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* On a diffrrent note, the final levels can really give this vibe, depending on the clan. It feels especially satisfying for a Toreador who's had to deal with other Kindred talking down to them or taking potshots at their clan [[OneManArmy to show the entire city how much ass a "whining posuer" can kick in one night.]]

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* On a diffrrent different note, the final levels can really give this vibe, depending on the clan. It feels especially satisfying for a Toreador who's had to deal with other Kindred talking down to them or taking potshots at their clan [[OneManArmy to show the entire city how much ass a "whining posuer" can kick in one night.]]
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* On a diffrrent note, the final levels can really give this vibe, depending on the clan. It feels especially satisfying for a Toreador who's had to deal with other Kindred talking down to them or taking potshots at their clan [[OneManArmy to show the entire city how much ass a "whining posuer" can kick in one night.]]
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** Another one can be given to non-Malkavian characters too. If the player digs into Ming Xiao'sconversation trees and picks the right option, they can all but have her admit she considers humans "lesser creatures" [[{{Hypocrite}} shortly after disparaging Kindred for doing the same.]] Needless to say, [[ChangeTheUncomfortableSubject she tries to get back to your business after that slip up.]]
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* All of the endings are awesome in their own way except the [=LaCroix=] and Kuei-jin endings. However, the Independent deserves special mention. Having been used as a pawn by everyone in Kindred society, the player character simply ''flips off'' the Anarchs when they try and recruit him. It's the ''best'' if you're ''Ventrue''. You're from the line of aristocrats, and you reject Lacroix, the Camarilla in addition to the Anarchs.

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* All of the endings are awesome in their own way except the [=LaCroix=] and Kuei-jin endings. However, the Independent deserves special mention. Having been used as a pawn by everyone in Kindred society, the player character simply ''flips off'' the Anarchs when they try and recruit him. It's the ''best'' if you're ''Ventrue''. You're from the line of aristocrats, and you reject Lacroix, the Camarilla in addition to the Anarchs. Watching a Malkavian give Nines the bird is fairly awesome in its own right, too; under normal circumstances, their insanity would compel them to say something either straight out of Cloud Cuckooland or downright AxeCrazy, but tonight, the voices all come to the same conclusion: Fuck the Kuei-jin, fuck the Anarchs, fuck the Camarilla, and ''most definitely'' fuck [=LaCroix=].
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* The confrontation between Gimble and the PC is its own moment of awesome. [[spoiler: A human serial killer encounters the ultimate predator.]]
* The player character [[spoiler: slaughtering their way through Chinatown]] when they finally put down [[spoiler: Ming Xiao]] once and for all. The fact that you finally get payback for the way she's treated them this entire game is extremely enjoyable.
** The player character on their Matrix-esque assault through [[spoiler: [=LaCroix=]'s forces]] up until the final confrontation when you [[spoiler: kill his Sheriff]] is just one long moment of awesome. It's one of the few games that imitate a player's typical reckless but awesome in-game planning.

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* The confrontation between Gimble and the PC is its own moment of awesome. [[spoiler: A human serial killer encounters the ultimate predator.]]
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* The player character [[spoiler: slaughtering their way through Chinatown]] Chinatown when they finally put down [[spoiler: Ming Xiao]] Xiao once and for all. The fact that you finally get payback for the way she's treated them this entire game is extremely enjoyable.
** The player character on their Matrix-esque assault through [[spoiler: [=LaCroix=]'s forces]] forces up until the final confrontation when you [[spoiler: kill his Sheriff]] Sheriff is just one long moment of awesome. It's one of the few games that imitate a player's typical reckless but awesome in-game planning.



* All of the endings are awesome in their own way [[spoiler: except the [=LaCroix=] and Kuei-jin endings]]. However, the Independent deserves special mention. Having been used as a pawn by everyone in Kindred society, the player character simply ''flips off'' the Anarchs when they try and recruit him. It's the ''best'' if you're ''Ventrue''. You're from the line of aristocrats, and you reject Lacroix, the Camarilla in addition to the Anarchs.

