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MichaelBL
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05:07:58 PM Mar 2nd 2013
There's an important difference between Springtime for Hitler and Monadnock Valley (which is the development mentioned in The Fountainhead). The difference is that Monadnock Valley really is good, in the author's opinion. The larcenous financiers don't see this because of their wrong convictions (no pun intended).
Candi
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04:55:46 AM Nov 3rd 2012
Not sure if I should add it to the entry, so I'll plonk it here instead:

The Batman: Gotham Adventures entry: Ivy and Harley's movie did so spectacularly, even though releasing it was basically a 'fly or die' on the movie company's part, that Harley won an award (apparently an Oscar expy) as best director!!!

The last page (in the collection I read it in) has Harley living it up in Arkham with what her fans and new Hollywood friends send her.
MadMan400096
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09:12:19 PM Dec 10th 2011
Wait a minute. The image is back.

Why is the image back when an IP thread specifically asked for it to be removed?
SeventhSeal
11:47:09 AM May 16th 2012
Perhaps because it's the Trope Namer?
rodneyAnonymous
11:46:30 PM Aug 13th 2012
No, because the site admin objected to pulling it: http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=1322772723097495500&page=1#6
asperger1981
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07:01:53 PM Nov 28th 2011
What about 'epic own goal' as an alternative trope name?

Not that my levels of political correctness are that high, but the pun is not so explicit outside of the united states, while even non-sportive people could use a more direct approach?

That, and 'winning the rigged game' might be too long, don't you think?

P.D: I have no idea how popular the movie 'the producers' and its recursive adaptations are out of the english speaking world, so that might biase my perceptions a little.

Thanks for your time anyway.
Kanef
09:51:02 AM Dec 19th 2011
I think it would be a good idea if this Trope was renamed. "Springtime for Hitler" is probabaly confusing for people who don't know the trope that well.

Another name suggestion would be "Failing at Failure"
Poochy.EXE
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09:38:26 PM Apr 13th 2010
edited by Poochy.EXE
Took this Natter out of the article:

  • The omnipotence paradox states that God does not have the ability to do everything, because God would not have the ability to fail. If he could create a rock so heavy he could not lift it, then there is something he cannot do. If he can create a rock of any kind that he can always lift, he has failed in showing he can do anything.
    • This argument assumes God to be a completely physical entity, though; asking the creator of the universe how much it can lift is liking asking a star its IQ.
    • No, this has nothing to do with physicality. Lifting a rock was only an example. This kind of argument claim something different: concept of literal omnipotence is self-contradictory, thus truly omnipotent being cannot exist.
    • It's a ridiculous question no matter which side you support, because it essentially asks for infinity plus one.
    • As any Maths and Philosophy Studnet will tell you, it's entirely possible to have infinity plus one. It's just a different infinity. Thus, an omnipotent being could create a rock so big it could not lift it, and then would be able to lift it.
    • The fallacy of the argument lies in that "a rock so big God can't lift it" is evidence of God's non-omnipotence (by description), and that failure to produce the item is assumed to prove His non-omnipotence as well. Assuming God is omnipotent, the rock is an impossibility. God can create a rock of any size because he can lift anything; he cannot create "a rock so big God can't lift it" because the concept makes no sense. The fault lies not in God's inability to lift, it lies in the rock's inability to exist in a universe where God is established as omnipotent. Isn't it obvious?
      • So if God is so omnipotent, how come he can't create an impossible rock?
      • The above response that this is a nonsensical question is an example of Completely Missing the Point. Which is that the concept of "omnipotence" leads to nonsensical questions. Because the concept itself is nonsensical.
    • Actually, the answer is simple, especially for us tropers. God would create a rock that even him couldn't lift, and then lift it.
    • This Troper always figured that God could create the rock, but if he did he'd stop being omnipotent. If one can do anything, one can remove this ability from oneself.
coco13
06:54:48 PM Sep 28th 2011
Dear author,

I am the assistant of Pro.Tuan in NCTU Taiwan. Pro.Tuan would like to request the permission of using the stage photo of "Spring time for Hilter" in this page. This photo will only be used for academic and research purpose and the source will be mentioned. We will appreciate your help if you agree to grant permission. Thank you very much.
coco13
06:39:51 PM Oct 26th 2011
edited by coco13
This photo will only be used for academic and research purpose and the source and your name will be mentioned in the book. We will appreciate your help if you can kindly provide the photo (jpg, jpeg or tft) with 300+ dpi resolution and email to this mailbox: 95301032@nccu.edu.tw before 11/4. We will email the photo permission agreemeent to you as well. Thank you very much.

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