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06:20:49 PM May 5th 2013
Beam Me Up, Scotty!. The page quote was wrong:

You die... Would you like to have your possessions identified? (Y/N)
-NetHack Death Screen

The correct quote is:

You die... Do you want your possessions identified? (Y/N)

Even then, the "(Y/N)" does not appear exactly like that in the game.
11:01:21 AM Jan 19th 2011
What inspirations did Borderlands take from Diablo? I've played both, and I'm not seeing any "Diablo-like" traits to it. It also doesn't meet the key criteria of a Roguelike, so why should it be on the Roguelike index? Shouldn't that line be somewhere in the Diablo page instead?
01:06:35 PM May 15th 2010
Could someone, anyone, actually come along and frikkin' give this genre of game a real name instead of glorifying some shitty old PC game by calling the rest of these sort of games "Rogue-like"? Geez.
01:19:55 PM May 15th 2010
The Trope Namer is the Trope Maker. Yes, it is old —it was around in the 1980s. But that is double-edged.

Both the genre and the name for the genre were firmly established before Eternal September and the modernization of the internet. Many fans of this genre were using the 'Net that long ago; many others still use Usenet to discuss it. The genre will have to have a modern breakout hit — say, the first successful "roguelike" for the Nintendo Wii — before anyone dares rename it.
01:31:36 PM May 15th 2010
Note: there might be alternate names for this genre (citations needed, natch). There are a few gamer 'zines that (quite reasonably) don't know anything about Rogue. If they ran into a game of this sort, then they might call it a Diablo-type. Every gamer has head of Diablo.

"Mystery Dungeon"-type might also be good, and has the advantage of being descriptive even for those who don't play the games. (One of the defining traits of a roguelike is the randomized dungeon.) But that might be better as a subtype, since it looks like most games using that name are Japanese or Pokémon (yes, I know that's redundant). Maybe Eastern roguelikes can be "Mystery Dungeon" and Western roguelikes can be "Angband-type." (NetHack is the single most popular roguelike, but there are a lot of games naming themselves after Angband.)
11:42:50 PM Jun 25th 2010
edited by EricDVH
Probably the closest thing to an alternative name would be Dungeon Crawler, though as the Dungeon Crawling trope notes, there are some games typically classed as dungeon crawlers without Randomly Generated Levels (I'd point to the early Might & Magic titles or maybe even Gauntlet as examples.)

Also, Diablo clones are a bit more particular than “modern roguelikes,” since they specifically include realtime action, and usually Co-Op Multiplayer.