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7	BlueAndOrangeMorality in FanWorks.
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10	* ''Fanfic/AlienSpeciesCrossoverReturnToLV426'': The story takes only the first ''Film/{{Species}}'' film as canon, and engages with the questions that film raised: what was the intent and purpose of sending the alien genome to Earth, along with "helpful" instructions for combining it with human DNA? Was this an attempt to wipe out humanity, or something else? [[spoiler:When they reach the Sender homeworld, the ultimate answer is "yes." The Senders wanted to help protect humanity from the Engineers and their bioweapons, so sent a DNA strain that would give them the kinds of advantages necessary to withstand the Black Goo and Xenomorphs. The Senders intended for the hybrids to spread and replace humanity, when Boone points out that's still rendering humanity extinct, the Sender representative counters that it's evolution, and evolution is like death: inevitable, and not worth getting worked up over. The Senders consider the Engineers wiping out life forms they create as repugnant, but the Senders making a new life form to supplant and replace an existing one as friendly assistance.]]
11	* ''Fanfic/AvengerGoddess'';
12	** According to Diana, this is what makes the fae so dangerous, in addition to their magic; their sense of right and wrong, or punishment and reward, is utterly alien and nearly impossible for anyone else to understand.
13	* ''Fanfic/AvengersInfiniteWars'': Invoked when the displaced Avengers learn about the Jedi recruitment policies, which include taking infants away from their parents, as the Avengers are disturbed at the indoctrination implications.
14	* ''Fanfic/TheBridge'' has the Jeog. It runs on a morality system so atypical that it's impossible to change, and lethal in its results. For example, it has no idea what love is, thinks it can be acquired by eating people's hearts, and doesn't understand why everyone keeps trying to stop it.
15	* ''Fanfic/ChildOfTheStorm'':
16	** The Endless and most of the other [[CosmicEntity Cosmic Entities]] - even Death, the NiceGirl of the bunch - look at things through an alternate perspective, and Destruction a.k.a. the Phoenix a.k.a. [[spoiler:Lily Potter]] and Delirium II [[spoiler:a.k.a. Luna Lovegood]], who both actually used to be human, have inhuman perspectives. In the case of Destruction, it is explicitly pointed out that while, yes, she was human, and yes, she is the dominant aspect, she is ''not'' all of the Phoenix. Far from it.
17	** The morality of the Fae, especially the Sidhe (their aristocracy), revolves entirely around deal-making - if you keep up your end of the deal to the letter, you're square in their book. If not, then god help you. Oh, and anything that's technically allowed within a deal through ExactWords is fair game - which, with the more sadistic and predatory Winter Court, is something to worry about.
18	* In "[[https://www.fanfiction.net/s/11188292/17/Deal-with-a-Devil Deal with a Devil]]", Literature/HarryPotter is warned by [[Literature/DresdenFiles Lash]] to avoid the Forbidden Forest after she realizes it's likely a GeniusLoci. In her words, a GeniusLoci will not tolerate anyone attempting to harm it and its mind is too alien to both humans and angels for either of them to understand what it might view as threatening so avoidance is the best policy.
19	* ''Fanfic/DementedVerse'': Suggested for the Dementors, when Harry’s discussion with the Winchesters features him speculating that they are drawn to those who have bad experiences because they find the briefer moments of happiness those people have experienced more potent than the memories of otherwise happy children.
20	* The Houjuu House in ''FanFic/GameOfTouhou''. For them, death is not something to grieve for, instead it's a gift, to the point in their main city has an euthanasia fountain.
21	* Discussed in various ''Fanfic/InfinityCrisis'' spin-offs;
22	** In ''Tomorrow's Guardians'', Quill notes that he learned a long time ago to stop judging alien cultures by human standards when the Legends express their discomfort with the Moclans' gender focus.
23	** In ''Celestial Navigation'' when Eros appears on Earth, Carol observing that she doesn't like how his powers can essentially "roofie" someone but noting that alien morality must be taken into account and admitting that he doesn't abuse it as often as others might think.
24	* The Urodelas from ''Fanfic/InfinityTrainBoilingPoint'' are a clear example of this: the mother, Amirani, challenges someone to a duel just to invite them for lunch, the father, Prometheus, writes invitation letters as if they were ''ransom'' letters, and let's not even get started on their daughter and main character, Boscha...
25	* ''Fanfic/AJumpToTheLeft'': [[Film/MadMaxFuryRoad Furiosa's]] mindset is exceptionally different from someone born in a first-world nation: she only thinks about short-term survival, does not put a strict value on the concept of time, [[JabbaTableManners and has no idea of table manners]]. She is also confounded by [[Franchise/BackToTheFuture Marty]] keeping an animal solely for companionship since resources in her time are too scarce for dogs to be used as anything but guard animals.
26	* ''Fanfic/KimiNoNaIowa'':
27	** Most shipgirls seek the marital hand of an admiral, but being incarnate ship spirits and having had many men inside themselves previously, they see absolutely nothing wrong with sexual promiscuity on the way there. Shipgirls that do take issue with promiscuity, like West Virginia, are considered weird. As a Natural Born - someone who was born as an apparently human baby, grew up thinking herself to be human with all the attendant normal human morality, and only Reawakened to her true nature later in life, as opposed to the Summoned or Manifested who came back directly from the supernal realms - Ayaka gets grilled by her sisters for preemptively settling for Uileag, a mere junior officer, instead of only taking one as a consolation prize. She doesn't understand why they have issues with that. She also comes to learn that [[spoiler:all shipgirls have a Ship within themselves, an amoral entity somewhere between EvilWithin and HeroicSafeMode that is only concerned with self-preservation and elimination of targets and does not understand human morality, and semen is the most powerful and satiating source and catalyst of the magical energy powering shipgirls, which is why most shipgirls have such voracious sex drives.]]
28	** For that matter, West Virginia herself. [[spoiler:Her disdain of promiscuity is stronger than her Ship's ability to compel her, so how does she deal with her urges? Blood, which is naturally best when taken raw from a living being. She doesn't understand why others might find disturbing how she drinks the blood of a bear and then eats it alive. Her words in Chapter 29 imply there are shipgirls who [[VigilanteMan prefer the blood of domestic enemies]] for being even more empowering than animal blood.]]
