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Lightysnake Since: May, 2010
#51: Nov 10th 2014 at 2:00:16 PM

Gonna have to side with Born on this. This isn't just making the best of a bad situation, it's actively choosing to accept something terrible and it leaves one with a bad taste to say the least.

maxwellelvis Mad Scientist Wannabe from undisclosed location Since: Oct, 2009 Relationship Status: In my bunk
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#52: Nov 10th 2014 at 4:50:31 PM

And considering that unlike Arachne, Medusa didn't do anything wrong (Poseidon raped her in a temple of Athena, but Athena punished HER instead) and can't even look at someone without killing them, no there's no reason for her to accept this. She wound up alone in a cave far away from anyone else when Perseus killed her.

Of course, don't you know anything about ALCHEMY?!- Twin clones of Ivan the Great
BagofMagicFood Since: Jan, 2001
#53: Nov 10th 2014 at 6:15:02 PM

So we're sure they're not using a version of the story where she was like that all along?

CassidyTheDevil Since: Jan, 2013
#54: Nov 24th 2014 at 1:18:10 AM

Anyway yeah, Medusa is now synonymous with "hot freaky snake chick" nowadays, AFAIK. It's not considered a tragedy to look freaky like that anymore.

maxwellelvis Mad Scientist Wannabe from undisclosed location Since: Oct, 2009 Relationship Status: In my bunk
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#55: Nov 24th 2014 at 9:05:08 AM

The tragedy is now in her isolation. I don't know when the shift happened, even Jim Henson portrayed Medusa as irredeemably evil back in the 80's.

Of course, don't you know anything about ALCHEMY?!- Twin clones of Ivan the Great
kyun Since: Dec, 2010
#56: Nov 24th 2014 at 9:06:01 AM

... how is an entire film gonna treat her cursed face in an entire movie starring her?? People TURN TO STONE at the very sight of her!

maxwellelvis Mad Scientist Wannabe from undisclosed location Since: Oct, 2009 Relationship Status: In my bunk
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#57: Nov 24th 2014 at 9:06:50 AM

Play it up for tragedy, duh.

Of course, don't you know anything about ALCHEMY?!- Twin clones of Ivan the Great
minespatch Since: Sep, 2009
#58: Nov 24th 2014 at 7:49:28 PM

Yet this is Sony. <<...

The company's animations known for comedy a lot. Worst offender: the Lorax(Though close enough to Horton).

maxwellelvis Mad Scientist Wannabe from undisclosed location Since: Oct, 2009 Relationship Status: In my bunk
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#59: Nov 24th 2014 at 8:02:32 PM

Shit you're right. Okay, I take it all back, this movie's going to suck worse than a basket of leeches.

Of course, don't you know anything about ALCHEMY?!- Twin clones of Ivan the Great
minespatch Since: Sep, 2009
#60: Nov 24th 2014 at 8:46:07 PM

I'm not going to dread about this but I'm going to be cautiously optimistic.

scythemantis first insect politician from Oregon Since: Nov, 2009
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#61: Nov 26th 2014 at 5:09:57 AM

Putting her in a situation where she chooses this undermines/ruins the whole idea and frankly makes it borderline offensive.

You're talking about someone being mutilated. It's well and good to come to terms with being "different, " whether you were born that way or made that way, but that's a whole different idea from someone having something objectively horrific done to them and ending up being happy about it.

In a real-world context, choosing to be a horrific spider monster speaks of either a bizarre romantization of disability, or an outright indicator of mental illness. It's disturbing, and it's not much less disturbing when transposed into a fantasy cartoon.

Are you kidding me? How is simply becoming a different species comparable to either "mutilation" or a "disability?"

What about the millions of people who feel they'd love to be robots? Or dragons? Or furries? They're romanticizing disability and mutilation now?

Nice underhanded way of saying I must be "mentally ill" like that's an insult or a disgusting thing to be...and all just because I think being a huge spider would be fun. I can see absolutely no disadvantage to it if I retained my sapience, other than how other human beings would treat me, but that would be *their* problem.

edited 26th Nov '14 5:11:35 AM by scythemantis

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maxwellelvis Mad Scientist Wannabe from undisclosed location Since: Oct, 2009 Relationship Status: In my bunk
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#62: Nov 26th 2014 at 5:24:43 AM

But Arachne was turned into an itsy bitsy spider, not a giant one.

Of course, don't you know anything about ALCHEMY?!- Twin clones of Ivan the Great
Zendervai Visiting from the Hoag Galaxy from St. Catharines Since: Oct, 2009 Relationship Status: Wishing you were here
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#63: Nov 26th 2014 at 7:08:08 AM

[up][up] The thing there is that if it happened due to a random event, or because of choice, Arachne deciding to stay that way is one thing. But it's a punishment. Presumably Arachne really doesn't enjoy it. What if she was arachnophobic?

Not Three Laws compliant.
maxwellelvis Mad Scientist Wannabe from undisclosed location Since: Oct, 2009 Relationship Status: In my bunk
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#64: Nov 26th 2014 at 12:48:47 PM

She can't be. She's the first spider.

Of course, don't you know anything about ALCHEMY?!- Twin clones of Ivan the Great
Playedforkeeps Since: Oct, 2010
#65: Nov 24th 2015 at 6:11:20 PM

Sorry for bumping this. But a bit of sad news of an announcement about this. Craig Mccraken's twitter revealed that Lauren Faust is off of Medusa. Due to creative differences with the executives.

edited 24th Nov '15 6:12:22 PM by Playedforkeeps

TargetmasterJoe Since: May, 2013
#66: Nov 24th 2015 at 6:19:42 PM

I cast the card of the necromancer to share bad news.

