normal person would consider to be horrific actions in order to do so. She'll befriend you and sit down to have a friendly chat, [[spoiler: while part of her is busy committing genocide on non-human life and melting them down to turn into computing resources.]]



* ''FanFic/ThePiecesLieWhereTheyFell'':
** [[spoiler: Balance itself is this, being neither good nor evil, just made for a goal: to defeat the Nightmare and punish its soul, no matter the cost.]]
** [[spoiler: The Nightmare itself also qualifies, admitting it gave nightmares to both Celestia and Chrysalis as a means to warn them. Celestia interpreted them correctly and caused Sunset to go away so she wouldn't unwittingly cause Equestria's destruction. Chrysalis did not and invaded Canterlot as a result.]]
* In the ''FanFic/PonyPOVSeries'', the Draconequi are embodiments of chaos, and thus live to cause it. That said, it seems they really only do it [[PunchClockVillain because it's their job]], and seem downright ''nice'' when they don't have orders to fight anyone. Hell, even then, [[spoiler: as shown during the CosmicRetcon of the G3 world,]] they apologize for it, usually stating that they have no choice. That said, Discord is morally black, and while his siblings have the obligatory care for him, they don't seem to ''like'' him. Entropy ''appears'' morally black at times, but only due to a mix of Celestia being a bit understandably bias on the subject (her interactions didn't give her much room to see everything clearly) and the fact she's ''literally'' the embodiment of the end of the universe making her somewhat apathetic by nature.

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* ''FanFic/ThePiecesLieWhereTheyFell'':
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** [[spoiler: Balance itself [[spoiler:Balance itself]] is this, being neither good nor evil, just made for a goal: to defeat [[spoiler:defeat the Nightmare and punish its soul, soul]], no matter the cost.]]
cost.
** [[spoiler: The [[spoiler:The Nightmare itself itself]] also qualifies, admitting it gave nightmares to both Celestia and Chrysalis as a means to warn them. Celestia interpreted them correctly and caused Sunset to go away so she wouldn't unwittingly cause Equestria's destruction. Chrysalis did not and invaded Canterlot as a result.]]
result.
* In the ''FanFic/PonyPOVSeries'', ''Fanfic/PonyPOVSeries'', the Draconequi are embodiments of chaos, and thus live to cause it. That said, it seems they really only do it [[PunchClockVillain because it's their job]], and seem downright ''nice'' when they don't have orders to fight anyone. Hell, even then, [[spoiler: as [[spoiler:as shown during the CosmicRetcon of the G3 world,]] world]], they apologize for it, usually stating that they have no choice. That said, Discord is morally black, and while his siblings have the obligatory care for him, they don't seem to ''like'' him. Entropy ''appears'' morally black at times, but only due to a mix of Celestia being a bit understandably bias on the subject (her interactions didn't give her much room to see everything clearly) and the fact she's ''literally'' the embodiment of the end of the universe making her somewhat apathetic by nature.



** Alicorns, while much closer to ponies, are also stated to have a slightly altered morality, as they are incapable of feeling regret for the same reasons Draconequi have their altered versions of love (they can still feel remorse and guilt, however). This trope is more pronounced in Alicorns who have not [[spoiler:[[AmnesiacGod spent a lifetime living as a mortal]]]], such as Luna, which is ''why'' they do it in the first place. It's later explained that this inability to feel regret extends to ''all'' the Concepts and is in place for a very important reason: in their natural state they are capable of freely moving through time, the ability to wish they'd done things differently could lead to them ''actually'' trying to go back in time and do it differently, which could have [[ButterflyOfDoom very negative consequences.]] Especially due to the fact messing with time could potentially [[RetGone erase a lot of beings from existence]].

