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SeptimusHeap MOD (Edited uphill both ways)
Mar 22nd 2021 at 3:33:15 AM •••

Linking to a past Trope Repair Shop thread that dealt with this page: Clean-up Needed, started by Spark9 on Dec 20th 2011 at 3:04:57 AM

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Shotoman Shoto Man Since: Oct, 2010
Shoto Man
Jul 22nd 2020 at 10:16:26 PM •••

I think trope examples needs to be heavily cleaned up — not so much "Only fighting games," because there are other kinds of competitive balance games that the trope does apply to, such as racing, sports, and to an extent, Real Time Strategy.

However, there are a lot of examples from non-competitive, single player games, and I think these should be removed. As an opening move, I'm proposing a removal the Bonus Bosses from Kingdom Hearts, because, That One Boss they may be, they're not breaking any competitive balance, due to the single-player nature of the games, and that section has gotten rather huge.

We can go from there, I think.

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MyFinalEdits (Ten years in the joint)
Jul 22nd 2020 at 10:49:57 PM •••

If you feel such a radical cleanup is necessary, you have to bring it up to the Trope Repair Shop, as it is too big a topic to be discussed here.

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Shotoman Since: Oct, 2010
Jul 23rd 2020 at 2:13:51 AM •••

Fair enough.

Give movies a fair chance. They're often Better Than They Sound, and you may find a new favorite. Like Rango.
Ender001 Nine Way Flier Since: May, 2017
Nine Way Flier
Jul 29th 2017 at 12:32:53 AM •••

Can Von Kaiser actually USE the MP-40 though?

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Emperordaein Grant us eyes Since: Jan, 2001
Grant us eyes
Dec 7th 2013 at 10:38:56 PM •••

Thanos was surprisingly not that hard despite being one of the most powerful villains in the Marvel universe. That said, his moveset has a number of attacks which would make him an outright dickhead to beat if the AI bothered to take advantage of them. For example, his bubble special stuns you if it hits, leaving you open to a deadlier attack. Not only that, but his three most-abused ranged moves are actually NORMAL moves. While you don't have to worry about chip damage, Thanos's super gauge builds like CRAZY, meaning he can catch you with one of his six supers. Speaking of his supers they range from having two stone slabs crush you to death to hurling a miniature sun at you and two which cause Interface Screw. And surprisingly, his supers are a double-edged sword. The AI isn't smart enough to realize that Thanos doesn't need the gem in question to do the particular super. (Or maybe that's the point.) Knock a gem off of him and you're a step closer to kicking his ass.

Okay, this is REALLY understating how difficult Thanos is. The thing about his A.I not being smart enough to do a correlating Super is a moot point when he takes all your gems at the beginning of the fight, and unlike every other character, he doesn't lose his gems when hit by a Special. He can only lose them when hit by a Super, but he doesn't need to do the same to you. He does spam his long range moves and leaves up open for his Supers.

A corpse should be left well enough alone...
AMNK Since: Jun, 2010
Mar 26th 2012 at 8:47:17 AM •••

Is it worth to separate examples into "Bosses and sub/mini-bosses" and "Gold/Black mode characters".

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IndirectActiveTransport Since: Nov, 2010
Nov 23rd 2013 at 6:08:08 PM •••

probably

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ElectricBoogaloo Insert title here. Since: Jul, 2011
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Aug 19th 2012 at 9:45:36 PM •••

Trope Name is not clear, need familiarity to a specific game/franchise to understand- eh, you know the drill.

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SeptimusHeap MOD (Edited uphill both ways)
Aug 20th 2012 at 9:10:55 AM •••

Take it to the Trope Repair Shop, dude.

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efsfsefsdf Persistance and Courage Since: Jun, 2011
Persistance and Courage
Jul 26th 2012 at 2:38:59 PM •••

Too much narm on this page.

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BigglesTh9 Since: Jul, 2011
Nov 7th 2011 at 4:51:14 AM •••

I say axe the non-fighting game section: this trope specifically involves fighting game conventions. Otherwise, it's just a That One Boss page.

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AMNK Since: Jun, 2010
Cider Since: May, 2009
Feb 6th 2012 at 9:22:25 PM •••

In theory this shouldn't be limited to fighting games. Any game where everyone in the cast is supposed to have an equal chance of beating each other until a boss comes would count. Racing Games, such as Wizpig in Diddy Kong Racing, come to mind.

Most of the non fighting game examples don't make any sense though. The strategy games like Fire Emblem are the furthest from fighting games. Match ups between units are not supposed to be fair, that's the whole point, to make them as much in your favor as possible.

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Arutema Since: Aug, 2009
Jul 9th 2010 at 12:33:17 AM •••

Blaz Blue Unlimited characters.

How many of them are actually fought as bosses. They're not SNK Bosses if you can only see them in Versus mode, not as an actual Boss Battle.

In Calamity Trigger, there are only Hakumen, Rachel, Nu, and Ragna. Continuum Shift is only out in Japan, so I don't have that info yet. Can an importer clarify and remove the non-boss examples?

They're kind of bloating the page.

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AMNK Since: Jun, 2010
Nov 7th 2011 at 5:41:45 AM •••

There's also a lot of Walkthrough Mode on the page, so yes, it needs a HUGE cleanup.

AM_NK Since: Sep, 2009
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