Wakfu

Obviously, the solution to that is to learn French and watch it without subtitles.

Or do what I do.

Watch without subtitles without knowing any french!

Well-Intentioned Extremist feeling intensifies.

Episode 6 was very Wakfu-esque. Great action, endearing and classy opponent - I don't know how he is dubbed but Ush's French voice is excellent - cut with hints that things are not quite black and white between villains and heroes.

Episode 7 was...how do I put it...a Disney Acid Sequence. The people who wrote it were definitely taking some illegal substances. Also, they have the sense of humor of a five year old - or maybe they just wanted to poke some unsubtle fun to one of the Japanime tropes I hate the most, I dunno. I don't know how much was coincidence and how much came from Ankama being a bunch of nerds, but towards the end Yugo became an interesting mix of Aang and Ahsoka Tano. And then they added some melo at the end. The overall result was quite strange, I won't deny it.

Also, interestingly, after a super Pinpinocentric start of the season, he was totally absent of the last two episodes.

edited 9th Sep '17 5:49:11 AM by Julep

Her butt did get bigger.

Like a cool cat.

edited 9th Sep '17 8:59:35 AM by Chadaman99

Hartman Hips taken to their logical conclusion. I quite like Amalia this season. Still a total Spoiled Brat but who now knows very well when not to behave like that.

Tomorrow should be Sadida and Enutrof, then season finale next week.

Also, the big mystery at the moment which seems to lead towards some kind of The Reveal is Oropo's identity and race/class. He could be Xelor, with the Harebourg-themed clothing and time-bending powers plus seemingly being able to fly - a third Xelor villain without a single heroic one? - but his hat could hide Eliatrope Wakfu wings. I even read a theory about him being Future Yugo.

edited 9th Sep '17 9:39:01 AM by Julep

Episode 8- Arpagone

• My skill at recognizing classical pieces is rusty. I think I recognized Bach's Herz und Mund und Tat und Leben
• I have to add that the soundtrack of this season is stellar.
• Young Ruel had quite the smooth voice.
• Conversely, the slides showing his love life are quite adorable.
• And...the hell?

Episode 9 - Sadida Temple

• I feel like some time travel shenanigans in Oropo's backstory.
• Sadida level #Ghibli.
• And now, Toxine goes Palpatine, one of the missing shout-outs from this season so far. And it works in more ways than one.
• This season will deserve a bingewatch once all episodes are out and I'm not stuck with a fucking horrlble internet connection. Mostly because having to wait one week after that ending is going to be painful.

That chocolate is sitting on a platter for Yugo, but he's to insecure about his body to take it!

Holy fuck that last episode's last moment.

Just caught up. This is season is fantastic.

Game of Death-style setups are my favorite shit, and they're pulling it off pretty well.

edited 13th Sep '17 6:25:07 PM by Eschaton

Oh boy that was messed up. And everyone called it.

Judging from what I read from the French 4chan (aka JVC's 18-25 - I am going to take a long bath in concentrated bleach to clean my soul now) several people called it, but in no way were they a majority.

BIG SPOILERS BELOW, READ ONLY AFTER WATCHING EPISODE 11

The overwhelming majority of people seemed to think - like I did - that this season was similar to The Flash's 3rd, where the hero screwed with time and ended up creating a future version of himself with, let's say some issues. Which would have made Oropo "future Yugo". It was actually heavily hinted throughout episode 10, what with Oropo calling Adamaï "Ad", "brother", and then the final shot of Amalia saying "Yugo?".

But Oropo is actually an Eliotrope, which demonstrates some cross-media mastery from Ankama as those were introduced in Dofus about, what, three years ago? Initially it was because players wanted to play "as Yugo" but the lore utterly forbid it to happen - since, you know, Dofus is a prequel to Wakfu (Joris is a kid, etc) and Yugo wasn't (re)born at the time. So Ank gave a rather strange explanation of them being created by the events of the third OAV and Yugo's interaction with the Dofus. At some point he scratched the fabric of time and allowed Eliotropes to appear. Their particularities, aside from looking like Eliatropes with bleached skin, was to disappear upon their death and being unable to leave a trace in history, but it was mostly seen as a quirk to explain their lack of relevance in the grand scheme of things.

Except that now, they tied everything together. Eliotropes disappear upon death because they merge with the surviving members of their race, and they have a backstory that is linked to Yugo's interaction with the Eliatrope Dofus but not quite time-travel. And their absence from Wakfu also makes sense because at that point, only a handful of them remained, or maybe only Oropo himself.So kudos to Ankama for their expanded universe, especially as they are tying together objects of very different nature - video games, TV shows and mangas/comics.

