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openAre these examples really correct? Videogame
I found these Ice Magic Is Water wicks on Characters.Trails Series
Characters.Trails Series Crow Armbrust
- Ice Magic Is Water: His secondary element is water and his Freezing Bullet Craft in the first game had him fire a round that triggered an ice explosion for magic damage.
Characters.Trails Series Crossbell Special Support Section (Tio)
- Ice Magic Is Water: Her primary element is water and her Absolute Zero Craft and Ether Debuster S-Craft has her transform her Orbal Staff into a Chainsaw-Grip BFG and release an icy explosion to inflict magic damage.
Characters.Trails Series Erebonia Ironblood (Claire)
- Ice Magic Is Water: Her primary element is water and her Frigid Rain Craft has her conjuring and shooting a large block of ice to do magic damage.
Trails Series Erebonia Thors Class VII New (Musse)
- Ice Magic Is Water: Her primary element is water and her Brilliant Shot S-Craft has her encasing the enemy in a flower made of ice before firing a Reflecting Laser at them.
Trails Series Ouroboros (Vita)
- Ice Magic Is Water: Her secondary element is water and her Frozen Prison Craft has her encasing the enemy in ice to inflict magic damage.
For some context, each of the characters in the Trails Series have some starting elements (one primary one and one secondary one) in their orbal arts (the series' magic system) via whatever technology they have that can be freely customised if the player desire to. Meanwhile crafts are the characters special skills and some are magic based but freely independent of orbal stuff.
None of the examples listed above correlate that their crafts are water based (then turning to ice) but rather saying that they are tied to certain element and their crafts happen to be ice. Additionally, the orbal arts page of the wiki has some water arts that turn them into ice. So this is also more of a general thing rather than a character specific one.
However, I could be wrong so would more opinions on this.
openwhat exactly would u call this Videogame
the draenai from Wo W had a second subrace introduced called something like, i dunno, handsome draenai, and they were implicated to have always existed in the world when in previous versions of the game they were never present sort of under the idea that "oh they were always there, but you never noticed them" like something being put into a world atemporally?
openEndings Italicization Videogame
I've noticed that on The Stanley Parable, the endings are often italicized (ex: Confusion ending, Zending ending, etc.). I feel like this might not be correct since as far as I'm aware, only work titles should be italicized, not parts of works? What's the correct formatting?
openGenshin Impact YMMV getting long Videogame
When I was adding a little bit to the ymmv page for Genshin Impact, I noticed a suggestion box on the edit page. I am guessing it is time to look into making some more YMMV pieces their own pages. The question is which ones are big enough to warrant their own pages that haven't already been made their own?
Looking through it so far, most of the "That One" ymmvs could be their own pages or be on one page of their own.
Edited by ZerukinopenPersona 3 Reload Videogame
I've noticed Persona 3 Reload has own page. Persona 4 Golden and Persona 5 Royal weren't separated despite having story deviations, so there's a bit inconsistency. While it's understandibly a remake, the content will be the same for the most part, so where's the threshold?
Edited by AmonimusopenCrosswicking new work not working? Videogame
Hey, I've just recently joined to create a page for a work I really love, and it's been going pretty smoothly so far, but I've recently run into a problem...
My work is Video Game/Edain, but the text only link Video Game for some reason...
The normal link works fine, check it out: https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/VideoGame/Edain
What am I doing wrong?
openDogwhistle on Memetic Mutation Videogame
So i was reading the YMMV page for the cancelled Video Game/Hyenas, and i came across the following example of memetic mutation:
- JOIN THE ACK- explanation At the end of the announcement trailer for the game, the slogan "JOIN THE PACK" is supposed to be displayed. However, due to the fact that You Tube puts the thumbnail of the next recommended video on the screen at the end of every video, said thumbnail ends up covering the word "PACK" and turning it into "ACK"—a common exclamation for sudden dismay or frustration—making it seem like the writer of the slogan got into some unfortunate incident and couldn't finish writing it. The abrupt cancellation of the game itself just adds to it.
The part "common exclamation for sudden dismay or frustration—making it seem like the writer of the slogan got into some unfortunate incident and couldn't finish writing it. " really bugged me, this whole sentence felt really weird. That feels terribly specific and it's overall just a clunky piece of writing.
So i decided to investigate on google for "hyenas "join the ack" " and my suspicious were validated, all of the results containing the phrase where from Kiwi Farms and 4chan, with true context of this "Ack" that the troper pretends it's a "common exclamation for sudden dismay or frustration—making" was actually a mockery of the suicide of transgender individuals, one other example of "join the ack" that i found was an steam user making a community post with this as the title and going full transphobe.
