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Peridonyx Since: Jun, 2012
unnoun Since: Jan, 2012
#79877: Oct 7th 2012 at 5:55:06 PM

Word of God confirms Aqua's belief in Eraqus's teachings.

...I think you missed the point of that one. What Word of God was saying was that her belief in his teachings was what enabled her to have a strong enough light in her heart to create the X-Blade. But what Nomura said wasn't that she learned his hate for the Darkness, but his devotion to the Light.

That was part of Eraqus's problem. He grew more focused on getting rid of the Darkness than he was on strengthening the Light. As he died, Eraqus even said that his own Heart was Darkness, and in the Japanese version he literally said he had darkness in his heart, and seemed to believe his was worse than Terra's.

Heartless, like Sora's Heartless, and the Silver Rock, and the Angel Star can use Light magic. Several Dream Eaters use light based attacks and magic.

Eraqus said that he wished he could be rid of the Darkness. And he became so fixated on that that it destroyed him.

Besides. All Aqua would have to do is meet Riku or one of the cute and cuddly Spirit Dream Eaters and she'd find out how awesome the Darkness could be. Problem solved.

...And I'm pretty sure that Aqua and Riku's Ghost Drive Command/Link Style uses Darkness. Or, rather, that Ghost Drive was supposed to be a combination of Darkness and Light, in a Yin-Yang Bomb, Twilight/Dawn style deal.

edited 7th Oct '12 5:58:33 PM by unnoun

Peridonyx Since: Jun, 2012
#79878: Oct 7th 2012 at 6:02:36 PM

[up]Except the issue for Aqua wouldn't be "Dark Is Evil", but rather "since darkness refuses to leave my friends alone, it leaves me no choice".

edited 7th Oct '12 6:12:22 PM by Peridonyx

Khfan429 Since: Aug, 2009
#79879: Oct 7th 2012 at 6:04:15 PM

[up]Sooooo... the glimmer of hope she showed upon being told there was someone who could help her was just a mask, and she's really suffering from PTSD?

... You really think Disney is gonna let them get away with that?

EDIT: Besides, that would ruin the series' attempt to set Sora up as Jesus Christ, with the very mention of his name being able to inspire hope and love in people. tongue

edited 7th Oct '12 6:07:03 PM by Khfan429

X2X Since: Nov, 2009
#79880: Oct 7th 2012 at 6:09:33 PM

[up][up] I think you're really reaching with this...

Besides. All Aqua would have to do is meet Riku or one of the cute and cuddly Spirit Dream Eaters and she'd find out how awesome the Darkness could be. Problem solved.

Assuming, of course, she didn't already bump into Riku off-screen during Days or II. There's only so many ways he could have attained Destiny's Embrace, after all.

Khfan429 Since: Aug, 2009
#79881: Oct 7th 2012 at 6:10:51 PM

[up]Unless maybe Destiny's Embrace is based on his memories/feelings for Kairi... and he and Aqua happen to have roughly the same image of her? tongue

X2X Since: Nov, 2009
#79882: Oct 7th 2012 at 6:15:57 PM

That could be interpreted in one of many ways... several of them wrong. tongue

unnoun Since: Jan, 2012
#79883: Oct 7th 2012 at 6:17:09 PM

This is why the Darkness is amazing and good and perfect and wonderful.

Look at that adorableness. Look at it.

The above link is spoilers for the ending of KH 3 D. And it is also completely adorable. If you do not like adorable Dream Eaters, you are a horrible person.

[up] I fail to see any innuendo in the Destiny's Embrace Keyblade. I suppose you could make a "deflowered" joke, but it would be in very bad taste.

edited 7th Oct '12 6:18:12 PM by unnoun

Peridonyx Since: Jun, 2012
#79884: Oct 7th 2012 at 6:19:28 PM

edited 7th Oct '12 6:23:25 PM by Peridonyx

Khfan429 Since: Aug, 2009
#79885: Oct 7th 2012 at 6:20:03 PM

[up][up]Especially since Aqua met Kairi when she was four... sad

But yeah, how 'bout them Dream Eaters?

edited 7th Oct '12 6:20:17 PM by Khfan429

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#79886: Oct 7th 2012 at 6:20:40 PM

Riku, at least at one point, thought of Kairi in a potentially romantic sense.

