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rmctagg09 The Wanderer from Brooklyn, NY (USA) (Time Abyss) Relationship Status: I won't say I'm in love
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#107151: Jul 9th 2014 at 9:07:47 PM

Some kids I knew back in elementary school did.

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Anomalocaris20 from Sagittarius A* Since: Sep, 2010 Relationship Status: Love blinded me (with science!)
#107152: Jul 9th 2014 at 9:22:01 PM

I think I named him ???. I think I did it to be a smartass, though, not out of confusion.

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Smasher from The 1830's, but without the racists (Don’t ask) Relationship Status: The best thing that ever happened to a bum like me
#107153: Jul 9th 2014 at 10:09:43 PM

Does N count as a rival? He shows up just as often as Cheren and Bianca, plus he's the other dragon's choice.

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Chariot King of Anime Since: Jul, 2014
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#107155: Jul 9th 2014 at 10:16:26 PM

I personally don't count N as a rival but as a reoccurring antagonist.

BadWolf21 The Fastest Man Alive Since: May, 2010
The Fastest Man Alive
#107156: Jul 9th 2014 at 10:32:50 PM

N is the leader of Team Plasma. Yes, I know not really, but the game treats him that way until the very end when Ghetsis challenges you out of nowhere.

Vertigo_High Touch The Sky Since: May, 2010
Touch The Sky
#107157: Jul 9th 2014 at 11:08:23 PM

He's definitely a rival and probably the biggest one. The idea that one can't be a rival and villain at the same time is silly and most rivals in videogames usually are villains at some point or another.

Now you can say he's unique among the pokemon rivals in that he's both, but I'd definitely consider him a rival and the only one since blue to beat the pokemon league.

BadWolf21 The Fastest Man Alive Since: May, 2010
The Fastest Man Alive
#107158: Jul 9th 2014 at 11:10:59 PM

By that logic, shouldn't Cyrus be a rival, too?

Anomalocaris20 from Sagittarius A* Since: Sep, 2010 Relationship Status: Love blinded me (with science!)
#107159: Jul 9th 2014 at 11:38:30 PM

I don't really consider him a rival or a villain team leader (Even if he technically is the latter). I just consider him a unique opponent who defies classification.

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Smasher from The 1830's, but without the racists (Don’t ask) Relationship Status: The best thing that ever happened to a bum like me
#107160: Jul 9th 2014 at 11:55:12 PM

N is kind of like Green/Blue/Gary in the since that he's your opposite and he gets everyone before you do and gets Resh/Zek while you get Zek/Resh. Except Blue/Green/Gary is a jerk and N is just awkward and not good with people.

Pulse The Fool from Yadayadaville Since: May, 2011 Relationship Status: Maxing my social links
The Fool
#107161: Jul 10th 2014 at 2:04:58 AM

Cheren is the Blue of the game, really, being a very competitive childhood friend who uses the starter yours is weak to.

I sure said that!
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#107162: Jul 10th 2014 at 4:23:11 AM

I also named Silver ??? and remember being dumbfounded because I was sure I didn't get his name.

And I actually like how they handle naming Silver, although it doesn't make as much sense in the originals.

ultimatepheer Since: Mar, 2011
#107163: Jul 10th 2014 at 4:24:20 AM

[up][up]Then what does that make Bianca?

Because she's the one who gave me trouble, not Cheren.

edited 10th Jul '14 4:24:33 AM by ultimatepheer

Hashil Since: Aug, 2010
#107164: Jul 10th 2014 at 4:29:10 AM

Bianca would be the NPC Brendan/May of Gen 5.

She's just as competent (if not more) than Cheren, but because Cheren's already got the hyper competitive rival angle covered, they gave her a more passive role because she's a cute girl.

FullMoon feeling blue from Surface Since: Jul, 2012 Relationship Status: Shipping fictional characters
feeling blue
#107165: Jul 10th 2014 at 6:09:21 AM

I always found Bianca harder to defeat than Cheren. She's also ridiculously adorable and I like her character so favorite rival.

DonaldthePotholer from Miami's In-State Rival Since: Dec, 2009 Relationship Status: Married to the job
#107166: Jul 10th 2014 at 8:23:48 AM

N can be argued as being the closest thing the series has to an Evil Counterpart. He's Well Intentioned, just like you supposedly are, but his ideas are formed from flawed premises that were manipulated by Ghetsis. Additionally, he's the only Team Leader that's in the Competence Zone... which may explain how he was able to beat Alder...

Evil Counterparts make the best Rivals after all.

Did Tierno have any Shut Up, Hannibal! moments in-game? For some reason, I got the idea that he would've been the one of the five to best resist any We Can Rule Together and We Are Not So Different lines. Also, he seems to fit better in previous generations due to the Contests/Musicals.

edited 10th Jul '14 8:29:27 AM by DonaldthePotholer

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Vertigo_High Touch The Sky Since: May, 2010
Touch The Sky
#107167: Jul 10th 2014 at 11:09:38 AM

Cheren with simisage was a lot harder for me than Bianca has ever been.

I've been swept by Cheren before but never lost to Bianca.

BagofMagicFood Since: Jan, 2001
#107168: Jul 10th 2014 at 10:06:38 PM

You'd better name Questionmarkquestionmarkquestionmark correctly, or you'll be guilty of lying to the police!

Trip Since: Mar, 2012
#107169: Jul 10th 2014 at 10:51:55 PM

why does the player character get a limit of 7 characters in their name

but the pokemon get 10

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Smasher from The 1830's, but without the racists (Don’t ask) Relationship Status: The best thing that ever happened to a bum like me
#107170: Jul 10th 2014 at 11:53:49 PM

Because the game isn't called player character.

Trip Since: Mar, 2012
#107171: Jul 11th 2014 at 12:46:27 AM

That doesn't make sense. At all.

And then there was silence
Kurgy Since: Feb, 2013
#107172: Jul 11th 2014 at 2:14:16 AM

Some strange form of traditionalism/oldschoolism/genwunnerpurims?

BlackYakuzu94 CHADhan Player. from Easy Coast/NY Since: Jun, 2013 Relationship Status: Longing for my OTP
CHADhan Player.
#107173: Jul 11th 2014 at 5:12:32 AM

I dunno, you'd think we'd have unlimited space by now.

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YamiiDenryuu doot from You know, that place Since: Jan, 2010 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
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#107174: Jul 11th 2014 at 7:46:50 AM

In the japanese games, it was actually seven for the hero and five for the Pokemon.

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Hashil Since: Aug, 2010
#107175: Jul 11th 2014 at 7:56:46 AM

They dropped that limit for Pokemon in Japan in BW 2.

The limit's 12-ish for everything now, though, right?


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