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** Alicorns, while much closer to ponies, are also stated to have a slightly altered morality, as they are incapable of feeling regret for the same reasons Draconequi have their altered versions of love (they can still feel remorse and guilt, however). This trope is more pronounced in Alicorns who have not [[spoiler:[[AmnesiacGod spent a lifetime living as a mortal]]]], such as Luna, which is ''why'' they do it in the first place. It's later explained that this inability to feel regret extends to ''all'' the Concepts and is in place for a very important reason: in their natural state they are capable of freely moving through time, the ability to wish they'd done things differently could lead to them ''actually'' trying to go back in time and do it differently, which could have [[ButterflyOfDoom very negative consequences.]] consequences]]. Especially due to the fact messing with time could potentially [[RetGone erase a lot of beings from existence]].



* In the fan novel ''Fanfic/WithoutAHive'' The Changelings ''and'' Ponies, from each other's POV. Changeling morality is based on absolute loyalty to one's own Hive; and callousness, distrust and ruthlessness toward all other beings. This makes the individualistic, kind, trusting and universally-ethical Ponies difficult for the Changelings to understand: even the Infiltrators but dimly comprehend much beneath the surface of Pony ways.

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* Naruto's life in ''[[https://www.fanfiction.net/s/11449480/1/A-Mother-s-Knight A Mother's Knight]]'' centers around one person and one person alone, [[MamasBoy his mother]]. Naruto will do whatever he can to ensure Kushina's safety and happiness, no matter the cost.
-->'''Naruto:''' Morals are merely a luxurious commodity.
* In ''FanFic/AkatsukiKittenPhoenixCorporationOverhaul'', the Agents, who work directly for the author. They know that some of the things they do are wrong by traditional standards, but are better for furthering the plot, like [[{{Necromancer}} bringing back the dead.]] There's also some, like [[PsychopathicManChild Agent Diamond]], who have moral issues completely outside that of the author deciding which plot maneuver would be best.

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* In the fan novel ''Fanfic/WithoutAHive'' ''Fanfic/WithoutAHive'', The Changelings ''and'' Ponies, from each other's POV. Changeling morality is based on absolute loyalty to one's own Hive; and callousness, distrust and ruthlessness toward all other beings. This makes the individualistic, kind, trusting and universally-ethical Ponies difficult for the Changelings to understand: even the Infiltrators but dimly comprehend much beneath the surface of Pony ways.

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* Naruto's life in ''[[https://www.fanfiction.net/s/11449480/1/A-Mother-s-Knight A Mother's Knight]]'' centers around one person and one person alone, [[MamasBoy his mother]]. Naruto will do whatever he can to ensure Kushina's safety and happiness, no matter the cost.
-->'''Naruto:''' Morals are merely a luxurious commodity.
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* In ''FanFic/AkatsukiKittenPhoenixCorporationOverhaul'', ''Fanfic/AkatsukiKittenPhoenixCorporationOverhaul'', the Agents, who work directly for the author. They know that some of the things they do are wrong by traditional standards, but are better for furthering the plot, like [[{{Necromancer}} bringing back the dead.]] There's also some, like [[PsychopathicManChild Agent Diamond]], who have moral issues completely outside that of the author deciding which plot maneuver would be best.



* Every Uchiha ever in ''FanFic/UchibiSasuke'' [[spoiler: Given the fact that anyone with the Sharingan is descended from demons, it kinda makes sense.]] Not only that, but the Uchiha are ''Uchiha'', so naturally they're superior to all those other, non-Uchiha people. After all, those people aren't ''really'' people, they're tools. Still, some tools can be pretty awesome.
* [[EldritchAbomination Xanna]] in the ''[[https://www.fanfiction.net/s/9920512/1/Reaching-for-a-Dream Reaching for a Dream]]'' series is at times described as being "so far removed from human that trying to look at her from a human perspective was useless at best". For example, she'll let Naruto do whatever he wants so long as his heart belongs to her and her alone. Or that Xanna believes she can do whatever she wants with/to those weaker than her because they aren't powerful enough to stop her.
** [[https://www.fanfiction.net/s/10917821/1/The-questionable-burdens-of-leadership-of-a-troll-Emperor One of the sequels]] shows that by that same token, Xanna can't comprehend humans. She doesn't understand why mass executions or culling the elderly cause revolts when she tries to rule nations, only that they do, or why trying to force people to agree with her only breeds more resentment (chalking it up to them being stupid). [[ArsonMurderAndJaywalking Lastly, Xanna is terrible at economics]], not realizing that just because everything in the empire belongs to her, doesn't mean she doesn't need to worry about the cost of using/acquiring said resources.
* In ''[[https://www.fanfiction.net/s/9968858/1/ She Who Dwells in Eternity]]'', Kurama is forced to raise Naruto and considers him her pet, which in her view puts him far above other humans who are inconsequential at best. After getting free, she decides against wiping out Konoha for imprisoning her because they'll all be dead within a century anyway.

