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Prematurely launched pages and pages that weren't fully fleshed out at the point of launching, are a big problem. Since these usually share several problems at once, this thread is aimed at re-running them through the TLP for fixing - the usual fix - or cutting them if they are too bad.

Problems this thread deals with include bad names, not enough/bad examples, unclear description, etc.

For the interested, here's a list of recently created pages. Launches

Note: Please do not request a mod to unlaunch drafts that don't have any issues besides lacking a launch notice/24hr launch notice. While 24hr launch notices are mandatory, there are a few exceptions to the rule. If you see a draft's sponsor launch a TLP without an announcement, it's best to remind them of our TLP Guidelines first. If they continue to repeatedly launch drafts without a launch notice, you can report them on Ask The Tropers or the TLP Community Issues thread.

Edited by MacronNotes on Jun 24th 2023 at 12:24:55 PM

Larkmarn Since: Nov, 2010 Relationship Status: Hello, I love you
#226: Mar 12th 2013 at 8:22:42 AM

YKTTW Unwitting Muggle Friend got launched with zero hats, three examples, an Example As Thesis (... that uses "Joe Blogs" instead of something we actually use, like "Alice and Bob"), and I can't help but feel like this trope already exists somewhere.

Even if it doesn't, it still needs a lot of work and should go back to YKTTW.

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MissKitten Luminescent Blush Since: Jul, 2012
#227: Mar 12th 2013 at 8:32:27 AM

[up]Was just about to mention that. Also The Anti-God was launched with few hats and a "decription needs help" tag. But it seems ok, just wanted to share that just in case.

edited 12th Mar '13 8:33:18 AM by MissKitten

Nocturna Since: May, 2011
#228: Mar 12th 2013 at 9:12:50 AM

[up][up] Agreed. Go ahead and ask Eddie for an unlaunch.

[up] I'm borderline on that one. It's not great, but it's good enough that we probably could leave it to Wiki Magic. (Also, the presence or absence of a "description needs help" tag doesn't actually mean too much on its own—only mods can remove the tags, so old tags referring to fixed problems often linger.)

MarqFJA The Cosmopolitan Fictioneer from Deserts of the Middle East (Before Recorded History) Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
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#229: Mar 12th 2013 at 10:24:42 AM

[up][up] Wait, what? Dammit, I need to keep better watch of my drafts. I made that one, and the last time I looked at it, it was not ready for launch. Please cut and unlaunch.

Fiat iustitia, et pereat mundus.
Larkmarn Since: Nov, 2010 Relationship Status: Hello, I love you
#230: Mar 12th 2013 at 12:08:43 PM

How do we ask for an unlaunch?

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MarqFJA The Cosmopolitan Fictioneer from Deserts of the Middle East (Before Recorded History) Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
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#231: Mar 12th 2013 at 12:20:54 PM

On Ask The Tropers. Only Eddie can do it, for that matter.

<waits to see if there is any arguments against unlaunching>

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Xtifr World's Toughest Milkman Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: Having tea with Cthulhu
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#232: Mar 12th 2013 at 5:01:31 PM

[up]If you started the YKTTW and it was launched by someone else, and you thought it needed more time in YKTTW, I'd say that's an excellent reason to unlaunch. As long as you keep track of the YKTTW and don't allow it to languish...

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Catbert Since: Jan, 2012
#234: Mar 12th 2013 at 6:11:27 PM

[up]Legit trope, but alas this wiki doesn't cover opera and musicals all that thoroughly.

EDIT PS: That already got mentioned a few months back.

There is no reason to cut it, but if you want you can put it in YKTTW for awhile to collect some more examples.

edited 12th Mar '13 6:16:46 PM by Catbert

SeptimusHeap from Switzerland (Edited uphill both ways) Relationship Status: Mu
#235: Mar 13th 2013 at 2:24:25 PM

Murray K Hill. Created just yesterday.

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Nocturna Since: May, 2011
#236: Mar 13th 2013 at 3:25:00 PM

[up] Cut and PM the creator. Wrong namespace, no tropes.

SeptimusHeap from Switzerland (Edited uphill both ways) Relationship Status: Mu
#237: Mar 18th 2013 at 10:23:57 AM

In the name of all Queens and Princesses of the Castle, what did happen to the untyped pages list?