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* All of the endings are awesome in their own way [[spoiler: except the [=LaCroix=] and Kuei-jin endings]].endings. However, the Independent deserves special mention. Having been used as a pawn by everyone in Kindred society, the player character simply ''flips off'' the Anarchs when they try and recruit him. It's the ''best'' if you're ''Ventrue''. You're from the line of aristocrats, and you reject Lacroix, the Camarilla in addition to the Anarchs.



** The Anarch ending deserves a mention too; after spending the entire game being pushed around and plotted against by [=LaCroix=] and Ming Xiao, you and the rest of the Anarchs successfully drive the Camarilla and the Kuei-jin from the city and you personally get to kill Xiao. The kicker? [[spoiler: The sarcophagus that ends up blowing [=LaCroix=] to smithereens was planted by Jack (an informal member of the faction) all along.]]

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** The Anarch ending deserves a mention too; after spending the entire game being pushed around and plotted against by [=LaCroix=] and Ming Xiao, you and the rest of the Anarchs successfully drive the Camarilla and the Kuei-jin from the city and you personally get to kill Xiao. The kicker? [[spoiler: The sarcophagus that ends up blowing [=LaCroix=] to smithereens was planted by Jack (an informal member of the faction) all along.]]



* During the werewolf chase scene, [[spoiler:the player can lure the werewolf onto the observatory and kill it by crushing it to death with the doors.]] After the Lupine had been hyped up as pretty much invincible, it is really satisfying to do (and you can get extra experience from doing so as well).

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* During the werewolf chase scene, [[spoiler:the the player can lure the werewolf onto the observatory and kill it by crushing it to death with the doors.]] doors. After the Lupine had been hyped up as pretty much invincible, it is really satisfying to do (and you can get extra experience from doing so as well).



* The game is [[spoiler: a GambitRoulette by the last person you'd expect. Jack is behind a multiple stage plot to overthrow the Prince. Setting up a fake sarcophagus with C4, Jack manipulated both the Kueijin and [=LaCroix=] factions into wiping each other out. It's so impressive that ''Cain himself decides to help him out.'']] Pretty amazing for a guy who looks like a drugged out Hell's Angel.
** The fact he has a front row seat to watching the show with the [[spoiler: Ankaran sarcophagus' resident]] only helps the awesome.

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* The game is [[spoiler: a GambitRoulette by the last person you'd expect. Jack is behind a multiple stage plot to overthrow the Prince. Setting up a fake sarcophagus with C4, Jack manipulated both the Kueijin and [=LaCroix=] factions into wiping each other out. It's so impressive that ''Cain himself decides to help him out.'']] '' Pretty amazing for a guy who looks like a drugged out Hell's Angel.
** The fact he has a front row seat to watching the show with the [[spoiler: Ankaran sarcophagus' resident]] resident only helps the awesome.



** The second SugarWiki/MomentOfAwesome is when he made it out of Griffith Park alive and apparently [[spoiler: rips a Lupine's head clean off. Keep in mind that while you can also kill a werewolf]], you're only able to do so with the help of the heavy hydraulic doors of the Griffith Park Observatory. Nines was bowled right off a cliff by the one he fought, and had to face it in a one-on-one fight. Beyond that, you made it out of the park and back to your Santa Monica haven in time for the sun to come up mostly because Jack came to help you. For Nines to have survived, he not only managed to [[spoiler: kill a werewolf]], but he did so fast enough that he also managed to secure himself a safe and dark place to enter into torpor for the day.

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** The second SugarWiki/MomentOfAwesome is when he made it out of Griffith Park alive and apparently [[spoiler: rips a Lupine's head clean off. Keep in mind that while you can also kill a werewolf]], werewolf, you're only able to do so with the help of the heavy hydraulic doors of the Griffith Park Observatory. Nines was bowled right off a cliff by the one he fought, and had to face it in a one-on-one fight. Beyond that, you made it out of the park and back to your Santa Monica haven in time for the sun to come up mostly because Jack came to help you. For Nines to have survived, he not only managed to [[spoiler: kill a werewolf]], werewolf, but he did so fast enough that he also managed to secure himself a safe and dark place to enter into torpor for the day.



