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hbi2k Since: Jan, 2001
Aug 13th 2013 at 9:10:05 AM •••

We've got a thread going with a lot of discussion on how to fix up this and several other statistical archetype tropes:

https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=1375910344098917700

When it comes to Paper Ram, I think it's definitely tropable, but as it stands the name and description are both pretty lame.

The name doesn't convey offensive power: I'm imagining an origami ram crumpling itself against a Stone Wall and doing no damage. It also evokes Paper Tiger, which conveys ineffectiveness. Not good.

As for the description, there's that weird bullet point list of subtypes, but if there's a difference between the Dodger and the Raider I'm not seeing it. Seems pretty redundant and convoluted to me.

Is there a method for getting this page deleted until the YKTTW can fix it up proper? I mean, I could just go in and delete the entire description and examples and leave it as a blank page, but I have no idea if that's a legit / permitted way of dealing with a problem case like this and don't want to step on moderator toes.

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VioletOrange Since: Jul, 2010
Aug 14th 2013 at 2:44:03 PM •••

Do not blank the page. You could be banned for it. Suggest it for the cutlist.

Greener223224 Greener223224 Since: Apr, 2013
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Jul 12th 2013 at 12:19:41 PM •••

So I'm guessing Glass Ninja came up so often that the mods had to make this trope? Is that why this exists?

Also, can we have Glass Ninja redirect here?

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Larkmarn Since: Nov, 2010
Jul 12th 2013 at 12:32:58 PM •••

Just the opposite. Mods said not to make a trope for every possible combination of speed, defense, and power. Then someone launched it anyway in the middle of discussion about its tropability (and renaming), despite having zero hats.

So... basically it exists because of a mistake.

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Greener223224 Since: Apr, 2013
Jul 12th 2013 at 4:58:40 PM •••

And why didn't they just shut this thing down and edit ban the Leeroy Jenkins?

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Larkmarn Since: Nov, 2010
Jul 12th 2013 at 8:38:54 PM •••

If I recall, they did suspend him and it went back to YKTTW... but oddly enough, that doesn't delete the created page so this still... exists.

EDIT: You can tell by going to the YKTTW archive and checking... since the "launch" button exists, this is technically unlaunched. However, since the page exists, there isn't much point. It's really not an ideal system.

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TroperOnAStickV2 Call me Stick Since: Dec, 2009
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Jun 18th 2013 at 8:13:16 AM •••

What's the functional difference between this and Glass Cannon? There's nothing that prohibits a Glass Cannon from being fast, right?

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RockTallBull Since: Dec, 2010
Jun 18th 2013 at 5:27:33 PM •••

Cannons are usually stationary, if you think about it. Excluding the Hand Cannon. Glass Cannon is all attack. Just like the Stone Wall is all Defense and the Fragile Speedster is all Speed. That reminds me, what is high Defense and Speed, But no attack? Lightning Tortoise?

RockTallBull Since: Dec, 2010
Jun 21st 2013 at 11:16:58 AM •••

I cant think of any characters off the top of my head, but there have been durable and fast roles in videogames. Like Armored Personel Carriers,medics and engineers that need to be responsive in a crisis and get there alive. Support roles, mostly.

VioletOrange Since: Jul, 2010
Jun 21st 2013 at 1:13:04 PM •••

that was of course only my opinion. If you find 5 relevant examples, feel free to make a new ykktw

purplequeen15 Since: Jun, 2011
Jun 10th 2013 at 8:33:31 AM •••

Can someone please clarify exactly what the difference is between Paper Ram and Lightning Bruiser? There seems to be enough of an overlap that a distinction would be helpful.

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VioletOrange Since: Jul, 2010
Jun 10th 2013 at 3:03:45 PM •••

Paper Ram : Fast, does a lot of damage, can't take a hit
Lightning Bruiser : Fast does a lot of damage, very resilient

Stoogebie Since: Apr, 2011
Jun 3rd 2013 at 11:24:59 AM •••

Okay, if I have an otherwise Glass Cannon type character who knows Waif-Fu, but gets tossed like a rag doll if she takes a hit (though mind you, she gets back up a few times before finally admitting defeat), would it be this or more of a downplayed version?

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Larkmarn Since: Nov, 2010
Jun 3rd 2013 at 4:39:19 PM •••

That's just Glass Cannon.

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