Anyhow, found some problem pages: Easy Money 2010, Wildboyz, Duality OCT, Chicagoland Vampires, Petercraft MP, Man of the City, Card Monsters, Murray K Hill, Triple A Axis And Allies, Media Flanderization, The Recruiting Officer and Waratte Sotomura San.

That should be more than enough for now.

"For a successful technology, reality must take precedence over public relations, for Nature cannot be fooled." - Richard Feynman
Catbert Since: Jan, 2012
#238: Mar 18th 2013 at 10:46:48 AM

And this is why there needs to be mechanism to prevent new pages being created in the Main/ namespace without a YKTTW.

I can only suggest cutlisting them all and sending a PM to those responsible telling them how to do things correctly.

Nocturna Since: May, 2011
#239: Mar 18th 2013 at 10:53:35 AM

Man of the City: clear definition, sufficient examples, had a YKTTW. Just desperately needs indexing and crosswicking.

Petercraft MP: seems like an attempt to use TV Tropes to organize their game. Cut.

Media Flanderization: send to YKTTW. Seems like potentially borderline complaining (and probably Trivia), but I think seeing how suggested examples work out in YKTTW would make it clear whether it would actually be an issue.

The rest: cut and PM. They're all work or creator stubs in the wrong namespace.

SeptimusHeap from Switzerland (Edited uphill both ways) Relationship Status: Mu
#240: Mar 18th 2013 at 11:45:42 AM

I approve of all the suggestions, but I think I've cutlisted enough pages today that it's better not to proceed immediately.

The last batch: ptitle8a6h8j0n, Miss March, Tabs, Revenge Of The Examiner, Wonder Momo, Under Code, The Switch OCT and Melinda And Melinda.

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SeptimusHeap from Switzerland (Edited uphill both ways) Relationship Status: Mu
#241: Mar 19th 2013 at 9:45:29 AM

A new page, Danceswithswords - I am not sure what to do with it. All links are red, by the way.

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Catbert Since: Jan, 2012
#242: Mar 19th 2013 at 11:42:44 AM

That's page is almost incomprehensible.

EDIT PS: I reported that on Ask The Tropers because I think the user might be violating rules about importing offsite drama.

edited 19th Mar '13 11:49:56 AM by Catbert

SeptimusHeap from Switzerland (Edited uphill both ways) Relationship Status: Mu
#243: Mar 20th 2013 at 11:31:07 AM

Humans Are Delicious.

Also, I am off fixing the other pages I brought up.

OK, cutlisted the "cut recommended" pages.

edited 20th Mar '13 12:23:17 PM by SeptimusHeap

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Larkmarn Since: Nov, 2010 Relationship Status: Hello, I love you
#245: Mar 22nd 2013 at 7:48:16 AM

Yeah, cut it.

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SeptimusHeap from Switzerland (Edited uphill both ways) Relationship Status: Mu
#246: Mar 22nd 2013 at 8:34:49 AM

Who's up for cutlisting Humans Are Delicious? I've done so many that I do not really feel like adding another item.

My Kid Could Paint That is also a bad new page.

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Nocturna Since: May, 2011
#247: Mar 22nd 2013 at 8:57:43 AM

[up] Cutlisted Humans Are Delicious. Have you PMed the creator yet? If not, do you have a form PM I could borrow? Robin Song

I agree that My Kid Could Paint That should be cut. Possibly YKTTWed, although I'd be surprised if we didn't already have a trope that covered it.

edited 22nd Mar '13 8:58:29 AM by Nocturna

SeptimusHeap from Switzerland (Edited uphill both ways) Relationship Status: Mu
#248: Mar 22nd 2013 at 9:03:50 AM

I didn't PM the creator partly because I am not sure what to say to them. About YKTTW and Lost And Found and what ought to be in a page for sure, but the rest...

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#249: Mar 22nd 2013 at 11:17:01 AM

Meaningful Look has been created a week ago without a YKTTW and only has two examples. Send it to YKTTW?

Macron's notes
SeptimusHeap from Switzerland (Edited uphill both ways) Relationship Status: Mu
#250: Mar 22nd 2013 at 11:18:27 AM

I would recommend that, or crosswicking.

"For a successful technology, reality must take precedence over public relations, for Nature cannot be fooled." - Richard Feynman

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