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#44426: Jan 21st 2017 at 10:31:49 AM

I saw someone say that the Grimm might be based on a nuckelavee, a creature with a human torso attached to a back of a horse.

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#44427: Jan 21st 2017 at 10:38:30 AM

Mercury is the best character among those who haven't been developed as characters.
Mercury kind of bores me. He's a cocky amoral badass who's smug enough about it to be annoying but not hammy enough about it to be entertaining. I find Emerald to be a much more interesting character — she actually has opinions on what's going on around her beyond the "eh, whatever" that Mercury displays, and she also has something of a personal connection with Cinder (as opposed to Mercury, who is just hired muscle and is perfectly fine with that). I just hope they actually develop that. But it's RWBY, so I'm not holding my breath on that count.

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#44428: Jan 21st 2017 at 10:39:52 AM

[up][up][up][up] Centaur isn't a good fit, it would have two heads. It's most likely a Nuckelavee, a demon with a human torso attached to a horse's body with arms long enough to drag on the ground. It also has no skin and poisonous breath. [nja]

edited 21st Jan '17 10:39:59 AM by doineedaname

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#44429: Jan 21st 2017 at 10:40:30 AM

[up][up] I mean, they'll probably get around to that eventually a few dozen volumes down the line tongue.

edited 21st Jan '17 10:40:43 AM by CaptainCapsase

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#44430: Jan 21st 2017 at 11:20:53 AM

Ok, just one thing: When ren is in the market, one of the seeler wasnt shikamaru? it really looks like him.

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#44431: Jan 21st 2017 at 12:19:58 PM

So I was doing some thinking about the combat roles of Team RWBY for other stuff and it made me realize something. When you classify Yang's role on the team, you think she'd be the Tank, right? She's the slowest of the bunch, she hits really hard, and she doesn't seem to care much about taking damage. However, she's really not. As far as I know, nothing indicates that her defenses are any better than that of anyone else in the show. Her roles is really more than of a Nuker. If anyone's a Tank, it's Blake since her Shadow Clone Semblance makes her a pretty solid Blink Tank.

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#44432: Jan 21st 2017 at 12:31:22 PM

Yang takes hits the best out of the four.

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#44433: Jan 21st 2017 at 12:37:59 PM

I thought of the Grimm being like the Pale Rider. He's probably a Boss level Grimm on par with the Grimm Dragon.

edited 21st Jan '17 12:50:23 PM by Demongodofchaos2

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#44434: Jan 21st 2017 at 12:56:44 PM

Incidentally, this is probably the first time RWBY's nightmare fuel page will see legitimate use, because the centaur Grimm looked like it was straight out of Bloodborne, and the ruins of Kuroyuri was actually a bit eerie. May the monsters continue to grow ever more disfigured until our heroes are up against many-tentacled horrors from beyond space and before time which have reached out to the world through their dreams despite being dead.

edited 21st Jan '17 12:58:18 PM by CaptainCapsase

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#44435: Jan 21st 2017 at 1:23:52 PM

So I was doing some thinking about the combat roles of Team RWBY
RWBY (the series, not just the team) doesn't really follow video game party mechanics very closely. While Yang is arguably the slowest and certainly the hardest hitter, you wouldn't really call her the tank because RWBY-style combat doesn't use tanks. Every fighter in RWBY is capable of operating independently, without the support of their team. Even if you wanted to push them into that sort of schema for gameplay purposes in a RWBY RPG or something, it doesn't really fit, because RWBY has a setting has no healers, which means the tank/healer/DPS thing breaks down regardless.

If you're trying to classify RWBY combatants, it makes more sense to use the Competitive Balance tropes than anything else.

For example, Blake is a classic Fragile Speedster. Her style revolves almost entirely around avoiding hits rather than taking them, and overwhelming opponents with rapid strikes. She doesn't have much in the way of either durability or raw power, but she makes up for it with speed.

Ruby is an odd mix of Fragile Speedster and Mighty Glacier — she moves quickly but attacks slowly, so her style is to basically run past targets while slashing them to bits with her scythe (and on the long-range end of things, she plants herself in one spot and unloads with her sniper rifle). Basically, she uses speed for defense but has slow, powerful attacks.

