Nier

according to that interview kamiya and yoko are now drinking buddies.

figures. they're both huge trolls anyways

Both of them are also big perverts.

This is amazing news.

AS AM I! but not really.

i also just noticed pretty much every single yoko main character has something go wrong with their eyes...caim gets one of his eyes stabbed by mana (in the sequel he was barely involved in, mind), father nier has some horrible unseen accident involving one, zero has the flower...i wonder what's yorha's deal?

edited 29th Oct '15 9:41:35 AM by wehrmacht

^Don't forget Brother Nier has one of his eyes obscured by his hair.

Which is actually a pretty common trope, usually used to show shyness and a certain emotional and social distance. One of the girls in Negima was like that, as was Hanako in Katawa Shouja and the main character of Persona 3.

Mitsuru in the latter also has that, but in her case it's used more to denote "Style" and "Class" as well as maybe "Elegance". And in Hanako's case, to be fair, she also uses it to hide her scars. So....

Edit: Interesting. But then again, not really surprising.

edited 29th Oct '15 11:00:09 AM by SaintDeltora

he only wears the mask for public appearances. while in the development studio he's probably just a regular guy. there's even a picture of what he actually looks like without his mask floating around on twitter.

edit: here you go.◊ (he's the guy on the left)

edited 29th Oct '15 12:31:34 PM by wehrmacht

You know, when that trailer started, I thought it would just be the same one we got at E3, just with the title revealed.

It was a very pleasant surprise to see Platinum joy.

Oh, so that's what he looks like without the mask.

Huh.

Should we get that before someone goes and deletes it?

As long as it isn't made by the people responsible for the chug-a-thon that was Drakengard 3, I'm happy.

Looking back at the trailer after reading the interview, I'm willing to bet that little bot that follows her around is Navi-inspired.

Judging from the laser balls it was shooting, I suspect it will be the Weiss equivalent, acting both as your Fairy Companion and as your spell book.

Okay, I took the opportunity to take the picture of Taro Yoko unmasked and erased the other guy thanks to Microsoft Paint.

Is it ok if I put it in his Tropes page or would I be doing something unspeakably bad if I did it?

you can do the "click to see him without the mask" thing some pages do, i don't think anybody would really object.

I wonder if any references to Beepy surviving Nier will be made since there's that short story about how he survived and rebuilt himself.

edited 29th Oct '15 8:48:16 PM by OmegaRadiance

oh is there?

if that's the case i wouldn't be surprised if he and emil were the only returning characters.

Ok, I posted Taro's unmasked picture on his trope page. Even though it came a little...off.

Then again, it was my first time doing that, so what ya gonna do?

I really hope we'll end up walking into a house somewhere and find Emil just chilling in someone's shelving unit.

or maybe he lives in a robot crotch now

interview with yoko and saito. intro and outro are in german, but the interview itself is in english.

from the video here are some main points:

and about Yo Rha herself:

So apparently the cloth does have some kind of plot significance, not that it was very hard to guess. you can bet it will be off during the Tear Jerker scenes as a symbol of Yo R Ha's growing humanity or something. what i find especially funny is that raiden in mgr also has a cloth visor lol

after watching the interview myself here's some less important but fun stuff to know:

- reportedly, the reason Yoko does this batshit weird insane stuff is that he finds that modern games can be very well-made but remain unsurprising after about half an hour. Apparently he's interested in Undertale and requested that there be a japanese localization so he can play it :'p

- You might be wondering how it was that this game got greenlit the way it did. Apparently Saito's work on Dragon Quest gave him a LOT of clout, which is why this is a thing. god bless him.

- the Yor Ha 2b is not the same character as the one in the play.

- From the way the interviewer translated yoko's statement, expect Emil to have a cameo role at most. They really want players to be able to play this without needing to have played the first game.

- The interviewer actually asks Yoko how he manages to breath or see anything in the Emil mask

edited 30th Oct '15 8:24:15 PM by wehrmacht

Hey, you guys think Taro Yoko would be willing to do a remake of Drakengard 1 given how he's not too proud of how it turned out initially?

I dunno. From what I understand, retreading worn ground isn't his style.

So....is it too early to wonder just what will Yoko-sensei end up deconstructing this time around?

• Drakengard 1 deconstructed the standard tropes in a JRPG.
• Nie R deconstructed the concept of The Heartless, what happens when an older brother/father has to fight tooth and nail to save his little sister/daughter, and the idea that a setting takes place so far flung into the future that technology and science sounds like magic to everyone.
• And Drakengard 3...um....actually I'm not sure what he deconstructed there. The idea of a Roaring Rampage of Revenge maybe?

So let's see. Our protagonist is a Blindfolded Robot Girl going up against an army of alien robots. What deconstructing mileage can he get out of that?

How about...

• The deconstruction of the gist of a Robot War?
• Deconstructing the idea of What Measure Is a Non-Human?
• The protagonist having Fake Memories because it turns out that the humans are the real bad guys?
• The aliens turning out to be the Grotesqueries or whatever the giant psycho floaty babies from Drakengard 1 were called?
• ...

...actually that's all I can think of at the moment. Anyone else have any theories on how Taro Yoko will eff with our heads this time around?

edited 1st Nov '15 8:02:09 AM by TargetmasterJoe

I'm very sure Yoko will not bother that much with the What Measure Is a Non-Human? because almost everyone has been beating that trope with a crowbar to the point it's begging for mercy.

edited 1st Nov '15 8:06:41 AM by YoKab

it seems like a natural subject to discuss given the subject matter of this game, BUT it was also the main theme of the first game and he doesn't like to do the same thing twice, so i think it might be around but not given the same prominence as in the first game where it explored the concept with monsters, robots, transformed people, sentient objects, etc.

It should turn out the non humans actually don't deserve life.

What if the ending went all Grant Morrison's Animal Man run and had 2B meeting Taro Yoko himself?

Would that be overdoing the weirdness though?