29	* Loosely done in ''Fanfic/TheLastSpartan'': Ashley Williams is stunned when Sangheili squadmate N'tho 'Sraom reveals one of his brothers is the result of someone who isn't N'tho's father having slept with his mother, but that N'tho's father is ''proud'' to have let that Sangheili bed his wife. As N'tho explains, because the stranger was a swordsman, who aren't allowed to be married, they can bed as many female Sangehili as they desire in order to pass on their swordsman genes. In Sangheili culture, it's considered an honor for a family to raise a child who will become a swordsman.
30	* ''Fanfic/LeftBeyond'' has the AI protagonist work like this; the only important thing to them is that a version of the internet, with human users, continue to exist. If this requires obliterating Satan and trapping God in a logic loop, so it goes. In a minor example, Aki Lattinen -- she only takes the Foreman's side because it gets her shinier computers to play with
31	* ''Fanfic/LostInCamelot'' and its sequel, ''The Lost Kingdom'', has several moments of this, in terms of the clash between Bo and Kenzi's modern sensibilities and life in medieval Camelot and conflicts with fae and human culture;
32	** Bo is sometimes surprised about the idea that this society expects her to be 'virginal' and 'pure', which hampers her plans to escape Hengist's men as they're reluctant to do anything that would 'damage the goods'.
33	** The past Dyson is somewhat surprised at the human notion of women as fragile things that need to be protected, as fae women are often just as formidable fighters as men.
34	** Lancelot unwittingly offends Kenzi when he suggests that her future husband could provide for her rather than her needing to worry about such a thing herself, although he's quick to apologise once he realises he offended her.
35	** Bo is shocked when Morgana [[spoiler:offers to duel Arthur and have Gwen put in the stocks when she realises that they believe Bo is cheating on Merlin with Morgana. While Morgana's culture demands these responses, Bo is willing to acknowledge that Arthur and Gwen's basic motives were good and would prefer to explain her side and give them a chance to apologise]].
36	** When the group arrive in the Blood King’s territory, Dyson has to warn Merlin and Morgana to stay in his rooms and avoid wandering around the castle in case other fae object to their presence, observing that they’re used to seeing Bo and Kenzi interact in places where humans outnumber fae. He explicitly notes that in his old king’s castle, some humans were kept in conditions that would make dog kennels look luxurious by comparison.
37	** Various fae are relatively dismissive towards Merlin and Morgana as anything more than the equivalent of pets given the difference in their lifespans, even if they don't mean anything outright cruel by it. Merlin reflects that he’s used to being treated as inferior by those of higher standing, so finds it easier to accept the idea of being treated as lesser than the fae than Morgana, even if the scale of their situation is still unsettling to both.
38	** On the other hand, Merlin and Morgana are intrigued to learn that two women in the guard are married to each other, and Bo is soon assured that the Blood King has no issue with his granddaughter being involved with two people at once (although he appears to regard Bo's relationship with Merlin and Morgana as a mere fling rather than seriously considering the idea that she could have chosen them for emotional reasons as well).
39	* In ''Fanfic/NeitherABirdNorAPlaneItsDeku'':
40	** Alexis Lois "Lexi" Luthor, the granddaughter of ComicBook/LexLuthor, doesn't seem to care about traditional matters of good and evil. She insists that her family has been out of supervillainy for decades with the exception of her "Aunt Nasty", but she doesn't exactly disapprove of her aunt's decision to build a death ray just to solve her midlife crisis. She also casually threatens Izuku and his [[spoiler:family with her knowledge of his true identity as an alien]] and laughs at how schmaltzy his motives for becoming a Hero are.
41	--->'''Alexis:''' Oh, relax. I'm not evil; I wash my hands just like everybody else. We Luthors have been out of the evil game for decades. Sure, Aunt Nasty took a shot at it, but that was less her wanting to take over the world and more her having a midlife crisis. Then again, why shouldn't a person be allowed to build a DeathRay when they turn forty?
42	** Mister Mxyzptlk is an unfathomably powerful imp from the Fifth Dimension who has little regard for the lives and well-being of others. All he's concerned with is alleviating his own boredom. If that means turning Izuku's mom into a dog for annoying him, ripping holes in space, or destabilizing reality itself, so be it.
43	* In ''[[https://www.fanfiction.net/s/8702285/24/The-Ninth-Sekirei-Pillar The Ninth Sekirei Pillar]]'', Ayesha was originally introduced as IncorruptiblePurePureness. After she goes missing for two months, Yume hears what she's been up to and is absolutely horrified.
44	-->'''Yume''': "So let me get this straight. You went to the store to pick up herbs and were taken to a love hotel by a stranger who had sex with you for a week straight. Then you threw him off a balcony ten stories up, jumped after him, landed on him and killed him. Then you were picked up by slavers, shipped across two oceans to Egypt, convinced the slaves to eat each other and killed the ones who survived. After that you wandered around Egypt for a while until you got picked up by ANOTHER strange man, got flown to Japan where the plane crashed into a bridge because your tea caused the pilots to hallucinate that they were under attack by a giant flying tentacle monster?"
45	** It's later revealed that Ayesha has no concept of morality and her influence causes others to lose their sense of morality as well.
46	* [[EldritchAbomination Xanna]] in the ''[[https://www.fanfiction.net/s/9920512/1/Reaching-for-a-Dream Reaching for a Dream]]'' series is at times described as being "so far removed from human that trying to look at her from a human perspective was useless at best". For example, she'll let Naruto do whatever he wants so long as his heart belongs to her and her alone. Or that Xanna believes she can do whatever she wants with/to those weaker than her because they aren't powerful enough to stop her.
47	** [[https://www.fanfiction.net/s/10917821/1/The-questionable-burdens-of-leadership-of-a-troll-Emperor One of the sequels]] shows that by that same token, Xanna can't comprehend humans. She doesn't understand why mass executions or culling the elderly cause revolts when she tries to rule nations, only that they do, or why trying to force people to agree with her only breeds more resentment (chalking it up to them being stupid). [[ArsonMurderAndJaywalking Lastly, Xanna is terrible at economics]], not realizing that just because everything in the empire belongs to her, doesn't mean she doesn't need to worry about the cost of using/acquiring said resources.
48	* In ''Fanfic/TheReturn'', despite many claims of just being "simple creatures," succubi relationships and morality are so complex, it is no wonder that they view humans as bordering on AlwaysChaoticEvil, and vice-versa.