Weiss is a Glass Cannon and a Close-Range Combatant — she's a duelist, dodging and parrying blows for defense, and making quick, precise strikes for offense. Things tend to go badly for her when she actually takes hits, but she's capable of taking an opponent apart if she gets a shot at them.

Yang is pure Mighty Glacier. She's relatively slow (by RWBY standards), but hits hard and can take hits that would knock other fighters out. If she were an RPG character, I'd say her defense stat is average, but she has a ton of HP. Her defensive strategy is basically "grin and bear it, then hit back".

For other characters: Jaune is a Stone Wall, whose sword and shield make him one of the best defensive fighters we've seen, but his speed and power are nohting special. Ren is a Fragile Speedster Glass Cannon who relies on lightning combos to keep an enemy off balance and gradually wear them down. Nora is an offense-oriented Mighty Glacier who uses slow but powerful strikes. Pyrrha is a Lightning Bruiser who's fast, tough, hits hard, and has an extremely useful semblance (that acts as an entirely separate ability, rather than just boosting her normal tactics) to boot.

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#44436: Jan 21st 2017 at 1:53:25 PM

[up]Actually, Yang's only a Mighty Glacier in comparison to her team. Otherwise, she's the purest definition of a Lightning Bruiser: Fast, Strong and Durable, with one drawback: she's a Close-Range Combatant

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#44437: Jan 21st 2017 at 2:12:02 PM

I was making comparison to the rest of the RWBY-verse in general. Yang might be fast compared to real life, but she's slow compared to many other RWBY characters.

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#44438: Jan 21st 2017 at 2:18:46 PM

team RWBY is how i play squad based RPG's: tanks are dumb, use moar DPS and some crowd control. Ruby hits hard, Yang hits harder, Blake backstabs and draws aggro on shadow clones, and Weiss freezes everyone.

also dat episode. a) what exactly do y'all think Ren's semblance is? b) this is the first time in a long time i've been legitimately afraid of characters kicking it in a show.

edited 21st Jan '17 2:19:49 PM by ch00beh

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#44439: Jan 21st 2017 at 2:22:53 PM

[up] I don't think Ren or Nora are in danger. Qrow is the big question, though given how long this has dragged out, I'm thinking he'll pull through.

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#44440: Jan 21st 2017 at 2:48:36 PM

Normally I wouldn't either, but they established last season that they’re satisfying the trope of if you get character development, you’re on the chopping block.

Nora, Ren, and Qrow have all gotten it now.

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#44441: Jan 21st 2017 at 2:55:42 PM

Mercury kind of bores me. He's a cocky amoral badass who's smug enough about it to be annoying but not hammy enough about it to be entertaining. I find Emerald to be a much more interesting character.

Hiss.

He's a cocky amoral badass with a backstory that indicates some level of patricide/abuse, and we acan never have enough mysterious, cocky badasses in anime. They're both cocky, but Mercury is the one who gets to demonstrate that cockiness. He's effortlessly cool from the moment he's introduced.

And if I'm to throw shade, Emerald's design bores me - I mean, hot, black, revolver-wielding girl with teal-colored hair hell yes but look at their outfits. Mercury's outfit is sleek and unimposing, he looks like he'd be a student somewhere, His weapons integrate with his outfit. Emerald's clashes with her hair color and is very eye-catching. It also includes heels. Unless those heels are part of some kind of weapon system I do not want to see them. Her weapons are just chainwhip kusarigimas.

Emerald's elation at seeing Cinder was interesting - but that's just not as fun as watching Mercury kick the crap out of people. So far we've gotten two fights with Emerald that were mostly to demonstrate her abilities one-by-one rather than to say anything about her. If this show is founded on amazing fight sequences then Mercury serves as one of its pillars. Emerald, not as much.

Granted, I'd say neither character would be as interesting apart as they are together.