So, if Aqua has the same memories of Kairi...

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Khfan429 Since: Aug, 2009
#79887: Oct 7th 2012 at 6:24:13 PM

Potentially romantic being the operative word. We still don't know for certain, and people could definitely argue he was just being protective... the same as Aqua.

STOP RUINING MY CINDERAQUA SHIPPING WITH KAIQUA NONSENSE PLEASE THANK YOU.

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#79888: Oct 7th 2012 at 6:24:28 PM

Relevant to Enlong's post.

edited 7th Oct '12 6:25:12 PM by Serenitas

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Peridonyx Since: Jun, 2012
#79889: Oct 7th 2012 at 6:27:58 PM

True, Aqua's known for being a Wide-Eyed Idealist.

At least until Master Xehanort gets yet another Kick the Dog-moment in Kingdom Hearts III (complete with more Evil Gloating), which inadvertently causes Aqua to go into Tranquil Fury-mode against both him and darkness (she's at least Genre Savvy enough to know that Unstoppable Rage won't work in this case).

edited 7th Oct '12 6:32:34 PM by Peridonyx

Khfan429 Since: Aug, 2009
#79890: Oct 7th 2012 at 6:29:07 PM

[up]Aqua is not going to be the one to deal with Master Xehanort. That is Sora's job, or if not Sora, it is going to be Terra, as no one deserves it more. Also, by that point she will have her friends back so even if Master Xehanort pissed her off that much they would reign her in and bring her back to seeing sense just like Sora did with Riku.

edited 7th Oct '12 6:30:53 PM by Khfan429

X2X Since: Nov, 2009
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#79892: Oct 7th 2012 at 6:31:58 PM

Cinderaqua? Pfah. Everyone knows that Cindererra is totally canon. Prince Who?

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Peridonyx Since: Jun, 2012
#79893: Oct 7th 2012 at 6:31:59 PM

That's actually what's so great about it: no one expects freaking Aqua to finish Master Xehanort, let alone in such a Kick The Son Of A Bitch-fashion.

edited 7th Oct '12 6:32:45 PM by Peridonyx

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#79894: Oct 7th 2012 at 6:33:04 PM

No-one expects it because it makes no gorram sense.

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Khfan429 Since: Aug, 2009
#79895: Oct 7th 2012 at 6:35:06 PM

[up][up][up]I'm sorry, I couldn't hear you over the sound of Aqua's hand on Cinderella's butt for an extended period of time.

[up][up]No, that's not what would make it great, that's what would make it a hack decision and pull Sora's status as the hero right out from under him. Aqua is probably the most popular and least polarizing of the original female characters in Kingdom Hearts, they're not suddenly going to derail her into a murderer.

edited 7th Oct '12 6:35:37 PM by Khfan429

Peridonyx Since: Jun, 2012
#79896: Oct 7th 2012 at 6:35:55 PM

[up]Sympathetic Murderer, actually.

Plus, Sora would still be the hero; he'd just have to face her in a Get A Hold Of Yourself Man-Boss Battle.

edited 7th Oct '12 6:37:07 PM by Peridonyx

Khfan429 Since: Aug, 2009
#79897: Oct 7th 2012 at 6:38:47 PM

[up]Doesn't matter, it's still Character Derailment and Disney likely wouldn't allow it.

Listen, I'm not trying to sound like a jerk or anything, but the primary reason you're not likely to convince anybody else here of this is the fact that it lacks in-series support, and in fact clearly flies in the face of what we've seen of Aqua's character so far. If you believe it, that's fine, but it's really not plausible enough for me to believe it.

edited 7th Oct '12 6:38:59 PM by Khfan429

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#79898: Oct 7th 2012 at 6:45:55 PM

Kaiqua? Not if I can help it, Kaaqua all the way!

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#79899: Oct 7th 2012 at 6:46:36 PM

Kaaqua? Not if lawyers can help it!

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Khfan429 Since: Aug, 2009
#79900: Oct 7th 2012 at 6:47:51 PM

[up][up]Don't you dare... I could've sworn we all agreed we'd never speak of that again...

Namine must have screwed with our memories again. sad


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