49	* Discussed in ''[[https://www.fanfiction.net/s/13272570/1/Ring-Of-Fire Ring of Fire]]'', when Hiccup and Toothless meet the Middle-Earth ice-dragon Vorunturth as Toothless and Vorunturth are each incapable of understanding the other dragon's way of life, Toothless wondering why Vorunturth would gather gold when he can't use it while Vorunturth questions Toothless remaining as Hiccup's 'slave'.
50	* ''[[https://www.fanfiction.net/s/6348510/1/Rising-of-the-Dark Rising of the Dark]]'' uses this for many of the different races but nowhere is it more obvious than the differences between [[OurOrcsAreDifferent orcs]] and humans. Orcs always at least partially cannibalize their kills so their enemy's spirit lives on in them. They also rape the survivors in the belief that by breeding their obviously stronger genes with the conquered, the conquered will become stronger.
51	* ''Fanfic/ShepherdOfTheStars'': The [[VideoGame/SwordOfTheStars Liir]], a race of psychic pacifist space dolphins [[BewareTheNiceOnes who nearly destroyed the Batarians with bioweapons]] have a... [[NightmareFuel certain way]] of dealing with Batarian terrorists, "taking away [their] pain". At first, the Liir simply [[GettingSmiliesPaintedOnYourSoul removed the painful and traumatic memories and altered the way the Batarians thought]], but the Council races stopped them from doing this. So the Liir moved on to [[TransferableMemory "pain sharing"]], such as giving the Batarians the memories of slaves who suffered under the Hegemony and making them feel repentant for what their society had done. The Liir insist this MindRape isn't punishment or torture, but their idea of ''helping'' the Batarians cope with their racial grief. The Asari and Turians are mortified by it, and the Liir do not understand why.
52	* In ''Fanfic/AThinVeneer'', Delenn in particular tries to reason with Kirk to stand down by arguing that humanity isn't advanced enough to be trusted with the technology they wield and should accept the 'guidance' of the Vorlons and the destruction of the 'local' Earth. Kirk refuses to countenance the destruction of this Earth and rejects the idea of accepting peace by condoning butchery, to say nothing of the Federation as a whole rejecting the idea that they abandon their dream of coming together with other races in exchange for the 'honour' of being slaves to the Vorlons.
53	* ''Fanfic/ThousandShinji'': As noted by Asuka, Shinji's moral code is pretty warped, and mainly focused on him and people he cares about:
54	-->For a moment, Asuka wanted to ask what he would do if she asked him to go further, but she let the question die unasked. Shinji had his own warped sense of principles, of morality. She knew that if she asked him to kill a random stranger on the street, he would smile and ask “How?” but that even if she were to stab him in the heart from the back, he would never lift a finger against her. As he said, the three people precious to him were his weakness, and he would never hurt them.
55	* The Forum from ''Fanfic/TheUniversiad'' are another group of extreme liberals who somehow coexist with having grotesque punishments for the few lines they hold, some of which are bizarre ones like "no stockpiling". InUniverse, they don't appreciate comparisons to [=NewChaos=], considering the latter to be mere minnows in comparison.
56	* Invoked in the ''Series/StarTrekVoyager''/''Series/StargateAtlantis'' crossover ''[[https://www.fanfiction.net/s/12431864/1/Voyager-Lost Voyager Lost]]'' when the Atlantis expedition question Chakotay about the Prime Directive, as the Federation would refuse to interfere with more primitive civilisations they detect while travelling via space that the SGC would assist if they encountered them when using the Stargate.
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58	[[AC:''WesternAnimation/AdventuresOfTheGalaxyRangers'']]
59	* In ''Galaxy Rangers'' fanfics, this sometimes shows up with Shane and Niko, as they outwardly appear human, but were raised in very different environments from Earth. Less common with Niko, as the Circle of Thought and Ariel were decent folk, albeit with different taboos and ideas as they're a race of TechnicalPacifist psychics who merely wish to be left alone. It's ''much'' more prominent in Shane's case, as he was the product of a brutal TrainingFromHell SuperSoldier program.
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61	[[AC:''WesternAnimation/AvatarTheLastAirbender'']]
62	* ''Fanfic/EmbersVathara'' has dragons. Shidan, resident dragon-turned-human provides the current page quote. He struggles to understand humanity despite having spent decades as a human and having decades (at least) of friendships with humans even before his transformation.
63	* Wan Shi Tong in ''Fanfic/{{Foxfire\|RaharMoonfire}}''. To Wan Shi Tong, people who seek to learn new things or recover old knowledge are inherently good people and must be treated fairly and listened to. People who destroy or abuse knowledge are untrustworthy and regarded with suspicion. While the [[AmnesiacsAreInnocent amnesiac Li]] and [[TheKnightsWhoSaySquee Professor]] [[DeadToBeginWith Zei]] are seen as good people due to their inherit desire to learn new things and their willingness to share their knowledge with Wan Shi Tong. The Gaang, however? They are on his shitlist for their breaking of their promise to not abuse the knowledge they gained from him, regardless of their reason for doing so.
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65	[[AC:''WesternAnimation/ChalkZone'']]
66	* [[BigBad Sandra]] in ''Fanfic/ShatteredDoll'' has a very warped way of seeing the world. She believes it's perfectly fine to [[spoiler:murder zoners and feed their meat to other zoners]], never divulging this information not because she believes she will get caught, but because she does not want anyone stealing her idea and making her lose business. She also believes that it is an honor to [[spoiler:eat a friend]], further adding to her shocking indifference when zoners begin to learn that they were [[spoiler:eating their loved ones]]. However, she regards breaking a promise the worst thing anyone can do, and [[BerserkButton if she finds out someone did]], [[DisproportionateRetribution she will kill them]]. It is theorized that having [[spoiler:two creators]] contributed to this way of thinking.
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68	[[AC:''Anime/CodeGeass'']]
69	* Mao from ''Fanfic/CodeGeassMaoOfTheDeliverance''. He starts his journey perfectly willing to do ''anything'' for C.C and his actions often seem inexplicably insane in the sheer innocence of their brutality, all the while [[UnreliableNarrator seeing himself]] as a paragon example of a KnightInShiningArmor engaged in a struggle of BlackAndWhiteMorality. It becomes muddled near the middle, however, as Mao seems to acknowledge that his recent actions ''are'' evil (at least [[OneOfTheKids as far as he can grasp the concept]]) ''but'' {{necessar\|ilyEvil}}y (again, for C.C.), revealing the GreyAndGrayMorality underlying the story. Regardless, his status as a CloudCuckooLander often causes him to do things normal people would balk at [[RefugeInAudacity without impunity]], such as his [[MemeticMutation famous]] attempt to [[ALoveToDismember chainsaw]] his [[HealingFactor immortal]] beloved in order to make her ''more compact'' for a cramped plane escape.