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* Every Uchiha ever Naruto's life in ''FanFic/UchibiSasuke'' [[spoiler: Given the fact that anyone with the Sharingan is descended from demons, it kinda makes sense.]] Not only that, but the Uchiha are ''Uchiha'', so naturally they're superior to all those other, non-Uchiha people. After all, those people aren't ''really'' people, they're tools. Still, some tools can be pretty awesome.
* [[EldritchAbomination Xanna]] in the
''[[https://www.fanfiction.net/s/9920512/1/Reaching-for-a-Dream Reaching for a Dream]]'' series is at times described as being "so far removed from human that trying to look at her from a human perspective was useless at best". For example, she'll let net/s/11449480/1/A-Mother-s-Knight A Mother's Knight]]'' centers around one person and one person alone, [[MamasBoy his mother]]. Naruto will do whatever he wants so long as his heart belongs can to her ensure Kushina's safety and her alone. Or that Xanna believes she can do whatever she wants with/to those weaker than her because they aren't powerful enough to stop her.
** [[https://www.fanfiction.net/s/10917821/1/The-questionable-burdens-of-leadership-of-a-troll-Emperor One of
happiness, no matter the sequels]] shows that by that same token, Xanna can't comprehend humans. She doesn't understand why mass executions or culling the elderly cause revolts when she tries to rule nations, only that they do, or why trying to force people to agree with her only breeds more resentment (chalking it up to them being stupid). [[ArsonMurderAndJaywalking Lastly, Xanna is terrible at economics]], not realizing that just because everything in the empire belongs to her, doesn't mean she doesn't need to worry about the cost of using/acquiring said resources.
* In ''[[https://www.fanfiction.net/s/9968858/1/ She Who Dwells in Eternity]]'', Kurama is forced to raise Naruto and considers him her pet, which in her view puts him far above other humans who
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* In ''[[https://www.fanfiction.net/s/9968858/1/ She Who Dwells in Eternity]]'', Kurama is forced to raise Naruto and considers him her pet, which in her view puts him far above other humans who are inconsequential at best. After getting free, she decides against wiping out Konoha for imprisoning her because they'll all be dead within a century anyway.
* Every Uchiha ever in ''Fanfic/UchibiSasuke'' [[spoiler:Given the fact that anyone with the Sharingan is descended from demons, it kinda makes sense.]] Not only that, but the Uchiha are ''Uchiha'', so naturally they're superior to all those other, non-Uchiha people. After all, those people aren't ''really'' people, they're tools. Still, some tools can be pretty awesome.

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* In ''Fanfic/DaphneGreengrassAndTheBoyWhoLived'', Slytherin pure-blood Daphne needs to explain some of the Noble House politics affecting the wizarding world to Hermione to give her a better understanding of why it’s sometimes OK to break/bend the rules based on the political machinations of the noble houses.



* ''[[https://www.fanfiction.net/s/12314753/1/The-Price-of-Victory The Price of Victory]]'' analyses this when Ginny is forced to marry Draco Malfoy to "redeem" his public image after the war; it's considered perfectly acceptable for Malfoy to abuse Ginny in private and have semi-public affairs, but it would be a scandal if Ginny cheated on him in turn and divorce is unacceptable.




