Thread created as a spin-off of an Ask The Tropers thread
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There have been some recurring problems when it comes to how to refer to a character due to them being potentially transgender, such as Yamato or Snapdragon, or has other circumstances that make their gender identity/pronouns unclear. While in the past each character has gotten their own dedicated thread, the latest problem when it comes to how to interpreted Bridget has raised an opinion that there should be more of a general thread discussing these topics in case any future problems come up. Preferably we should discuss one character at a time before moving up to the next character.
Queries about references to a character's deadname are also on-topic here.
Spoilers in the thread must be tagged.
As a rule of thumb, using they/them in cases where the character's gender is unclear is acceptable.
If someone disregards consensus that was established here, particularly if a character is clearly trans and someone is trying to deny that, it's something to report on Ask The Tropers rather than here.
Spoilers in this "Resolved characters" folder are unmarked.
- General policy on characters who reincarnate/gain new bodies, and have their gender change when they do so (in specific, Eternals (2021), Doctor Who): When discussing a particular incarnation/body, use the pronouns the work and its characters used for the character in that form. When a character has used different pronouns at different times (e.g. for different incarnations), default to they/them pronouns if discussing the character overall. Discussion begins here.
- A from Xenoblade Chronicles 3: Intentionally not addressed by pronouns, use the name A. Discussion begins here
- Acht/Dedf1sh from Splatoon: They/them. Discussion begins here.
- Apep from Genshin Impact: It/its. Discussion begins here.
- Arval from Fire Emblem Warriors: Three Hopes: They/them. Discussion begins here
- Baron Ashura from Mazinger Z: They/them pronouns for their appearance in Super Robot Wars. Discussion begins here.
- Bedman? from Guilty Gear: It/its. Discussion begins here.
- Blitzcrank from League of Legends: They/them pronouns. Discussion begins here.
- Bridget from Guilty Gear: Confirmed to be a trans woman and uses she/her pronouns. Discussion begins in this discussion page thread, then continues in this Ask the Tropers query followed by the first post of this thread.
- Buzam A. "BC" Calessa from Vandread: She/her. Discussion begins here.
- Candy Caramella from Space Goofs: He/him in the original cartoon, she/her when referring to the version of Candy in the spin-off game Stupid Invaders. Discussion begins here.
- Cheese from Sonic the Hedgehog: He/him when referring to the version in the video games, they/them for the version in the IDW comics. Discussion begins here.
- Cho'gath from League of Legends: Both he/him and it/its are fine, as long as the pronoun used is consistent within a given example. Discussion begins here.
- Claude from Claudine: He/him. Discussion begins here.
- Dragona from JoJo's Bizarre Adventure: He/him until more information is given. Discussion begins here.
- Enkidu from Fate Series: They/them. Discussion begins here.
- F.F. from Jo Jos Bizarre Adventure Stone Ocean: They/them pronouns. Discussion starts here.
- FLUDD from Super Mario Sunshine: It/its pronouns. Discussion starts here.
- Funtime Foxy from Five Nights at Freddy's: Intentionally Ambiguous Gender; he/she pronouns. Discussion starts here and continues here.
- Gabriela from Como dice el dicho: She/her, use the name Gabriela. Discussion begins here.
- Gala Laxi from Dragalia Lost: They/them when referring to the combined entity of Laxi and Mascula. She/her when referring to just Laxi, he/him when referring to just Mascula. Discussion begins here.
- Gozer from Ghostbusters (1984): They/them. Discussion starts here.
- Gwyndolin from Dark Souls: He/him pronouns. Discussion begins here.
- Hassan of Intoxicated Smoke from Fate/Grand Order: He/him pronouns. Discussion starts here.
- Heather Swanson from South Park: "She/her" pronouns (Scare Quotes included). Discussion starts here and continues here.
- Hibari from Stop Hibari Kun: She/her pronouns.
- Juniper from Xenoblade Chronicles 3: They/them pronouns. Discussion starts here.
- Kris from Deltarune: They/them pronouns, and is to be treated as nonbinary unless otherwise stated. This decision was made in this thread.
- Lambert from Cult of the Lamb: They/them. Discussion starts here
- Lor from Borderlands: He/him, use the name Lor. Discussion begins here.
- Mangle from Five Nights at Freddy's: Intentionally Ambiguous Gender; he/she pronouns. Discussion starts here.
- Mordred from Fate Series: She/her, with an Ambiguous Gender Identity entry. Discussion starts here.
- Morpheus Duvall from Resident Evil: Dead Aim: They/them on the Resident Evil - Umbrella Corporation character page. Discussion begins here.
- Omochao from Sonic the Hedgehog: They/them. Discussion begins here.
- Osana Najimi from Komi Can't Communicate: They/them pronouns. Discussion begins here.
- Pamela Incu from Welcome to Demon School! Iruma-kun: He/him. Discussion begins here.
- Phantom Mangle from Five Nights at Freddy's: Intentionally Ambiguous Gender; he/she pronouns. Discussion starts here.
