No, the other one.
Trope.
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I think this falls under Parlor Games; The Big Bang Theory had Sheldon trying to play a variant (only periodic table elements) with Penny while Leonard was Put on a Bus. Since Penny didn't want to play, he had to do both sides of a Shirtori game, allowing her to win.
Given that this is not a Japanese-exclusive game (I used to play this with my babysitter in the 1990's), I'm not certain it should be a Japanese word. However, I don't recall what the American name for the game was, aside from possibly Alphabet (I don't mean the abc variant of the game).
edited 9th Jan '17 11:45:49 AM by crazysamaritan
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No, the other one.
How is it not a trope?
It's often used to highlight a character's personality (or joke about it). Vocabulary size and usage is one shortcut to showing intelligence, and there are also a few cases of where reflexive use of honorifics screws up their ability to play the game.
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But that's the difference between Chess and Smart People Play Chess.
This should be a useful note. Crossword Puzzle should be a useful note. The trope should be Smart People Play Word Games.
edited 9th Jan '17 8:16:09 AM by Daefaroth
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In fact, Smart People Play Chess explicitly includes other games—notably Go.
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But Smart People Play Shiritori isn't a thing, even idiots Tai in Digimon played it to pass the time adventuring which lead to a joke of him failing even though he started it.
Its used in works to show whats on their mind from boredom, competitiveness and Freudian Slips to their intelligence or Verbal Tics. Its always a tool for personalities to be shown. There are not any exceptions really.
edited 9th Jan '17 12:10:05 PM by Memers
^Which would mostly be Something That Begins with "Boring",.. Wait is that trope really that specific that it is almost entirely about I Spy? There has to be a missing supertrope for so bored that you are reduced to playing things that are generally considered kids games: War, Candyland, or whatever.
edited 9th Jan '17 3:37:44 PM by Daefaroth
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Only the extremely bored examples would be related to that trope.
edited 9th Jan '17 3:39:29 PM by Memers
Just because the example doesn't mention the boredom doesn't mean that it didn't happen that way. The Excel Saga example is played between two characters who have been thrown down in a pit for an undetermined amount of time, so the boredom would apply there.
In any case, the page name is the name of the game and the text is the rules for the game. That's a useful note at best, not a trope. The trope needs to be along the lines of <descriptive> people play <type of games> and the description has to explain what the game says about them.
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Shiritori saying something about those who play it? I don't think fiction plays it that way. Not by how its examples go, at least.
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Useful Note. Make a new trope for the situations mentioned in 36 or redefine Something That Begins with "Boring".
If a tree falls in the forest and nobody remembers it, who else will you have ice cream with?
"Japanese person plays game" is not a trope.
Maybe we need a "stock parlor game" trope that contains shiritori in it.
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We have one, Parlor Games.
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Crowner time? Or are there more arguments people have to make?
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Personally I would like a Useful Notes about the game rules itself, the page right now has a cliffnotes version.
And then make a sister trope to Something That Begins with "Boring" with a few lines on how these can become Serious Business (to the point it gives you superpowers in some works), A hidden game for the reader/viewer to detect, or Theme Naming meaning the writer was bored of being cute.
As well as add how Lost in Translation this trope is, dubbing this will almost always ditch the game for some other word play game or abandon it altogether. And subs usually leave it in with a Translation Note or leave western viewers clueless as to what it is.
It should not be merged because it would completely monopolize the Something That Begins with "Boring" page attempting to explain all that and it is unique enough that it stands on its own.
edited 7th Feb '17 6:28:54 AM by Memers
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Again; the game isn't exclusive to Japan. https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=AmhWwSJDkaw
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No; your Fan Myopia stands. Want to play the game in English? Plenty of websites to tell you how to do it. I cited Big Bang to show that it does appear in Western media, not to show Americans play the game. Here's people explaining or playing the game in English:
- http://www.humorthatworks.com/how-to/first-letter-last-letter/
- http://improvencyclopedia.org/games//Last_Letter.html
- http://www.tudiabetes.org/forum/t/last-letter-first-letter-game/16839
- http://stackoverflow.com/questions/20784114/python-implementing-a-game
- http://www.nomorepanic.co.uk/showthread.php?t=173467
- http://geekmom.com/tag/first-letter-last-letter/
- https://americanenglish.state.gov/8-easy-games-english-olympics
The game isn't "untranslatable". The lack of explanation is inherent to the original work. The game is just people limited to using their own persons to play; no accessories.
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I played the game in english as a kid... in the late 1970s/early 80s.
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There's just too many options on fixing this page. Go ahead, make a crowner and hook it here.
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Assuming none of the options achieve the 2:1 ratio for consensus, the thread will close with no action. More than one option can be enacted (If cutting is highest, only that option will occur).
Not a trope.