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Ferot_Dreadnaught Since: Mar, 2015

Feb 20th 2023 at 4:47:23 PM •••

ATT is debating these removed fanwork examples. Aguments for cutting are it being disliking character (or the versions) they wrote not characters from the source material, it about not enjoying writing about them so liking bashing them is misuse, or unliked official works fanworks can just remove them if they really didn't like them that way.

Here are the removed examples for further discussion if valid/a better fit for something else.

Fan Works

Total Drama:
- Second Chance at Love
  - Sierra, Duncan, and Alejandro are among the author's most despised TD characters; they're also the only three to not hook up with anyone or receive a happy ending. Cody's rant against Sierra in Chapter 2 and Leshawna's beatdown of both Alejandro and Duncan in Chapter 4 are more or less expressions of the author's hatred of them.
  - Neither author is a fan of the Duncan/Courtney ship, due to both of them being in the camp that views their relationship as too toxic and abusive. Duncan more or less expresses the authors' views, saying that he has permanently lost interest in Courtney and will never return to her due to having become fed up with her behavior.
- Total Drama Legends: The author of the story has a deep hatred for Sierra, which likely explains how her continued obsession with Cody leads him to no longer view her as a friend, her early elimination, and her devolution into Feral Sierra.
- Total Shuffled Island Series: The author really hated Dave. His negative traits were accentuated, and all of his positive characteristics were removed. He is utterly useless in the challenges while being obnoxious to his teammates, with Mike the one he treats the worst. He is entitled to dating Sky and refuses to listen to her; ultimately, he was voted off with Sky telling him off. The author herself even admitted to hating Dave and admitted she made him worse here than he was in the show.
  - Rufus T. Serenity has also stated that he hates the canonical version of Total Drama World Tour (and to a lesser extent, Total Drama Action), with his dislike for the seasons being a significant influence on the numerous major differences existing in the story's timeline.
- Both writers of Total Drama All-Stars Rewrite rank Cody as their least favorite character, which likely explains his Adaptational Jerkass qualities and Butt-Monkey moments during the Aftermath. Courtney and Lightning are also strongly disliked by the authors, which has a bit to do with why the other characters give Courtney No Sympathy for being cheated on back in World Tour (although she does later get a redemption) while Lightning is more or less hated by the entire cast (Lindsay even outright tells him he was annoying).
The Many Dates of Danny Fenton
- Two authors of the other The Many Dates of Danny Fenton stories have a negative view of Sam Manson and Tucker Foley.
  - NeoMark has stated many times that he dislike Sam as a character and, to a lesser extent Tucker. And feel their role in the story should be downplayed in favor of other characters. At the beginning of After Many Dates: Danny and Kim numbered characters commented on how Kim Possible was more pretty than Sam and how they like Kim better than Sam. Downplayed as NeoMark realizes that he went too far and tried to show their positive traits, but also reduced their role in the story in favor of the other heroes. In NeoMark other stories, he has been shown trying to balance Sam and Tucker's positive and negative traits and when they suffer bad luck for their actions to when they get a lucky break as a reward for doing the right thing.
  - Played Straight with Luiz4200. You can tell by his writing that he really hates Sam and Tucker. He put the two of them through a lot, having Sam and Tucker caught sneaking into Alex's house. Both were grounded, with Sam's parents cutting her off and forcing her to get a job. When she confessed her feelings for Danny, he rejected her outright. Luiz4200 went to go so far as to have Tucker not pursue a relationship with Velma Dinkley in TMDDF: Danny Chooses Alex After the Many Dates so that Tucker can still be humiliation in flirting with other girls. Later downplayed in Luiz4200 other stories were Sam and Tucker don't suffer as much as bad luck as in TMDDF: Danny Chooses Alex After the Many Dates, with Sam and Tucker even getting a few lucky breaks in that story like Danny forgiving Sam and Tucker meeting Velma Dinkley in college and getting together with her.
- Most of the authors do not have the fondest opinions of Family Guy and American Dad!, given how its characters are mocked, harmed, arrested, and even killed and brought back to life before getting a life sentence in them. Notably, unlike the other characters the other authors dislike, these characters were never shown with either redeeming traits or getting good fortune.
Codex Equus
