Likes and dislikes about TV Tropes

It's an indecipherable one.

How so, exactly? Some examples would be nice, because everything said in the thread besides some video game talk is crystal clear to me.

It's no more indecipherable than any other clique's discussion.

Aren't the Trash Heap just as clique-y as the Shipping Thread? And they can be very weird at times too (though it is a shitposting thread, so that's to be expected).

Like, if the Shipping Thread is more at home in Troper Covens, then really, there are some threads that would probably fit better into OTC (e.g. the Gun Porn and History threads) What's the difference between a Yack Fest thread, a Troper Coven and an OTC thread exactly?

Yack Fest is the "off-topic"/"general" board where derails are to be expected, troper covens are supposed to be more topical than YF but less srs bsns atmosphere than OTC, and OTC is for serious discussion (mostly) sans derails.

And my use of 'clique' in my previous post wasn't meant to be a negative judgment. It's just pretty much its own sub-community within the forums. The MLP thread was like that when I was part of it, and each RP has its own community, for example.

edited 11th Mar '15 5:23:24 PM by Sixthhokage1

Yeah, I see... I'm just a bit sick of the fact that if people want to complain about a thread, its culture and its people, it's always the Shipping Thread.

Like, I can understand why, but... well, if you'd rather not be a part of that thread, that's fine. We won't force you to join. If you find it too creepy and insular for your tastes, then I disagree, but I still won't force you to join. I like the Shipping Thread because of its quirks that people see as flaws. So, yeah.

And now I'm starting to feel a bit uncomfortable, so this may be my final post on the matter

Well, there's also that whenever I'm looking at what subforums update and when, that thread throws everything off. If I could just ignore it, I would, but because of that, I can't.

Maybe we should have a feature where we make certain threads invisible. Then they wouldn't bother anyone who doesn't care about them.

I wouldn't mind that actually.

There was a userscript for doing that but:

• It requires a browser capable of handling userscripts (whether natively or via extensions)
• It requires editing an array in the script itself with the thread titles
• The site it was hosted on went kaput

Too complicated for something so minor.

For something completely different than the shipping thread, seems like most people here (read: almost all of them) here are obsessed with anime/manga and for those of us who aren't (read: me) find this kinda stifling, tbh.

Really? I find that many people are pretty big gamers, myself.

There are both a lot anime nerds and game nerds here. As someone who's not a big anime fan(Think like 5 years ago was the last time I watched one), it can get pretty annoying, to be honest. I play games so I don't mind the obsession with video games as much, but I can easily see how that would get real annoying real quick.

What I like about the website is its list of tropes and entertaining forums.

What I dislike is how dogmatic some of it can get, I often find myself made quite upset when I read the wiki talk section of the forums. People seem very caught up on the idea that this website should be only for listing tropes and things directly related to that. I'm certainly not saying they are wrong, I do understand that is indeed this websites purpose but I feel that the wiki could be so much more friendly, a better community if you will, if people were more relaxed about such things and if discussion was allowed in more places and there wasn't so much 'remove X' and 'close thread Y'.

I don't think that's a fault in the website though, more of it just differing from how I would want it to be. The most simply way to put it I think would be to say that I consider the wiki to be far too lawfully aligned for my taste, to the point of being something of a principles zealot. Many people seem to want elements they dislike removed rather than coexistence, which I would argue is superior if only to provide more variety and discussion.

Having said that I realise what I describe is probably not what anyone else would want. I'm not saying my ideas are good ones or even that I would change the website if I could, only that I personally would enjoy it more if it was different.

Also I feel the name Tv Tropes itself is rather outdated, to late to change it now I guess but it feels like something of a misnomer to me being that tropes from all different kinds of works are catalogued here.

edited 17th Mar '15 10:17:44 PM by Laicamir

What I like:

... almost everything, actually. The Useful Notes taught me a thing or so, I love to see my favourite series/movies/book being scrutinised and, sometimes, explained, I love being able to gush on the Crowning Moments Of... pages (even though most of the time I'm too late to have something to add), and I love the general informality of the site.

I'm a more recent user of the forum, but I've found nothing to complain about so far in the few threads in which I've been active.