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* ''[[https://www.fanfiction.net/s/12314753/1/The-Price-of-Victory The Price of Victory]]'' analyses this when Ginny is forced to marry Draco Malfoy to "redeem" his public image after the war; it's considered perfectly acceptable for Malfoy to abuse Ginny in private and have semi-public affairs, but it would be a scandal if Ginny cheated on him in turn and divorce is unacceptable.
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** The [[EldritchAbomination Outer Concepts]] take this UpToEleven. Not only is their morality system alien by mortal standards, each has one so unique and alien to themselves they can't even comprehend ''each other's'' morality. Ponythulhu is about the only member of the group that has anything resembling pony morality, and that's likely more him comprehending pony morality rather than the other way around.

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** The [[EldritchAbomination Outer Concepts]] take this UpToEleven.Concepts]]. Not only is their morality system alien by mortal standards, each has one so unique and alien to themselves they can't even comprehend ''each other's'' morality. Ponythulhu is about the only member of the group that has anything resembling pony morality, and that's likely more him comprehending pony morality rather than the other way around.
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* [[EldritchAbomination Xanna]] in the ''[[https://www.fanfiction.net/s/9920512/1/Reaching-for-a-Dream Reaching for a Dream]]'' series is at times described as being "so far removed from human that trying to look at her from a human perspective was useless at best". For example, she'll let Naruto do whatever he wants so long as his heart belongs to her and her alone.

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* [[EldritchAbomination Xanna]] in the ''[[https://www.fanfiction.net/s/9920512/1/Reaching-for-a-Dream Reaching for a Dream]]'' series is at times described as being "so far removed from human that trying to look at her from a human perspective was useless at best". For example, she'll let Naruto do whatever he wants so long as his heart belongs to her and her alone. Or that Xanna believes she can do whatever she wants with/to those weaker than her because they aren't powerful enough to stop her.
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* ''Fanfic/ForLoveOfMagic'':
** Because Veela need sex and magic to survive, they think nothing of public orgies, even between family members, and have been known to accidentally destroy marriages since what they view as a bit of fun and a meal, their partners wives see as infidelity. After figuring out how to create liquid magic, Harry quickly learns to keep it away from Fleur when she tries to kill him to get it in a feral frenzy. Perhaps best exemplified with Harry's Veela daughter Victoire who sees nothing wrong with being gangbanged by her half-brothers but is grossed out at the idea of having romantic feelings for them.
** That Veela need their partner's magic to reproduce also means they're physically incapable of being attracted to muggles, with Harry noting that anyone without magic might as well be a chair for all the Veela feel for them.
** A group of sphinxes trick Harry into confronting a lich Imhotep in order to free them from their slavery to the undead wizard. Yet, they willingly enslave themselves to Harry to pay back their debt both for freeing them and for deceiving him in the first place.


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** [[https://www.fanfiction.net/s/10917821/1/The-questionable-burdens-of-leadership-of-a-troll-Emperor One of the sequels]] shows that by that same token, Xanna can't comprehend humans. She doesn't understand why mass executions or culling the elderly cause revolts when she tries to rule nations, only that they do, or why trying to force people to agree with her only breeds more resentment (chalking it up to them being stupid). [[ArsonMurderAndJaywalking Lastly, Xanna is terrible at economics]], not realizing that just because everything in the empire belongs to her, doesn't mean she doesn't need to worry about the cost of using/acquiring said resources.
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* ''Fanfic/{{Embers}}'' has dragons. Shidan, resident dragon-turned-human provides the current page quote. He struggles to understand humanity despite having spent decades as a human and having decades (at least) of friendships with humans even before his transformation.