- Chrysalis from canon. BrutalityInc had admitted on multiple occasions to utterly loath her as a character, to the point he himself believes his hatred reaches irrational levels. These reasons stems seeing her as having completely failed to live up to her supposed cred as a master manipulator and The Chessmaster in canon by constantly making VERY idiotic mistakes, her lack of depth as a character beyond being a ruthless, sociopathic, power-hungry tyrant, yet despite all her failings she nevertheless always being able to somehow come close to winning on too many occasions even when she has no rights, which BrutalityInc believes is mostly due to sheer dumb luck, Plot Armour or the heroes opposing her, in his eyes, being EVEN MORE inept and idiotic than she is. He has gone on record saying that the utterly inept Chrysalis portrayed in "The Mean Six" episode more or less summarizes exactly what he think of her. Nevertheless, out of respect for other writers and readers who liked her, he has tone down his bashing of her and given her credit where it's really due (e.g. legitimately defeating Cadence, an Alicorn, off-screen), as well as leaving the question of her competence ambiguous and open for the readers to decide both in-universe and out.
  - BrutalityInc has also hinted he wrote the Changeling Court entries, which massively expands the Changelings from canon into a civilization that is much, MUCH larger and deeper than Chrysalis and her hive partly because he doesn't want a legitimately interesting race/culture with much story potential to be tainted by association with her. That's right, the creation of a significant part of the Codexverse is most likely motivated, in part, out of BrutalityInc's dislike for Chrysalis. And given Codex Equus BEGAN with the Changeling Courts entries, it's not inconceivable to think the entire thing wouldn't had got off the ground if he didn't despise her, his enmity serving as the foundation that the monument of creativity which is the Codexverse would be built upon.
- BrutalityInc also apparently have a thing against Card Carrying Villains who do things For the Evulz in general, disliking their lack of depth and/or disturbed by their characterization. Whenever he creates one - and he RARELY does - they always come off as stupid, insane, or otherwise pitiful, and those that either came from canon or are inspired by Evil-reveling Card-Carrying Villains from other sources, such as Cosmos, Temnobog and Surtr are written or rewritten to flesh out their personalities and motivations, either to make them deeply sympathetic or just to make them better villains. Otherwise, the absolute best a Card-Carrying Villain For the Evulz character can expect in entries written by BrutalityInc himself is probably a snide in-universe comment on their antics. He has admitted in the comments section of their entries that his entries on Temnobog and Surtr are done partly to experiment in making Card-Carrying Villains that are actually interesting. Temnobog in particular is designed specifically to subvert conventional character archetypes by making him a 'good' guy despite still being completely, unapologetically evil.
Infinity Train: Blossoming Trail
- Goh's an interesting case, since Goh himself isn't the problem: rather, it's the way the anime puts more focus on him than Chloe, treats his main traits as good things without seeing the flaws, and the bucket list of unintentional Double Standard regarding him and Chloe that's the issue. To give you an idea, Episode 29 was Chloe's second focus episode and neither she and Goh have a meaningful conversation until Episode 49.
- A more straightforward example would be Yeardley: his whole "my life's a work in progress" line brought the entire story into existence, as the author points out how much Double Standard he gets when he can give an open-ended answer while Chloe is harassed by everyone else about her career choices (more specifically, she follows her father's footsteps), and his counterpart here is turned into a mysoginistic bully that always gets what's coming to him by karma.
- Professor Cerise also gets the brunt of the author's anger because, at the time the story was written, it was easy to mistake the professor as being negligent on Chloe (and he doesn't start encouraging her until Episode 31). It gets to the point that the story tries to paint him treating Ash and Goh like they were his sons, despite them being his workers.
- Grace Monroe and Simon Laurent are also this to the author. On numerous occasions, the author has stated that while she likes how they are written, she hates both of them for the damage they caused and can't forgive them for their actions, which becomes much more apparent as the writing then goes to take any sympathetic traits they had and either changes them, gives them a darker twist, or outright remove them, all in the name of making them into arrogant sociopaths who only care about destruction. She states in Voyage of Wisteria that Grace got a slap on the wrist for everything she did and how the ending of Book 3 tried to sweep away most of the problems she made (particularly Grace doesn't bring up how they have been unintentionally hurting denizens for their amusement) and that Simon pretty much lost all chances of redemption after he murdered Tuba.
- Cross mentions in Cherry Prince and Princess a dislike of Parker shared with much of the readership. Orange Rose Gathering expands on this: Cross considers Parker the character he hates the most with a reason, the character he hates most for a petty reason is Hop, and while he doesn't hate her he does consider Mallow the verse's biggest idiot who made everything worse.
