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Website.Sexypedia Wiki

Is there a reason to keep it?

If there's no original writing and it just lists tropes (archetypes) that apply with reasoning, I personally don't think it's tropable.

If it's decided that the page should be cut, do you think that a Useful Notes or Just For Fun page for the Tumblr / Fandom Sexyman phenomenon in general would be allowed?

Edited by Akkun_K on Sep 23rd 2023 at 5:06:24 AM

Does it need further explanation than what Memes.Tumblr has?

Personally I think it has value in a Books on Trope way, as many of the qualifications it uses to describe what counts as a "sexyman" are taken from this website, or at least fit into existing tropes, while still having their own site-specific definitions.

I'm currently thinking that Know Your Meme deserves to keep its page here for similar reasons.

On another subject, Blog.Little Green Footballs is technically not in the Website/ namespace, but... who thought this having a TV Tropes page would be a good idea?

Edited by Prfnoff on Sep 24th 2023 at 8:39:43 AM

That was my thought when I started up the page. Speaking of, now that you mention it, do you think I should add the page to that index if it's decided it can stay?

I feel like if such a page were to be made, it could be used to give a brief history of how the phenomenon started and give further analysis. For example, I feel like something that could be touched upon is the common misconception that a Sexyman can't be conventionally attractive; they can, but they need to have something to them that would make the average person question the sanity of their admirers. I like to call it the "But Wait..." Factor (i.e. "But wait, why are so many people obsessed with this cartoon skeleton?"^note Sans "But wait, isn't he from a Dr. Seuss movie?"^note The Once-ler "But wait, isn't he just one of several villagers with the same personality that you can have on your island of talking animals?"^note Raymond).

Edited by Akkun_K on Sep 24th 2023 at 12:45:30 PM

What to do with Konoha Corner? It seems to me that at least half the entries are troping real people and there's plenty of stuff commented out, but it seems they were doing some sort of roleplay so in principle there is something tropable. However before I do some cleanup, I want to know if it's worth keeping the page at all, because the podcast itself seems to have gone. I have messaged the last to edit the page asking if they know of any other source.

Their Youtube and Wordpress are still up, and the links have been changed. So availability is not a concern.

However I am still unsure about such entries as:

• Ascended Fanboy: Kiba, better known on Tvtropes as Takashi 0, has been appointed as the groups official AMV creator and Tvtropes article editor for creating this very page.
• Gender Bender: The ratio of women who pose as male characters to men portraying male characters is rather unbalanced. (Maybe Cross-Dressing Voices?)

• Implies existence of the wiki article qualifies for fan ascension and I dislike when TV Tropes is viewed like that. Also, probably more importantly, that trope is IUEO.
• I don't think that fits, either. Crosscast Role? It's lacking context.

Edited by Tabs on Sep 27th 2023 at 7:35:34 AM

Neither of those is a narrative trope anyway.

I removed any tropes that seemed to be applied to real people instead of the roleplay they engage in.

Do Virtual Pet sites go in Website/ or VideoGame/? I feel like they should be in the latter. We have these in VideoGame/ already: Celestial Vale, Flight Rising, OviPets, Pixel Cat's End, among others - I think the rest should follow suit. I don't mind handling it myself.

• Chicken Smoothie
• Dragon Adopters
• Dragon Cave
• Lioden
• Neopets
• Petpet Park
• PokéFarm
• Subeta
• Sylestia
• UniCreatures
• Wajas
• Wolvden

Neopets has been debated multiple times and current consensus is that it belongs in Website/ because it's fully HTML browser based aside from a few old flash elements such as the side games and animations. IDK about the others (though Petpet Park is a spinoff of it)

Edited by WarJay77 on Oct 3rd 2023 at 1:01:59 PM

Well, the same can be said for most of the sites I listed that are already in Video Game. I don't really mind either way, I just wish they were consistent

I think VideoGame.Duolingo should be in Website/, too. That's where it started, isn't it?

I didn't even know Duolingo had other platforms.

But I'm not too concerned over consistency. It should be based on the work itself and what's emphasized, not so much the genre of "virtual pet game". Like I said, Neopets in particular is very much just a website, it has gameplay but you're exploring a website built in HTML. I can't speak for the others, but ones that are similar to it should likely also be in website/. Ones that are more traditionally game-like should probably be Video Game/

Probably. And is it even a game? Last time I've checked Duolingo had nothing but quizes with "play every day" scoring.

One could consider the quiz structure to be like a video game due to its presentation.

Don’t forget the stories Duolingo sometimes uses to teach languages. As someone familiar with it, I’m fine with it being in Video Game/.

You may be right. Just don’t delete the page entirely, because it’s clearly tropable in multiple ways.

Edited by Lymantria on Oct 6th 2023 at 12:53:42 PM

Telling stories to teach people isn't a video game or even necessarily a visual novel thing, happens in my school text books all the time. I'd prefer it go to Website/.

Edited by AudioSpeaks2 on Oct 6th 2023 at 12:47:55 PM

I second that opinion, also, several posts up with the virtual pet thing, i would like to bring up Akinator. Started out as just a web game but later got a mobile port that i am pretty sure introduced at least a new trope or two. Should that go into the video game namespace instead?

Yes, it's always been a game.

Alright, also i came across a useful notes related thread https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=16774558610A31578400&page=6#144

So the platform namespace was proposed for some stuff, and websites came up. The last post stated it would require crowner activity and i think that relates to here

Basically the idea Adem came up with was

"if the website itself has 5 fully context tropes or more then it'd website and platform as a redirect otherwise it's platform as the main one and website we the redirect"

Edited by AudioSpeaks2 on Nov 11th 2023 at 6:25:31 PM