Now, the point i'm trying to make is that based on my research, there is absolutely no way KB Zheng 123 didn't know what the context of that was about, which means they intentionally and knowingly added a transphobic joke to the site and tried to pass off as a regular joke, and that requires action by the moderators, as there should be zero tolerance for transphobia and transphobic users in this site.
openCategorizing custom level series Videogame
I've got a question about a few work pages that I want to eventually create. I'm planning to cover some fan-made storylines of custom levels in the music bullet hell game Project Arrhythmia - these level series have stories behind them, original characters, an ongoing plot, and such.
Should these be listed as Video Game pages or Fanfic? I thought they'd count more as fanfic at first, but then I saw fan-games were listed as videogames - that makes sense, obviously, but you could consider a level series to be a sort of fan-game inside the game, I guess.
Edited by DXL44open(TS!US spoilers) should i add this to temmie's folder? Videogame
in the recently released second demo of ts underswap, three out of six of the shadowy temmies had their designs revealed, and all seem to have distinct personalities. should we add them to temmie's character folder?
Edited by icecycleopenTwo similar pages for the Harvest Moon/Story of Seasons series Videogame
Along with my expansion of the data on various Harvest Moon (now Story of Seasons) games, I went and cleaned up the base Story of Seasons page because it was very wordy, had some dated references, and hadn't discussed much on the way the franchise had changed in years. That's when I saw that the base Harvest Moon page says—well, said—the exact same things that the Story of Seasons page says about the split and the game mechanics and plotline, including listing out all the games in the series. However, it's been ten years or so since the name split, and the page seems redundant as it's done right now and could be useful as a page to detail the split and link to the Harvest Moon games by Natsume which are a series in their own right.
Is the base page something that we ought to keep as is, or would it be more practical to turn into a shortened semi-disambiguate page that explains the split in the title and links to both the Marvelous page (now under Story of Seasons) and the Harvest Moon (Natsume) games?
ETA: Notably, the Harvest Moon page links to 633 articles and is often used as a shorthand for older games and the series as a whole before the 2014 name split, which is why I think it ought to remain with some details but stuff that's redundant to the Story of Seasons page be reduced.
Edited by NethiliaopenFallout 4 Brotherhood of Steel Character Page still claims Brotherhood are Nazis. Videogame
A while back, it was declared by Word of Mod that the Brotherhood of Steel, even as envisioned in Fallout 4, do not count as an example of A Nazi by Any Other Name. The issue, along with the associated page featuring heavy, heavy emphasis on the Brotherhood's Fantastic Racism and other flaws, came back up a few years later but stalled out with an at-best limited resolution.
I don't know if any agreement was ever reached elsewhere on the site (it's kinda hard to look back through the archives) but from what I can tell this has just sat there unfixed.
Edited by MinisterOfSinisteropenPolicy re. WMG pages? Videogame
I made an edit to the WMG/Tekken8 page's section speculating on possible guest characters, only for another editor to remove it and another editor's entry to the same section without providing any edit reasons for doing so.
I'm not sure what the policy on WMG pages is, but that rubs me the wrong way so I figured I should at least ask what the proper course of action is here. I've sent them an Edit Reasons message, so hopefully they'll respond regarding why they removed it.
Edited by Arawn999openHM:AWL vs SoS:AWL: Do Character/Game Tropes apply to the Remake? Videogame
selphius and I have been working in harmony on the pages for VideoGame.Story Of Seasons A Wonderful Life and VideoGame.Harvest Moon A Wonderful Life, including character pages (This also includes pages for VideoGame.Harvest Moon DS), discussing things back and forth to try and keep things consistent. However something's come up and I feel like community census will help to make sure we're both on the same page with the community, regarding games being in the same universe so facts from one would apply to others.. Forgive me if this is long, I'm trying to be as clear as possible what the issue is.
Explanation: HM:AWL was released first on the GameCube, later followed by HM:DS/DS Cute on the Nintendo DS. In the Japanese version of DS, it's clear that the characters are the descendants of the HM:AWL characters, not them in a remake version—this is helped by the characters having different names. However, Natsume's English translation gave everyone the exact same names, which made everything confusing about it being a sequel. e.g. Celia's descendant 100 years later is also named Celia, and looks almost exactly like her and lives in the exact same place and everything—and because of the same names, DS/DS Cute can appear like a remake, not a sequel.
