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Prematurely launched pages and pages that weren't fully fleshed out at the point of launching, are a big problem. Since these usually share several problems at once, this thread is aimed at re-running them through the TLP for fixing - the usual fix - or cutting them if they are too bad.

Problems this thread deals with include bad names, not enough/bad examples, unclear description, etc.

For the interested, here's a list of recently created pages. Launches

Note: Please do not request a mod to unlaunch drafts that don't have any issues besides lacking a launch notice/24hr launch notice. While 24hr launch notices are mandatory, there are a few exceptions to the rule. If you see a draft's sponsor launch a TLP without an announcement, it's best to remind them of our TLP Guidelines first. If they continue to repeatedly launch drafts without a launch notice, you can report them on Ask The Tropers or the TLP Community Issues thread.

Edited by MacronNotes on Jun 24th 2023 at 12:24:55 PM

Morgenthaler Since: Feb, 2016
#4426: Oct 9th 2016 at 5:59:54 AM

Jason King has only 1 example with sufficient context.

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Morgenthaler Since: Feb, 2016
#4427: Oct 12th 2016 at 4:29:57 AM

Polk Out is almost nothing but zces.

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Morgenthaler Since: Feb, 2016
#4428: Oct 12th 2016 at 5:20:42 AM

I've cutlisted most of the work page stubs listed on pages 172-177 that have not been fixed at this point.

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Larkmarn Since: Nov, 2010 Relationship Status: Hello, I love you
#4429: Oct 12th 2016 at 6:33:16 AM

Thank you, Morg.

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Morgenthaler Since: Feb, 2016
#4430: Oct 12th 2016 at 6:50:40 AM

The Final Frontier has no examples for some reason.

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Larkmarn Since: Nov, 2010 Relationship Status: Hello, I love you
#4431: Oct 12th 2016 at 7:02:05 AM

I don't know what that page is supposed to be, though.

Is it just "the setting of space"? Because that's pretty much covered by Tropes in Space. Is it "space is about exploration"? That's Wagon Train to the Stars.

Or is it just a vague page made to fit a stock Star Trek phrase?

... probably.

edited 12th Oct '16 7:02:21 AM by Larkmarn

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nrjxll Since: Nov, 2010 Relationship Status: Not war
#4432: Oct 12th 2016 at 11:25:43 AM

Though The Final Frontier would actually make a much better name for a "space is about exploration" trope than Wagon Train to the Stars, which doesn't really mean that in context.

Larkmarn Since: Nov, 2010 Relationship Status: Hello, I love you
#4433: Oct 12th 2016 at 11:50:18 AM

Agreed. Turn it into a redirect?

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Arutema Since: Aug, 2009 Relationship Status: Hoping Senpai notices me
#4434: Oct 12th 2016 at 10:58:16 PM

Boom Up And Over launched with minimal description and no examples.

Larkmarn Since: Nov, 2010 Relationship Status: Hello, I love you
#4435: Oct 13th 2016 at 6:31:53 AM

Easy cut.

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Berrenta How sweet it is from Texas Since: Apr, 2015 Relationship Status: Can't buy me love
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#4436: Oct 13th 2016 at 9:23:07 AM

Yeah, cutlist that. Seems to have been created years ago, judging by the lack of a history.

Update: While dewicking, I found Arms Up, another camera-related stub.

...same for Pedestal. There may be other Camera Tricks pages like this. Pedestal is already covered in the sandbox page for Camera Movements, so that could go...

edited 13th Oct '16 2:41:08 PM by Berrenta

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Larkmarn Since: Nov, 2010 Relationship Status: Hello, I love you
#4437: Oct 14th 2016 at 6:04:14 AM

Characters.James Bond Blofeld is a stub, but while it's currently poorly done, it's not a bad idea. Blofeld is in a bunch of movies and he has an individual entry on each one, which seems... odd.

