Poor Image: My New Gift Is Lame

Well, they seem rather closely related tropes, to the extent that they both use It's the Great Pumpkin, Charlie Brown for the page quote.

And the image of the ornament has the advantage that you actually see the other kids holding candy while Charlie Brown regards his rock, so you get the contrast with the other kid's gifts, thus well fitting the "My Gift is Lame" trope. (If memory serves, that's not a contrast you can get from a single still from the special itself.)

I Got a Rock is a Halloween candy specific sub-trope.

Heck, I Got a Rock even has "Compare My New Gift Is Lame." in its description.

Just because it's an example of one trope doesn't necessarily mean it can't also be an example of another.

I know, but if it's belongs to a specific sup-trope, it should be there. Especially considering it's the Trope Namer for it.

The Trope Namer's already there as a screencap from the actual scene.

Then again, if one thinks about it, that would technically make the ornament a duplicate image should one interpret it that way.

Well, I suppose it depends on how strictly one wants to consider duplicate images. It isn't the exact same scene, and it obviously isn't the same medium (a still frame of 2D animation vs. a photograph of a 3D sculpture), so I wouldn't personally see them as the same, at all. But if others disagree, then so be it. (Especially if disagreement is paired with other image suggestions. )

No. "Duplicate image" means literally the same image, though perhaps cropped (etc) differently. Could make a case that it's similar to a duplicate image, but not that it technically is one. I disagree, though; also there is precedent for page images depicting the same scene in different media, but I can't find the example.

edited 30th Nov '13 4:50:16 PM by rodneyAnonymous

Isn't image duplicates basically something to avoid just so we don't have the same thing in several places? So if there are images that looks the same or very similar on two pages, it's probably a good idea to change one of them, but not strictly necessary.

Agree with that also, and remembered the example: Actually, That's My Assistant and Berserk Button. Same scene (although the first is 1-2 and the second is 2-3), totally not the same image (different media, for one thing). Here is a thread about it: [1]

Spirit of the law >> letter of the law.

edited 1st Dec '13 6:38:18 PM by rodneyAnonymous

About the Charlie Brown question. Images aside, we may infer that both tropes are at least flexible, perhaps sisters even... if under the same circumstances.

That being said, would it not illustrate the tropes better if they had completely unrelated images, for the readers' sake?... As to avoid them confusing the two to be the same.

edited 1st Dec '13 6:37:28 PM by Paktra

Possibly, but really hard to say when the alternative is hypothetical. Suggestions: [1]◊ [2]◊ [3]◊

The first is good, but the second made me laugh so it gets my vote.

edited 2nd Dec '13 9:53:29 PM by Willbyr

I like 36.1 best, it shows both the lame gift and the desired alternative.

The others don't so I just saw "a lame gift" not, "a lame gift out of a group of good ones".

I'm simply not big on stock images as tropes so 36.1 is better than nothing.

edited 3rd Dec '13 2:21:44 AM by treelo

36.1 is good enough for me.

36.1 gets my for now.

edited 3rd Dec '13 8:46:29 PM by Paktra

36.1 is also OK for me.

At 350:

Looks good. Quality retention upon downsizing is superb among images like these.

Bump; anyone else for/against ?

I like it. It's cute.

Works for me.

I like it. I particularly like the implication that the cape and mask were two of his other gifts.

Sure, use it.

Clock is set. I'm in the process of uploading 36.1 to the page and will finish that shortly. Caption or no? I was thinking "I find my lack of Death Star disturbing." or something like that.