BIG SPOILERS END, now you can read the whited-out parts without reading stuff that is too important.

• I personally loved Pinpin's idea for his kid's name. Tristegnon is, as Goultard puts it, cute (and it rhymes). Stupid but cute, so very Iop.
• I still don't know for sure what the shapeshifter really is. He doesn't look like a creature I might have seen in the games or the show.
• Echo going all Woman Scorned was a given considering how ep 10 ends. She seems to have talons, so it might not count as a High-Heel–Face Turn but it's close, especially after what she did during ep 10.
• I love Dathura's level musical theme.
• Episode 11 was DBZ to the max, far beyond Adamaï's mere look.

edited 16th Sep '17 3:54:00 AM by Julep

holy fuck those episodes were great.

Damn it people, where can I find perfectly legal means to watch this show?

In France.

Well, that was... something.

Awesome cliffhanger, good season finale.

Need that season 4, I hunger for moar.

Underwear.

Also, the Big Damn Kiss... Is subverted?!

Netflix should soon be a perfectly legal mean to watch the show. And the more people watch it on that platform, the sooner season 4 will air I think.

That "next-gen Brotherhood" looks nice. They're still missing some races to properly replace the Gods.

Various random thoughts:

• Coqueline reminded me of Lilotte in her animation. Which she shouldn't as Ouginak's are supposed to be the responsibility of Ecaflip, not Osamodas. I suppose Little Bit Beastly was at work.
• I realized Toxine was the hidden child of Deadpool and Shego. Was that her at the end with the white skin? She seemed far less crazy than before, maybe her bath did her some good.
• Also, one obvious I previously missed: Rubilax = Migi from Parasyte.
• I really want a season 4 expanding on the past of the demigods that joined the heroes. Ush is already a prominent manga character, but neither Toxine nor Bump or Coqueline ever appeared before.
• Just For Pun, the first word the baby says is "Pain", which is slang for "hit" - hence why it is in Tristepin's name, and why he proposed Tristegnon''", another slang for "hit", as a name for the baby.

edited 17th Sep '17 5:28:04 AM by Julep

It's funny that a hit in French is spelled like it's outcome in English. Les pains font les peines.

Toxine is from Dofus.◊ Mishell is in Dofus and Wakfu.

edited 17th Sep '17 3:14:46 PM by Chadaman99

Kinda related, but Dofus just got an English dub exclusively on VRV

And it's better than the Wakfu dub, that's for sure.

Ooh, I've hoped for a Dofus dub. But it's on VRV? Hmm...

Finally got around to watching the last four episodes. As always the fights are amazingly animated and the best part of this show.

Towards the end of it though it seemed like the show was desperate to preventatively deflect any criticism to the lore, but they just ended up jumping an even bigger shark. It was to the point where Oropo was unnaturally dropping exposition for things that either didn't need any explanation or didn't make any sense. For starters, the sole thing that gave the Eliotropes any logic in the lore, given that they still exist as player characters 10 years before Yugo starts adventuring, was that they explained that Yugo created a split timeline when he used the Eliatrope Dofus. Now Oropo has turned it into a Stable Time Loop. That implies they have to all die off in some kind of disaster or genocide or something, sometime before Yugo's story begins. There's a lot of things I have to assume here, and it's really hard for me suspend my disbelief. The reason for why nobody remembers them is also really weak.

They didn't need to explain Oropo's longevity with the Eliacube. It would have been fine if it was just because of him being an Eliotrope. The Eliacube being responsible begs the question of why he didn't just die during the hundreds of years Nox and Yugo had it in their possession, when Nox died shortly after being apart form it. And inserting him into Nox, Dathura, and Ogrest's backstories, really cheapens their characters, it stretches belief, and makes Dathura's motivations more impersonal. It leaves me questioning how he knew they would do the things they did, and the answer is undoubtedly because he has Yugo's memories of the future, which is just kind of unsatisfying circular logic. It also opens the usual questions of "well why didn't he just stop the current timeline from happening?" that comes with time travel shenanigans.

TLDR: I like it fine. Wakfu was epic as usual. It's good as a mindless popcorn series if you just watch it for the action scenes, and It's cool seeing these characters again. but the time travel stuff just Jumped the Shark. And I kind of wish they'd pit Yugo against a villain who is not a brooding omnicidal maniac. It's a pattern that's gotten really predictable.

edited 20th Nov '17 10:11:48 AM by xanderiskander

Yeah, I love the show, but every season just seems worse. There's too many tie-ins, for one thing.