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Edited by GastonRabbit on Apr 24th 2024 at 1:49:19 PM
Berserk Button: misusing Nightmare Fuel
It's been nearly a month since the issue with Idiot Programming has been resolved, but the thread isn't closed yet. Should I have notified a mod, or is there another reason why the thread was kept open?
The Unknown
It looks done, should you should have notified a mod. Using the "Holler Mod" button works for this purpose.
edited 24th Nov '17 3:57:20 PM by Karxrida
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Tyrannoraptoran Reptiliomorph
Why was my thread for This Trope Is X declined? ~Septimus Heap, you're right, the pages on the index don't share a word or phrase in their title so it's technically not a Search Generated Index like I claimed. However, it's as useless as an SGI because the tropes themselves (as opposed to their titles) have no common feature. Also, the page claims that the index is for trope titles that are snowclones, which, as I said in the thread, isn't true at all. A work can use most of these tropes without using snowclones of their titles that replace the placeholder.
edited 9th Dec '17 6:47:02 PM by Lymantria
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Well, an index that catalogues tropes based on a trait of their name is not necessarily a problem, which is particularly relevant given the TRS backlog.
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Tyrannoraptoran Reptiliomorph
I thought the reason why Search Generated Indexes were disallowed is because the tropes themselves are not related, only their titles. How is that also not the case here? Also, the description is still wrong. Ignore the backlog for now.
Search-Generated Index says tropes should be catalogued by their relevance, usage and nature, not by their titles.
edited 10th Dec '17 6:27:29 AM by Lymantria
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I am worried that the Casting Gag thread will get locked at the end of the month due to the New Year's Purge. It's gone stale recently; does anyone else want a say on that trope's problem?
Tyrannoraptoran Reptiliomorph
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I'd like a response to my question.
Blapper of Water
Since the article in question is an index, I'm not sure how "broken" it really can be if it's a Search Generated Index. TRS is for tropes that are broken so we can repair them... and even when it isn't a trope, there still needs to be evidence that the article is broken in some way.
It seems like you could ask about that index in ATT rather than taking it to TRS.
That said, I personally don't see this as a searchable thing. If you search for "X" — the common element in most of the names for these tropes — you'll find articles on X-Men, X-23, The X-Fils, Xenoblade Chronicles X... but you won't find, say, Heh Heh, You Said "X".
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Tyrannoraptoran Reptiliomorph
You're completely missing the point. As I said above, tropes should be categorized by their relevance, usage and nature, not their titles. That makes the index useless.
Blapper of Water
I think you missed my point that ATT can handle the issue of "a useless index." As already stated, TRS currently has a backlog so something like that doesn't exactly need a TRS effort...
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Tyrannoraptoran Reptiliomorph
So I should have brought it up in ATT instead of TRS? I get it, except that there's currently an open TRS thread for Hollywood Style, which is an index (and not also a trope like Death Trap).
Barring that, however, I might bring it up in ATT.
edited 24th Dec '17 8:56:01 AM by Lymantria
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Blapper of Water
The issue you brought up for the one index is not equivalent to the one for Hollywood Style. And that thread may have been made before the backlog got bad. There's no need to take it personally???
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Tyrannoraptoran Reptiliomorph
Not equivalent? How so?
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Blapper of Water
They're completely different. Your thread was about the list items. The other thread was about the description.
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Ideally, how many wicks should a trope have in order for it to be renamed?
So, since we were a mite late about the New Year Purge. It will take place on the 7th January 2017. All threads with no activity since November will be closed at that point. Please no contentless bumps, thanks, unless it's to signal progress on a cleanup or an useful addition to a discussion.
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Tyrannoraptoran Reptiliomorph
Why was it not announced previously? Or at least not in this thread or anywhere else I've seen.
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Blapper of Water
People discussing and worrying about it may have caused the mods to consider doing it. There's been an uptick in activity due to the fear of the purge, so it makes sense to give the people what they want. Or at least, that's my guess based on what I've seen around the forums lately.
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The Unknown
I'm going to presume the thread for The Dragon will stick around since that requires a lot of work (some of which has been done) and is too major too close, even though progress stalled a bit in October.
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I don't think so, actually - there has always been concern that the The Dragon effort is a make work project that takes up undue amount of effort.
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Tyrannoraptoran Reptiliomorph
So what should be done with the page, then?
Also, what's a make work project?
edited 3rd Jan '18 8:18:10 AM by Lymantria
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NaNo 4328 / 50,000
https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/make-work
The claim is that fixing the examples of The Dragon is not a productive use of tropers time.
Link to TRS threads in project mode here.
Tyrannoraptoran Reptiliomorph
Elaborate. What should be done with the page, then? Leave it half-fixed?!
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The ball was probably dropped.
edited 21st Nov '17 1:56:05 AM by Karxrida
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