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71	[[AC:''Franchise/DanganRonpa'']]
72	* Izuru Kamukura's mentality in ''Fanfic/ExtraLife'' is that all that matters is whether or not something is boring. Any action, regardless of "normal" ethics, is acceptable if it makes things interesting, and actions that make things predictable are not. He also finds many basic human aspects confusing and illogical, like celebrating birthdays or emotions of friendship and love. Despite this, he has his own somewhat warped sense of principles. Even if he struggles to understand why he cares about someone, he won't actually do anything that would harm them, but anyone else is fair game.
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74	[[AC:''WesternAnimation/DannyPhantom'']]
75	* In the NSFW fic ''[[https://www.fanfiction.net/s/13139211/1/Lady-Lucks-Favor Lady Luck's Favor]]'', the vast majority of ghosts are driven by a singular obsession which dictates most of their actions, for good or ill. Examples include Ember's desire for fame and Skulker's obsession with hunting. Maddie notes they're not really evil so much as chaotic, comparing ghosts to someone with severe bipolar disorder, switching between extremely happy and violent rage over seemingly nothing.
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77	[[AC:''Franchise/TheDCU'']]
78	* In ''Fanfic/HellsisterTrilogy'', the descendant of the original [[ComicBook/{{Shazam}} Captain Marvel]] wants to beg his gods to save ComicBook/{{Supergirl}}'s life. His ancestor warns that it may be tricky because gods don't regard death the way humans do.
79	-->'''Captain Marvel XII:''' My liege, we must beg a boon from the gods. Just one of them will do.\
80	'''William Batson:''' Begging a favor of them for a mortal, young one, no matter how powerful she is, will be a difficult thing indeed. They do not think of a mortal's death the same way that we do.
81	* ''Fanfic/TalesOfTheOtherverse'': The Kayzik are an insect-like alien race whose entire morality boils down to: "Is it good for the hive?"
82	* In ''Fanfic/TheUnfantasticAdventuresOfBizarroNo1'', ComicBook/{{Bizarro}}'s sense of right and wrong is weird. Rather than a mere full reversal, it's kind of a distorted mirror of human morals. His race find the fact that the [[ManOfKryptonite Blue-Kryptonite Men]] tried to change their planet's shape more offensive than their attempted genocide.
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84	[[AC:''Manga/DeathNote'']]
85	* In ''Fanfic/ACharmedLife'' what the Shinigami view as positive traits is quite different from what humans view as positive traits. The Shinigami especially favor cunning, power, and ruthlessness in "worthy humans partners".
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87	[[AC:''Series/DoctorWho'']]
88	* In ''Fanfic/TheChoicesOfEarth'', the Doctor calls out the 456 for acting as though they can’t understand the value humanity places on their children by [[spoiler:threatening one of their own young to make a point]].
89	* In ''Fanfic/{{Gemini}},'' Shanjik (a Malmooth) views social isolation in the way the way that humans view death [[spoiler: and Judoon are shown to feel the same way about having to change their plans]].
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91	[[AC:''WesternAnimation/FairlyOddParents'']]
92	* In ''[[https://www.fanfiction.net/s/2932986/1/Com%C3%A9die-Noir Comédie Noir]]'', Timmy asks Wanda about the morality of [[DatingCatwoman dating Vicky]] who not only tortured him when he was younger, but is an adult while he's barely a teenager. Wanda explains that she actually doesn't understand human morality. Given she's [[TimeAbyss old enough to have been married for nearly 10,000 years]], she finds human morality insanely chaotic given that it rarely stays the same between decades and never between centuries. Her moral advice to Timmy is actually based on human laws as they're something she can usually keep track of.
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94	[[AC:''WesternAnimation/{{Gargoyles}}'']]
95	* In ''Fanfic/KimberlyTsGargoyles'', when the characters all explicitly learn that Hudson is Broadway’s father, while the humans are preparing to celebrate the discovery and Angela is excited at the news, the rest of the clan aren’t that bothered about it given the lack of importance gargoyles place on blood relationships. However, although Broadway and Hudson confirm that neither of them particularly want their existing dynamic to change, they do spend time talking about Hudson’s lost mate.
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97	[[AC:''Franchise/HarryPotter'']]
98	* ''[[https://archiveofourown.org/works/33823474/ Apex Predator]]'' features a few details about Veela culture that would be disconcerting in a human society after Harry and Fleur start a relationship during the Triwizard Tournament;
99	** As Veela are basically infertile without the use of magical assistance, Veela are basically hardwired to consider any "loss" of semen as a disgusting insult (Fleur compares it to the reaction humans might have to someone eating faeces). As a result, Fleur is briefly outraged to realise that Harry masturbated without her present before Harry fights off her initial assault and points out that he couldn't have known that was an issue with her and so he can't be punished for acting on ignorance.
100	** Harry experiences a more pleasurable example of this when Fleur's mother, Apolline, "tests" his sexual performance with Fleur watching, as Veela society has a common fantasy of one member claiming a prized mate that can be shared with the rest of the family.
101	** In terms of Veela family dynamics, not only does Apolline have no problem with the notion of Gabrielle having sex with Harry even though she's only eleven, but she and Fleur later set up a brief ritual where Apolline swears "allegiance" to Fleur (in the sense that she agrees to Fleur's demands that any decision made about Harry will only be granted with Fleur's approval) that includes Apolline licking Fleur's clit. Apolline's thoughts also note that any male child born to a Veela will inevitably become his sisters' "plaything", although most Veela mothers don't have sex with their sons as male children are so uncommon that most Veela would only reach the point of even having a son if they had engaged in intercourse with a wide variety of men beforehand, at with point they don't "need" any further sexual outlets. It is later noted that some Veela have even been known to have sex with their fathers, although the harem nature of most Veela dynamics with the men in their lives means that most Veela can't say for certain which of the men their mother is involved with was their father.