* The revelation of his true identity [[spoiler: as Caine, The Father of All Vampires.]] It says a lot about the character that this is the profession he's chosen.
** If you're a Malkavian character, there's a good chance that upon realising this [[spoiler: your character ''flips out'' and is reduced to screams and whimpers of "Oh god oh god oh god oh ''god!''". Caine lets you get it out of your system before continuing]].

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* The revelation of his true identity [[spoiler: as Caine, The Father of All Vampires.]] Vampires. It says a lot about the character that this is the profession he's chosen.
** If you're a Malkavian character, there's a good chance that upon realising this [[spoiler: your character ''flips out'' and is reduced to screams and whimpers of "Oh god oh god oh god oh ''god!''". Caine lets you get it out of your system before continuing]].
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* Believe it or not, Stanley Gimble, whom you speak to in the first bounty hunter sidequest while looking for Carson, has one in his backstory. You learn that rather than just modeling, he also provides prosthetic limbs. No, that's not the awesome part. The awesome part is that he's so dedicated to his work that when he realized that his prosthetic limbs were sub-par, he decided that his work would only improve if he knew what it was like to have to ''use'' one...so he deliberately ''cut off his own arm'' and replaced it with a prosthetic, just to improve his work! [[spoiler: Of course the awesome is mitigated slightly by the fact that he's also a horrible serial killer who lures people to his lair to slice them up for limbs.]]
* You wouldn't expect it from [[spoiler: Knox Harrington]] of all people, but [[spoiler: Knox can pull a fast one on the player if the player doesn't have a high enough Inspection statistic. You know that story Knox gives you about the Asian dude who keeps stalking him and freaking him out, which is what eventually leads you to kill an Asian vampire in the Foxy Boxes store? That's actually a lie. The Asian dude wasn't stalking Knox; Bertram Tung asked Knox to plant you that story to trick you into removing a spy that was getting in Bertram Tung's way. So if you don't figure that out, you've just been tricked ''by an idiot''! Surely a moment of awesome on Knox's part; not so much for the player.]]
** On the other hand, if you do see through him (and point it out), [[ObfuscatingStupidity he suddenly gets a whole lot smarter.]] Keep in mind, before he was [[spoiler:turned into Tung's ghoul]], he was the best bail bond bounty hunter in L.A.

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* Believe it or not, Stanley Gimble, whom you speak to in the first bounty hunter sidequest while looking for Carson, has one in his backstory. You learn that rather than just modeling, he also provides prosthetic limbs. No, that's not the awesome part. The awesome part is that he's so dedicated to his work that when he realized that his prosthetic limbs were sub-par, he decided that his work would only improve if he knew what it was like to have to ''use'' one...so he deliberately ''cut off his own arm'' and replaced it with a prosthetic, just to improve his work! [[spoiler: Of course the awesome is mitigated slightly by the fact that he's also a horrible serial killer who lures people to his lair to slice them up for limbs.]]
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* You wouldn't expect it from [[spoiler: Knox Harrington]] Harrington of all people, but [[spoiler: Knox can pull a fast one on the player if the player doesn't have a high enough Inspection statistic. You know that story Knox gives you about the Asian dude who keeps stalking him and freaking him out, which is what eventually leads you to kill an Asian vampire in the Foxy Boxes store? That's actually a lie. The Asian dude wasn't stalking Knox; Bertram Tung asked Knox to plant you that story to trick you into removing a spy that was getting in Bertram Tung's way. So if you don't figure that out, you've just been tricked ''by an idiot''! Surely a moment of awesome on Knox's part; not so much for the player.]]
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** On the other hand, if you do see through him (and point it out), [[ObfuscatingStupidity he suddenly gets a whole lot smarter.]] Keep in mind, before he was [[spoiler:turned turned into Tung's ghoul]], ghoul, he was the best bail bond bounty hunter in L.A.



** Therese/Jeanette's voice actress being able to [[spoiler: convincingly convey two radically different personalities, [[SplitPersonality sometimes simultaneously]]]].
** Nines' voice actor being able to convey the difference between [[spoiler: real Nines and Ming Xiao's imitation of Nines with his performance alone.]]
** The cabbie's voice actor slowly transitioning from a standard American accent into a classic [[spoiler: [[VampireVords Dracula-esque accent]] the longer the game goes on.]]

