Creator Rob Liefeld Discussion

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A.vonZiggurat
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03:03:49 PM Dec 1st 2013
Schedule Slip ought to be added. Rob's pretty infamous for it; reportedly, his issue of Deathmate being late for months was a major source in the crossover's failure.
Larkmarn
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08:04:33 AM Apr 3rd 2013
Correct me if I'm wrong, but the complaint under Gag Penis (that they have a snow shovel down their pants) is lodged more often against his female characters than male, isn't it?
Larkmarn
08:16:40 AM Apr 3rd 2013
edited by Larkmarn
And really, Trope Maker of Superhero Packing Heat? Codifier I can accept, but Maker? Is this a universe when The Punisher doesn't exist? Or even Vilgilante? There are SO many.
VicGeorge2011
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07:22:42 AM Feb 11th 2013
That's "try figuring out", NOT "try and figure out".
Darkton
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01:48:06 AM Sep 11th 2012
I heard a rumor that Liefeld quit the comic's industry. Any truth to that?
coolman229
08:10:50 PM Nov 12th 2012
I know he quit DC, burned bridges, and is pissing everyone off. I haven't heard if he's outright quitting the industry, though.
MisterDT
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12:24:27 PM Jul 20th 2012
Okay, on the Captain Ersatz section, it's said that Liefeld is Deadpool's "original co-creator with Joe Kelly". But Joe Kelly didn't write the character until his first ongoing series in the late 90s. Fabian Nicieza co-created Deadpool alongside Rob Liefeld. This should be fixed.
gibberingtroper
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02:37:54 PM Dec 10th 2011
So it appears the one Liefeld fanboy still in existence has mod privileges on TV Tropes. Those who disparage Liefeld are listed as "Hate Dumb" and the backlash against Liefeld is attributed to Seinfeld Is Unfunny. Real mature.

Liefeld is not "Seinfeld Is Unfunny." Seinfeld Is Unfunny is when a groundbreaking work loses its appeal over time because it is so heavily imitated that what it added to its genre is no longer really acknowledged by the masses. Liefeld added nothing of merit to comic books. As this article itself points out, he didn't even really invent any of the styles or tropes he apparently popularized and while he may have created "Deadpool" he has nothing to do with what makes that character good these days. Deadpool could have just as easily been created out of any other carbon copy stock Nineties Anti-Hero.

He was never good. He was a man of juvenile tastes and a lazy creator with limited skills and a defective style.

Its not wrong to like him. You are not dumb or inferior for liking him. But he was never actually good. You have to admit that to yourself.
gibberingtroper
02:39:40 PM Dec 10th 2011
In fact, just to make it clear, Liefeld is really the reverse of "Seinfeld Is Unfunny" since he is credited with things he didn't add to the medium, hated or loved. He's a Trope Codifier at most.
AP
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03:41:00 AM Nov 29th 2011
Joe Kelly is credited as the co-creator of Deadpool on this page. It should be changed to Fabien Niceza.
gibberingtroper
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04:03:43 PM Jun 21st 2011
What happened to that picture of the deformed spine girl? Its such a perfect representation of who this guy is.
Artemis92
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06:35:08 AM Mar 18th 2010
Artemis92: In the "40 reasons" thing that the page links to, the picture at the bottom of the first page doesn't show(the character in it is referred to as "quadzilla"). I'm just curious. If anybody knows what the picture is, could they please post a link to it?
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