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openDeleting YMMV Videogame
Alley Oop has a tendency to delete YMMV tropes from Xenoblade Chronicles 3 and Xenoblade Chronicles 3: Future Redeemed if they personally disagree with them. I'd hash it out elsewhere but they gave an edit reason that raised an eyebrow.
I don't remember there being a rule about not troping audience reactions allegedly from a specific part of a fanbase. Am I right in thinking that's not the case?
Edited by PresidentBritopenFemale protagonist from P3P Videogame
So I was on the Persona 3 YMMV section and came across this entry, edited by Key Will Jay:
- The female main character herself is rather divisive. Some love her inclusion for providing an interesting "what if" scenario (and with the main theme of Portable being the butterfly effect, this also fits) and for her personality contrasting with the male main character while still keeping the "masking feelings" theme. They may also like how some of the less interesting Social Links get replaced with S.E.E.S. members. Others see her as unnecessary and believe she ruins the game's themes of overcoming despair and accepting death with said alternate scenario and personality, and dislike how SEES is made obviously friendlier in her route (a criticism fans of older titles sometimes level at newer titles in general). The memes and exposure surrounding her also induce Hype Backlash for non-fans and those that have played the console version but do not try Portable, calling her overrated. It was bad enough that when an alleged lead regarding a theoretical remake mentioned cutting out Portable content (which turned to be reality per the reveal of Reload), the fanbase split between those calling it a worst-case scenario and those celebrating the removal.
I’m not as active in the fandom but do people really fight over the female protagonist? Because I’ve never seen much divide over her. In fact, I’ve only seen people express their disappointment of her being excluded from Reload.
Edited by Superdude96openCookie Clicker Characters Videogame
there is at least two characters in cookie clicker that are not NPC,and those are the Baker (it has no name or face...maybe)and the Grandmatriarchs. should i make a characters tag for them?
openEdit War Videogame
Back in January I touched up Extremis Ultimis, including commenting out a ZCE. Today, Infamous Empire uncommented the ZCE without expanding it. I sent them a ZCE notifier, but I cannot comment out the ZCE again (because that would be an Edit War) nor can I expand it (I am not familiar with the mod in question).
openWhy Vivienne from Dragon Age Inquisition doesn´t count as a Defrosting Ice Queen? Videogame
Even as a downplayed version, since we can be her friend. Also, I found interesting that Sugar and Ice personality was added in that trope page and with Vivienne as a exemple. Do you think writting that trope on her page in DAI makes sense?
Edited by TabsopenAssPull example re-added without discussion Videogame
I originally had brought the example of Ass Pull on YMMV.Star Wars Jedi Survivor regarding Bode being a traitor and his true nature up on the "Is This An Example" thread, pointing out that it had extensive foreshadowing listed on the main page. So it was decided to be removed.
Now, Chris116 is has re-added it without discussion, saying that only his identity as a former Jedi is the Ass Pull, when the foreshadowing entries also mentioned the hints in the story for this as well.
I don't want to incur in an edit war so I'm bringing this in here.
Edited by matruzopenMove to Video Game namespace? Videogame
I feel like BFDIA 5b should be in there, since I'm pretty sure "recap" is for episodes/chapters of a show or book of some sort. While this is an "episode" of a web series, it still feels a little out of place for me. Plus, there are only two wicks for that page on this wiki.
Edited by FirstnameIopenExplaining why an actor wasn't rehired Videogame
On the VideoGame.Persona 3 Reload page, I have twice had to edit the entry under Remake Cameo as other users have added the detail that Vic Mignogna wasn't rehired due to the allegations made against him whilst linking to Role-Ending Misdemeanor.
Obviously, Role-Ending Misdemeanor is Trivia and doesn't belong on the page. For the time being I have removed note of the allegations due to a lack of relevancy to the project - is that the right course of action, or is it fair to leave the explanation without linking to the trope?
openPermission to remove links Videogame
On Characters.Trails Series Calvard Arkride Solutions Office, there are a few external links that I feel ate unneeded. Here they are below (bolded)
- Delinquent: His page on Daybreak's official website describes him as the de-facto leader of aggressive youths.
- Her Grimcats costume is mostly transparent and seems to be designed to show off how buxom her chest really is◊.
For the former, the website in question is Japanese and I feel like many people visiting the page wouldn't understand (discounting Google translate). The second (imo) kinda feels lewdish because it links to a pic to a fanservicey shot of a woman's chest.
However, they might add to some context so I want to ask before doing anything with them.
openAre these examples really correct? Videogame
I found these Ice Magic Is Water wicks on Characters.Trails Series
Characters.Trails Series Crow Armbrust
- Ice Magic Is Water: His secondary element is water and his Freezing Bullet Craft in the first game had him fire a round that triggered an ice explosion for magic damage.
Characters.Trails Series Crossbell Special Support Section (Tio)
- Ice Magic Is Water: Her primary element is water and her Absolute Zero Craft and Ether Debuster S-Craft has her transform her Orbal Staff into a Chainsaw-Grip BFG and release an icy explosion to inflict magic damage.
Characters.Trails Series Erebonia Ironblood (Claire)
- Ice Magic Is Water: Her primary element is water and her Frigid Rain Craft has her conjuring and shooting a large block of ice to do magic damage.