The author of Ruby and Nora, BurningCinders, has stated that they don't have a high opinion of Atlas. As a result, various characters from that kingdom are given unflattering depictions.
Jackie Chan Adventures: Olympian Journey: The authors make it perfectly clear in Chapter 15 that they don't like Drew at all, making a point of insulting him in the author's notes, having multiple other characters insult him within the story, and setting him up as an Arc Villain (via Aphrodite's essence), only to reveal that he's just a lackey.
The author of The New Adventures of Invader Zim is very well known for his dislike of Gaz, due to viewing her as a one-dimensional and self-centered misanthrope, hence why she's made such a Hate Sink in this story. Though that said, he's also admitted that due to her canonical Character Development in the movie that came out since the story was first started, he's begun to have a more nuanced view of her and regrets writing her in such a way.
The author of Code Prime said in an author’s note that the character he hated the most was Suzaku, due to his Black-and-White Insanity and his Never My Fault attitude, especially because of how he refused to take responsibility for the death of his father. For this, almost everyone in the cast from both Code Geass and Transformers: Prime, constantly call him out on it. Despite that, the author chose to fix Suzaku’s character arc rather than mercilessly thrash him around like a ragdoll.
The author of Rainbow's Mental Scars, greendogtheater, has stated in the comment section that Fluttershy is his least favorite member of the Mane 6.
The author of Another Side Sporting Hopefuls has admitted to not liking Byakuya Togami for his Smug Snake behavior, which "might" explain why not only his personality is made more blatant to the point of racism, but also why he becomes the first victim.
My Little Pony: Friendship Is Magic:
- The author of Danganronpa: In Harmony's Wake admits that she dislikes Timber Spruce. Unlike Flash Sentry, who she initially disliked for similar reasons but grew to enjoy, Timber Spruce just came off as skeevy for his interest in Sci-Twi, an under-aged client of his, believing he used his position of authority to bully her into being interested in him, and sees their relationship to be bad writing. So, that's why Timber became the first blackened of the story, and was shown to have made many stupid mistakes while carrying out his murder of Wallflower Blush, which eventually got him caught and brutally executed.
- The author of The Flash Sentry Chronicles has made it clear that when he adapts My Little Pony: Equestria Girls – Legend of Everfree (his least-favorite Equestria Girls movie) for the series, he plans to fix the "mistake" the film caused with the Ship Tease between Sci-Twi and Timber Spruce, admitting that he absolutely cannot stand Timber Spruce for getting in the way of Twilight and Flash (his favorite ship). In the actual story, Timber is depicted as a jerkass who acts like a cool guy in front of all the campers, but he is actually self-centered and purposely tries to steal Sci-Twi away from Flash. Sci-Twi loses all her interest in him when he insults Flash to her face.
- The author of Highschool Dragon named Svengallop, Spoiled Rich and Prince Blueblood as his top 3 least-favorite characters which explains the latter's Adaptational Jerkass and The Mole in the fic.
- The author of Spike's Gambit really loves to crap all over Twilight Sparkle throughout the story. He goes out of his way to both villainize and victimize the poor girl at every chance he gets. He made a blog (Which has been deleted sometime ago) of how much he despised the character.
The author of the The Savior King, the Master Tactician and the Queen of Liberation has made it no secret that she despises Edelgard, due to her inability to see other people's perspectives, her prejudices against the Nebateans, and of her refusal to take responsibility for her and her "allies" actions both in story, and in the Crimson Flower route. She did admit to feeling sorry about her when Odesse beat the shit out of Edelgard, and admitted that the scene was hard to write though.

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Oct 19th 2022 at 11:43:35 AM •••

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Bosco13 Since: Jun, 2010

Oct 2nd 2022 at 7:05:26 AM •••

Can this apply to things that aren't characters?

The example I'm trying to place is J. K. Rowling hating writing the Quidditch scenes in Harry Potter

Reymma RJ Savoy Since: Feb, 2015

RJ Savoy

Jul 14th 2018 at 11:43:48 AM •••

I'm removing the entry about Ikuhara's dislike of Mamoru because there is no evidence of it. In one interview he said: '"...if I have a guy in the show, the love relationship gets to have a bigger role than the show. And that would be an interesting element, but I wouldn't want that to make that the scene-stealer of the show. Most other shoujo shows are in that direction. It's about who-and-who are getting together, or who-and-who are breaking up. I thought it would be a loss if that would be the big motif just because a girl was the main character. I think there could be more shows with other motives than that."' So he was not against Mamoru as a character, but rather the focuse given to their relationship in the manga.

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