- Prized Isshin Blade from Genshin Impact: He/him. Discussion begins here
- Pokémon in general from Pokémon: Gendered pronouns when discussing a specific individual Pokémon, it/its when discussing a Pokémon species in general. Discussion begins here, is continued here.
- La Pucelle from Magical Girl Raising Project: He/him in civilian form, she/her when transformed into a magical girl. Discussion begins here.
- Snapdragon from High Guardian Spice: They/them pronouns. This decision was made in this thread via crowner.
- Stella Lulu from Magical Girl Raising Project: He/him in civilian form, she/her when transformed into a magical girl. Discussion begins here.
- Sui from Campfire Cooking in Another World with My Absurd Skill: It/its. Discussion begins here.
- Takatsuki from Wandering Son: He/him except for when discussing the end of the manga beneath spoiler tags. In that case, she/her. Discussion begins here
- Terri from Amphibia: They/them. Discussion begins here
- Thailand from Scandinavia and the World: They/them, per what's used on this official FAQ page.
- The Toaster from The Brave Little Toaster: He/him pronouns. This decision was made in this thread.
- Topa from The Orville: she/her outside Recap pages, pronouns at time of episode on Recap. Discussion begins here.
- Vennia from Cafe Enchante: Both he/him and they/them are fine, as long as the pronoun used is consistent within a given example. Discussion begins here.
- The vessels (the Knight, the Hollow Knight, the Broken Vessel, and the other void siblings) from Hollow Knight: It/its. Discussion begins here, is continued here.
- Vivian from Paper Mario: The Thousand-Year Door: She/her pronouns. Due to Adaptational Gender Identity, whether she's transgender or cisgender depends on the localization. Discussion begins here.
- Yamato from One Piece: He/him pronouns. This decision was decided in this thread via crowner.
- Yena from Seton Academy: Join the Pack!: He/him pronouns. Discussion begins here.
Edited by Bisected8 on Apr 22nd 2024 at 1:16:38 PM
Tief girl with eartude
I'm very firmly in the "confirmed as a canon trans woman means using she/her" camp.
It's been way too long for me to remember what the show did for her namewise, though.
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She / Her
I haven’t seen it but, since she’s a trans woman, I agree with using she/her.
Friends forevermore
Wait, which character are we talking about?
I had a dog-themed avatar before it was cool.
Big Catch, Sparkle Edition
Helena Handbasket from Friends. Chandler's mother.
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low-poly Shinri
I want to talk about Momo from Eiyuden Chronicle: Hundred Heroes. While they have a the appearance of a young girl, they have a masculine voice and the page the page often changes their pronouns from she/her to they/them.
Here is what their character page says about them:
- Ambiguous Gender Identity: Despite appearing as a girl, Momo doesn't hide the fact that they weren't born as one and looks the way they do because it's "cute". Officially the game classifies them as male. The best way to talk about Momo is that she identifies as "cute," and leave it there.
I haven't yet played the game so I'm not sure what pronouns the game refers to them so I'm discussing here.
She/Her | Currently cleaning N/A
crazed fangirl hunts down theories (she/they)
Haven't played the game myself, but the replies to this Steam community post claim that the game clearly states that Momo is a boy, and is an otokonoko (femboy).
low-poly Shinri
The fact that there are conflicting information about that makes it more difficult. Due to personal experience, I can't tell if the "garbage localization" accusations is a genuine complaint or an agenda made by anti-localizers over what they want and not realizing that some things just can't be translated well without some compromise.
She/Her | Currently cleaning N/A
Friends forevermore
What little I've seen indicates that Momo's a boy in both the Japanese and English scripts and by game mechanics.
I had a dog-themed avatar before it was cool.
I have also not played the game but the information presented so far doesn't seem to have ambiguity about Momo's gender. The Steam thread is complaining about the Wiki (fan source) having Momo as female, but that information was added pre-release and has since been corrected, with the editor who originally made the profile being thankful for the correction. The Twitter post about localization is not about Momo not identifying as a boy, but about Nowa apologizing for making assumptions which isn't in the original. Both versions have Momo say "I'm a boy"
low-poly Shinri
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If that's the case, then he/him for Momo (and maybe add a Dude Looks Like a Lady entry).
An Educated Fool
Just checked the cutscenes, ending convo, character background and epilogue for Momo. He/him pronouns, pretty direct self-identification as a boy, his background is rather coded but I don’t think it rises any further than Rainbow Lens allegory (can see it for yourself here at 39:40: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=2I0AWPQv1Gc ).I think the confusion comes from how he blatantly takes inspiration from Cagliostro, who is transfem. Though on the subject of Granblue characters, I brought up Balurga back on page 55, and since then there's been no real movement on that front, so could we get him added to the resolved folder as well?
Edited by plaiceholda on May 4th 2024 at 11:24:29 AM
Viewer Gender Confusion on the YMMV page seems appropriate too, if it's not already there.
Planeswalker
Asking again to revise Apep's use of it/its pronouns in favor of she/her pronouns since as of patch 4.6 of Genshin she's being gendered with she/her pronouns.
Oissu!
Yeah, she identifies as a woman IIRC
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