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** Therese/Jeanette's voice actress being able to [[spoiler: convincingly convey two radically different personalities, [[SplitPersonality sometimes simultaneously]]]].simultaneously]].
** Nines' voice actor being able to convey the difference between [[spoiler: real Nines and Ming Xiao's imitation of Nines with his performance alone.]]
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** The cabbie's voice actor slowly transitioning from a standard American accent into a classic [[spoiler: [[VampireVords Dracula-esque accent]] the longer the game goes on.]]
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* The assault on Hallowbrooks Hotel by wiping out the Sabbat that have been plaguing both you and the neighborhood, is very satisfying.

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* Gets two in the game. The first one is when he rescues your PC after they are ambushed by the Sabbat and beaten up. Nines manages to intimidate three Sabbat not by his sheer badassery but by pointing out ''he has a grenade in his pocket.'' When one of them calls him on it, he one-shots him over his shoulder. The second SugarWiki/MomentOfAwesome is when he apparently [[spoiler: rips a Lupine's head clean off.]]
** He brought the Lupine's head back ''as a trophy''.

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The first one is when he rescues your PC after they are ambushed by the Sabbat and beaten up. Nines manages to intimidate three Sabbat not by his sheer badassery but by pointing out ''he has a grenade in his pocket.'' When one of them calls tries to attack him on it, anyways, he one-shots them dead on the spot before they lay a finger on him over his shoulder. or you.
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The second SugarWiki/MomentOfAwesome is when he made it out of Griffith Park alive and apparently [[spoiler: rips a Lupine's head clean off.]]
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off. Keep in mind that while you can also kill a werewolf]], you're only able to do so with the help of the heavy hydraulic doors of the Griffith Park Observatory. Nines was bowled right off a cliff by the one he fought, and had to face it in a one-on-one fight. Beyond that, you made it out of the park and back to your Santa Monica haven in time for the sun to come up mostly because Jack came to help you. For Nines to have survived, he not only managed to [[spoiler: kill a werewolf]], but he did so fast enough that he also managed to secure himself a safe and dark place to enter into torpor for the day.
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** The ending where you join the Camarilla and become Strauss' [[TheDragon second in command]] is an awesome ending, because Strauss is more or less a ReasonableAuthorityFigure, at least as far as vampire politics go.

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** The ending where you join the Camarilla and become Strauss' [[TheDragon second in command]] is an awesome ending, because Strauss is more or less a ReasonableAuthorityFigure, at least as far as vampire politics go.go, and has generally treated the player far better than [=LaCroix=] ever did.
** The Anarch ending deserves a mention too; after spending the entire game being pushed around and plotted against by [=LaCroix=] and Ming Xiao, you and the rest of the Anarchs successfully drive the Camarilla and the Kuei-jin from the city and you personally get to kill Xiao. The kicker? [[spoiler: The sarcophagus that ends up blowing [=LaCroix=] to smithereens was planted by Jack (an informal member of the faction) all along.]]



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* The game's voice acting is all-around ''superb'', with natural but extremely nuanced performances that greatly enhance the experience. You can really tell the voice actors were both extremely talented and extremely well directed.

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* The game's voice acting is all-around ''superb'', with natural but extremely nuanced performances that greatly enhance the experience. You can really tell the voice actors chosen were both extremely very talented and extremely very well-directed. Such nuances include, but are not exclusive to:
** Therese/Jeanette's voice actress being able to [[spoiler: convincingly convey two radically different personalities, [[SplitPersonality sometimes simultaneously]]]].
** Nines' voice actor being able to convey the difference between [[spoiler: real Nines and Ming Xiao's imitation of Nines with his performance alone.]]
** The cabbie's voice actor slowly transitioning from a standard American accent into a classic [[spoiler: [[VampireVords Dracula-esque accent]] the longer the game goes on.]]
** VV's voice actress being able to toe the line between false flattery and honest admiration so
well directed. that players ''to this day'' aren't sure how genuine VV is actually supposed to be.
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* The player character [[spoiler: slaughtering their way through Chinatown]] when they finally put down [[spoiler: Ming Xiao]] once and for all. The fact that you finally get payback for the way she's treated her this entire game is extremely enjoyable.
** The player character on his Matrix-esque assault through [[spoiler: [=LaCroix=]'s forces]] up until the final confrontation when you [[spoiler: kill his Sheriff]] is just one long moment of awesome. It's one of the few games that imitate a player's typical reckless but awesome in-game planning.