Lauren Faust is no longer directing "Medusa". Or involved with Sony.

Why?

Guess. Just guess.

Want a hint? Have three:

  • Genndy had the same issue as her.
  • It's a classic example of executive meddling.
  • Sort of rhymes with "retroactive winces".

Take your time. It shouldn't be too hard to figure out. sad

EDIT: [up]Dude! You [nja]'d me! Not cool! sad

EDIT 2: Bah, I guess since the cat's out of the bag, should we just consider Sony the Konami of animation studios now?

edited 24th Nov '15 6:21:54 PM by TargetmasterJoe

Playedforkeeps Since: Oct, 2010
#67: Nov 24th 2015 at 6:25:49 PM

[up]Yep, Sony is the Konami of animation.

TargetmasterJoe Since: May, 2013
#68: Nov 24th 2015 at 6:49:23 PM

Just a while ago, I literally had the idea of how there could be a Tropaholics Anonymous on "creative differences survivors". So far, its members include:

They are...Creative Differences Anonymous.

Er...does thinking of stuff like this count as Gallows Humor?

edited 24th Nov '15 6:49:44 PM by TargetmasterJoe

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#69: Nov 24th 2015 at 8:01:03 PM

I came to this thread to discuss some things about Greek mythology (namely that the myth of Medusa being raped by Poseidon in Athena's temple only came around at a later time, and the initial myth was that Medusa was born as a monster), but now I see that Sony has fucked up once again...

STOP RUINING THINGS, SONY. AND I DON'T KNOW WHAT THIS KONAMI IS, BUT IT SOUNDS DISAPPOINTING.

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TargetmasterJoe Since: May, 2013
#70: Nov 24th 2015 at 8:27:27 PM

[up] STOP RUINING THINGS, SONY. AND I DON'T KNOW WHAT THIS KONAMI IS, BUT IT SOUNDS DISAPPOINTING.

To clarify, Konami is a video game company best known for titles such as Metal Gear, Contra, and Silent Hill, among others. Most of their games have been very well-received.

But earlier this year, Konami made the extremely bad descison of canceling what was going to be the next installment in the Silent Hill series, Silent Hills, which was to have been developed by Metal Gear creator Hideo Kojima and acclaimed horror filmmaker (as well as BFF to Kojima) Guillermo del Toro and to star Norman Reedus from the TV series, The Walking Dead. Why was it canceled? No one knows for sure. I'd say the heads of Konami had one too many snorts of cocaine, but that's just me. To make matters worse, there have been recent reports about how Konami as a place to work in has become an absolute hell. To a point where it feels a lot like something out of George Orwell's 1984.

To make matters even worser, Konami has also decided to screw Kojima even more by removing his now-defunct production team's name, the logo for their FOX Engine, and even his own name itself(!) from the cover of his most recent game Metal Gear Solid V: The Phantom Pain. Unsurprisingly, Konami has been tight-lipped about, well, everything. But it seems that they've decided to cut all ties with making video games for consoles and instead focus on mobile games and...pachinko machines (and possibly invest in more cocaine).

So when I said that Sony is the Konami of animation, it basically means that Sony is kinda behaving like Konami and screwing over very creative people, namely Lauren Faust and, on a similar case, Genndy Tartakovsky.

Hope that helped explain things. Also, I'm sorry if you were left horrified about what you've just read.

edited 24th Nov '15 8:36:10 PM by TargetmasterJoe

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#71: Nov 24th 2015 at 8:34:33 PM

[up] Oh yeah, I'd read about what they did to Silent Hills. A couple people on the Gravity Falls subreddit mentioned it when Del Toro (who I happen to have great admiration towards) tweeted praise for the show, and they told me about the Pachinko machine.

I didn't know it went as far as them screwing over the guy behind their biggest franchise, though.

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TargetmasterJoe Since: May, 2013
#72: Nov 24th 2015 at 9:10:49 PM

Wait, what?!

when Del Toro (who I happen to have great admiration towards) tweeted praise for the show

BLARGH! I must find proof of this!

(5-6 minutes of nonstop scrolling through GDT's Twitter page later...)

Oh, man. My finger's killing me. I never realized how often he tweets.

(A few more finger-killing scrolls later...)

Aw, screw it!

(Googles "guillermo del toro gravity falls")

A-HA! I found it! grin

...Yup. That's real praise.

And Alex Hirsch is fully aware of it. Nice. [tup]

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#73: Nov 24th 2015 at 9:13:57 PM

Del Toro is awesome, dude. He apparently likes Over the Garden Wall and Steven Universe as well. I hope he gets to make Pacific Rim 2 one of these days.

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Madmous Since: Dec, 2009
#74: Nov 25th 2015 at 12:40:19 AM

"pick up with the young Medusa, who has angered the wrong goddess"

I am not sure, but that sounds like they kept the whole rape part away. It actually sounds like they removed the entire part Poseidon plays, he is afterall the reason Athena became angry. I wonder if this version even is a priestess of Athena.

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#75: Nov 25th 2015 at 3:37:17 AM

If someone could toss Lauren a Break so she could catch one, that'd be great.

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