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pvsage Since: Mar, 2013
Apr 12th 2015 at 12:17:52 AM •••

We've been playing Adorkable rather loosely in our recaps for this series. (I'm guilty of this as well; I need to fix my entry for "Filly Vanilli" one of these days.) Yes, Twiley sleeping on her pancakes is super-cute, but the trope requires nerdiness and dorkiness as well, and neither of these is shown in that scene.

EDIT: Is Dojikko a good fit?

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SeptimusHeap MOD (Edited uphill both ways)
Apr 12th 2015 at 2:53:50 AM •••

Dunno about that trope, but Adorkable needs to be removed.

"For a successful technology, reality must take precedence over public relations, for Nature cannot be fooled." - Richard Feynman
MrL1193 Since: Apr, 2013
Apr 12th 2015 at 7:04:05 PM •••

Cute Clumsy Girl (the western equivalent of Dojikko, as well as the page with all the examples from both) seems more like a character trait than an event-specific trope. Besides, I'd debate just how "clumsy" it is to flop over while asleep.

pvsage Since: Mar, 2013
Apr 12th 2015 at 7:09:05 PM •••

I agree; this is just "ponies are cute when they sleep", which in this series is Too Meaningless To Trope.

pvsage Since: Mar, 2013
Apr 17th 2015 at 11:07:46 PM •••

I've spent a few days away from this recap page and discussion to give this some thought. While I still agree with Septimus Heap that Twicake Sprinkles doesn't count as Adorkable, I also agree that it deserves mention. How about this?

Rule of Cute: Twilight Sparkle, who had been dozing through breakfast, falls face-first into her stack of pancakes, and continues to sleep while snuggling her pancakes like a pillow.

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MrL1193 Since: Apr, 2013
Apr 24th 2015 at 10:36:04 PM •••

Rule of Cute doesn't really look like it's meant to be used as a regular trope.

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SeptimusHeap MOD (Edited uphill both ways)
Apr 25th 2015 at 1:23:23 AM •••

That usage seems questionable to me, anyway.

"For a successful technology, reality must take precedence over public relations, for Nature cannot be fooled." - Richard Feynman
pvsage Since: Mar, 2013
May 1st 2015 at 11:32:58 PM •••

Perhaps the reason we're discussing this is what we have here is an Intended Audience Reaction? The writers and/or animators probably said something like "Let's have Twilight do something so cute the Bronies will be checking their blood sugar!"

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pvsage Since: Mar, 2013
Dec 12th 2015 at 3:45:06 AM •••

Someone put it in as Overworked Sleep, which I think fits the situation perfectly.

pvsage Since: Mar, 2013
Apr 12th 2015 at 8:39:22 PM •••

Does The Green Thumb example count as Artistic License Garnishing the Story? It is, after all, part of a Hard-Work Montage. It would be different if the falling dirt and sprouting flowers had happened with regular dialog.

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MrL1193 Since: Apr, 2013
Apr 12th 2015 at 3:59:10 PM •••

Does redecorating some rooms offscreen really count as an Offscreen Moment of Awesome? That strikes me as being extremely loose with the definition.

(I should also note that the example was originally added under Show, Don't Tell, but I removed it because it didn't seem to fit at all.)

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SuddenFrost Since: Sep, 2009
Apr 12th 2015 at 4:17:41 PM •••

They talked a lot about Twilight's love of books, but we never see any books. I'm starting to wonder if the production team was trying to avoid showing the library because they'd have to decide whether or not the portal to the Equestria Girls universe is still there.

MrL1193 Since: Apr, 2013
Apr 12th 2015 at 4:27:57 PM •••

It's not the "offscreen" part that I doubt; it's the "awesomeness." The offscreen redecoration is certainly appreciated, but no one really seems to give special mention to it to hype it up. (And, really, how often is redecorating an awesome spectacle?)

pvsage Since: Mar, 2013
Apr 12th 2015 at 7:19:07 PM •••

My guess is they plan to show the other rooms in future episodes and wanted to get the explanation as to how they got decorated out of the way. Nothing more than an Info Dump...and not really relevant to any plot.

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