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* The player character [[spoiler: slaughtering their way through Chinatown]] when they finally put down [[spoiler: Ming Xiao]] once and for all. The fact that you finally get payback for the way she's treated her them this entire game is extremely enjoyable.
** The player character on his their Matrix-esque assault through [[spoiler: [=LaCroix=]'s forces]] up until the final confrontation when you [[spoiler: kill his Sheriff]] is just one long moment of awesome. It's one of the few games that imitate a player's typical reckless but awesome in-game planning.
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* Then you have this, which is a subtle BadassBoast:
-->"You get 'em, boss! You give 'em one for Gary! If you should survive and need any information, come back and see me. I'm always here... [[TheOmnipresent and everywhere...]]"
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** On the other hand, if you do see through him (and point it out), [[ObfuscatingStupidity he suddenly gets a whole lot smarter.]]

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** On the other hand, if you do see through him (and point it out), [[ObfuscatingStupidity he suddenly gets a whole lot smarter.]]]] Keep in mind, before he was [[spoiler:turned into Tung's ghoul]], he was the best bail bond bounty hunter in L.A.
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* Gets two in the game. The first one is when he rescues your PC after they are ambushed by the Sabbat and beaten up. Nines manages to intimidate three Sabbat not by his sheer badassery but by pointing out ''he has a grenade in his pocket.'' When one of them calls him on it, he one-shots him over his shoulder. The second CrowningMomentOfAwesome is when he apparently [[spoiler: rips a Lupine's head clean off.]]

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* Gets two in the game. The first one is when he rescues your PC after they are ambushed by the Sabbat and beaten up. Nines manages to intimidate three Sabbat not by his sheer badassery but by pointing out ''he has a grenade in his pocket.'' When one of them calls him on it, he one-shots him over his shoulder. The second CrowningMomentOfAwesome SugarWiki/MomentOfAwesome is when he apparently [[spoiler: rips a Lupine's head clean off.]]
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*** Even better, as of patch 8.0. you can kill the werewolf manually. Dealing Aggravated damage(Tal'Mahe'Ra Blade, Flamethrower, Torch, Protean), having a large number of trinkets and elder vitae is required for it, homever. Still, when you do it, it means that you are one of the strongest motherfuckers around Los Angeles, save horrifyingly and absurdly powerful beings like Belial, Lucifer, and [[spoiler: Caine]]

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*** Even better, as of patch 8.0. you can kill the werewolf manually. Dealing Aggravated damage(Tal'Mahe'Ra aggravated damage (you can use Tal'Mahe'Ra Blade, Flamethrower, Torch, Protean), Protean Discipline to deal aggravated damage), having a large number of trinkets and elder vitae is required for it, homever. Still, when to get the job done. When you do it, it means that makes you feel like you are one of the strongest motherfuckers around greatest vampire in Los Angeles, save horrifyingly and absurdly powerful beings like Belial, Lucifer, and [[spoiler: Caine]]
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***Even better, as of patch 8.0. you can kill the werewolf manually. Dealing Aggravated damage(Tal'Mahe'Ra Blade, Flamethrower, Torch, Protean), having a large number of trinkets and elder vitae is required for it, homever. Still, when you do it, it means that you are one of the strongest motherfuckers around Los Angeles, save horrifyingly and absurdly powerful beings like Belial, Lucifer, and [[spoiler: Caine]]
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* This is a mostly off-screen example, but Romero's been fighting off zombies for most of his "ghoul-hood", before you ever show up. That's no small feat for someone who isn't as powerful as a vampire.[[note]]Though he may just be a Defender (a la HunterTheReckoning), so he's more of a BadassAbnormal.)[[/note]]