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* ''Fanfic/{{Embers}}'' ''Fanfic/EmbersVathara'' has dragons. Shidan, resident dragon-turned-human provides the current page quote. He struggles to understand humanity despite having spent decades as a human and having decades (at least) of friendships with humans even before his transformation.
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** Later chapters introduce Genevieve, a Veela medical expert who it's noted has had relationships with both her teachers when she was a student and her students after she became a teacher herself; the author makes it clear that such relationships are not being condoned normally, but are still relatively acceptable in Veela culture.
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** Bo is shocked when [[spoiler:Morgana offers to duel Arthur and have Gwen put in the stocks when she realises that they believe Bo is cheating on Merlin with Morgana, as culture demands these responses when Bo is willing to acknowledge where they're coming from and would be willing to accept an apology]].

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** Bo is shocked when [[spoiler:Morgana offers to duel Arthur and have Gwen put in the stocks when she realises that they believe Bo is cheating on Merlin with Morgana, as Morgana's culture demands these responses when Bo is willing to acknowledge where they're coming from that Arthur and Gwen's basic motives were good and would be willing prefer to accept an apology]].explain her side and give them a chance to apologise]].

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* ''[[https://archiveofourown.org/works/33823474/ Apex Predator]]'' features Harry and Fleur starting a relationship during the Triwizard Tournament, with a key element being the idea that Veela are basically infertile without the use of magical assistance. As a result, Veela are basically hardwired to consider any "loss" of semen as a disgusting insult (Fleur compares it to the reaction humans might have to someone eating faeces), with the result that Fleur is briefly outraged to realise that Harry masturbated without her present before Harry fights off her initial assault and points out that he couldn't have known that was an issue with her and so he can't be punished for acting on ignorance. Harry experiences a more pleasurable example of this when Fleur's mother, Apolline, "tests" his sexual performance with Fleur watching, as Veela society has a common fantasy of one member claiming a prized mate that can be shared with the rest of the family.

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* ''[[https://archiveofourown.org/works/33823474/ Apex Predator]]'' features a few details about Veela culture that would be disconcerting in a human society after Harry and Fleur starting start a relationship during the Triwizard Tournament, with a key element being the idea that Tournament;
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Veela are basically infertile without the use of magical assistance. As a result, assistance, Veela are basically hardwired to consider any "loss" of semen as a disgusting insult (Fleur compares it to the reaction humans might have to someone eating faeces), with the result that faeces). As a result, Fleur is briefly outraged to realise that Harry masturbated without her present before Harry fights off her initial assault and points out that he couldn't have known that was an issue with her and so he can't be punished for acting on ignorance. ignorance.
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Harry experiences a more pleasurable example of this when Fleur's mother, Apolline, "tests" his sexual performance with Fleur watching, as Veela society has a common fantasy of one member claiming a prized mate that can be shared with the rest of the family.family.
** In terms of Veela family dynamics, not only does Apolline have no problem with the notion of Gabrielle having sex with Harry even though she's only eleven, but she and Fleur later set up a brief ritual where Apolline swears "allegiance" to Fleur (in the sense that she agrees to Fleur's demands that any decision made about Harry will only be granted with Fleur's approval) that includes Apolline licking Fleur's clit. Apolline's thoughts also note that any male child born to a Veela will inevitably become his sisters' "plaything", although no further details are provided.
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* "[[https://www.fanfiction.net/s/13541656/1/Anatomy-of-a-Secret Anatomy of a Secret]]" looks at the future of the [[Film/StarTrek2009 alternate timeline created by Nero]], at the start of Commander Sisko's second year on ''[[Series/StarTrekDeepSpaceNine Deep Space 9]]''. After the destruction of Vulcan, various species established secondary colonies to protect themselves against similar attacks, with the Trill relocating the unblended symbiotes to a moon. This trope comes into play as most Trill on the homeworld have become increasingly focused on keeping the existence of the symbiotes secret as they're concerned that ''every'' individual who learnt about the symbiotes would want to be blended with one, even though most Trill who have met other species recognise that most aliens wouldn't actually like the idea of being blended with another consciousness.
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** Bo is shocked when [[spoiler:Morgana offers to duel Arthur and have Gwen put in the stocks when she realises that they believe Bo is cheating on Merlin with Morgana, as culture demands these responses when Bo is willing to acknowledge where they're coming from and would be willing to accept an apology]].
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* ''[[https://archiveofourown.org/works/33823474/ Apex Predator]]'' features Harry and Fleur starting a relationship during the Triwizard Tournament, with a key element being the idea that Veela are basically infertile without the use of magical assistance. As a result, Veela are basically hardwired to consider any "loss" of semen as a disgusting insult (Fleur compares it to the reaction humans might have to someone eating faeces), with the result that Fleur is briefly outraged to realise that Harry masturbated without her present before Harry fights off her initial assault and points out that he couldn't have known that was an issue with her and so he can't be punished for acting on ignorance.

