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Misused (new crowner 8/9/13): Fail O Suckyname get usage counts

 51 Larkmarn, Mon, 10th Jun '13 6:48:49 AM Relationship Status: Hello, I love you
Would we need a separate topic for dealing with Awesome McCoolname?

And I suppose we need a crowner to determinate new names for Fail O'Suckyname. Mocked Moniker, Atrocious Alias, Suckyname Man all have had support in the topic. Any others?

Don't we also need a page-action crowner to determine whether we should merge Unfortunate Name and Fail O'Suckyname? All in this discussion agreed, but there might be a silent minority.

If the general agreement is enough, then Alt name crowner should be made.

 53 Septimus Heap, Mon, 10th Jun '13 7:20:02 AM from Zurich, Switzerland Relationship Status: Mu
Quasar
This is a big change. So I would put a Page Action crowner.

 54 Larkmarn, Mon, 10th Jun '13 7:31:07 AM Relationship Status: Hello, I love you
 55 Septimus Heap, Mon, 10th Jun '13 7:32:32 AM from Zurich, Switzerland Relationship Status: Mu
Quasar
Huh. That crowner option sounds very unlike what we were discussing here. Also, this may be better for a Page Action crowner.

 56 Larkmarn, Mon, 10th Jun '13 7:36:33 AM Relationship Status: Hello, I love you
... you know, I'm just going to... let someone else do that, because clearly I am failing at this.

I've tweaked the lead and Laconic to reflect the consensus here so far. Anyone up for building a proper page action crowner?

 58 Willbyr, Wed, 10th Jul '13 9:31:07 AM from North Little Rock, AR Relationship Status: Pining for the fjords
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If anything's going to happen it needs to happen soon.
 59 Larkmarn, Wed, 10th Jul '13 10:05:04 AM Relationship Status: Hello, I love you
What needs to go onto the crowner?

 60 Another Duck, Wed, 10th Jul '13 10:25:19 AM from Stockholm Relationship Status: Chocolate!
No, the other one.
Looking back, I don't think a merge was what was dicussed. For one, Unfortunate Names doesn't require the character to have chosen it herself (or for it to be a character at all), unless that was also supposed to be added in the definition.

There's also the In-Universe only bit, though I think all of these tropes should be cleared from Audience Reactions.

edited 10th Jul '13 10:25:30 AM by AnotherDuck

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I made a page action crowner with more possibilities.

http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/crowner.php/PageAction/FailOSuckyname

Could the crowner be hooked?

And could we also add Awesome McCoolname? We touched the topic in the discussion too. Or would be better to open its own TRS once there is an empty slot?

edited 24th Jul '13 11:36:33 PM by XFllo

 63 Larkmarn, Thu, 25th Jul '13 5:34:26 AM Relationship Status: Hello, I love you
That'll need its own topic, I think. Though I do feel whatever it is, it should be the opposite of Fail O'Suckyname.

Bumping for votes.

  • (yeas:12 nays:0) - Rename to make it clear that it's a name chosen by the character. New name will be decided by another crowner. (Note: Fail O'Suckyname is a catchy trope name and could be re-cycled; Unfortunate Name could be using it.)
  • (yeas:8 nays:1) - Improve description. It's written as Example As Thesis and focuses on superheroes, while the trope's much broader in fiction.
  • (yeas:6 nays:3) - Unfortunate Name should be for names viewed unfortunate or embarrassing in-universe.
Still new. Still learning. Asking questions and making mistakes.
 66 Willbyr, Mon, 19th Aug '13 3:59:42 AM from North Little Rock, AR Relationship Status: Pining for the fjords
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Calling this one for the first two options.
 67 Another Duck, Mon, 19th Aug '13 6:42:03 AM from Stockholm Relationship Status: Chocolate!
No, the other one.
Well, here's a start on a new description. I kept the last three paragraphs, rephrased, but otherwise I think it should be completely rewritten.


Code names or nicknames chosen by the characters themselves aren't always as awesome or cool as they originally thought. Sometimes the names are ridiculed by other characters. That's when you run into this trope: Names mocked by other characters.

Many are the reasons for a character to have such a malodorous moniker: Maybe it was a character originally from The Golden Age of Comic Books, when certain slang terms had different meanings. Maybe it's a fairly standard Something Person naming convention and the powers don't exactly make for an intimidating name. Whatever the name is, it just doesn't inspire the respect wanted.

A specific type of Unfortunate Name. See also The Adjectival Superhero, Have a Gay Old Time, Giver of Lame Names.

Please note that this trope is only about embarrassing names that the character specifically chooses. If it's a name the person was born with, see Unfortunate Names.

edited 19th Aug '13 6:44:00 AM by AnotherDuck

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 68 Larkmarn, Mon, 19th Aug '13 7:02:10 AM Relationship Status: Hello, I love you
 69 Willbyr, Mon, 19th Aug '13 9:40:36 AM from North Little Rock, AR Relationship Status: Pining for the fjords
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[up] Swapped in and the title's updated.
 70 Larkmarn, Mon, 19th Aug '13 10:06:19 AM Relationship Status: Hello, I love you
My comments on the three possibilities so far:

Mocked Moniker: I like the "mocked" part the most, but when I think "moniker" I rarely think a name that he choose. Most of the time it's used it's a nickname chosen by someone else. But it still has my vote.

Suckyname Man: I like the zippiness, and it makes it clear it's about a chosen name, but doesn't specify in-universe derision and it makes it sound too specific.

Atrocious Alias: Alias works, but it's ambiguous as to whether it's atrocious because it's an Unfortunate Name or something incredibly noticeable. Also, like Suckyname Man, doesn't specify anything in-universe so we'll get people adding names they don't like.

 71 Willbyr, Mon, 19th Aug '13 10:43:55 AM from North Little Rock, AR Relationship Status: Pining for the fjords
Anime-ted
What's the French word for "shame" or "embarrassment"?
 72 Larkmarn, Tue, 10th Sep '13 6:20:06 AM Relationship Status: Hello, I love you
Bump for votes.

 73 Willbyr, Tue, 10th Sep '13 11:48:27 AM from North Little Rock, AR Relationship Status: Pining for the fjords
Anime-ted
I completely forgot about this...since we have nom de plume, I was thinking the French equivalent for "embarassing name", nom d'embarrassant...too esoteric?
 74 Larkmarn, Tue, 10th Sep '13 11:52:18 AM Relationship Status: Hello, I love you
"Nom d'shame" maybe?

... yeah, I think a bit too unclear.

 75 totlmstr, Tue, 10th Sep '13 7:11:43 PM from California Relationship Status: [TOP SECRET]
Taking discussion with a grain of salt, but here's my interpretation of the new titles:

First choice is straightforward. Second choice can be manipulated to include YMMV examples (e.g., "I hate this nickname, so I'll put it on a trope page!"). Third is....well, it's not that bad but it is fine. If the third can be adjusted to include In-Universe examples only, it would work as its own trope.

Hmm...merge with Embarrassing Nickname for examples that apply?

edited 10th Sep '13 7:19:51 PM by totlmstr

Alternative Titles: Fail O Suckynamerunoff
2nd Jan '14 7:43:31 AM
Vote up names you like, vote down names you don't. Whether or not the title will actually be changed is determined with a different kind of crowner (the Single Proposition crowner). This one just collects and ranks alternative titles.
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