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* This is a mostly off-screen example, but Romero's been fighting off zombies for most of his "ghoul-hood", before you ever show up. That's no small feat for someone who isn't as powerful as a vampire.[[note]]Though he may just be a Defender (a la HunterTheReckoning), TabletopGame/HunterTheReckoning), so he's more of a BadassAbnormal.)[[/note]]
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** The tutorial itself may be one for Jack. In between serving as one heck of an EstablishingCharacterMoment for Jack and all his funny comments, it's one of those video game tutorials most players ''want'' to play every time through, which is rare in and by itself (the 2 XP you get for it do not hurt either, considering how rare it is in this game).
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** Not to mention the amount of XP you get is the highest you get in the game from a single act. It is as if the game itself acknowledges the awesomeness of your feat.
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* All of the endings are awesome in their own way [[spoiler: except the [=LaCroix=] and Kuei-jin endings]]. However, the Independent deserves special mention. Having been used as a pawn by everyone in Kindred society, the player character simply ''flips off' the Anarchs when they try and recruit him. It's the ''best'' if you're ''Ventrue''. You're from the line of aristocrats, and you reject Lacroix, the Camarilla in addition to the Anarchs.

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* All of the endings are awesome in their own way [[spoiler: except the [=LaCroix=] and Kuei-jin endings]]. However, the Independent deserves special mention. Having been used as a pawn by everyone in Kindred society, the player character simply ''flips off' off'' the Anarchs when they try and recruit him. It's the ''best'' if you're ''Ventrue''. You're from the line of aristocrats, and you reject Lacroix, the Camarilla in addition to the Anarchs.
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* Admit it, the Malkavian PC name dropping the the Yama Kings and the Demon Emperor of the Sixth Age to Ming Xiao as a TakeThat to her "Cainite superstition" mocking is just ''awesome''.

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* All of the endings are awesome in their own way [[spoiler: except the [=LaCroix=] and Kuei-jin endings]]. However, the Independent deserves special mention. Having been used as a pawn by everyone in Kindred society, the player character simply ''flips off' the Anarchs when they try and recruit him.
** Let's be real honest here. That's the REAL ending of this game.
** The flipping off part is a bit too much personally. Sure, the PC is tired of being jerked around but the Anarchs, particularly Nines, are the reason he/she wasn't killed along his/her sire in the first place. Simply saying nothing and just walking away would have been just as cool. And alienating yourself with the one group that doesn't want kill you after all that isn't very smart either.
** I can't argue against your own preferences, but I highly doubt Nines cared for you at the beginning. It's mostly about not letting the Camarilla have its way with the situation, even if he believes you shouldn't die, his focus is [=LaCroix=]. After the Camarilla recruits you, he tries to pull you into the Anarachs, and I'd wager that letting the Sabbat kill you early on would have given [=LaCroix=] some ammunition ("If you are for the people, why aren't you protecting them?"). You are an asset to him. Heck, his final line in the independent ending is "We could use somebody like you!", in an almost desperate tone of voice. And who wouldn't want a Kindred so powerful and talented that they ripped through many Californian Kindred, Sabbat and [[spoiler: the Sheriff, who is implied to be the one reason [=LaCroix=] didn't get a beat down sooner]] while being arguably the youngest Kindred in the city.
*** The "FlipTheBird" ending is the ''best'' if you're ''Ventrue''. You're from the line of aristocrats, and you reject Lacroix, the Camarilla in addition to the Anarchs.
** One might consider the Join Camarilla where you become Strauss' [[TheDragon second in command]] an awesome ending, because Strauss is more or less a ReasonableAuthorityFigure, at least as far as vampire politics go.