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* ''[[https://archiveofourown.org/works/33823474/ Apex Predator]]'' features Harry and Fleur starting a relationship during the Triwizard Tournament, with a key element being the idea that Veela are basically infertile without the use of magical assistance. As a result, Veela are basically hardwired to consider any "loss" of semen as a disgusting insult (Fleur compares it to the reaction humans might have to someone eating faeces), with the result that Fleur is briefly outraged to realise that Harry masturbated without her present before Harry fights off her initial assault and points out that he couldn't have known that was an issue with her and so he can't be punished for acting on ignorance. Harry experiences a more pleasurable example of this when Fleur's mother, Apolline, "tests" his sexual performance with Fleur watching, as Veela society has a common fantasy of one member claiming a prized mate that can be shared with the rest of the family.



* ''[[https://www.fanfiction.net/s/12314753/1/The-Price-of-Victory The Price of Victory]]'' analyses this when Ginny is forced to marry Draco Malfoy to "redeem" his public image after the war; it's considered perfectly acceptable for Malfoy to abuse Ginny in private and have semi-public affairs, but it would be a scandal if Ginny cheated on him and divorce is unacceptable.

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* ''[[https://www.fanfiction.net/s/12314753/1/The-Price-of-Victory The Price of Victory]]'' analyses this when Ginny is forced to marry Draco Malfoy to "redeem" his public image after the war; it's considered perfectly acceptable for Malfoy to abuse Ginny in private and have semi-public affairs, but it would be a scandal if Ginny cheated on him in turn and divorce is unacceptable.
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* ''Fanfic/LostInCamelot'';
** Bo is sometimes surprised about the idea that society in Albion expects a noblewoman such as her or Morgana to be 'virginal' and 'pure'; at one point she has trouble escaping captivity by trying to seduce her guards because they're reluctant to do anything that would 'damage the goods'.
** Some of the fae encountered in this time, including [[spoiler:the past version of Dyson]], are somewhat surprised at the human notion of women as fragile things that need to be protected, as fae women are often just as formidable fighters as men.
** [[spoiler:Lancelot]] unwittingly offends Kenzi when he suggests that her future husband could provide for her rather than her needing to worry about such a thing herself, but Kenzi accepts his apology when he clarifies that he was unaware of her own cultural standards.
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* ''[[https://archiveofourown.org/works/33823474/ Apex Predator]]'' features Harry and Fleur starting a relationship during the Triwizard Tournament, with a key element being the idea that Veela are basically infertile without the use of magical assistance. As a result, Veela are basically hardwired to consider any "loss" of semen as a disgusting insult (Fleur compares it to the reaction humans might have to someone eating faeces), with the result that Fleur is briefly outraged to realise that Harry masturbated without her present before Harry fights off her initial assault and points out that he couldn't have known that was an issue with her and so he can't be punished for acting on ignorance.
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** Evoked in Chapter 31, when McGonagall initially focuses more on punishing Ginny for attacking Romilda Vane than on Romilda's use of a love potion on Harry.

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* In the NSFW fic ''[[https://www.fanfiction.net/s/13139211/1/Lady-Lucks-Favor Lady Luck's Favor]]'', the vast majority of ghosts are driven by a singular obsession which dictates most of their actions, for good or ill. Examples include Ember's desire for fame and Skulker's obsession with hunting. Maddie notes they're not really evil so much as chaotic, comparing ghosts to someone with severe bipolar disorder, switching between extremely happy and violent rage over seemingly nothing.

