This is discussion archived from a time before the current discussion method was installed.
Working Title: Inept Aesop: From YKTTW
The Gunheart: Does the list of Berenstain Bears books really count? Unless the article was being 100% sarcastic (which frankly doesn't seem to be the case), the point is less that they handled their aesops poorly but more general surprise that these kinds of aesops were in a book series intended for very young children.
TTD: I was thinking more in terms of age-appropriateness. If you're kid is still into picture books starring Funny Animal characters, is that really when you want to bring up Zero Tolerance rules?
Gattsuru: Those aren't exactly intended for big kids, but zero tolerance rules have been known to show up as early as first grade, so it might not be too unreasonable (although I'd wager the result was Family Unfriendly). The one of the birds and the bees almost certainly covered topic matters that probably weren't covered well due to the intended age group (although the baby bear, Honey, did continue existing, albeit mostly in the background outside of the standard Attention Jealousy book), though, as did the Bully book. The Cyberspace book was probably more crippled by lack of knowledge regarding the internet.
TTD: Just as an aside, I originally wrote this Broken Aesop example as a very exaggerated joke:
- "Be nice to people who are different from you. Now, let's go back to fighting monsters!"
And then... I saw the "Teen Titans" episode "Troq". And if you haven't seen it, I inadvertantly described the exact plot. Wow...
High Five: It's a bit late for doing it now, but I want to thank whoever expanded on my entry about "Too Smart for Strangers". It's great.
TTD: You're welcome. Only thing is, I had that show nicely repressed.
Twin Bird: I'm not sure "this is crack" really belongs here. The video seems accurate and to-the-point; the only problem is the sheer hypocrisy and Narm. Put the exact same words in the mouth of Fred Rodgers, and there would be nothing wrong with it. Or am I missing something?
Anonymous Mc Cartneyfan: I presume that it's clueless because of the hypocrisy. Pee Wee Herman, lover of anarchy, draws the line there? And nowadays, you also have to think of the relative demerits of crack and - whatever Paul Ruebens did in that theater that made the Moral Guardians perform their killing blow on Pee Wee Herman.
removed: ** The AIDS episode. Oh, Good Lord, the AIDS episode
. The issue was given an unrealistic portrayal, the villain whispered to students from a closet, and Captain Planet gave such a lame, Anvilicious speech at the end that this episode wound up being a borderline insult to AIDS patients.
Because it is an example of Values Dissonance not this troop considering the fact stuff like that actually happened in the 80’s before information on the disease was widely known
I removed the part about Sailor Moon starving herself to fit into a dress. That episode wasn't changed that drastically, and it had nothing to do with trying to fit into clothing. It was simply that she panicked because she gained a few pounds, and the episode mostly focuses on the new fitness salon that is run by the Dark Kingdom. The dub title is "Slim City." I don't ever remember there being an episode where Usagi tries to fit into a dress by losing weight.
Ununnilium:
- Skipping over the Broken Aesop aspects of it, even if Elfen Lied hadn't ended the manga by killing ten thousand diclonius infants it's very hard to take the equality, friendship, goodwill towards cute horned girls, etc. Aesop well when the entire series is people violently killing each other for poorly explained reasons. And by "people", that means the good guys, except Kouta.
- Yeah, it doesn't matter how much pathos you've front-loaded into a character's backstory, there are only so many innocent people that character can violently tear apart before many viewers just stop sympathizing altogether.
This just seems like straight-up Broken Aesop. There certainly weren't any restrictions on the content of Elfen Lied!