Trails Series Erebonia Thors Class VII New (Musse)
- Ice Magic Is Water: Her primary element is water and her Brilliant Shot S-Craft has her encasing the enemy in a flower made of ice before firing a Reflecting Laser at them.
Trails Series Ouroboros (Vita)
- Ice Magic Is Water: Her secondary element is water and her Frozen Prison Craft has her encasing the enemy in ice to inflict magic damage.
For some context, each of the characters in the Trails Series have some starting elements (one primary one and one secondary one) in their orbal arts (the series' magic system) via whatever technology they have that can be freely customised if the player desire to. Meanwhile crafts are the characters special skills and some are magic based but freely independent of orbal stuff.
None of the examples listed above correlate that their crafts are water based (then turning to ice) but rather saying that they are tied to certain element and their crafts happen to be ice. Additionally, the orbal arts page of the wiki has some water arts that turn them into ice. So this is also more of a general thing rather than a character specific one.
However, I could be wrong so would more opinions on this.
openwhat exactly would u call this Videogame
the draenai from Wo W had a second subrace introduced called something like, i dunno, handsome draenai, and they were implicated to have always existed in the world when in previous versions of the game they were never present sort of under the idea that "oh they were always there, but you never noticed them" like something being put into a world atemporally?
openEndings Italicization Videogame
I've noticed that on The Stanley Parable, the endings are often italicized (ex: Confusion ending, Zending ending, etc.). I feel like this might not be correct since as far as I'm aware, only work titles should be italicized, not parts of works? What's the correct formatting?
openGenshin Impact YMMV getting long Videogame
When I was adding a little bit to the ymmv page for Genshin Impact, I noticed a suggestion box on the edit page. I am guessing it is time to look into making some more YMMV pieces their own pages. The question is which ones are big enough to warrant their own pages that haven't already been made their own?
Looking through it so far, most of the "That One" ymmvs could be their own pages or be on one page of their own.
Edited by ZerukinopenPersona 3 Reload Videogame
I've noticed Persona 3 Reload has own page. Persona 4 Golden and Persona 5 Royal weren't separated despite having story deviations, so there's a bit inconsistency. While it's understandibly a remake, the content will be the same for the most part, so where's the threshold?
Edited by AmonimusopenCrosswicking new work not working? Videogame
Hey, I've just recently joined to create a page for a work I really love, and it's been going pretty smoothly so far, but I've recently run into a problem...
My work is Video Game/Edain, but the text only link Video Game for some reason...
The normal link works fine, check it out: https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/VideoGame/Edain
What am I doing wrong?
openDogwhistle on Memetic Mutation Videogame
So i was reading the YMMV page for the cancelled Video Game/Hyenas, and i came across the following example of memetic mutation:
- JOIN THE ACK- explanation At the end of the announcement trailer for the game, the slogan "JOIN THE PACK" is supposed to be displayed. However, due to the fact that You Tube puts the thumbnail of the next recommended video on the screen at the end of every video, said thumbnail ends up covering the word "PACK" and turning it into "ACK"—a common exclamation for sudden dismay or frustration—making it seem like the writer of the slogan got into some unfortunate incident and couldn't finish writing it. The abrupt cancellation of the game itself just adds to it.
The part "common exclamation for sudden dismay or frustration—making it seem like the writer of the slogan got into some unfortunate incident and couldn't finish writing it. " really bugged me, this whole sentence felt really weird. That feels terribly specific and it's overall just a clunky piece of writing.
So i decided to investigate on google for "hyenas "join the ack" " and my suspicious were validated, all of the results containing the phrase where from Kiwi Farms and 4chan, with true context of this "Ack" that the troper pretends it's a "common exclamation for sudden dismay or frustration—making" was actually a mockery of the suicide of transgender individuals, one other example of "join the ack" that i found was an steam user making a community post with this as the title and going full transphobe.
Now, the point i'm trying to make is that based on my research, there is absolutely no way KB Zheng 123 didn't know what the context of that was about, which means they intentionally and knowingly added a transphobic joke to the site and tried to pass off as a regular joke, and that requires action by the moderators, as there should be zero tolerance for transphobia and transphobic users in this site.
openCategorizing custom level series Videogame
I've got a question about a few work pages that I want to eventually create. I'm planning to cover some fan-made storylines of custom levels in the music bullet hell game Project Arrhythmia - these level series have stories behind them, original characters, an ongoing plot, and such.
Should these be listed as Video Game pages or Fanfic? I thought they'd count more as fanfic at first, but then I saw fan-games were listed as videogames - that makes sense, obviously, but you could consider a level series to be a sort of fan-game inside the game, I guess.
Edited by DXL44open(TS!US spoilers) should i add this to temmie's folder? Videogame
in the recently released second demo of ts underswap, three out of six of the shadowy temmies had their designs revealed, and all seem to have distinct personalities. should we add them to temmie's character folder?
Edited by icecycle
If I want to crosswick/add a Visual Novel example in a trope page and it doesn't have a Visual Novels folder or subpage, should I create it myself, or should I put the VN under Video Games?
In the case that the Video Games folder already contains some VNs, is it better to move them to a new Visual Novels folder, or to leave it like that and add my example there?
Edited by animuacid