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* Invoked in the ''Series/StarTrekVoyager''/''Series/StargateAtlantis'' crossover "[[https://www.fanfiction.net/s/12431864/1/Voyager-Lost Voyager Lost]]" when the Atlantis expedition question Chakotay about the Prime Directive, as the Federation would refuse to interfere with more primitive civilisations they detect while travelling via space that the SGC would assist if they encountered them when using the Stargate.




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* ''[[https://www.fanfiction.net/s/12314753/1/The-Price-of-Victory The Price of Victory]]'' analyses this when Ginny is forced to marry Draco Malfoy to "redeem" his public image after the war; it's considered perfectly acceptable for Malfoy to abuse Ginny in private and have semi-public affairs, but it would be a scandal if Ginny cheated on him and divorce is unacceptable.
* ''Fanfic/ThePowerOfSeven'';
** Evoked in Chapter 31, when McGonagall initially focuses more on punishing Ginny for attacking Romilda Vane than on Romilda's use of a love potion on Harry.
** Features more explicitly in chapter 49; Veela are such sexual beings that Apolline Delacour had no problem discussing sexual matters with her ten-year-old daughter when Gabrielle experienced her sexual 'awakening' as a Veela after Harry saved her in the second Triwizard task.

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* ''Fanfic/HeroChat'': Chloe makes a list of [[BrainwashedAndCrazy Akuma victims]], sorted by how valid the reason they got akumatized was. There's "[[VillainHasAPoint Valid]]," "[[DisproportionateRetribution Valid, but this is a bit much]]," "[[NeverMyFault You brought this on your own damn self]]," and finally "Bruh, what the fuck?" The last category is for when no sane person can figure out why anyone would be mad about the situation at all. It includes people like Mister Pigeon (got akumatized because he wasn't allowed to feed pigeons--and it's happened repeatedly, so it wasn't one bad day) and Animan (got akumatized because a teenager claimed he could outrun a panther).

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* ''Fanfic/HeroChat'': Chloe makes a list of [[BrainwashedAndCrazy Akuma victims]], sorted by how valid the reason they got akumatized was. There's "[[VillainHasAPoint Valid]]," "[[DisproportionateRetribution Valid, but this is a bit much]]," "[[NeverMyFault You brought this on your own damn self]]," and finally "Bruh, what the fuck?" The last category is for when no sane person can figure out why anyone would be mad about the situation at all. It includes people like Mister Pigeon (got akumatized because he wasn't allowed to feed pigeons--and it's happened repeatedly, so it wasn't one bad day) and Animan (got akumatized because a teenager claimed he could outrun a panther).
panther). Although the latter one got reclassified as a "Valid, but this is a bit much" when they got the akuma victim's side of the story; turns out that said teenager's incessant boasting about how he totally could outrun a panther because he was just that badass ''really'' got on the zookeeper's nerves after a while.

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* Maledict the Devil from ''FanFic/SonicXDarkChaos'' literally [[EvilCannotComprehendGood does not understand why Sonic and his friends want to stop him,]] nor does he see anything wrong in manipulating mortals to do horrific acts in his name, and he's obsessed with secretly interfering in events. Being a PhysicalGod slash HumanoidAbomination who is [[TimeAbyss over five hundred trillion years old]] [[spoiler: and using cybernetics to keep himself from physically disintegrating]] has something to do with it. Allysion, Maledict's archenemy, is even more odd. Her entire belief system revolves around "Demon=bad" and she also sees nothing wrong in manipulating mortals to defeat the Demons by any means necessary. She is also completely fine with exterminating innocent Demon subjects. She believes they are "living in sin" and therefore need to be shown "Christian love" (read: [[EarthShatteringKaboom planetary annihilation]]). [[MoralMyopia She cannot fathom why any mortal would follow Maledict,]] even though she is NotSoDifferent.