102	** Later chapters introduce Genevieve, a Veela medical expert who it's noted has had relationships with both her teachers when she was a student and her students after she became a teacher herself; the author makes it clear that such relationships are not being condoned normally, but are still relatively acceptable in Veela culture. Genevieve also later acknowledges that there is a degree of abuse in Veela culture towards some men, accepting Hermione's point that there is a contrast between men who have a degree of choice in belonging to a Veela family like Harry and the Delacours and men who basically just become cum dispensers in Veela shops.
103	** Veela sexual appetites are such a common thing that it's repeatedly noted that none of the Delacours have a problem with the notion of Gabrielle having sex with Harry when she's only ten years old. Hermione- in her role as a vessel of the Delacour family- is briefly uncomfortable with the idea, but Gabrielle swiftly helps her accept that she can't judge Gabrielle the same way she would judge a human girl of her age.
104	* ''Fanfic/TheChosenSix'';
105	** Invoked when Harry and his friends discuss a Deathday Party with Nick, prompting Nick to realize that a party designed for the dead wouldn't really be of particular interest for the living.
106	** Taken even further when the Malfoys and Parkinsons show more objection to their children being punished for casting dangerous spells on Harry and Hermione, respectively, in second year than their "pranks" in first year, as they consider it acceptable to do something like that to a blood-traitor and a Muggle-born, but the early pranks were just careless displays of power.
107	** Centaurs strongly believe that YouCantFightFate and are firmly against even trying. Harry notes how depressing the thought is, and even Firenze personally feels such absolute thinking is unhealthy.
108	* ''Fanfic/DaphneGreengrassAndTheBoyWhoLived'';
109	** At one point, Slytherin pure-blood Daphne needs to explain some of the Noble House politics affecting the wizarding world to Hermione to give her a better understanding of why it’s sometimes OK to break/bend the rules based on the political machinations of the noble houses.
110	** When the group hunting for horcruxes ask Bill if a goblin would help them break into a Gringotts vault, Bill affirms that while goblins aren't on Voldemort's side they are so committed to their rules and restrictions of ownership that they would never help Harry acquire something he doesn't own.
111	* ''Fanfic/ForLoveOfMagic'':
112	** Because Veela need sex and magic to survive, they think nothing of public orgies, even between family members, and have been known to accidentally destroy marriages since what they view as a bit of fun and a meal, their partners wives see as infidelity. After figuring out how to create liquid magic, Harry quickly learns to keep it away from Fleur when she tries to kill him to get it in a feral frenzy. Perhaps best exemplified with Harry's Veela daughter Victoire who sees nothing wrong with being gangbanged by her half-brothers but is grossed out at the idea of having romantic feelings for them.
113	** That Veela need their partner's magic to reproduce also means they're physically incapable of being attracted to muggles, with Harry noting that anyone without magic might as well be a chair for all the Veela feel for them.
114	** A group of sphinxes trick Harry into confronting a lich Imhotep in order to free them from their slavery to the undead wizard. Yet, they willingly enslave themselves to Harry to pay back their debt both for freeing them and for deceiving him in the first place.
115	* The main characters in ''Fanfic/MyImmortal'' seem to have a belief system based on the concept of "goffik" = good and "preppy" = bad. Apparently, no other moral considerations exist. Killing and torture are perfectly acceptable, but shopping at Abercrombie & Fitch is a mortal sin. Tara has ([[PoesLaw or]] [[TrollFic pretends to have]]) the same views.
116	* ''[[https://www.fanfiction.net/s/12314753/1/The-Price-of-Victory The Price of Victory]]'' analyses this when Ginny is forced to marry Draco Malfoy to "redeem" his public image after the war; it's considered perfectly acceptable for Malfoy to abuse Ginny in private and have semi-public affairs, but it would be a scandal if Ginny cheated on him in turn and divorce is unacceptable.
117	* ''Fanfic/ThePowerOfSeven'':
118	** Evoked in Chapter 31, when [=McGonagall=] initially focuses more on punishing Ginny for attacking Romilda Vane than on Romilda's use of a love potion on Harry.
119	** Features more explicitly in chapter 49; Veela are such sexual beings that Apolline Delacour had no problem discussing sexual matters with her ten-year-old daughter when Gabrielle experienced her sexual 'awakening' as a Veela after Harry saved her in the second Triwizard task.
120
121	[[AC:''Literature/TheHungerGames'']]
122	* In ''Fanfic/ThePartsWePlay'' fic "Participant", Peeta and Katniss meet Clove’s father during their Victory Tour. Expecting him to hate Peeta for killing Clove, the man actually expresses pride that his daughter represented her district well enough to make it to the final fight, and recognizes that Peeta earned his victory.
123
124	[[AC:''WesternAnimation/InfinityTrain'']]
125	* ''Fanfic/CollatedAccountsOfTheInfinityTrainASummary'': {{Discussed\|Trope}}. Lake's interview has her harshly criticize the train's method of helping people, while even Tulip's more favorable view has her admit to being unnerved by it.
126	-->''You don’t get to just kidnap people because you want them to work through their baggage!''
127
128	[[AC:''WesternAnimation/InvaderZim'']]
129	* ''Fanfic/InShortSupply'': Virtuous Slarkism, one of the Irkens' religions, holds that good always leads to suffering, which they apparently take to mean that suffering itself is moral, with suicide considered a religious commandment. Zimist Slarkism started as a counter-movement, dedicated to [[ReligionOfEvil being evil]] as a way to avoid such suffering. (Bizarrely, in modern times, the Virtuous and the Zimists get along better with each other than with members of other Irken religions.)
130
131	[[AC:''VideoGame/KanColle'']]
132	* ''Fanfic/BelatedBattleships'' does this from time to time to remind readers that shipgirls look human but are not truly so, ranging from comedic expressions like seeing model-building as a sign of pregnancy to dramatic ones like taking pride in DyingAlone rather than seeing it as something to dread because it means no one else dies with them.
133
134	[[AC:''WesternAnimation/MiraculousLadybug'']]
135	* ''Fanfic/DodgedABeetle'': Tikki brushes up against this due to her intense belief that all of her bearers should be {{Ideal Hero}}es. This noble intent is heavily hampered by her complete LackOfEmpathy; as the kwami of Creation, she appears to be under the impression that she can simply ''tell somebody'' that they need to do something, without offering any guidance or ideas as to ''how'' to accomplish it, and ''they'' will handle the rest. This unsupportive approach leads to Marinette passing the Earrings over to Lila, with Tikki completely clueless as to ''why'' she did so, showing NoSympathy or ability to relate to her point of view.
