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05:12:46 PM May 4th 2017
edited by Sakubara
The anime section was removed? I mean I knew there are many anime fans with this, but...Jesus, we had to go this far!

Update: Oh I see general cleanup. In fairness, yeah some of them are kind of Complaining about People Not Liking the Show rather than trying to deconstruct their arguments in an objective way.
05:35:43 AM Oct 18th 2017
Not enough cleanup, if you ask me. I can't find any examples with proper context. This is a trope, but no one who uses it knows how to use it.
12:02:25 PM Feb 28th 2017
Per the Bias Steamroller cleanup thread, many MANY examples have been purged for misuse, complaining, and lack of context. These examples have been preserved in a sandbox page in case anyone would care to argue for their reinstatement and/or add context.
02:40:08 PM Feb 28th 2017
Overall I agree with your forum post, but I'll just take the time to say that there's a few examples which are plausible, but require specificity. The problem is that I don't remember exactly which episodes to reference.

For example, the Zero Punctuation one. In several reviews, Yahtzee makes it clear that he doesn't like Nintendo's console designs or their marketing decisions and writes off new titles as attempts to coast on nostalgia and brand recognition. Even if a review isn't about a Nintendo property, or he otherwise finds the game good, he'll rant about those things unapologetically.
07:30:56 PM Feb 28th 2017
Bennet the Sage's entry (in Anime & Manga) could probably be rewritten to fit the criteria:

He has a bias against Double Standard: Abuse, Female on Male, and in his review of InuYasha called out Kagome's character about it. He also finds the characters of Love Hina annoying for this reason, and considers Naru a Karma Houdini "intolerable bitch".
06:06:25 AM Mar 2nd 2017
^^ That last sentence— "Even if a review isn't about a Nintendo property, or he otherwise finds the game good, he'll rant about those things unapologetically."— is what makes me think there might be an actual example there. Still needs at least one specific example of a game that he considers good on its own merits that he pans solely for being a Nintendo property, however. I don't know Yahtzee's stuff well enough to think of one off the top of the dome.

^ It's still two examples smushed into one, neither of which has enough context. He criticized an Inuyasha character and a Love Hina character for a Double Standard, okay, but did he let his pet peeve against that one aspect take over those reviews? Did he spend so much time criticizing genre conventions that he had none left for examining the merits of the specific works being reviewed?

It still reads as "[critic] didn't like [thing I like] for [reason]." Unless [reason] can be shown to be an unreasonable bias, it's just He Panned It, Now He Sucks.
07:43:46 AM Mar 2nd 2017
edited by NubianSatyress
The best example I could find at the moment is this review of Mario & Luigi: Dream Team, where he spends the first three minutes of the review griping over Nintendo's marketing, console design and storytelling cliches before saying a word about the game itself. In this review, Yahtzee's usual Caustic Critic and Accentuate the Negative style makes it hard to even tell if he liked the game or not, because most of his criticism diverges into more gripes about Nintendo's habits.
12:24:29 AM Jul 21st 2016
I'm starting to think this seems more subjective more than anything.
05:46:46 AM Jul 21st 2016
I agree. I'm really not sure why it isn't.
03:02:06 PM Oct 12th 2014
This Page might as well be a testament to why people need to pay attention in English class and take Logic classes. If you come out of education not laughing at this page, something went wrong.
01:23:21 AM Jan 2nd 2014
Removed this because I could find no such site:

  • Just about all Screw These Comics reviewers had personal biases against "Author characters" and "Ran Dies". Not to mention, a couple webcomics they liked they gave higher scores to, not entirely averaging the scores out. A couple times, they just flat out trashed the comics, sometimes they hated the author(s).
08:16:00 PM Mar 23rd 2013
Removed the reference to Game Informer's review of Boktai: The Sun Is In Your Hand because I failed to find said review anywhere on Game Informer.
09:02:10 AM Dec 13th 2012
Very last line as of now:

"anything made after the 1960s or 1990s"

Someone needs to fix this, I have no idea what exactly is the intended meaning here.
06:09:33 PM Mar 9th 2011
Almost all so called professional game reviewers are biased agains't all 3d Sonic games when all of them have been masterpieces except for Secret Rings.
06:12:48 PM Mar 9th 2011
01:59:46 PM May 14th 2010
I'm wondering if we should cut examples altogether. This looks like it could explode into Internet Backdraft and Justifying Edit this and that.
02:56:24 PM Dec 14th 2010
Absolutley. I don't want a page that consists of pepole calling out on a bias. I don't even want this on the site.
04:49:22 PM Apr 8th 2010
Thank you for fixing that, Poochy. I don't know what happened there... I'm sorry.
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