But I'm on this train for awesome fights and occasional plot intrigue - thus, Mercury's just more appealing, douchelord of vague backstories he may be.

edited 21st Jan '17 5:40:05 PM by Soble

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#44442: Jan 21st 2017 at 3:07:20 PM

[up] Based on Emerald's surname, I'm not sure her skin color is intended to reflect her being black as much as southern Mediterranean or Arabic, at least in terms of real world ethnicities, and as far as the villains go, Salem is the most intriguing simply because of the sheer number of unanswered questions get raised ever time she appears on screen, ranging from "what exactly is she" to "how do she and Ozpin know each other."

edited 21st Jan '17 3:11:03 PM by CaptainCapsase

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#44443: Jan 21st 2017 at 3:15:15 PM

He's a cocky amoral badass with a backstory that indicates some level of patricide/abuse, and we acan never have enough mysterious, cocky badasses in anime.
I would say the exact same thing, except I'd replace your pothole with Sarcasm Mode. Mercury has been done, and been done better, but a thousand other works. He's got no particular connection to the plot except as Cinder's muscle, and all I really want out of him is to see him get punched in the face by a protagonist (preferably Yang), which doesn't seem to be in the cards for any time in the foreseeable future, so there's basically nothing I find appealing about the character.

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#44444: Jan 21st 2017 at 3:21:29 PM

[up] IIRC Word of God says that there's more to his character than what we've seen, which adds him to the constantly growing queue of characters waiting for development.

@ch00b: at the same time, despite all the jokes in the aftermath of volume 3, this isn't Game Of Thrones, not yet at least, though characters dying without a satisfactory conclusion to their arc is certainly on the table.

edited 21st Jan '17 3:31:07 PM by CaptainCapsase

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#44445: Jan 21st 2017 at 3:38:04 PM

What I'd really like to see with Mercury is him killing Emerald (or any villain who is made out to be sympathetic but still a minion of Salem) and switching sides in the middle of a fight they might lose but definitely will now because of him purely out of self preservation and from lack of any loyalty to Cinder and completely one hundred percent getting away with it because despite being wholly unrepentant he killed someone very useful to the villains.

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#44446: Jan 21st 2017 at 3:47:07 PM

Mercury has been done, and been done better, but a thousand other works ...

Well, I agree to disagree.

Based on Emerald's surname, I'm not sure her skin color is intended to reflect her being black as much as southern Mediterranean or Arabic, at least in terms of real world ethnicities

Oh. Didn't know.

and as far as the villains go, Salem is the most intriguing simply because of the sheer number of unanswered questions get raised ever time she appears on screen

Every time she appears on screen I think of Kaguya Otsutsuki from Naruto fused with Aku.

I somehow expect her fighting style to either be an amalgam of the main characters - glyphs, excellent H 2 H, some overpowered weapon, and Noob Saibot - or she's going to be a summoner.

edited 21st Jan '17 5:02:37 PM by Soble

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#44447: Jan 21st 2017 at 4:17:07 PM

[up] She doesn't have GREAT FLAMING EYEBROWS though. But I do expect her fighting style to involve a lot of magic.

edited 21st Jan '17 4:17:33 PM by CaptainCapsase

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#44448: Jan 21st 2017 at 4:58:37 PM

If Salem is Aku and Ozpin the FOOLISH SAMURAI, them who is the scott? Qrow?

Anyway about Mercury, I feel emerald is more deep but merc have more charm, in part because he is the only villian so far who dosent really give a shit about anything: he dosent care about is sad backstory, who salem is, or what he is doing, everything about him is "well, to be honest, I kinda dont give a shit" which is hilarious compare to others, also he is evil version of yang: while Yang enjoy battle, he enjoy kicking others down.

In short, he is "Im a fucking scumbag...and I fucking loved it"

Also, I disagree in something: sure every member of the team can funtion on their on but is clear they need each other and they are moment when they fight as team, is just a shame RT dosent show this more often.

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#44449: Jan 21st 2017 at 5:15:52 PM

Mercury's outfit looks like it belongs on a mook.

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#44450: Jan 21st 2017 at 5:36:33 PM

All the better to not be noticed in a crowd.

Appearancewise, Emerald's been blessed by Aphrodite, and Cinder's eyes literally radiate evil.

edited 21st Jan '17 5:41:08 PM by Soble

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