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Punk Punk - No love for the 60s-70s?:

So I realized something while looking over the list of Punk Punk sub genres. There's a pretty clear line of progression from the dawn of man to modern day that is for the most part unbroken:

Stonepunk (Stone Age)

Sandalpunk (Bronze Age through Iron Age)

There's really nothing that covers medieval times, but I'm not concerned about that right now. Dungeonpunk mostly takes care of that.

Clockpunk (Rennaisance through the advent of steam power)

Steampunk (The beginning of steam power right up to World War I)

Dieselpunk (Beginning of World War I through the end of World War II)

Atompunk (The end of World War II through the early 60s)

And here's where my problem lies. From here, it jumps straight to the early 80s through 90s with Cyberpunk. My question is... what about the 60s and the 70s? Why is there no retrofuturistic sub genre for that era? Not even one like Stonepunk that hasn't really been used, but exists in theory? Sure, I've seen people mumble about "Weedpunk" here and there, but there's not much information about it, and I don't really think it works, because while marijuana was a major component of the 60s and 70s, it didn't drive the technology the way the rest of the eras were run by the technology in their name. After all, we call it "Dieselpunk, " not "Bootleg Alchoholpunk."

I've become obsessed with this potential but seemingly nonexistent genre. I want to know about it, I NEED to know about it, even if it doesn't actually exist. And so, I turn to you, fellow tropers. If there was a 1960s-1970s subgenre of Punk Punk... what do you think it would be like? What would the style look like, what sort of technology would they have? What fiction from the 1970s would it be based on? I'm not familiar enough with the era or the Punk metagenre in order to come up with this on my own, but maybe with you guys help, well, who knows? Maybe we can come up with something completely new.

Are you sure atom-punk doesn't apply to that era?
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I'd imagine it would look like Clockwork Orange or Logan's Run. Or one of those other "it's suppose to be the future but it's actually the 70's" sci-fi stories.
 4 Ars Thaumaturgis, Fri, 3rd May '13 7:59:43 PM Relationship Status: I've been dreaming of True Love's Kiss
Is there a technology that could be said to be emblematic or even simply widespread in that era, at least that isn't present in some form today?

I suspect that the only reason that the 80s and 90s are represented at all is that they were either the present or future when cyberpunk was born, and thus were used as settings for the stories that founded the genre.

That said, perhaps Zeerust or "Rocketpunk" might work: rockets are used to propel everything, and one might even use miniaturised rockets connected by arms to wheels to make catherine-wheel motors.

How about Environpunk, with an emphasis on hippie-style mysticism, attunement to the natural forces of the Earth, and unrealistically effective renewable forms of power like wind and solar?
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Killing those I've left behind

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 6 nrjxll, Fri, 3rd May '13 8:45:03 PM Relationship Status: Not war
If there's a single big change between the 50s and the 60s-70s that can be pointed to, it's social, not technological.

 7 Ars Thaumaturgis, Sat, 4th May '13 8:36:13 AM Relationship Status: I've been dreaming of True Love's Kiss
[up] Lovepunk, then? Essentially a setting in which free love is common, communes are the standard form of settlement, drugs are commonly used (and may well provide effective sources of information via visions and the like) all forms of violence are held in contempt and one of the core philosophies is "share and share alike"?

It occurs to me that it might combine well with the aforementioned rocketpunk and likely the enviropunk mentioned above: the society described in the first paragraph of this post uses rocketpunk technology powered by enviropunk energy sources. Overall it might take the name "Flowerpunk"; the name doesn't really cover the "rocket" aspect, but does, I think, include the "love" and "environmental" elements.

edited 4th May '13 8:40:35 AM by ArsThaumaturgis

 8 Maxwell Daring, Mon, 6th May '13 5:28:53 PM from City 14 Relationship Status: Singularity
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I for one imagined a similar idea, only it was more oriented around a war with the Soviet Union, so the military gear looks like it was pulled from Vietnam, but you had things like humanoid drones, battlefield computers, and Future Copter versions of Hueys. Of course, there is a prominent counterculture movement. It just got stalled by nuclear war. Most people on the East Coast were bashing each other's brains out for a can of beans when the Beatles should have become a cultural thing.

They also have cybernetics, but it really sucks. One of the major characters was Johnny Got His Gunned during the war and was rebuilt as a supersoldier. The results were less than super. Sure, he could lift heavy objects and run fast, but any fod needed to be sterilized, put in a blender, and sucked through a feeding tube in his throat. Obviously, Used Future abound.
 9 Gemsparky, Sat, 9th Nov '13 1:14:48 PM from North America
That kind of punk is called "Transistorpunk."
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