EDIT: NVM, he's gradually adding the tropes. Seems like an improvement. I'm standing down.

edited 14th Oct '16 6:19:43 AM by Larkmarn

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#4438: Oct 14th 2016 at 7:21:32 AM

Male Band, Female Singer got launched with 11(!) hats.

... it seems like Not A Trope as-written, possibly trivia, and completely pointless. The examples make that clear... they're mostly just "X of Band Y."

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SeptimusHeap from Switzerland (Edited uphill both ways) Relationship Status: Mu
#4439: Oct 14th 2016 at 9:26:02 AM

Camera Tricks don't have examples because they are old and because people don't notice them. Not a reason for cutting at all, although looking for examples is certainly advised.

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Morgenthaler Since: Feb, 2016
#4440: Oct 16th 2016 at 1:59:49 AM

Powerhouse barely meets the Rule of Three.

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lakingsif Since: Dec, 2012 Relationship Status: Wanna dance with somebody
#4441: Oct 16th 2016 at 11:33:42 AM

Do you think we can get tlp changed back to how YKKTW worked, or at least maybe proper moderation of it so problems are fixed before they get launched?

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Morgenthaler Since: Feb, 2016
#4442: Oct 18th 2016 at 6:35:40 AM

^ Is that addressed to Septimus? You might get more mod attention by posting a ATT query.

Gideon Ploy is a trope that is at least as old in 2012, but is not indexed or linked anywhere and has gotten a measly 4 examples. The trope does look like a legitimate one though, so I'll say send it back to YKTTW (I'd be happy to sponsor it if no one else volunteers) so it can collect some examples.

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SeptimusHeap from Switzerland (Edited uphill both ways) Relationship Status: Mu
#4443: Oct 18th 2016 at 7:50:19 AM

Even for ATT that's an incredibly vague suggestion, though.

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FuzzyBoots from Outlying borough of Pittsburgh (there's a lot of Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: And they all lived happily ever after <3
#4444: Oct 18th 2016 at 7:54:58 AM

I went ahead and stuck Gideon Ploy onto a few indexes that seemed to fit. It does lack wicks that go into it, but right now, I'm blanking on what to add.

Zyffyr from Portland, Oregon Since: Apr, 2010 Relationship Status: Complex: I'm real, they are imaginary
#4445: Oct 18th 2016 at 4:18:21 PM

Sadly, I know a few to the extent of 'how did they enact the ploy and why', but I can't remember the names of the works.

MegaMarioMan "Yo Smithy!" from Jowai Resort, Pokitaru Since: Jan, 2013 Relationship Status: Complex: I'm real, they are imaginary
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#4446: Oct 19th 2016 at 7:39:52 AM

Fighteer said that even though it's not a new page, I should bring this here, so... bringing it.

Just Here For The Funny was started on 1/18/2011 and has only been edited once, on the same day. There are no examples (which may be because it seems like a YMMV page), and the amount of wicks can be counted on one hand (there's 4 total) while the amount of inbounds can be counted on 2 (9 total).

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Larkmarn Since: Nov, 2010 Relationship Status: Hello, I love you
#4447: Oct 19th 2016 at 7:57:41 AM

I think there's a bit of a trope in there, in the sense of a Skip The Plot Watch The Gags-type thing where people don't care about the plot, they just care about the gags.

But that might be meeting it more than halfway and I'd be down to cut it for its abysmal numbers alone.

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SeptimusHeap from Switzerland (Edited uphill both ways) Relationship Status: Mu
#4448: Oct 19th 2016 at 7:59:37 AM

Seems like something that should have been run through YKTTW when that existed.

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Candi Sorcerer in training from Closer to rimward than hubward Since: Aug, 2012 Relationship Status: They can't hide forever. We've got satellites.
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#4449: Oct 19th 2016 at 8:19:13 PM

I'd say cut the page, make a fresh YKTTW for the idea.

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Morgenthaler Since: Feb, 2016
#4450: Oct 23rd 2016 at 9:30:37 AM

Came across a few more underdevelopped tropes:

edited 23rd Oct '16 9:32:08 AM by Morgenthaler

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