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\\\"Finally, he\\\'s the first BigBad to avert the SuperheroMovieVillainsDie trend. Kinda.\\\"
Um, how? Sure he ends up surviving Ralph taking back his body and uploads his brain into the chair but even then, Marlize just kills him again by destroying the chair. Even then Eobard Thawne has survived being RetGoned twice so isn\\\'t he the first BigBad to avert the trend? And DeathofPersonality really doesn\\\'t mean Zoom\\\'s actually died. According to the FridgeHorror page, Savitar may still be out there.
\\\"Now this may not be a problem since his last known location is a now aborted future, but Savitar might still be out there. Think back to his origin, He\\\'s a time remnant created by Barry to fight Savitar who then became him, this means at the moment of Barry\\\'s Face–Heel Turn there was already a Savitar running around and based on everybody\\\'s questioning of whether he could actually kill Iris it can be assumed he hadn\\\'t already done it, so the first thing he probably did after becoming Savitar was get trapped in the speed force, presumably on purpose so his first meeting with The Flash would go the way he remembered it., this means in the original timeline he killed Iris then got off scot free and was presumably still around when Barry time jumped. Now if this is true it probably wouldn\\\'t be a problem now that he\\\'s been Ret Gone\\\'d but considering how every time The Flash does something different to what originally happened, Savitar gets a new memory, the Savitar from the Bad Future probably knew he was there, there\\\'s a good chance he also knew how this was gonna change things and having the ability to time jump to avoid it. So, he may now still exist as a time abomination like Thawne.te:NNow this may not be a problem since his last known location is a now aborted future, but Savitar might still be out there. Think back to his origin, He\\\'s a time remnant created by Barry to fight Savitar who then became him, this means at the moment of Barry\\\'s Face–Heel Turn there was already a Savitar running around and based on everybody\\\'s questioning of whether he could actually kill Iris it can be assumed he hadn\\\'t already done it, so the first thing he probably did after becoming Savitar was get trapped in the speed force, presumably on purpose so his first meeting with The Flash would go the way he remembered it., this means in the original timeline he killed Iris then got off scot free and was presumably still around when Barry time jumped. Now if this is true it probably wouldn\\\'t be a problem now that he\\\'s been Ret Gone\\\'d but considering how every time The Flash does something different to what originally happened, Savitar gets a new memory, the Savitar from the Bad Future probably knew he was there, there\\\'s a good chance he also knew how this was gonna change things and having the ability to time jump to avoid it. So, he may now still exist as a time abomination like Thawne\\\"
All in all, Devoe is not only \\\'\\\'not\\\'\\\' the first villain to prevent his death but his fate has been shared by potentially all of the past villains and he likely didn\\\'t even avert the trope in the first place. I suppose one way his fate differs is that he\\\'s the only one who didn\\\'t die through time travel shenanigans (even Zoom was killed because through the ramifications of using time remnants).
Um, how? Sure he ends up surviving Ralph taking back his body and uploads his brain into the chair but even then, Marlize just kills him again by destroying the chair. Even then Eobard Thawne has survived being RetGoned twice so isn\\\'t he the first BigBad to avert the trend? And DeathofPersonality really doesn\\\'t mean Zoom\\\'s actually died. According to the FridgeHorror page, Savitar may still be out there.
\\\"Now this may not be a problem since his last known location is a now aborted future, but Savitar might still be out there. Think back to his origin, He\\\'s a time remnant created by Barry to fight Savitar who then became him, this means at the moment of Barry\\\'s Face–Heel Turn there was already a Savitar running around and based on everybody\\\'s questioning of whether he could actually kill Iris it can be assumed he hadn\\\'t already done it, so the first thing he probably did after becoming Savitar was get trapped in the speed force, presumably on purpose so his first meeting with The Flash would go the way he remembered it., this means in the original timeline he killed Iris then got off scot free and was presumably still around when Barry time jumped. Now if this is true it probably wouldn\\\'t be a problem now that he\\\'s been Ret Gone\\\'d but considering how every time The Flash does something different to what originally happened, Savitar gets a new memory, the Savitar from the Bad Future probably knew he was there, there\\\'s a good chance he also knew how this was gonna change things and having the ability to time jump to avoid it. So, he may now still exist as a time abomination like Thawne.te:NNow this may not be a problem since his last known location is a now aborted future, but Savitar might still be out there. Think back to his origin, He\\\'s a time remnant created by Barry to fight Savitar who then became him, this means at the moment of Barry\\\'s Face–Heel Turn there was already a Savitar running around and based on everybody\\\'s questioning of whether he could actually kill Iris it can be assumed he hadn\\\'t already done it, so the first thing he probably did after becoming Savitar was get trapped in the speed force, presumably on purpose so his first meeting with The Flash would go the way he remembered it., this means in the original timeline he killed Iris then got off scot free and was presumably still around when Barry time jumped. Now if this is true it probably wouldn\\\'t be a problem now that he\\\'s been Ret Gone\\\'d but considering how every time The Flash does something different to what originally happened, Savitar gets a new memory, the Savitar from the Bad Future probably knew he was there, there\\\'s a good chance he also knew how this was gonna change things and having the ability to time jump to avoid it. So, he may now still exist as a time abomination like Thawne\\\"
All in all, Devoe is not only \\\'\\\'not\\\'\\\' the first villain to prevent his death but his fate has been shared by potentially all of the past villains and he likely didn\\\'t even avert the trope in the first place. I suppose one way his fate differs is that he\\\'s the only one who didn\\\'t die through time travel shenanigans (even Zoom was killed because through the ramifications of using time remnants).