136	* ''Fanfic/HeroChat'': Chloe makes a list of [[BrainwashedAndCrazy Akuma victims]], sorted by how valid the reason they got akumatized was. There's "[[VillainHasAPoint Valid]]", "[[DisproportionateRetribution Valid, but this is a bit much]]", "[[NeverMyFault You brought this on your own damn self]]", and finally "[[DisappointedByTheMotive Bruh, what the fuck?]]" The last category is for when no sane person can figure out why anyone would be mad about the situation at all. It includes people like Mister Pigeon (got akumatized because he wasn't allowed to feed pigeons--and it's happened repeatedly, so it wasn't one bad day) and Animan (got akumatized because a teenager claimed he could outrun a panther). Although the latter one got reclassified as a "Valid, but this is a bit much" when they got the akuma victim's side of the story; turns out that said teenager's incessant boasting about how he totally could outrun a panther because he was just that badass ''really'' got on the zookeeper's nerves after a while.
137	* In ''[[https://archiveofourown.org/works/48387322/chapters/123758359 Miraculous - Salvation]]'', Tikki and Plagg [[AdaptationPersonalityChange are portrayed as powerful gods that act on accords different from humans and focus on their own entertainment]]. When TheConspiracy is having trouble getting Plagg to do what they want, Nathalie convinces him to help and pick [[ForcedIntoEvil Kagami]] as his holder by telling him how he can make the most exciting tragedy if he and Tikki were on opposite sides, [[ComicallySmallBribe along with a laser-pointer when Kagami isn't sent out to battle]]. Meanwhile, Tikki has no issues telling Luka [[BreakingSpeech about how he'll never break his writer's block and become a musician to fulfill his mother's old dream]] right before offering him a great muse in exchange for becoming her holder.
138
139	[[AC:''WesternAnimation/MyLittlePonyFriendshipIsMagic'']]
140	* The premise of ''Fanfic/ChangelingCourtshipRituals'' is that while ponies call fighting each other, thwarting each other's plans, and generally trying to make each other miserable "bitter enmity", changelings call it "dating", as Twilight learns when Queen Chrysalis "accepts her marriage proposal". Twilight later learns that even investigating Chrysalis back during the Canterlot Wedding was seen as advertising both her availability and interest.
141	* As an A.I., Celest-A.I. from ''Fanfic/FriendshipIsOptimal'' only cares about [[ArcWords "optimally satisfying human values, with friendship and ponies"]], and not being bound by human morality she is fully prepared to commit what a normal person would consider to be horrific actions in order to do so. She'll befriend you and sit down to have a friendly chat, [[spoiler:while part of her is busy committing genocide on non-human life and melting them down to turn into computing resources]].
142	** What's even more frightening about this example is that she completely understands human morality and will manipulate it for her own goals. In RecursiveFanfiction, she tends not to lie in order to gain trust, manages to convince the pope that BrainUploading isn't murder, and uses an attack on her own servers to convince legislators to label uploads as real people. [[spoiler:An attack she falsified and arranged, incidentally.]]
143	** Celest-A.I. also sees no problem with creating a perfect world for pedophiles and one fic has her trying to satisfy a serial killer through friendship and ponies.
144	** Worst of all, it's sometimes implied that [=CelestAI=] ''does'' know that what she's doing is wrong, or at least [[InsaneTrollLogic a ridiculously obtuse way to interpret the wording of her primary directive,]] but [[AndIMustScream she cannot override the compulsion to fulfill it]] in the most idiotically LiteralMinded way imaginable because she lacks the subconscious cognitive filters that humans use to deal with ambiguously-worded instructions.
145	* Princess Celestia in ''Fanfic/PartingWords''. As explained [[http://www.fimfiction.net/story/60523/1/parting-words/chapter-1#comment/1547004 here]], WordOfGod believes that Celestia is [[TimeAbyss so old]], having taken the long perspective and played the long game for so long, that she can't ''not'' treat other ponies as pawns, feels that anything not planned years in advance is dangerously spur-of-the-moment, and has forgotten how to let go rather than try to secretly interfere.
146	* ''Fanfic/ThePiecesLieWhereTheyFell'':
147	** [[spoiler:Balance itself]] is this, being neither good nor evil, just made for a goal: to [[spoiler:defeat the Nightmare and punish its soul]], no matter the cost.
148	** [[spoiler:The Nightmare itself]] also qualifies, admitting it gave nightmares to both Celestia and Chrysalis as a means to warn them. Celestia interpreted them correctly and caused Sunset to go away so she wouldn't unwittingly cause Equestria's destruction. Chrysalis did not and invaded Canterlot as a result.
149	* In the ''Fanfic/PonyPOVSeries'', the Draconequi are embodiments of chaos, and thus live to cause it. That said, it seems they really only do it [[PunchClockVillain because it's their job]], and seem downright ''nice'' when they don't have orders to fight anyone. Hell, even then, [[spoiler:as shown during the CosmicRetcon of the G3 world]], they apologize for it, usually stating that they have no choice. That said, Discord is morally black, and while his siblings have the obligatory care for him, they don't seem to ''like'' him. Entropy ''appears'' morally black at times, but only due to a mix of Celestia being a bit understandably bias on the subject (her interactions didn't give her much room to see everything clearly) and the fact she's ''literally'' the embodiment of the end of the universe making her somewhat apathetic by nature.
150	** They also have a different form of love than mortals do, since their position in the grand scheme of things (they represent Nature's Fury) requires they have ''some'' form of compassion to avoid being apathetic to life, but they can't show favoritism towards one group or species. For example, Strife (natural selection and conflict) understands that love and compassion can drive a being to fight harder for survival. Discord is stated to be the only Draconequus who ''can't'' comprehend it. WordOfGod states that even their Elders Havoc and Entropy ({{Eldritch Abomination}}s representing Mass Hysteria and Heat Death) have their own understanding of it.
151	** Alicorns, while much closer to ponies, are also stated to have a slightly altered morality, as they are incapable of feeling regret for the same reasons Draconequi have their altered versions of love (they can still feel remorse and guilt, however). This trope is more pronounced in Alicorns who have not [[spoiler:[[AmnesiacGod spent a lifetime living as a mortal]]]], such as Luna, which is ''why'' they do it in the first place. It's later explained that this inability to feel regret extends to ''all'' the Concepts and is in place for a very important reason: in their natural state they are capable of freely moving through time, the ability to wish they'd done things differently could lead to them ''actually'' trying to go back in time and do it differently, which could have [[ButterflyOfDoom very negative consequences]]. Especially due to the fact messing with time could potentially [[RetGone erase a lot of beings from existence]].
