Note: If a newly launched trope was already given a No Real Life Examples, Please! or Limited Real Life Examples Only designation while it was being drafted on the Trope Launch Pad, additions to the proper index do not need to go through this thread. Instead, simply ask the mods to add the trope via this thread.
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Common problems include:
- Conversation on the Main Page
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- Impossible in Real Life
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If historical RL examples are not causing any problems, consider whether it would be better to propose a No Recent Examples, Please! (via this forum thread) for RL instead of NRLEP. If RL examples are causing problems only for certain subjects, consider whether a Limited Real Life Examples Only restriction would be preferable to NRLEP.
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Before adding to the crowner:
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- An ATT advert should be made as well (batch items together if more than one trope goes up in a day).
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Notes:
- This thread is not for general discussion regarding policies for Real Life sections or crowners. Please take those conversations to this Wiki Talk thread.
- Do not try to overturn previous No Real Life Examples, Please! or Limited Real Life Examples Only decisions without a convincing argument.
- As mentioned here, the consensus is that NRLEP warnings in trope page descriptions can use bold text so that they stand out.
- The [[noreallife]] tag doesn't currently work. This is a deprecated tag that was introduced many years ago — originally, it would have displayed a NRLEP warning banner when you edited the page. However, there's been some staff conversation (Feb 2024) about what a new technical solution might look like, so we'd advise against deleting these from pages, at least until we have a decision as to whether it'll be fixed or replaced.
Edited by Mrph1 on May 13th 2024 at 9:30:24 AM
Cut the Other folder on Artistic License – Nuclear Physics. The one example contained speculation and didn't really fit the trope anyway.
Artistic License – Chemistry -Other folder: I think at least some of those examples belong under other tropes. Holding off on the Example Indentation issue for now.
Coming back to where you started is not the same as never leaving. -Terry PratchettLDR added.
Pending:
- Horrible Judge of Character: Added 25th Mar '17 at 08:25:38 AM, 4:1 (10)
- Law of Disproportionate Response: Added 26th Mar '17 at 10:53:52 AM 1:1
- Made Out to Be a Jerkass: Added 23rd Mar '17 at 06:50:19 AM, 1:2 (12)
- Rant Inducing Slight: Added 23rd Mar '17 at 07:32:34 PM, 2.25:1 (13)
Unless there's a drastic change, Rant Inducing Slight and Made Out to Be a Jerkass will be called Monday morning, to allow for weekender input even though RIS currently meets all the NRLEP requirements.
edited 26th Mar '17 12:09:44 PM by Nohbody
All your safe space are belong to TrumpDisproportionate Retribution was NRLEP for political flamebait. Are there any redflags that are different between this trope and LDR?
All work and no play makes Jack a dull boy, but all play and no work makes Jack a mere boy... Not that I can see.
...if you don’t love you’re dead, and if you do, they’ll kill you for it.Removed the real life folder from The Farmer and the Viper, since the trope is already NRLEP.
All work and no play makes Jack a dull boy, but all play and no work makes Jack a mere boyCalling to make NRLEP:
- Horrible Judge of Character: Added 25th Mar '17 at 08:25:38 AM, 5.5:1 (13)
- Rant Inducing Slight: Added 23rd Mar '17 at 07:32:34 PM, 2.75:1 (15)
Calling to keep RL examples:
- Made Out to Be a Jerkass: Added 23rd Mar '17 at 06:50:19 AM, 1:1.6 (13)
Pending:
- Law of Disproportionate Response: Added 26th Mar '17 at 10:53:52 AM, 3.5:1 (9)
Moved Granola Girl to its proper alphabetization.
All work and no play makes Jack a dull boy, but all play and no work makes Jack a mere boyAdded Light Is Not Good, since this is the flipside to the NRLEP Dark Is Not Evil.
All work and no play makes Jack a dull boy, but all play and no work makes Jack a mere boyNot seeing a RL folder/subpage. Has there been past abuse?
Be careful what you wish for, 'cause you might just get it all...It may not matter. This trope handles moral orientation, which is something that this wiki is against using in real life sections.
edited 27th Mar '17 1:03:14 PM by MitchellProductions
All work and no play makes Jack a dull boy, but all play and no work makes Jack a mere boyWhy IS The Farmer and the Viper NRLEP?
As for Rant Inducing Slight, I don't know if it deals with peoples' mental state, but we can probably just file that under "too common in real life."
CM Dates; CM Pending; CM DraftsProbably because saying someone is equivalent to the "Viper" is calling them evil.
...if you don’t love you’re dead, and if you do, they’ll kill you for it.Voting Light Is Not Good down for the same reason we didn't add other non-issue and not-already-on-the-list-without-going-on-the-crowner tropes to the crowner. There is no demonstrable problem, so I don't think we should put the effort into maintaining it as NRLEP. Ain't broke. Don't fix.
Look at all that shiny stuff ain't they prettyUnusual Ears only real life example is about a bullet train. Is that a shoehorn?
edited 28th Mar '17 6:09:04 AM by MitchellProductions
All work and no play makes Jack a dull boy, but all play and no work makes Jack a mere boyI'd let that one slide, considering the nickname specifically refers to those "ears". But on the other hand, isn't it unusual for a train to have ears at all?
Check out my fanfiction!Yes it is unusual. The train is a manufactured vehicle instead of an organic being, and the trope is supposed to be about living characters with these dissonant ear properties. That was why I thought of the real life example being a shoehorn.
edited 28th Mar '17 6:40:03 AM by MitchellProductions
All work and no play makes Jack a dull boy, but all play and no work makes Jack a mere boyThat's a shoehorn.
...if you don’t love you’re dead, and if you do, they’ll kill you for it.Removed.
All work and no play makes Jack a dull boy, but all play and no work makes Jack a mere boyAdded I'm a Man; I Can't Help It.
All work and no play makes Jack a dull boy, but all play and no work makes Jack a mere boyGive us a reason, please, in the thread, so it can be discussed.
Personally, I think you're right, but follow the protocol, please
edited 28th Mar '17 9:45:49 AM by Madrugada
...if you don’t love you’re dead, and if you do, they’ll kill you for it.It is a sex trope as well as harassment and pervert, which are a category that requires purging of real life examples.
edited 28th Mar '17 10:25:07 AM by MitchellProductions
All work and no play makes Jack a dull boy, but all play and no work makes Jack a mere boyI'd say "I'm a Man" also has issues with stereotyping RL men as nothing more than slaves to their hormones, as well.
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Anyway, pending:
- Law of Disproportionate Response: Added 26th Mar '17 at 10:53:52 AM, 2.33:1 (11)
- I'm a Man; I Can't Help It: Added 28th Mar '17 at 09:21:51 AM, 1:1 (2)
- Light Is Not Good: Added 27th Mar '17 at 10:21:20 AM, 1.2:1 (11)
Law of Disproportionate Response technically clears the minimums for NRLEP but it's not yet stable so I'm holding off on calling for now.
All your safe space are belong to TrumpWhat's the difference between Law of Disproportionate Response and Rant Inducing Slight?
CM Dates; CM Pending; CM DraftsThey both relate to Berserk Button or any of the Fee Fi Faux Pas tropes, but I am still not sure about the differences.
edited 28th Mar '17 3:42:43 PM by MitchellProductions
All work and no play makes Jack a dull boy, but all play and no work makes Jack a mere boy
Objections to the Rule Of Cautious Editing Judgement.
All work and no play makes Jack a dull boy, but all play and no work makes Jack a mere boy