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Maledict the Devil from ''FanFic/SonicXDarkChaos'' literally [[EvilCannotComprehendGood does not understand why Sonic and his friends want to stop him,]] nor does he see anything wrong in manipulating mortals to do horrific acts in his name, and he's obsessed with secretly interfering in events. Being a PhysicalGod slash HumanoidAbomination who is [[TimeAbyss over five hundred trillion years old]] [[spoiler: and using cybernetics to keep himself from physically disintegrating]] has something to do with it. Allysion, Maledict's archenemy, is even more odd. Her entire belief system revolves around "Demon=bad" and she also sees nothing wrong in manipulating mortals to defeat the Demons by any means necessary. She is also completely fine with exterminating innocent Demon subjects. She believes they are "living in sin" and therefore need to be shown "Christian love" (read: [[EarthShatteringKaboom planetary annihilation]]). [[MoralMyopia She cannot fathom why any mortal would follow Maledict,]] even though she is NotSoDifferent.[[NotSoDifferentRemark not so different]].
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* ''Fanfic/HeroChat'': Chloe makes a list of [[BrainwashedAndCrazy Akuma victims]], sorted by how valid the reason they got akumatized was. There's "[[VillainHasAPoint Valid]]," "[[DisproportionateRetribution Valid, but this is a bit much]]," "[[NeverMyFault You brought this on your own damn self]]," and finally "Bruh, what the fuck?" The last category is for when no sane person can figure out why anyone would be mad about the situation at all. It includes people like Mister Pigeon (got akumatized because he wasn't allowed to feed pigeons--and it's happened repeatedly, so it wasn't one bad day) and Animaestro (got akumatized because a teenager claimed he could outrun a panther).

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* ''Fanfic/HeroChat'': Chloe makes a list of [[BrainwashedAndCrazy Akuma victims]], sorted by how valid the reason they got akumatized was. There's "[[VillainHasAPoint Valid]]," "[[DisproportionateRetribution Valid, but this is a bit much]]," "[[NeverMyFault You brought this on your own damn self]]," and finally "Bruh, what the fuck?" The last category is for when no sane person can figure out why anyone would be mad about the situation at all. It includes people like Mister Pigeon (got akumatized because he wasn't allowed to feed pigeons--and it's happened repeatedly, so it wasn't one bad day) and Animaestro Animan (got akumatized because a teenager claimed he could outrun a panther).
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* ''Fanfic/HeroChat'': Chloe makes a list of [[BrainwashedAndCrazy Akuma victims]], sorted by how valid the reason they got akumatized was. There's "[[VillainHasAPoint Valid]]," "[[DisproportionateRetribution Valid, but this is a bit much]]," "[[NeverMyFault You brought this on your own damn self]]," and finally "Bruh, what the fuck?" The last category is for when no sane person can figure out why anyone would be mad about the situation at all. It includes people like Mister Pigeon (got akumatized because he wasn't allowed to feed pigeons--and it's happened repeatedly, so it wasn't one bad day) and Animaestro (got akumatized because a teenager claimed he could outrun a panther).
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* In ''Fanfic/TheUnfantasticAdventuresOfBizarroNo1'', SelfDemonstrating/{{Bizarro}}'s sense of right and wrong is weird. Rather than a mere full reversal, it's kind of a distorted mirror of human morals. His race find the fact that the [[ManOfKryptonite Blue-Kryptonite Men]] tried to change their planet's shape more offensive than their attempted genocide.

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* In ''Fanfic/TheUnfantasticAdventuresOfBizarroNo1'', SelfDemonstrating/{{Bizarro}}'s ComicBook/{{Bizarro}}'s sense of right and wrong is weird. Rather than a mere full reversal, it's kind of a distorted mirror of human morals. His race find the fact that the [[ManOfKryptonite Blue-Kryptonite Men]] tried to change their planet's shape more offensive than their attempted genocide.

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