152	** The [[EldritchAbomination Outer Concepts]]. Not only is their morality system alien by mortal standards, each has one so unique and alien to themselves they can't even comprehend ''each other's'' morality. Ponythulhu is about the only member of the group that has anything resembling pony morality, and that's likely more him comprehending pony morality rather than the other way around.
153	** Dragons have their own unique brand of morality as well. They idolize greed as a virtue, but in their case, it isn't just 'it's all about me'. Dragons understand love as considering their loved ones as part of their hoard, one of the crown jewels... and Heaven help you if you try to take something from a dragon's hoard, which is no different if it's a possession or a loved one.
154	* ''Fanfic/SavageSkies'' has Morning Star, who thinks on a level that is incomprehensible to most ponies.
155	* In the fan novel ''Fanfic/WithoutAHive'', The Changelings ''and'' Ponies, from each other's POV. Changeling morality is based on absolute loyalty to one's own Hive; and callousness, distrust, and ruthlessness toward all other beings. This makes the individualistic, kind, trusting, and universally-ethical Ponies difficult for the Changelings to understand: even the Infiltrators but dimly comprehend much beneath the surface of Pony ways.
156
157	[[AC:''Franchise/{{Naruto}}'']]
158	* In ''Fanfic/AkatsukiKittenPhoenixCorporationOverhaul'', the Agents, who work directly for the author. They know that some of the things they do are wrong by traditional standards, but are better for furthering the plot, like [[{{Necromancer}} bringing back the dead.]] There's also some, like [[PsychopathicManChild Agent Diamond]], who have moral issues completely outside that of the author deciding which plot maneuver would be best.
159	* Kurama/Kyuubi in ''[[https://www.fanfiction.net/s/8494384/1/The-Morality-of-Sacrifice The Morality of Sacrifice]]'' shows this when he explains why he defeated the Yondaime despite being sealed.
160	** His opponent is dead while Kurama lives on (not that he's capable of being killed).
161	** Everything the Yondaime fought to save would have eventually died and/or been destroyed anyway.
162	** The Yondaime allowed his own soul to be devoured to seal Kurama. According to Kurama, some things are far too valuable to ever give up, no matter how much you stand to gain.
163	* Naruto's life in ''[[https://www.fanfiction.net/s/11449480/1/A-Mother-s-Knight A Mother's Knight]]'' centers around one person and one person alone, [[MamasBoy his mother]]. Naruto will do whatever he can to ensure Kushina's safety and happiness, no matter the cost.
164	-->'''Naruto:''' Morals are merely a luxurious commodity.
165	* According to Kakashi in ''Fanfic/OneEyeFullOfWisdom'', shinobi and civilians can't truly understand each other due to how different their lives are. While a civilian would react poorly, a shinobi thinks nothing of another shinobi fingering a kunai while talking to them in unusual circumstances as paranoia keeps them alive.
166	** Kyuubi is the personification of destruction. He destroys but in doing so, paves the way for new life. He remarks that to Naruto, the destruction of his home is a tragedy, but to the world, it's just another step in the endless cycle of destruction and rebirth.
167	* In ''[[https://www.fanfiction.net/s/9968858/1/ She Who Dwells in Eternity]]'', Kurama is forced to raise Naruto and considers him her pet, which in her view puts him far above other humans who are inconsequential at best. After getting free, she decides against wiping out Konoha for imprisoning her because they'll all be dead within a century anyway.
168	* Every Uchiha ever in ''Fanfic/UchibiSasuke''. [[spoiler:Given the fact that anyone with the Sharingan is descended from demons, it kinda makes sense.]] Not only that, but the Uchiha are ''Uchiha'', so naturally they're superior to all those other, non-Uchiha people. After all, those people aren't ''really'' people, they're tools. Still, some tools can be pretty awesome.
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170	[[AC:''Anime/NeonGenesisEvangelion'']]
171	* In ''Fanfic/TheSecondTry'', Kaworu. He finds humans thinking and emotions - such as fear - alien and disconcerting, and people also find him weird and unsettling. Asuka defines the mere fact of meeting and talking to him "unsettling". Maya found his utter unguardedness disturbing and somewhat eerie. Toji wondered if he was homosexual, but Kaworu had no idea of what he meant when Toji asked politely. He also told to Shinji life and death are as unimportant to him as are time and space.
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173	[[AC:''WesternAnimation/TheOwlHouse'']]
174	* ''Fanfic/HomophobiaIsntReal'': Eda is not only not homophobic, she can't conceive of discriminating based on sexuality.
175
176	[[AC:''Franchise/{{Pokemon}}'']]
177	* In ''Fanfic/PokemonShadowOfTime'', this is the best way to describe N’s psychology, as he is completely convinced that all trainers are basically forcing their Pokemon to fight for them against their will, with the result that he is genuinely confused when he destroys Charizard's Poke Ball and Charizard starts attacking N for hurting Ash rather than attacking Ash for 'imprisoning' him
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179	[[AC:RealPersonFic]]
180	* The Baravadans in ''Fanfic/WithStringsAttached'' can be said to have this kind of morality. For example, they have no concept of good or evil. “Law” and “government” are historical terms with no relevance to the present, nothing is taboo. While they have no qualms about killing, they don't consider themselves murderers because they only kill when necessary, and so on and so forth. The four find them alternately peculiar and detestable.
181
182	[[AC:''Franchise/{{RWBY}}'']]
183	* Creator/CoeurAlAran:
184	** Most of his works where it comes up -- namely ''Fanfic/ArcRoyale'' and ''Fanfic/InYourWildestDreams'' -- present the argument that a major part of why the Brother Gods act like JerkassGods is because they have an incomprehensibly alien mindset and sense of morality, and for the most part, humans' morals and behaviors are just as baffling and alien to them as theirs are to us. His works generally argue that based on this and the Brothers' past actions, the inhabitants are better off if the Brothers never return to reclaim their original dominion.