What I dislike:

TV Tropes Will Ruin Your Life and TV Tropes Will Ruin Your Vocabulary occasionally become actual issues for me and the fact that, due to the preferences of the majority of tropers, some pages get plenty of Wiki Magic while others desperately Need More Love

There's also the way the forum becomes active more often while I'm not bored at work checking it every 5 minutes, but I guess that's a problem of timezones, and that some forum topics tend to be a bit harder to get into (or simply understand what they are about).

edited 18th Mar '15 5:29:40 AM by C105

I'll get the dislike out of the way first. I don't like to end things on a bad note.

I admit I'm not a big fan of the tropes Adult Fear and Television Is Trying To Kill Us. Don't get me wrong; there are times I do agree with them, but seeing such serious tropes almost everywhere admittedly affect my patience more than my sense of interest. What, does every story in the world have to have Adult Fear in it?

Now for the like. I'm very thankful for all the friends I've made here. You folks make this forum a very fun place to hang out in. :) And this forum does a superbly better job of it than Commercials I Hate.

Gotta say, I'm digging this new Night Vision mode, though the choice of color scheme (dat lime green and pastel purple out of MS Paint's default colors, yo) toes the line a bit too much toward a Geo Cities site.

I like the relaxed atmosphere on this site and the wide range of topics on the forums. It helps that most places I've heard bad things about (like the shipping thread, and someone also mentioned something about an anime fetish thread, seriously!?) are places I pretty much never actually visit.

As for dislikes, many of the YMMV pages (Wham Episode, Nightmare Fuel and the like) are filled with such a massive number of not-really-examples that it destroys the point of the page. To take some examples from My Little Pony: Friendship Is Magic (which is by far the biggest offender on the site) the Heartwarming page lists pretty much every single instance of one character being nice to another character in the entire show. The Nightmare Fuel page meanwhile lists examples like "this one character was angry in one episode" and "there was an instance of Cartoon Physics where physics didn't work as usual". The Homestuck Wham Episode page meanwhile starts out decent (it was pruned a while ago before many of the more recent entries were made) but then devolves into "list every single plot development ever"; including but not limited to the introduction of a character whose existence and nature had already been made clear previously, two characters meeting each other and two characters kissing (no relation to the first two). This is pretty sad because Homestuck contains a lot of legitimately shocking moments that are now drowned out by all this minor stuff.

edited 10th Apr '15 5:05:37 PM by Druplesnubb

I've got to agree - and some works like Fi M having separate pages just for say shipping is more than a little irksome. Why exactly do we need to know that a few ship two characters who have barely met? We can basically trim out some of those and it seems stupid to have them in many instances.

Can...can I hug you?

Which means I just have to add - there's a certain Fan Myopia generally present on the site, and it generally doesn't help many pages which assumes everybody MUST be a fan of a work to read say a YMMV page. With many less popular works this isn't an issue, but there seems to be an issue that some fans just can't admit not everybody is a fan of say Firefly or House of Leaves. Some do try and stop that, which is the flip side to this and something I do like - that many fans of various works do at least try to make sure works pages aren't so hard to decipher for non-fans, and will go out of their way to explain things without looking down on non-fans.

It's mostly anime, video games, and western cartoons that seem to be the biggest things here.

In contrast, the Comics, Live Action TV, and Live Action Movies subforums don't seem to be as active (ESPECIALLY comics).

it doesn't really bother me as a big fan of all of those things, though i guess i can see why that would be bothersome to someone who isn't.

Anyway I guess my biggest like about tvtropes is that it's one of the most culturally diverse websites i've ever seen. I really don't know why it is that nerds fluent in english just seem to gather here from everywhere, but it's very different from any other forum i've been to where the majority of people are north americans, with the occasional european here and there.

Music is not too active as well (on the other hand, Live-Action Films has been increasing a bit - I should know). And, of course, let's not even talk about, say, Radio or Live Performance, which are basically the barely known niche of TVT.

edited 10th Apr '15 1:32:26 PM by Quag15

I'm glad one dislikable thing is no longer around: the Depressing Tropes page. Not just for the reasons given on the Permanent Red Link Club page, but also reading that thing was a Self-Demonstrating Article. Good riddance, I say.