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\\\"Finally, he\\\'s the first BigBad to avert the SuperheroMovieVillainsDie trend. Kinda.\\\"
Um, how? Sure he ends up surviving Ralph taking back his body and uploads his brain into the chair but even then, Marlize just kills him again by destroying the chair. Even then Eobard Thawne has survived being RetGoned twice so isn\\\'t he the first BigBad to avert the trend? And DeathofPersonality really doesn\\\'t mean Zoom\\\'s actually died. According to the FridgeHorror page, Savitar may still be out there.
\\\"Now this may not be a problem since his last known location is a now aborted future, but Savitar might still be out there. Think back to his origin, He\\\'s a time remnant created by Barry to fight Savitar who then became him, this means at the moment of Barry\\\'s Face–Heel Turn there was already a Savitar running around and based on everybody\\\'s questioning of whether he could actually kill Iris it can be assumed he hadn\\\'t already done it, so the first thing he probably did after becoming Savitar was get trapped in the speed force, presumably on purpose so his first meeting with The Flash would go the way he remembered it., this means in the original timeline he killed Iris then got off scot free and was presumably still around when Barry time jumped. Now if this is true it probably wouldn\\\'t be a problem now that he\\\'s been Ret Gone\\\'d but considering how every time The Flash does something different to what originally happened, Savitar gets a new memory, the Savitar from the Bad Future probably knew he was there, there\\\'s a good chance he also knew how this was gonna change things and having the ability to time jump to avoid it. So, he may now still exist as a time abomination like Thawne.te:NNow this may not be a problem since his last known location is a now aborted future, but Savitar might still be out there. Think back to his origin, He\\\'s a time remnant created by Barry to fight Savitar who then became him, this means at the moment of Barry\\\'s Face–Heel Turn there was already a Savitar running around and based on everybody\\\'s questioning of whether he could actually kill Iris it can be assumed he hadn\\\'t already done it, so the first thing he probably did after becoming Savitar was get trapped in the speed force, presumably on purpose so his first meeting with The Flash would go the way he remembered it., this means in the original timeline he killed Iris then got off scot free and was presumably still around when Barry time jumped. Now if this is true it probably wouldn\\\'t be a problem now that he\\\'s been Ret Gone\\\'d but considering how every time The Flash does something different to what originally happened, Savitar gets a new memory, the Savitar from the Bad Future probably knew he was there, there\\\'s a good chance he also knew how this was gonna change things and having the ability to time jump to avoid it. So, he may now still exist as a time abomination like Thawne\\\"
All in all, Devoe is not only \\\'\\\'not\\\'\\\' the first villain to prevent his death but his fate has been shared by potentially all of the past villains and he likely didn\\\'t even avert the trope in the first place. I suppose one way his fate differs is that he\\\'s the only one who didn\\\'t die through time travel shenanigans (even Zoom was killed because through the ramifications of using time remnants).
Um, how? Sure he ends up surviving Ralph taking back his body and uploads his brain into the chair but even then, Marlize just kills him again by destroying the chair. Even then Eobard Thawne has survived being RetGoned twice so isn\\\'t he the first BigBad to avert the trend? And DeathofPersonality really doesn\\\'t mean Zoom\\\'s actually died. According to the FridgeHorror page, Savitar may still be out there.