Now SoS:AWL is out for the Switch, which is a enhanced remake of said GC game with some changes on some characters, but the same overall in story beats and characterization as HM:AWL. So I'm not sure if this game is considered related to the DS Games at all, being a remake, or should be troped like its own separate universe, even though this interview states a relation between them.
My reasoning is that, for example, the Pokemon Games aren't treated as the same game universes—Fire Red/Leaf Green are remakes of Red/Blue, and so are the Let's Go games, in that they have some of the same gyms and story beats. But things from Red/Blue aren't always applicable to FR/LG or Let's Go, and because they're remakes of the old Red/Blue this doesn't make, say, Let's Go connected to Soul Silver. Another example would be how the Final Fantasy Remake is a remake of FF7, but it's not the exact same universe as that game and almost like a different timeline.
The interview is closer to Word of God. There's no confirmation in game that it's related to DS/DS Cute, just items outside the games relating them and what might be some Easter Eggs. So mentioning that, say, Witch Princess is in DS/Cute and stated there she's lived in the valley for 100s of years doesn't 100% confirm she's in the Switch game.
Can y'all help us make things clear between what's related to DS/Cute and what's not?
Thanks.
Edited by NethiliaopenFoil vs Good/Evil Counterpart vs Shadow Archetype? Videogame
I wanted to ask if these three tropes are all not referring to the same thing. While I don't think we need to remove one, I've noticed a recurring trend of them being used synonymously.
As I understand it, Foil is just a contrast, Good/Evil Counterpart is specifically a villain made to contrast a hero or vice versa depending on who debuted first in real time, and Shadow Archetype is a character that represents a road not taken.
That said, I've seen them be used as synonyms or as redundant entries—an Evil Counterpart by definition is a foil to someone else, for example.
For example, Steven Universe's character page listed off several characters as both foils and Evil Counterparts, most notably Jasper as compared to Garnet. Same with the Transformers Prime page, or a lot of the character specific trope pages.
How should these be used in the future?
openLanguage change? Videogame
I know for things like American vs. Commonwealth spellings, we do a "first come first serve" basis. But what about things like the Oxford comma or spacing?
Asking because this edit is just that.
openCreating Individual Character Pages Videogame
Hello. I check in about splitting off a trope overdosed character from the general character page and creating their own page. The work they're from has a lot of spin-offs with different interpretations of the character, and his folder gets longer and longer as I add more content from those spin-offs, to the point where it's a little difficult to scroll through to get to the other characters on the same page when editing.
For now, he would be the only character with his own page if I split it off, so I just wanted to get the okay to make a separate page for him.
openRegarding Touhou Spell Carnival... Videogame
If you don't know, Touhou Spell Carnival is a Compile Heart-developed Tactical RPG spin-off that will be releasing on the eighteenth of April for the PS4, PS5, and Nintendo Switch. So this begs the question: should we consider Spell Carnival as an "official" Touhou game since its developer has produced other high-quality Double-A titles, including one that is essentially their SpongeBob SquarePants, or another one of their Fan Games a la Gensou Wanderer or Koumajou Densetsu? Granted, Compile Heart isn't as popular as Nintendo or Sony, but they're far from an indie developer as you can possibly get. And most of the other fan/non Team Shanghai Alice-produced spin-off games are made by either indies or doujin soft companies, which Compile Heart is not.
openTroper has changed all my edits Videogame
9thOutworldsMan has been changing all my edits for the Tales of Arise and Misaimed Fandom pages, most notably the edits I've made in regards to a very polarizing base-breaking moment in the game: the scene of Law stopping Rinwell attacking Almeidrea in blind hatred.
9thOutworldsMan is really adamant in insisting that the game intentionally paints Law as a hypocrite, that Rinwell calls him out for being one, and that the parallel the game sets up between Rinwell and Dedyme is a stretch. They had also removed any instance of the Vengeance Feels Empty trope in regards to Law, despite it being a general consensus in the Tales fandom that the trope is related to both the game's story and Law.
I'm planning on bringing this issue over to the Broken Base Cleanup thread as well since they also changed my edit on the Broken Base: Tales Series page.
On Characters.Trails Series Calvard Arkride Solutions Office, there are a few external links that I feel ate unneeded. Here they are below (bolded)
For the former, the website in question is Japanese and I feel like many people visiting the page wouldn't understand (discounting Google translate). The second (imo) kinda feels lewdish because it links to a pic to a fanservicey shot of a woman's chest.
However, they might add to some context so I want to ask before doing anything with them.