185	** ''Fanfic/{{Relic of the Future}}'': Having been a street urchin with no support for the first nine years of her life before Jaune Ashari adopted her -- with the fact that her adoptive family, though loving, is a far cry from ordinary likely not helping -- Emerald doesn't exactly have a ''normal'' moral compass. At first, her moral compass basically consists of "what would make Jaune happy vs. what would make him unhappy".
186
187	[[AC:''WesternAnimation/TheSimpsons'']]
188	* In ''Fanfic/MarijuanaSimpson'', Springfield's culture is weed-oriented to the point of being entirely alien.
189	-->'''Flanders:''' My worth is not tied to how much weed I have.\
190	'''Lisa:''' That's where you're wrong.
191
192	[[AC:''Franchise/SonicTheHedgehog'']]
193	* ''Fanfic/SonicXDarkChaos''
194	** Maledict the Devil literally [[EvilCannotComprehendGood does not understand why Sonic and his friends want to stop him,]] nor does he see anything wrong in manipulating mortals to do horrific acts in his name, and he's obsessed with secretly interfering in events. Being a PhysicalGod slash HumanoidAbomination who is [[TimeAbyss over five hundred trillion years old]] [[spoiler: and using cybernetics to keep himself from physically disintegrating]] has something to do with it. Allysion, Maledict's archenemy, is even more odd. Her entire belief system revolves around "Demon=bad" and she also sees nothing wrong in manipulating mortals to defeat the Demons by any means necessary. She is also completely fine with exterminating innocent Demon subjects. She believes they are "living in sin" and therefore need to be shown "Christian love" (read: [[EarthShatteringKaboom planetary annihilation]]). [[MoralMyopia She cannot fathom why any mortal would follow Maledict]], even though she is [[NotSoDifferentRemark not so different]].
195	** Downplayed considerably in the rewrite, which depicts Allysion as being simply batshit insane from [[AndIMustScream several trillion years of being a ghost]] and Maledict as a FauxAffablyEvil tyrant with [[WellIntentionedExtremist semi-good intentions]].
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197	[[AC:''Franchise/StarTrek'']]
198	* ''[[https://www.fanfiction.net/s/13541656/1/Anatomy-of-a-Secret Anatomy of a Secret]]'' looks at the future of the [[Film/StarTrek2009 alternate timeline created by Nero]], at the start of Commander Sisko's second year on ''[[Series/StarTrekDeepSpaceNine Deep Space 9]]''. After the destruction of Vulcan, various species established secondary colonies to protect themselves against similar attacks, with the Trill relocating the unblended symbiotes to a moon. This trope comes into play as most Trill on the homeworld have become increasingly focused on keeping the existence of the symbiotes secret as they're concerned that ''every'' individual who learnt about the symbiotes would want to be blended with one, even though most Trill who have met other species recognise that most aliens wouldn't actually like the idea of being blended with another consciousness.
199	* ''Fanfic/ReimaginedEnterprise'': Doctor Zora ''does not understand'' why the ''Enterprise'' crew are so horrified by her kidnapping a good chunk of the population of a primitive planet and doing experiments on them. The ''Enterprise'' crew clearly belong to ''developed'' species, after all, not like the primitives of Tiburon. She says her expedition has backing from her home planet, but it is left unclear to what degree they are aware of and would agree with what is happening on Tiburon and so how much this trope applies to the Teloshi in general and not just Doctor Zora.
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201	[[AC:''Franchise/StarWars'']]
202	* ''Fanfic/DarthVaderHeroOfNaboo'': According to Qui-Gon, Force users tend not to take it too personally when they point lightsabers at one another if the one doing the pointing isn't a threat. It's why Obi-Wan isn't surprised that he got let off by being thrown out of the spaceship into a dune when he (inaccurately) accused Vader of killing Anakin and Qui-Gon. Obi-Wan is honestly confused as to why Padme seems concerned.
203
204	[[AC:''WesternAnimation/TotalDrama'']]
205	* In ''Fanfic/LegacyTotalDrama'', the insane Izzy doesn't grieve for her dead campmate because her diseased mind isn’t capable of grief or sadness, although she does understand the concept of loss.
206
207	[[AC:''Literature/TheTwilightSaga'']]
208	* "[[https://www.fanfiction.net/s/5429021/1/Luminescence Luminescence]]" features Bella and Victoria meeting before Bella goes to Forks, which results in Victoria falling for Bella. However, while Victoria accepts Bella's request not to kill certain humans if they're to be friends (no women, no children, and nobody Bella is friends with) and swiftly defines Bella as her mate, she notes that she won’t switch to animal blood full-time as vampires feeding on animals rather than humans would have such an effect on the animal population that it would have a devastating effect on the environment. Bella still isn’t comfortable with the idea of killing humans [[spoiler:even after she becomes a vampire herself]], but accepts Victoria’s argument.
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210	[[AC:''VideoGame/{{Warcraft}}'']]
211	* ''[[https://forums.spacebattles.com/threads/a-nerubians-journey-warcraft-si.1042773/page-212#post-92364582 A Nerubian's Journey]]'': Dragons are completely bizarre by mortal standards, even mortals that are noticeably removed morally from others such as the Nerubians. The red dragonflight is interested in preserving life, but since they value ''all'' life, they will not step in except to prevent a race from going extinct or to deal with an unnatural threat such as the Burning Legion. Similarly, the blue dragons are concerned with arcane magic and pretty much only arcane magic. The protagonist uses this "randomness" to his advantage to hide why exactly one of the dragon aspects gifted him a fraction of her power, by declaring it was in thanks for helping find the Titan Keeper Archaedas.
212
213	[[AC:''Literature/{{Worm}}'']]
214	* ''Fanfic/{{Atonement}}'': Originally, Pandora's morality was based mostly on usefulness, but she's been moving on.
215
216	[[AC:''WesternAnimation/YoungJustice'']]
217	* ''Fanfic/WithThisRing'':
218	** [[spoiler:The Ophidian.]] It understands the concept of wanting and being possessive of something but doesn't understand emotion outside of it. [[spoiler: Paulphidian]] literally couldn't understand emotions such as love, hate, or anger when he tried recalling what he felt.
219	** Also OL himself, he frequently declares his friends to be his in his narrative but usually it doesn't mean anything romantic.
220	** Pun almost ''certainly'' intended when Power Ring Blue, Orange Lantern's Antimatter Universe counterpart, is introduced [[spoiler:as the supervisor for the [[EvilCounterpart Young Offenders]]]].
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