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04:03:50 AM Oct 20th 2015
How is it called when you get a character for whom it's played for drama ?
11:23:14 AM Jun 3rd 2013
Am I the only one who considers Waspinator the avatar of this trope? I think we should probably have an image of him as the trope picture, if we can somehow get one that won't attract copyright issues.
01:26:10 PM Jan 16th 2013
Might be worth noting that most sit-com episode plots resolve around making one character butt monkey for an episode.
07:10:50 AM Dec 10th 2011
So, what's the difference between Butt Monkey and The Chew Toy? They seem practically synonymous!
10:33:01 AM Jan 22nd 2013
A butt monkey is a character who is the butt of the jokes while the chew toy is a character an Audience likes to see suffer
10:34:02 AM Jan 22nd 2013
A butt monkey is a character who is the butt of the jokes while the chew toy is a character an Audience likes to see suffer
08:55:03 PM Oct 21st 2011
Would it count as an invocation if a Lawful Good teammate is always put in this position essentially because of their Character Alignment?
07:23:38 PM Sep 2nd 2011
My mom takes offense to the term Butt Monkey, is there any other term that could be used?
10:49:45 AM Sep 4th 2011
Just in conversation, is there some type of synonym.
11:52:22 PM Nov 7th 2011
"Guy who can't catch a break"?
07:49:51 PM Aug 12th 2011
Hey, what happened to the Troper Tales here?
10:45:42 PM Jul 31st 2011
Am I to infer that the name is a reference to anal rape and is thus an instance of Rape Is Funny When It Is Male On Male?
02:03:56 PM Feb 2nd 2013
No, it's a play on the phrase "butt of the joke".
06:33:40 PM Jul 25th 2011
edited by magnum12
In an attempt to save space through page cutting, why don't we implement a Type X system like with the Anti-Hero. The way I see it, there's three types of Butt Monkey.

Type 1: They suffer a lot of abuse because they had it coming as a result of bad karma. (The Jerk Ass butt monkeys like Daffy Duck go here.)

Type 2: They were asking for it because they're idiots. Homer Simpson is an example here who could also be type 1 depending on the season.

Type 3: They do nothing to deserve their fate besides from the powers that be hating them. Meg is an example of a type 3. Type 3 is likely to become a Desiginated Monkey to fans.

This also brings forth a question asked by the Nostalgia Critic in regards to type 1 (something I shall call the Butt Monkey viscous cycle). Is the character a Butt Monkey because they're a jerk (thus their misery being karmic punishment), or are they a bitter, cynical jerk BECAUSE they're a Butt Monkey (they act like jerks because of unjust treatment which provokes more punishment in a viscous cycle). Tink is an example of the former due to being such a lech while Doofensmirtz is an example of the later given his bad upbringing. The later case is a good method of Deconstruction for the trope because it realistically points out that people who people/the universe shafts for no reason can easily become bitter, cynical people thus resulting in a Self-Fulfilling Prophecy of sorts when it comes to karma. Great idea for a YKTTW discussion.
05:51:50 AM Jul 26th 2011
It's funny that you should bring the Nostalgia Critic because if we're going to deconstruction route, then he's a good example too. He gets punished for being an ass, gets himself into trouble with really powerful beings and also because he was a character created to be the constant victim.
12:57:08 PM Sep 8th 2012
Doofenshmirtz is more of a Type 2 given his Harmless Villain nature.
10:36:11 AM Nov 24th 2010
Why is this article M-rated?
08:08:59 AM Nov 18th 2010
edited by HarleyQuinnhyenaholic
We need a line in the intro saying something like how if the show is full of people who are Butt Monkeys, it doesn't count, and if they deserve the punishment they're getting - they've just done something incredibly stupid, say - they're not a Butt Monkey either.

I mean, in Futurama, Kif is the butt monkey (part of his role is to have a damn good reason to hate his commanding officer), but then it goes on to list every other major character on the show who's ever had a demeaning moment as being a Butt Monkey too. Zoidberg catches a lot of flack, yes, but most of the time he deserves it for his incompetance or stupidity.

Meg, on the other hand, is picked on without reason, by everybody, and the show doesn't really need to do this. Her tormenters never get comeuppance and she never gets any relief. Similar with a lot of the ways Brian gets punished without reason.

There ought to be such a thing as a Butt Ensemble, for when everybody on the show is picked on reguarly.

And there really shouldn't be any lists saying "Look at all the examples!" When somebody's a butt Monkey, you shouldn't have to give dozens of examples because just hearing their name fills you with pity.
04:33:06 PM Mar 29th 2011
Why would we warn about a rule we don't have?
04:29:31 AM Feb 23rd 2013
I can only think of one episode where Zoidberg's suffering was due to karma. For the most part, it seems the powers that be just hate him.
02:37:49 PM Nov 1st 2010
Anybody know the origin of the term "butt monkey"? Just heard it on an episode of CSI. Seems like they're doing some lampshade hanging, one character just mentioned the victim's show jumping the shark.

So, where did "butt monkey" come from? Is it possible this episode is making some references to us or the greater TV nerd fandom?
05:31:08 AM Jul 25th 2010
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Does the president of the United States count as a butt monkey? Every time the government screws up, he always is scapegoated by at least some group, and congress is normally overlooked even though it can be much guiltier and has the power to make the president's job a living hell. Obama is a good example of a butt monkey who doesn't deserve it as much as the actual bad ones.
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