Misused: Ms Fanservice

But if you find a character hot, more often than not it's because the people creating the work conceptualized him/her to be hot and played up her (his) sex-appeal. Just by giving them a appealing design and a sexy costume.

I would say that Doctor who is a fairly tame show, but almost every girl compagnon except for Donna has been a Ms fanservice in this universe (young, beautiful actresses in short skirt or tight jeans playing a feisty side-kick who's very often flirting with the Doctor: that's as much titillation as you are allowed but it's there)

And then you have anims, comics and video games that justify the creation of "World of Fanservice"

World Of Fanservice sounds like a great missing supertrope to Jiggle Show, Panty Fighter, and World of Buxom.

edited 12th Dec '13 8:13:03 AM by MarqFJA

Huh, good point.

You don't need to slap Ms. Fanservice or Mr. Fanservice for a character if they happen to have a fanservice trope or two (like Weiss' legs in RWBY).

World Of Fanservice should be made, if you ask me.

edited 14th Dec '13 7:59:58 PM by Serocco

I don't think so, a World Of Fanservice article just seems like an excuse for more misuse of that sort of trope.

I meant as a Super-Trope.

I like the super trope idea.

I don't think World Of Fanservice would be a supertrope to this trope. And it would need some fairly clear-cut definition or else it's going to be used for "world with a lot of skin shown".

Ahem. I think it's obvious that he didn't mean "supertrope to Ms. Fanservice".

Let's wrap this discussion up.

Firstly, should we even have this World Of Fanservice as a trope?

I'm thinking maybe as the name of a super trope index thingy to the other fanservice tropes

I dunno, but I'd rather have that be decided in the YKTTW.

edited 24th Dec '13 1:20:26 AM by captainpat

World Of Fanservice, off the top of my head, would need to be not only where skimpy clothes are the norm and not the exception, but also where said clothes also point out their skimpiness to the audience. For instance, a work set in a tropical climate where women go topless but wear longish skirts wouldn't qualify as much as a work in the same situation but where said skirts are little more than loincloths.

A book or a National Geographic documentary in a setting where everyone goes topless may not be fanservice, but an anime or TV show (less likely given higher levels of censorship associated with live action) where not only every woman is topless but looks like a supermodel is almost certainly doing it for the interests of fanservice rather than realism.

Yeah, what Catbert said. Willbyr does make a good point that the would-be trope needs to have a clear-cut definition to counteract its potential for quick Trope Decay.

That's another good point to consider.

Aye, good point.

So somebody should make a YKTTW for that. I'm not really seeing how that's gonna help the problems with Ms. Fanservice. I'm currently doing a wick check and the main problem seems to be Zero-Context entries.

Should we just remove Mr. Fanservice and Ms. Fanservice, then? I'm not seeing any real fixes to the problems here.

It would help in cases like Highschool of the Dead, where Ms. Fanservice keeps getting applied to practically every female character that isn't a prepubescent.

edited 24th Dec '13 1:30:21 PM by MarqFJA

Hmm...would zero context example clean up will at least partially solve the problem?

I think it would.

Zero Context Examples about Ms. Fanservice in what way? Like, what's the problem there?

edited 25th Dec '13 9:01:50 PM by Serocco

As in, they are Zero Context Examples.

• Ms. Fanservice: Yang, and how!

Like that. That's a ZCE.