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* All of the endings are awesome in their own way [[spoiler: except the [=LaCroix=] and Kuei-jin endings]]. However, the Independent deserves special mention. Having been used as a pawn by everyone in Kindred society, the player character simply ''flips off' the Anarchs when they try and recruit him.
** Let's be real honest here. That's the REAL ending of this game.
** The flipping off part is a bit too much personally. Sure, the PC is tired of being jerked around but the Anarchs, particularly Nines, are the reason he/she wasn't killed along his/her sire in the first place. Simply saying nothing and just walking away would have been just as cool. And alienating yourself with the one group that doesn't want kill you after all that isn't very smart either.
** I can't argue against your own preferences, but I highly doubt Nines cared for you at the beginning.
him. It's mostly about not letting the Camarilla have its way with the situation, even if he believes you shouldn't die, his focus is [=LaCroix=]. After the Camarilla recruits you, he tries to pull you into the Anarachs, and I'd wager that letting the Sabbat kill you early on would have given [=LaCroix=] some ammunition ("If you are for the people, why aren't you protecting them?"). You are an asset to him. Heck, his final line in the independent ending is "We could use somebody like you!", in an almost desperate tone of voice. And who wouldn't want a Kindred so powerful and talented that they ripped through many Californian Kindred, Sabbat and [[spoiler: the Sheriff, who is implied to be the one reason [=LaCroix=] didn't get a beat down sooner]] while being arguably the youngest Kindred in the city.
*** The "FlipTheBird" ending is
the ''best'' if you're ''Ventrue''. You're from the line of aristocrats, and you reject Lacroix, the Camarilla in addition to the Anarchs.
** One might consider The ending where you join the Join Camarilla where you and become Strauss' [[TheDragon second in command]] is an awesome ending, because Strauss is more or less a ReasonableAuthorityFigure, at least as far as vampire politics go.
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** Various theories abound to why the PC is able to do so. This include the PC's Generation going down, them raising their willpower off-screen, and other more esoteric explanations. My favorite theory is [=LaCroix=] fails simply because he's ''scared shitless'' and can't concentrate on mind-controlling the PC.

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** Various theories abound to why the PC is able to do so. This include the PC's Generation going down, them raising their willpower off-screen, and other more esoteric explanations. My favorite theory is [=LaCroix=] fails simply because he's ''scared shitless'' and can't concentrate on mind-controlling the PC.
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** The player character on his Matrix-esque assault through [[spoiler: [=LaCroix=]'s forces]] up until the final confrontation when you [[spoiler: kill his Sheriff]] is just one long moment of awesome. It's one of the few games I've seen imitate a player's typical reckless but awesome in-game planning.

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** The player character on his Matrix-esque assault through [[spoiler: [=LaCroix=]'s forces]] up until the final confrontation when you [[spoiler: kill his Sheriff]] is just one long moment of awesome. It's one of the few games I've seen that imitate a player's typical reckless but awesome in-game planning.
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** For example ''Kindred of the East'' in all their other dimensional glory, a member of the Nagaraja sect from ''[[CanonDiscontinuity Dirty Secrets of the Black Hand]]'', and even a ****ing ''wereshark''!

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** For example ''Kindred of the East'' in all their other dimensional glory, a member of the Nagaraja sect from ''[[CanonDiscontinuity Dirty Secrets of the Black Hand]]'', and even a ****ing fucking ''wereshark''!
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** Heck, Gary gets under the skin of a ''Malkavian'', mocking them and saying maybe he's just ''another'' of the voices in their head. It's the only time a Malk will be so annoyed, they'll talk normally, with a "[[PunctuatedForEmphasis Where. Are. You?]]"
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*** The "FlipTheBird" ending is the ''best'' if you're ''Ventrue''. You're from the line of aristocrats, and you reject Lacroix, the Camarilla in addition to the Anarchs.
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** One might consider the Join Camarilla where you become Strauss' [[TheDragon second in command]] an awesome ending, because Strauss is more or less a ReasonableAuthorityFigure, at least as far as vampire politics go.
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* This is a mostly off-screen example, but Romero's been fighting off zombies for most of his "ghoul-hood", before you ever show up. That's no small feat for someone who isn't as powerful as a vampire.

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* This is a mostly off-screen example, but Romero's been fighting off zombies for most of his "ghoul-hood", before you ever show up. That's no small feat for someone who isn't as powerful as a vampire.[[note]]Though he may just be a Defender (a la HunterTheReckoning), so he's more of a BadassAbnormal.)[[/note]]

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