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Fixing Creator/ pages to remove personal tropes.:

 1 Oreochan, Mon, 2nd Jul '12 12:46:14 PM from Pennsylvania
Okay, so this thread is is cleaning Actors, Voice Actors, Musicians, and the rest of the Creators articles from Personal Appearance Tropes and other tropes about them as a person. We should only be troping their career as an actor. If the person is a musician, only appearance tropes that are featured in their songs and music videos can be listed. Authors and Artists can only have these tropes if they appear in their works or a common theme in them.

In short, these tropes need to be removed.

Also, after you cleaned a page, add a hidden edit notice to ensure people won't add them back again.

edited 9th Nov '12 5:59:35 PM by Oreochan

"Learning without thinking is labor lost. Thinking without learning is dangerous."
Definitely not a weirdo
W-Z done
Definitely not a weirdo
S-V also done, but it would be nice if someone else looked over Charlie Sheen. I'm not sure what to do with that page. I need a break now.

edited 2nd Jul '12 5:30:40 PM by CompletelyNormalGuy

Ecce Homo Superior
Words cannot describe how happy I am to have carte blance to remove this kind of trope. (I've actually had someone PM me in the past asking me why I removed personal tropes from actor pages.)

A question: what do we do with Romance on the Set? Normally I'd cut anything referring to the actor's love life, but that's a Real Life actor trope par excellence.

EDIT: OK, why is Bettie Page listed as an actor? She was a pin-up model.

edited 3rd Jul '12 1:30:23 AM by DoktorvonEurotrash

(it's David Bowie)
Definitely not a weirdo
P-R done. Maybe I'll come back to this later.
 6 Oreochan, Thu, 5th Jul '12 2:38:41 PM from Pennsylvania
A of Actors is done, will do B and C later. We should probably also look at Musicians as well.
"Learning without thinking is labor lost. Thinking without learning is dangerous."
 7 Dragon Quest Z, Fri, 6th Jul '12 12:47:43 PM from Somewhere in California
The Other Troper
"A question: what do we do with Romance on the Set? Normally I'd cut anything referring to the actor's love life, but that's a Real Life actor trope par excellence."

That's a trivia trope, so it might go on the person's Trivia/ namespace?

Also, are we clearing out trope pages, person pages, or both? I might be able to help, but I want to be sure.
I'm on the internet. My arguments are invalid.
Definitely not a weirdo
I have been leaving Romance on the Set for the most part. If I shouldn't be doing so, then I will go back and fix that.
 9 Dragon Quest Z, Fri, 6th Jul '12 2:04:00 PM from Somewhere in California
The Other Troper
^ Do you mean on the actor's pages?

And if so, what about tropes that they do in publicity photos and red carpet events? I would think some still apply to them, given that they are part of the image they try to present.
I'm on the internet. My arguments are invalid.
 10 Oreochan, Thu, 8th Nov '12 12:13:05 AM from Pennsylvania
I'll fix "C" and "D" of actors tomorrow night.
"Learning without thinking is labor lost. Thinking without learning is dangerous."
Definitely not a weirdo
Right. I had forgotten about this. I'll get back to it tomorrow, starting from O.
Definitely not a weirdo
I took care of O.
 13 wuggles, Fri, 9th Nov '12 3:00:24 PM from Miami, FL Relationship Status: [TOP SECRET]
Also, maybe you could put a hidden note on those pages? I've had to clean up Kristen Stewart and Taylor Swift's pages like twice.

 14 Septimus Heap, Fri, 9th Nov '12 3:02:07 PM from Zurich, Switzerland Relationship Status: Mu
A Wizard boy
We might need an edit notice for this.

 15 Nohbody, Fri, 9th Nov '12 3:02:52 PM from Somewhere in Dixie Relationship Status: Mu
Just zis guy
(Never mind)

edited 9th Nov '12 3:03:16 PM by Nohbody

 16 X Fllo, Wed, 10th Apr '13 10:11:16 PM Relationship Status: Every rose has its thorn
I just clicked on Jared Padalecki. I got there from Real Life sub-page of Adorkable, which is now in TRS.

Well, it mostly deals with his life. I know very little of this man's work, so I'm probably not the right person for the clean-up, but it has to be done.

Anyone wants to be merciless? The page is quite extensive, so I see some fan-girls' hearts crushed.

edited 10th Apr '13 10:12:58 PM by XFllo

 17 Editor Pall Mall, Wed, 10th Apr '13 10:18:14 PM from United States, East Coast
Don't Fear the Spiders
The deed is done. Claiming a real person to be "adorkable" is simply Gushing. Also there is no way a guy like him is a dork.
Keep it breezy!
 18 X Fllo, Wed, 10th Apr '13 11:03:31 PM Relationship Status: Every rose has its thorn
What I meant was that the whole page looks unsuitable for this wiki. Well, at least to me.

I think actors are supposed to have tropes like say Mr. Fanservice if the example states that he has a lots of Shirtless Scenes, particularly if they are gratuitous. Not "the female audience of this show considers him very attractive". What Beautiful Eyes is ok if you make a point that it appears a lot in close-up shots in his films/TV shows, not to gush about a unique colour he happens to have.

I'm not very familiar with our policy on troping actors, but this whole page looks like nothing but extreme gushing.

I think Adorkable for now is allowed to have Real Life examples, but that may change soon.

 19 Macron Notes, Thu, 11th Apr '13 1:14:26 PM from Wilkes Barre Relationship Status: Mu
Formerly known as Oreochan
[up]I got rid of most of the tropes off of Jared Padalecki's page. Only two tropes now remain since they were referring to his roles; not his personal life.

 20 X Fllo, Thu, 11th Apr '13 8:27:18 PM Relationship Status: Every rose has its thorn
[up] That is exactly what I though was needed, but felt uncomfortable doing it myself. Next time I won't be such a "wuss". Perhaps I would allow Tall, Dark and Handsome with context that his roles have this treatment.

I think we gotta start changing the example header on these pages because "This actor/actress provides examples of:" is probably what's tripping people up. How about "Tropes frequently used for this actor/actress' roles"?

 22 Septimus Heap, Wed, 24th Jul '13 7:59:08 AM from Zurich, Switzerland Relationship Status: Mu
A Wizard boy
Yeah, seems like a good change. If it gets implemented, I would add it to Creator Page Guidelines too.

 23 Macron Notes, Sun, 29th Jun '14 11:48:33 PM from Wilkes Barre Relationship Status: Mu
Formerly known as Oreochan
[up][up] I agree with that as well. Maybe the new header could be something like:

"Here is a list of tropes associated with [insert name here]'s career as a [insert creator type here] and their works as a whole."

Also, I'm going to holler for the thread's title to be changed; because this problem is not limited to actors and actresses.

edited 30th Jun '14 7:30:12 PM by MacronNotes

 24 Willbyr, Mon, 30th Jun '14 7:33:09 PM from North Little Rock, AR Relationship Status: Pining for the fjords
Anime-ted
The name change is done.
 25 Macron Notes, Tue, 8th Jul '14 5:06:38 PM from Wilkes Barre Relationship Status: Mu
Formerly known as Oreochan
Thanks, Willbyr!

Anyway, can I get feedback on my trope header suggestion for the Creator pages?

Suggestion:

"Here is a list of tropes associated with [insert name here]'s career as a [insert creator type here] and their works as a whole."

edited 8th Jul '14 5:06:55 PM by MacronNotes

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