\\\"Now this may not be a problem since his last known location is a now aborted future, but Savitar might still be out there. Think back to his origin, He\\\'s a time remnant created by Barry to fight Savitar who then became him, this means at the moment of Barry\\\'s Face–Heel Turn there was already a Savitar running around and based on everybody\\\'s questioning of whether he could actually kill Iris it can be assumed he hadn\\\'t already done it, so the first thing he probably did after becoming Savitar was get trapped in the speed force, presumably on purpose so his first meeting with The Flash would go the way he remembered it., this means in the original timeline he killed Iris then got off scot free and was presumably still around when Barry time jumped. Now if this is true it probably wouldn\\\'t be a problem now that he\\\'s been Ret Gone\\\'d but considering how every time The Flash does something different to what originally happened, Savitar gets a new memory, the Savitar from the Bad Future probably knew he was there, there\\\'s a good chance he also knew how this was gonna change things and having the ability to time jump to avoid it. So, he may now still exist as a time abomination like Thawne.te:NNow this may not be a problem since his last known location is a now aborted future, but Savitar might still be out there. Think back to his origin, He\\\'s a time remnant created by Barry to fight Savitar who then became him, this means at the moment of Barry\\\'s Face–Heel Turn there was already a Savitar running around and based on everybody\\\'s questioning of whether he could actually kill Iris it can be assumed he hadn\\\'t already done it, so the first thing he probably did after becoming Savitar was get trapped in the speed force, presumably on purpose so his first meeting with The Flash would go the way he remembered it., this means in the original timeline he killed Iris then got off scot free and was presumably still around when Barry time jumped. Now if this is true it probably wouldn\\\'t be a problem now that he\\\'s been Ret Gone\\\'d but considering how every time The Flash does something different to what originally happened, Savitar gets a new memory, the Savitar from the Bad Future probably knew he was there, there\\\'s a good chance he also knew how this was gonna change things and having the ability to time jump to avoid it. So, he may now still exist as a time abomination like Thawne\\\"
All in all, Devoe is not only \\\'\\\'not\\\'\\\' the first villain to prevent his death but his fate has been shared by potentially all of the past villains and he likely didn\\\'t even avert the trope in the first place. I suppose one way his fate differs is that he\\\'s the only one who didn\\\'t die through time travel shenanigans (even Zoom was killed because through the ramifications of using time remnants).
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\\\"Finally, he\\\'s the first BigBad to avert the SuperheroMovieVillainsDie trend. Kinda.\\\"
Um, how? Sure he ends up surviving Ralph taking back his body and uploads his brain into the chair but even then, Marlize just kills him again by destroying the chair. Even then Eobard Thawne has survived being RetGoned twice so isn\\\'t he the first BigBad to avert the trend? And DeathofPersonality really doesn\\\'t mean Zoom\\\'s actually died. According to the FridgeHorror page, Savitar may still be out there [[labelnote: Note]] \\\"Now this may not be a problem since his last known location is a now aborted future, but Savitar might still be out there. Think back to his origin, He\\\'s a time remnant created by Barry to fight Savitar who then became him, this means at the moment of Barry\\\'s Face–Heel Turn there was already a Savitar running around and based on everybody\\\'s questioning of whether he could actually kill Iris it can be assumed he hadn\\\'t already done it, so the first thing he probably did after becoming Savitar was get trapped in the speed force, presumably on purpose so his first meeting with The Flash would go the way he remembered it., this means in the original timeline he killed Iris then got off scot free and was presumably still around when Barry time jumped. Now if this is true it probably wouldn\\\'t be a problem now that he\\\'s been Ret Gone\\\'d but considering how every time The Flash does something different to what originally happened, Savitar gets a new memory, the Savitar from the Bad Future probably knew he was there, there\\\'s a good chance he also knew how this was gonna change things and having the ability to time jump to avoid it. So, he may now still exist as a time abomination like Thawne.[[/labelnote]] All in all, Devoe is not only \\\'\\\'not\\\'\\\' the first villain to prevent his death but his fate has been shared by potentially all of the past villains and he likely didn\\\'t even avert the trope in the first place. I suppose one way his fate differs is that he\\\'s the only one who didn\\\'t die through time travel shenanigans (even Zoom was killed because through the ramifications of using time remnants).
Um, how? Sure he ends up surviving Ralph taking back his body and uploads his brain into the chair but even then, Marlize just kills him again by destroying the chair. Even then Eobard Thawne has survived being RetGoned twice so isn\\\'t he the first BigBad to avert the trend? And DeathofPersonality really doesn\\\'t mean Zoom\\\'s actually died. According to the FridgeHorror page, Savitar may still be out there [[labelnote: Note]] \\\"Now this may not be a problem since his last known location is a now aborted future, but Savitar might still be out there. Think back to his origin, He\\\'s a time remnant created by Barry to fight Savitar who then became him, this means at the moment of Barry\\\'s Face–Heel Turn there was already a Savitar running around and based on everybody\\\'s questioning of whether he could actually kill Iris it can be assumed he hadn\\\'t already done it, so the first thing he probably did after becoming Savitar was get trapped in the speed force, presumably on purpose so his first meeting with The Flash would go the way he remembered it., this means in the original timeline he killed Iris then got off scot free and was presumably still around when Barry time jumped. Now if this is true it probably wouldn\\\'t be a problem now that he\\\'s been Ret Gone\\\'d but considering how every time The Flash does something different to what originally happened, Savitar gets a new memory, the Savitar from the Bad Future probably knew he was there, there\\\'s a good chance he also knew how this was gonna change things and having the ability to time jump to avoid it. So, he may now still exist as a time abomination like Thawne.[[/labelnote]] All in all, Devoe is not only \\\'\\\'not\\\'\\\' the first villain to prevent his death but his fate has been shared by potentially all of the past villains and he likely didn\\\'t even avert the trope in the first place. I suppose one way his fate differs is that he\\\'s the only one who didn\\\'t die through time travel shenanigans (even Zoom was killed because through the ramifications of using time remnants).
